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pas-ha | morning ironic :) | 06:43 |
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noam_ | Hi, someone here can provide suggested config for ironic and ironic-inspector with dell servers? | 07:09 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ironic-python-agent master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/502657 | 07:19 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ironic master: Adds more exception handling for ironic-conductor heartbeat https://review.openstack.org/475210 | 07:53 |
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makowals | Good Morning Ironic | 07:59 |
makowals | Quick general question, how does the support matrix in respect to nova look like? | 07:59 |
makowals | Any limitations on Ironic version when running nova newton? | 07:59 |
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vsaienk0 | morning Ironicers! | 08:09 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ironic master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/504641 | 08:23 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ironic-ui stable/ocata: Imported Translations from Zanata https://review.openstack.org/504395 | 08:39 |
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openstackgerrit | yolanda.robla proposed openstack/bifrost master: Ping to a working version of bindep https://review.openstack.org/505128 | 09:16 |
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openstackgerrit | Milan Kováčik proposed openstack/ironic-inspector master: Fcntl.flock writing https://review.openstack.org/504438 | 09:26 |
openstackgerrit | Milan Kováčik proposed openstack/ironic-inspector master: TEST check dnsmasq PXE filter in devstack https://review.openstack.org/468712 | 09:26 |
openstackgerrit | yolanda.robla proposed openstack/bifrost master: Install the latest version of setuptools https://review.openstack.org/505146 | 10:11 |
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sambetts | Morning all | 10:14 |
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luizanao | ++ | 10:22 |
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openstackgerrit | Madhuri Kumari proposed openstack/ironic-specs master: Add service management API for ironic https://review.openstack.org/471217 | 10:34 |
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openstackgerrit | Pavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed openstack/ironic master: Migrate from testrepository to stestr https://review.openstack.org/505165 | 10:46 |
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dtantsur | morning ironic | 10:58 |
vsaienk0 | morning dtantsur, sambetts | 10:59 |
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openstackgerrit | Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic-specs master: Proposal for Queens cycle priorities https://review.openstack.org/505173 | 11:20 |
dtantsur | wow, gerrit allows to add a group as reviewers, sweet! | 11:23 |
* dtantsur wonders why jroll is added though :D | 11:23 | |
dtantsur | ah, because of ironic-release | 11:24 |
openstackgerrit | Wang KaiFeng proposed openstack/ironic-specs master: Support node abandon https://review.openstack.org/497156 | 11:27 |
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openstackgerrit | Mateusz Kowalski proposed openstack/ironic-python-agent stable/ocata: BMC can be configured using different lan channel https://review.openstack.org/492455 | 11:29 |
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dtantsur | makowals: sorry for the late answer. nova newton requires ironic newton and should work with ironic ocata too | 11:41 |
makowals | It works correctly with ironic ocata, I was just wondering if nova-newton and ocata-pike won't make too big difference and break the cloud ;) | 11:42 |
makowals | s/ocata-pike/ironic-pike | 11:42 |
makowals | (in terms of known incompatibilities etc.) | 11:42 |
dtantsur | makowals: this particular combination *should* work, but we don't test it (nor recommend) | 11:43 |
dtantsur | vdrok: when do we switch Nova to new VIF attach API? | 11:44 |
sambetts | dtantsur: nova 15.0.0 | 11:45 |
dtantsur | mmmmmm | 11:45 |
sambetts | was the first release with it calling that API | 11:45 |
dtantsur | what is the series? | 11:46 |
sambetts | dtantsur: 15.0.0 was Ocata | 11:46 |
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dtantsur | aha, so this is a potential problem | 11:46 |
sambetts | ? | 11:47 |
dtantsur | sambetts: makowals wonders about nova newton + ironic pike | 11:47 |
dtantsur | so I wonder if we rely enough on the new API for this combination to be problematic | 11:47 |
sambetts | dtantsur: the real question is when the code in Ironic that handled vif_port_id in extra was removed | 11:48 |
sambetts | dtantsur: because we deprecated it for a while | 11:48 |
* dtantsur is not sure | 11:48 | |
dtantsur | we still seem to have it | 11:48 |
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sambetts | yeah so it should work still | 11:50 |
sambetts | #untested | 11:50 |
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sambetts | it will only behave like it used to do too, e.g. it won't support things like active node vif attach etc | 11:52 |
openstackgerrit | yolanda.robla proposed openstack/bifrost master: Bump ansible version to latest stable https://review.openstack.org/505191 | 11:53 |
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openstackgerrit | Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic-python-agent master: Clean up deprecated items in the inspection code https://review.openstack.org/505194 | 12:05 |
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openstackgerrit | Wang KaiFeng proposed openstack/ironic-specs master: Agent provisioning with HTTP server https://review.openstack.org/504039 | 12:12 |
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TheJulia | Good morning | 12:22 |
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dtantsur | morning TheJulia | 12:24 |
TheJulia | wow, gerrit looks different | 12:24 |
dtantsur | true | 12:24 |
vsaienk0 | sambetts: do you have a minute to check https://review.openstack.org/#/c/496249/ ? | 12:24 |
patchbot | patch 496249 - ironic - Set vnic_type when attach VIF for a node | 12:24 |
dtantsur | I haven't spotted functional difference still | 12:25 |
vsaienk0 | sambetts: so your suggestion is to update update_mac to do the following (1 - unbind port, 2 - update mac, 3 bind port) right? | 12:25 |
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sambetts | vsaienk0: yup, instead of what we do today which is, 1) unbind port, 2) update mac and bind port | 12:26 |
vsaienk0 | sambetts: but we still need to change vnic_type somhere as contrail will update mac only for baremetal port | 12:26 |
vsaienk0 | there is the code https://github.com/Juniper/contrail-controller/blob/e754a997d7d75ba205e17610ff566b649fc1d0bc/src/config/vnc_openstack/vnc_openstack/neutron_plugin_db.py#L2128 | 12:27 |
sambetts | vsaienk0: you said that it does it for *either* an unbound port or baremetal vnic type | 12:27 |
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vsaienk0 | sambetts: my bad, I updated bug description | 12:28 |
vsaienk0 | contrail will update mac only when both are true | 12:28 |
sambetts | vsaienk0: doesn't this change it too allowed_port = True if host_id is null https://github.com/Juniper/contrail-controller/blob/e754a997d7d75ba205e17610ff566b649fc1d0bc/src/config/vnc_openstack/vnc_openstack/neutron_plugin_db.py#L2136 | 12:30 |
sambetts | vsaienk0: because neutron should allow changing a mac address on a VM port as long as its unbound | 12:30 |
vsaienk0 | yes you are right will rework patch than | 12:32 |
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TheJulia | dtantsur: one behavior difference, it likes to jump up when using the web-ui when I click save | 12:51 |
dtantsur | oh, it likes jumping | 12:51 |
dtantsur | TheJulia: FYI proposing pike stable releases now | 12:51 |
TheJulia | dtantsur: thanks! | 12:52 |
TheJulia | dtantsur: it did previously as well, but now it seems like every time. I may finally surrender to gertty | 12:52 |
dtantsur | welcome to the dark side :) | 12:52 |
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* sambetts is really hoping they move to 2.14 soon... polygerrit the new UI added in that version is 10000x better than the current one | 12:54 | |
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dtantsur | TheJulia: a stable review needed please https://review.openstack.org/#/c/502024/ | 12:55 |
patchbot | patch 502024 - ironic-inspector (stable/pike) - Do not rely on the older ipmi_address field on lookup | 12:55 |
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TheJulia | dtantsur: one moment, just wrapping up comments on a review | 12:59 |
dtantsur | cool | 12:59 |
dtantsur | I'm also proposing ocata releases, we seem to have some stuff there | 13:00 |
TheJulia | dtantsur: +2+A'ed the stable patch | 13:02 |
dtantsur | thanks! | 13:03 |
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dtantsur | hehe | 13:04 |
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* dtantsur hopes it's not his patch :D | 13:12 | |
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fellypefca | Good morning everyone :) | 13:13 |
dtantsur | TheJulia: okay, releases proposed, except for inspector (waiting for that patch to land). won't be processed until gerrit is fixed ofc.. | 13:15 |
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rloo | dtantsur: if you have a few minutes, let's decide on value for discover_hosts_in_cells_interval (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/502080/) | 13:17 |
patchbot | patch 502080 - ironic - Document setting discover_hosts_in_cells_interval ... | 13:17 |
rloo | hello and good morning everyone, dtantsur, fellypefca, TheJulia! | 13:17 |
dtantsur | rloo: just a few minutes, but yes | 13:17 |
dtantsur | morning rloo | 13:17 |
dtantsur | I don't have a strong opinion. sticking to 2 minutes again sounds good to me | 13:18 |
fellypefca | hi rloo :) | 13:18 |
dtantsur | then people can adjust it, if they care about faster enrollment vs less load | 13:18 |
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rloo | dtantsur: ++ | 13:19 |
TheJulia | good morning rloo | 13:20 |
TheJulia | dtantsur: just saw the topic :( I guess we can expect a lot of such things the next few months | 13:21 |
dtantsur | yeah | 13:21 |
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openstackgerrit | Fellype Cavalcante proposed openstack/ironic master: Documentation for 'oneview' hardware type https://review.openstack.org/502072 | 13:21 |
openstackgerrit | Pavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed openstack/ironic master: Migrate to stestr as unit tests runner https://review.openstack.org/505165 | 13:26 |
openstackgerrit | Pavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed openstack/ironic master: Cleanup test-requirements https://review.openstack.org/505239 | 13:26 |
dtantsur | pas-ha: hi! how close are we to removing glance v1 support? | 13:26 |
pas-ha | dtantsur: immediately? :) I do not think anything is blocking us from it | 13:27 |
dtantsur | sweeeet :) I just don't remember when exactly we deprecated it, otherwise I'd kill it with fire | 13:27 |
dtantsur | I think it's going to be removed soon(ish) | 13:27 |
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openstackgerrit | Vasyl Saienko proposed openstack/ironic master: Rework update_mac_address logic https://review.openstack.org/496249 | 14:06 |
openstackgerrit | Vasyl Saienko proposed openstack/ironic master: Drop neutron masking exception in vif_attach https://review.openstack.org/504874 | 14:06 |
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openstackgerrit | yolanda.robla proposed openstack/bifrost master: Set language to en_US to fix latest bindep problems https://review.openstack.org/505128 | 14:24 |
TheJulia | dtantsur|lunch: might be worth applying fire and removing for a 9.2 release :) BTW, deprecated 7 months ago, default changed 8 months ago. | 14:27 |
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TheJulia | yolanda: w/r/t ^^^ I posted two minor questions to the review. The need makes me :( | 15:04 |
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yolanda | TheJulia, i didn't create but i'll do. I guess that for infra, it's storyboard | 15:06 |
TheJulia | Anyway to look it up to check back later would be awesome | 15:06 |
yolanda | LANG=c seems to work as well | 15:06 |
TheJulia | lets set it to that because that should be supportable if en_US is not installed | 15:07 |
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openstackgerrit | Julia Kreger proposed openstack/bifrost master: Update and replace http with https for doc links https://review.openstack.org/504365 | 15:09 |
openstackgerrit | yolanda.robla proposed openstack/bifrost master: Set language to en_US to fix latest bindep problems https://review.openstack.org/505128 | 15:12 |
TheJulia | yolanda: commit title ;) | 15:12 |
yolanda | agh | 15:14 |
openstackgerrit | yolanda.robla proposed openstack/bifrost master: Set language to c to fix latest bindep problems https://review.openstack.org/505128 | 15:14 |
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TheJulia | :) | 15:18 |
TheJulia | NobodyCam: if your around, ^^^ | 15:20 |
NobodyCam | *yawn* Good morning Ironic'ers | 15:20 |
NobodyCam | Good morning TheJulia :) | 15:20 |
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NobodyCam | no bug #? | 15:21 |
TheJulia | it is not in launchpad | 15:21 |
NobodyCam | looks good to me.. Will wait for test then kick it.. | 15:23 |
NobodyCam | it's only releases we need be concerned with as far as gerrit? | 15:24 |
TheJulia | yeah | 15:25 |
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openstackgerrit | Pavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed openstack/ironic master: Cleanup test-requirements https://review.openstack.org/505239 | 15:32 |
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prometheanfire | is there a way to get a list of ipmi (or open-ipmi) commands that are issued from ironic so we can test if our systems that we want to run ironic on are fully compliant? | 15:36 |
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TheJulia | That is an interesting idea. I don't think we've written it down, and there are some helper methods that would conceal it. It boils down to power on/power off, setting the boot device to net, setting it to disk | 15:40 |
prometheanfire | that's kinda what I was thinking | 15:40 |
NobodyCam | TheJulia: 505128 coming in for landing now! | 15:43 |
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TheJulia | prometheanfire: there is persistency with boot as well, but we support it either way | 15:46 |
prometheanfire | persistency? as in checking power status? | 15:46 |
NobodyCam | as in set boot device I would expect | 15:48 |
prometheanfire | ah | 15:49 |
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vdrok | dtantsur|lunch: /me is on vacation this week, but iirc we already have Nova driver calling vif attach | 15:53 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/bifrost master: Update and replace http with https for doc links https://review.openstack.org/504365 | 15:53 |
* TheJulia is fairly sure that is the case | 15:53 | |
prometheanfire | TheJulia: I think we might just be able to use sudo logging to log the calls to ipmitool on a node in a lab we have, it won't be perfect, but may be good enough. | 15:54 |
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TheJulia | prometheanfire: perfect is a myth :) | 15:54 |
prometheanfire | perfect is the enemy of good | 15:55 |
TheJulia | prometheanfire: but please publish results if you can, it would be interesting to actually have that as a reference | 15:55 |
prometheanfire | sure, I'll see if I can | 15:55 |
tonyb | Is there a process I need to follow if I want to add a node.capability and then use that in ironic? | 15:55 |
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tonyb | prometheanfire: o/ | 15:56 |
TheJulia | prometheanfire: but is it not that evil is also good? | 15:56 |
prometheanfire | TheJulia: perspective | 15:56 |
TheJulia | touché | 15:57 |
TheJulia | tonyb: capabities is a free form field, the question would be more around how your using it, or wanting to use it | 15:57 |
openstackgerrit | yolanda.robla proposed openstack/bifrost master: Different pip install with/without venv https://review.openstack.org/505315 | 15:57 |
tonyb | TheJulia: I have a PXE implementation that doesn't need a bootfile as the firmware is smartenough to grok the the pxe configfile itself | 15:58 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/bifrost master: Set language to c to fix latest bindep problems https://review.openstack.org/505128 | 15:59 |
tonyb | TheJulia: so I was thinking I'd modify dhcp_options_for_instance to only omit adding the bootfile if the node had pxe_needs_bootfile=false | 15:59 |
tonyb | TheJulia: Happy to take better ideas | 15:59 |
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dtantsur | morning tonyb, NobodyCam | 16:00 |
dtantsur | and prometheanfire | 16:01 |
tonyb | dtantsur: howdy | 16:01 |
prometheanfire | moin | 16:01 |
dtantsur | prometheanfire: re list of commands: I'd love to see it, I get this question often enough, when things go south | 16:01 |
dtantsur | tonyb: what you're talking about is not a capability, rather a new driver_info field | 16:02 |
TheJulia | tonyb: I would propose it as an RFE so we can wrap our heads around it. It kind of makes me think about ipxe cases where an entire step can get skipped as a result | 16:02 |
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TheJulia | but yeah, in this case, it is more driver_info | 16:03 |
prometheanfire | dtantsur: ya, register, boot, clean, maintence, unregister | 16:03 |
prometheanfire | those are the commands I'll run to generate my list | 16:03 |
prometheanfire | any others you think would be useful? | 16:03 |
tonyb | dtantsur: okay. That's actually what I meant I just used the wrong term because mistakes happen | 16:04 |
dtantsur | prometheanfire: I good start, I assume. the list will differ based on boot mode (uefi vs bios) and boot option (local vs net boot) | 16:04 |
tonyb | so the RFE would be a spec? beluprint? | 16:04 |
TheJulia | tonyb: RFE is a tagged bug in launchpad | 16:04 |
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tonyb | Okay I can do that after lunch | 16:04 |
TheJulia | tonyb: we don't use blueprints, and specs may be required once we have an RFE if we determine that there needs to be more thought or a better explination of the problem/needs or after a certain impact such as changing the API or adding new interface methods. | 16:05 |
NobodyCam | Good Morning dtantsur :) | 16:05 |
prometheanfire | dtantsur: ya, for us I'm not sure if uefi or bios (probably bios though) but it should be net boot (if that means how it gets the final image, aka tftp/pxe for the deployment image, then deployment image pulls down final image and switches back to local boot) | 16:06 |
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prometheanfire | dtantsur: this is also only being tested on newton, not sure if uefi booting is supported there | 16:10 |
dtantsur | prometheanfire: boot option refers to the final image booting, the deployment image is always netbooted | 16:11 |
dtantsur | I think uefi is in newton, yes | 16:11 |
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prometheanfire | ah, in that case I think we only care about local booting, but I'll confirm | 16:12 |
dtantsur | local booting covers more cases, so it's more interesting indeed | 16:12 |
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openstackgerrit | Fellype Cavalcante proposed openstack/ironic master: Documentation for 'oneview' hardware type https://review.openstack.org/502072 | 16:26 |
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dtantsur | sigh, so gerrit notification emails do not go out, right? thanks rloo for review, I've just noticed it | 16:31 |
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rloo | dtantsur: ouch. i got email from you about reviewing it. when you added me as a reviewer I guess. guess there is no email going out when jenkins is finished :-( | 16:32 |
dtantsur | rloo: more importantly, no emails on reviews :( | 16:33 |
dtantsur | I just happened to open it and see a -1 | 16:33 |
rloo | explains why there hasn't been much email. | 16:33 |
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dtantsur | yep :( anyway, I'll hold it a bit until I get more reviews, then bulk-update | 16:33 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ironic-ui master: Cleanup ironic-ui portgroup REST interface https://review.openstack.org/499636 | 16:43 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ironic-ui master: Cleanup ironic-ui REST API https://review.openstack.org/500181 | 16:43 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ironic-ui master: Enhanced form-field radio functionality https://review.openstack.org/489215 | 16:44 |
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openstackgerrit | Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic master: Document setting discover_hosts_in_cells_interval in nova.conf https://review.openstack.org/502080 | 16:53 |
dtantsur | rloo: ^^^ | 16:53 |
rloo | dtantsur: thx | 16:53 |
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jlvillal | Don't go sambetts|afk ! | 17:14 |
jlvillal | sambetts|afk: Have a great evening | 17:15 |
jlvillal | If people didn't know: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/gerrit-2.13-issues | 17:15 |
jlvillal | Emails are pretty slow from Gerrit at the moment. | 17:15 |
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dtantsur | morning jlvillal | 17:50 |
jlvillal | Hi dtantsur :) | 17:51 |
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rloo | dtantsur: were you planning on cleaning up ironic-specs? move completed specs to 9.0? or 9.1? if not, i can do it. | 18:01 |
dtantsur | rloo: please do, if you have a minute | 18:01 |
rloo | dtantsur: more like 10 min, but sure. i'm procrastinating, was going to review ansible driver spec :D | 18:02 |
dtantsur | hehe | 18:02 |
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rloo | TheJulia: can I assume that the bfv work described in the spec is done? http://docs-draft.openstack.org/46/241946/13/check/gate-ironic-specs-docs-ubuntu-xenial/d5ed3f9//doc/build/html/specs/not-implemented/boot-from-volume-reference-drivers.html | 18:07 |
rloo | TheJulia: the bug/RFE indicates that it is done, so I'll assume so unless you say otherwise :) | 18:08 |
TheJulia | ugh, only partially since the spec proposes multiple scenarios. I have on my todo list to propose a spec update to clarify implementation status. | 18:10 |
rloo | TheJulia: oh. hmm, well, i can move the spec to 9.1 dir, before you update. the actual file is still in approved/ dir. | 18:11 |
TheJulia | That works, because it is just the scenarios that remain, the rest of the mechanics/interfaces/stuff is all done. | 18:12 |
rloo | jlvillal: not sure if you know, is there still work to be done wrt dynamic port group support? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1652630. | 18:14 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1652630 in Ironic "[RFE] Dynamic port group support" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Vasyl Saienko (vsaienko) | 18:14 |
jlvillal | rloo: I think it landed. That is what I remember. | 18:16 |
rloo | jlvillal: yeah, i think so too, but the bug hasn't been closed. there is one part of the bug that isn't done, but the spec said it was out of scope. i'll check with vasyl. | 18:17 |
jlvillal | rloo: I think it is: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/446763/ | 18:18 |
patchbot | patch 446763 - ironic - Start passing portgroup information to Neutron (MERGED) | 18:18 |
jlvillal | rloo: Though it only says, "Partial-Bug" | 18:18 |
jlvillal | Probably need to ask vsaienk0 to make sure. | 18:18 |
rloo | jlvillal: do you know if tempest tests were updated to test that? and yeah, i'll check with vsaienk0 | 18:19 |
jlvillal | rloo: I don't know :( | 18:19 |
rloo | jlvillal: no worries. | 18:19 |
rloo | jlvillal: another question, wrt physical network awareness. those ironic-tempest-plugin patches, what's the story with them? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1666009 | 18:22 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1666009 in Ironic "[RFE] Physical network awareness" [Wishlist,In progress] - Assigned to Mark Goddard (mgoddard) | 18:22 |
TheJulia | tempest testing would be back-end dependent I guess, which is not great. There may be work required in networking-generic-switch, because I didn't see it processing on any of that data, but that six months ago | 18:22 |
TheJulia | was six | 18:22 |
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rloo | TheJulia: sigh. do we consider a feature done, if we aren't testing it? | 18:23 |
TheJulia | tempest is api contract testing, not functional testing... | 18:23 |
TheJulia | it has a nice functional side-effect though | 18:23 |
TheJulia | rloo: imho, it would depend on the feature, and the scope | 18:24 |
rloo | TheJulia: I'm tempted to say it is done... | 18:24 |
TheJulia | If it is just passing the information like I remember, than I too would consider it done if we have verified it does send the info to neutron | 18:24 |
rloo | TheJulia: i'm just going to assume that we did :) | 18:25 |
TheJulia | :) | 18:25 |
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openstackgerrit | Fellype Cavalcante proposed openstack/ironic master: Documentation for 'oneview' hardware type https://review.openstack.org/502072 | 18:36 |
dtantsur | mmm, nearly 9pm in this part of the world, I guess I should get used to it.. | 18:39 |
dtantsur | see you tomorrow | 18:39 |
openstackgerrit | Ruby Loo proposed openstack/ironic-specs master: Move completed specs to pike/9.1 https://review.openstack.org/505365 | 18:40 |
rloo | bye dtantsur | 18:40 |
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openstackgerrit | Ruby Loo proposed openstack/ironic master: api-ref portgroup_id should be portgroup_ident https://review.openstack.org/505409 | 21:21 |
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catintheroof | guys, hi! can anyone help me verify if ironic supports cinder integration to attach an extra volume to a bare metal server ? | 22:55 |
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NobodyCam | catintheroof: like after the image is deployed? | 23:09 |
catintheroof | NobodyCam: exactly, the OS disks is deployed locally on the machine | 23:09 |
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NobodyCam | you'd need to bake something into the image to do the attachment.. we're hands off after deploy | 23:10 |
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catintheroof | NobodyCam: sure, but, even if i call something into the image (either linux or windows) do i need to call cinder directly from the image ? and if so ... that directly means that the OS needs to have support with the cinder backend storage right ? | 23:12 |
catintheroof | NobodyCam: i mean, what do i need to bake ? | 23:13 |
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NobodyCam | well seems I may have miss a few things: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1526231 | 23:18 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1526231 in Ironic "[RFE] Add volume connection information into ironic db" [Wishlist,Fix released] - Assigned to Dmitry Tantsur (divius) | 23:18 |
NobodyCam | TheJulia: have you played with ^^^^^ at all? | 23:19 |
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TheJulia | catintheroof: The scenario supported is booting. OOB HBA attachment (such as via the ironic irmc driver for fujitsu hardware) could make another volume appear to the OS if the node is power cycled, as long as we get the information. I don't remember off-hand if we re-poll cinder for all possible attachments (which is silly, because I wrote the initial code for cinder interaction). | 23:27 |
TheJulia | catintheroof: the alternate option from with-in the deployed OS is to use http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/python-brick-cinderclient-ext/ which will query cinder and attach volumes locally via iscsi | 23:29 |
TheJulia | catintheroof: I guess the true question is, what is your backend storage fabric | 23:30 |
catintheroof | TheJulia: that what i was thinking, because if i use ceph, even using a Linux deployed OS, that would'nt work | 23:31 |
TheJulia | catintheroof: doesn't ceph now have an iscsi -> rbd gateway? | 23:31 |
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catintheroof | TheJulia: but that means that i need to enable a cinder backend with the rbd gateway to attach a volume of that TYPE ? to make sure that the cinder client on the deployed OS will know how to do it ? | 23:32 |
TheJulia | So, kind of. The actual act of attachment ships a json document over to cinder with details about the local machine or the machine to be connected. That information is passed to the driver, which then returns information that the client uses to connect. That information is returned to the caller that initiated the attachment. Whatever is connecting needs to understand how to connect to whatever is returned | 23:35 |
TheJulia | by the backend cinder driver | 23:35 |
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TheJulia | in the iscsi ipxe boot case, we utilize the returned information to sanboot. Ironic also stores the information if cinder is offline, and we attempt to detach and re-attach with our latest information on the node since hardware can change. | 23:37 |
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TheJulia | \o/ | 23:41 |
catintheroof | TheJulia: so i guess this http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/python-brick-cinderclient-ext/ is needed on windows machines also to be able to attach them with an extra volume right ? | 23:41 |
catintheroof | TheJulia: i need to be able to attach to either Linux or Windows volumes, via iscsi sounds good, but i need to know from you guys if this is something logical to think about | 23:42 |
TheJulia | catintheroof: I'm not really sure there is a windows analog or if it will work on windows. I mean, the API can be called and the software iscsi initiator that ships with windows could be configured with the information returned... | 23:43 |
TheJulia | catintheroof: This is kind of entering the territory of why OOB storage fabrics are useful... :( | 23:44 |
TheJulia | catintheroof: But also attaching after initial deployment? | 23:45 |
TheJulia | via ?nova? | 23:45 |
catintheroof | TheJulia: exactly, maybe not, i presume ironic might be used without nova, but still want to add a volume to the machine after has beed deployed right ? | 23:46 |
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TheJulia | for what it is worth, it is extremely logical, it is just that there are a few more constraints when there is no in-os agent or hypervisor doing things for the OS | 23:46 |
TheJulia | catintheroof: Absolutely can be used without nova, just requires a little more data and settings :) | 23:47 |
TheJulia | well, Ironic that is | 23:47 |
catintheroof | TheJulia: adding some more background, my use case is a service provider | 23:47 |
catintheroof | TheJulia: i already have a cloud, and want to attach ironic to nova, that's one thing | 23:47 |
catintheroof | TheJulia: i might use pxe to deploy the OS, and the OS will be ALWAYS on the local machine, through a ... i dont know ... a 32GB satadom | 23:48 |
catintheroof | TheJulia: but after that ... i want my customers, to attach an extra volume, wether the OS is linux, or windows | 23:48 |
catintheroof | TheJulia: i can see that ... i dont have a "transparent" solution or a "best practice" solution on this one right ? | 23:49 |
TheJulia | For ironic, if the HBA can be informed out of band, we can power the node off and back on. We store volume connection information for iscsi/fc and ship that to cinder, so if the fabric is completely outside of the IP network, then things should just magically work although we don't have the conditional in our deploy code in ironic to make that happen, but you can power cycle the machine via ironic and it | 23:50 |
TheJulia | should reboot with the volume information pushed to cinder and as long as iscsi hba is pointed at cinder for discovery (at least I think, this is a gray area, but in this case there may also be a back-end SAN), or the HBA is configured in FC case to boot to offered lun 0 (or whatever is default for that hba), things should... kind of just work, although not explicitly tested. If someone wants to offer some | 23:50 |
TheJulia | of us some time in a very well stocked lab.... | 23:50 |
TheJulia | catintheroof: transparent for baremetal, not yet sadly :( And even then, it would only best work when out of band with hardware HBAs. :( | 23:51 |
TheJulia | An equivelent agent for windows to take care of cinder attachments could be a thing. The downside is that windows instance needs to have enough information to be able to ask cinder what it should be attached to. | 23:52 |
catintheroof | TheJulia: oh ... sadly has never been more accurate than now :'( | 23:53 |
TheJulia | storage + compute management + running on baremetal != easy :( | 23:54 |
catintheroof | TheJulia: or = "DIYS" | 23:55 |
* TheJulia does not grok | 23:56 | |
* TheJulia guesses "DIY" == "Do It Yourself", but is still confused | 23:58 | |
catintheroof | TheJulia: you got it, something as "simple" if you may, as deploying a Linux or Windows machine, has even today nothing "simple" when attaching an extra volume | 23:59 |
catintheroof | TheJulia: you might need 90% to end up puting extra code or developing yourself ( /me ) to make that happen on either both OSes | 23:59 |
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