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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ironic-specs master: Move completed specs to pike 9.0 & 9.1 https://review.openstack.org/505365 | 04:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Vasyl Saienko proposed openstack/ironic master: [devstack] Switch ironic to uWSGI https://review.openstack.org/507067 | 06:38 |
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| pas-ha | morning ironic :) | 07:28 |
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| sambetts | Morning all | 09:27 |
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| pas-ha | morning sambetts | 10:06 |
| sambetts | hey pas-ha | 10:10 |
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| syqian | Hi,everyone. is anyone know whether the ironic support to inject the root password for the baremetal server? | 10:50 |
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| aparnav | hey vdrok, Can you take look at this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/422572/? | 11:11 |
| patchbot | patch 422572 - ironic - Support SUM based firmware update as clean step fo... | 11:11 |
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| sambetts | syqian: it is possble via the config drive and cloud-init https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux_OpenStack_Platform/4/html/End_User_Guide/config-drive.html | 11:13 |
| syqian | sambetts, ok, i will search it, thank you | 11:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed openstack/ironic-inspector master: WiP add policy enforcement engine https://review.openstack.org/507826 | 11:31 |
| fellypefca | Good morning everyone :) | 11:32 |
| fellypefca | rajinir hey, i will discuss with my team about the time slot of 3rd Party CI and answer you ASAP. But I Think that 16:00 UTC it's ok for us | 11:33 |
| pas-ha | I kind of suspect 16UTC might not fit IRMC/Fujitsu team (AFAIU most of them are based in Japan) | 11:35 |
| fellypefca | pas-ha Oh! yeah, you're right. 16:00UTC it's midnight in Japan I guess :/ | 11:39 |
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| dtantsur | morning ironic | 12:16 |
| fellypefca | Good morning dtantsur :) | 12:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Jesse Pretorius (odyssey4me) proposed openstack/ironic master: Add default configuration files to data_files https://review.openstack.org/506198 | 12:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed openstack/ironic-inspector master: WiP add policy enforcement engine https://review.openstack.org/507826 | 12:27 |
| openstackgerrit | vinay kumar muddu proposed openstack/ironic master: Update proliantutils version for master to "2.4.1" https://review.openstack.org/505506 | 12:30 |
| fellypefca | dtantsur can you take a look? I need you +2 back :) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/502072/ | 12:31 |
| patchbot | patch 502072 - ironic - Documentation for 'oneview' hardware type | 12:31 |
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| TheJulia | Good morning | 12:44 |
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| fellypefca | Good morning TheJulia and thak you :) | 12:47 |
| fellypefca | thank* ops | 12:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ironic master: Documentation for 'oneview' hardware type https://review.openstack.org/502072 | 12:53 |
| TheJulia | fellypefca: I took care of you :) | 12:53 |
| fellypefca | TheJulia :D <3 | 12:54 |
| dtantsur | sorry, was being coffeinated :) | 12:54 |
| TheJulia | hehe | 12:55 |
| TheJulia | I'm getting an early start | 12:55 |
| TheJulia | and caffeinated at the same time | 12:55 |
| dtantsur | we had a farewell party yesterday. I woke up at 12:30pm :D | 12:55 |
| TheJulia | ouch :) | 12:56 |
| fellypefca | dtantsur Is it your farewell? | 12:56 |
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| fellypefca | I heard you're moving to Germany | 12:57 |
| dtantsur | fellypefca: yep :) | 12:57 |
| dtantsur | so I was saying bye to local folks | 12:57 |
| fellypefca | dtantsur nice! Oktoberfest o/ | 12:58 |
| dtantsur | got people some free beers, etc :) | 12:58 |
| TheJulia | dtantsur: before I dig into it, the current state of the refarch docs, is that representative of what we discussed at the ptg? | 12:59 |
| dtantsur | TheJulia: I only have the introduction patch up, and it should be up-to-date | 12:59 |
| dtantsur | the only thing, maybe we want to shrink it a bit, and move some bits to related install guide sections | 13:00 |
| dtantsur | I'll leave it up for reviewers to tell me ;) | 13:00 |
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| TheJulia | dtantsur: okay, I'm just hoping we get use cases landed soon-ish so I can go point to it in our documentation ;) | 13:01 |
| TheJulia | good morning rloo | 13:01 |
| dtantsur | yeah, just lemme relocate first :) | 13:01 |
| jaianshu | Hello everyone, TheJulia | 13:01 |
| TheJulia | Good morning | 13:01 |
| jaianshu | i have a query w.r.t https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/1716329 | 13:01 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1716329 in Ironic "[RFE] HPE ilo OOB RAID configuration" [Wishlist,New] - Assigned to Anshul Jain (theanshuljain) | 13:01 |
| rloo | helloooooo and good morning TheJulia, dtantsur, jaianshu | 13:01 |
| TheJulia | jaianshu: sure! | 13:01 |
| jaianshu | actullay here i'm not implementing a new interface | 13:02 |
| dtantsur | morning rloo, jaianshu | 13:02 |
| jaianshu | i'm planning to use existing RAIDInterface of base class | 13:02 |
| jaianshu | and writing a new olo raid interface | 13:03 |
| jaianshu | will it require spec? | 13:03 |
| dtantsur | usually no, but there one interesting caveat | 13:03 |
| dtantsur | * there is | 13:03 |
| jaianshu | *ilo raid interface | 13:03 |
| TheJulia | jaianshu: Yes, but if your going to create a new class that will be used as an interface to for raid calls... That begins to enter that territory | 13:03 |
| dtantsur | if your RAID interface only targets a subset of hardware that the iLO hardware type targets, you may need a new hardware type.. | 13:04 |
| jaianshu | yes..it will be a new hardware type.. | 13:04 |
| dtantsur | with this in mind, a spec probably won't hurt.. | 13:05 |
| dtantsur | TheJulia: wdyt ^^ | 13:05 |
| TheJulia | jaianshu: questions like this are why I indicated a spec, since the spec works you through a number of questions we would normally ask/look for during reviewing code. Asking them up front helps in the long run | 13:05 |
| jaianshu | something like : class IloRAID(base.RAIDInterface): | 13:06 |
| dtantsur | jaianshu: yes, but also a new hardware type (aka driver). class iLOGen5Hardware(iLOHardware) (or something) | 13:06 |
| dtantsur | s/5/10/ but you got the idea | 13:06 |
| jaianshu | yes | 13:06 |
| dtantsur | because the ilo hardware type also supports gen8 and 9 | 13:07 |
| jaianshu | sure dtantsur | 13:08 |
| jaianshu | thanks TheJulia, dtantsur..will do that | 13:08 |
| TheJulia | jaianshu: thanks! | 13:08 |
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| dtantsur | thanks! | 13:11 |
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| TheJulia | Okay, I'm going to switch laptops and try and get this spec done | 13:34 |
| dtantsur | which one? | 13:34 |
| TheJulia | cleanhold which actually should only be like ~40 lines of code and state transitions | 13:35 |
| TheJulia | oh, and tests | 13:35 |
| dtantsur | sweet! | 13:35 |
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| sambetts | nice! | 13:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ironic-specs master: Proposal for Queens cycle priorities https://review.openstack.org/505173 | 13:42 |
| rloo | btw TheJulia, did you get around to talking to Interop about deprecation of ironic CLI? Wanted to know if we are good to go ahead with it. | 13:42 |
| openstackgerrit | Ilya Etingof proposed openstack/ironic-python-agent master: Report /dev/disk/by-path on inspection followup https://review.openstack.org/507858 | 13:42 |
| TheJulia | I ended up double checking the opinion of hogepodge who was leading the discussions at the PTG and he is all for it since it improves consistency. | 13:43 |
| TheJulia | rloo: tl;dr deprecate it! ;) | 13:43 |
| dtantsur | \o/ | 13:44 |
| dtantsur | also \o/ at merged priorities | 13:44 |
| TheJulia | woot | 13:44 |
| rloo | TheJulia: awesome, thx! | 13:44 |
| rloo | dtantsur: i know you want to do a python-ironicclient release soon. was thinking the deprecation could be part of it, but not sure. when were you thinking of doing the release? | 13:45 |
| dtantsur | rloo: after we get vdrok's patch in | 13:45 |
| rloo | dtantsur: i believe you wanted vdrok's none auth patch (on my list to do today) | 13:45 |
| dtantsur | which does give us some time | 13:45 |
| rloo | dtantsur: oh. so i shouldn't review vdrok's patch today then, i should work on deprecation? :) | 13:46 |
| dtantsur | rloo: both, ideally ;) | 13:46 |
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| dtantsur | I won't be able to request a release until next Monday | 13:46 |
| rloo | dtantsur: heh, ok, will see how far i get. | 13:46 |
| rloo | dtantsur: ah, ok, then i have some time :) | 13:47 |
| dtantsur | yep | 13:47 |
| hogepodge | TheJulia: +1 | 13:48 |
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| dtantsur | great, thanks hogepodge | 13:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ilya Etingof proposed openstack/ironic-python-agent master: Report /dev/disk/by-path on inspection followup https://review.openstack.org/507858 | 14:29 |
| dtantsur | everyone, the priorities on the whiteboard were updated to match what we agreed on | 14:29 |
| dtantsur | please provide your status updates | 14:29 |
| dtantsur | I tried to capture what is happening now to my best knowledge | 14:29 |
| sambetts | awesome :D | 14:29 |
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| rloo | dtantsur: our documentation is still using classic drivers. I thought we had switched them to hardware types :( eg: https://docs.openstack.org/ironic/latest/install/enrollment.html | 14:43 |
| dtantsur | this is another step we need to take | 14:43 |
| rloo | dtantsur: you want me to open a bug against it, or is it on your list of things to do? | 14:44 |
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| dtantsur | rloo: just added to the etherpad. I personally don't need a bug, I treat it as part of the deprecation work. | 14:44 |
| rloo | dtantsur: ok, as long as you are tracking it/you are doing it :) | 14:44 |
| dtantsur | :) | 14:45 |
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| dtantsur | going a bit earlier today, see you on Monday (hopefully, heh) | 15:29 |
| dtantsur | while I'm out, please ping TheJulia about all the things PTL | 15:29 |
| dtantsur | if I'm suddenly out next week, please assume I'm doing some paperwork, and ping TheJulia again :) | 15:29 |
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| jlvillal | Is the sourceforege issue resolved? I still see it in the whiteboard. | 15:30 |
| jlvillal | The one that was affecting IPA and ironic-lib | 15:30 |
| TheJulia | jlvillal: I've not looked yet today, I've been heads down on this spec which I might be posting in a few minutes, doing one final read | 15:31 |
| jlvillal | TheJulia, No worries and thanks :) | 15:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Ruby Loo proposed openstack/python-ironicclient master: Update README https://review.openstack.org/507898 | 15:32 |
| rloo | bye dtantsur, good luck with the move! | 15:32 |
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| jlvillal | I'm marking the gate as good. I see jobs are passing now for ironic-lib | 15:34 |
| jlvillal | dtantsur, ditto! Have a safe move :) | 15:34 |
| dtantsur | o/ | 15:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Julia Kreger proposed openstack/ironic-specs master: Add cleanhold specification https://review.openstack.org/507910 | 15:59 |
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| TheJulia | apparently sourceforge is having connectivity issues today :( | 16:03 |
| rloo | TheJulia: still? ugh. ^^ jlvillal | 16:05 |
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| NobodyCam | Good Morning Ironic'ers | 16:05 |
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| jlvillal | rloo: Oh :( And I just updated the whiteboard an hour or so ago | 16:27 |
| rloo | jlvillal: undo! :) | 16:27 |
| jlvillal | rloo: Okay | 16:27 |
| nicodemos | good morning. | 16:32 |
| TheJulia | rloo: jlvillal: yup, still https://twitter.com/sfnet_ops | 16:32 |
| TheJulia | there was a span where all was good though :) | 16:32 |
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| TheJulia | rloo: if you can take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/507910/1/specs/approved/cleanhold-state.rst and let me know if it basically matches what we discussed regarding clean steps at the ptg, I'll go ahead and begin writing the code this afternoon while it is fresh in my head | 17:11 |
| patchbot | patch 507910 - ironic-specs - Add cleanhold specification | 17:11 |
| rloo | TheJulia: hmm, ok, eating messy lunch. soon... | 17:12 |
| TheJulia | well, enjoy the lunch first! | 17:13 |
| TheJulia | I'm on pacific time right now | 17:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ilya Etingof proposed openstack/ironic-specs master: IPA to report node activity https://review.openstack.org/492702 | 17:22 |
| jlvillal | TheJulia: Welcome to our wonderful time zone :D | 17:27 |
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| rloo | TheJulia: i looked at the spec, when you have time, let's discuss. fwiw, i reviewed the ptg notes (https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ironic-queens-ptg-contentious-topics) and GET API spec (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/501511) | 17:38 |
| patchbot | patch 501511 - ironic-specs - spec: Clean Steps that are Available | 17:38 |
| rloo | TheJulia: i am unclear as to how your spec & the get-clean-steps spec work together | 17:38 |
| rloo | TheJulia: at ptg, did folks mention it might be useful to have a 'hold' state so that the node has the ramdisk loaded but doing nothing? (outside of the need for this API to get the clean steps) | 17:39 |
| rloo | TheJulia: was also wondering, what about a 'clean-hold' clean step, and not have a 'clean-hold' state (it'd be 'clean-wait'). or maybe we'd still want a clean-hold state, just thinking maybe for flex, folks might want a clean-hold step to put between/after a particular clean step. | 17:40 |
| fellypefca | Devstack is too slow :/ | 17:40 |
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| sambetts | night all | 17:52 |
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| fellypefca | Good night sambetts|afk :) | 17:52 |
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| TheJulia | rloo: sorry, I've been on the phone | 18:04 |
| rloo | TheJulia: no worries | 18:04 |
| openstackgerrit | John L. Villalovos proposed openstack/ironic master: Reduce complexity of node_power_action() function https://review.openstack.org/507668 | 18:05 |
| openstackgerrit | John L. Villalovos proposed openstack/ironic master: ipmitool: reboot: Don't power off node if already off https://review.openstack.org/507297 | 18:05 |
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| rloo | TheJulia: I just added my comments to the spec so I don't forget... | 18:06 |
| rloo | TheJulia: so was there a desire from folks to be able to have a 'hold' so they could poke around? | 18:07 |
| TheJulia | sorry, phone still | 18:07 |
| rloo | TheJulia: oh. heh. let me know when you're avail then :) | 18:07 |
| TheJulia | rloo: Okay, finally free | 18:09 |
| TheJulia | rloo: so, tl;dr it was the solution to not touching the state machine from the get of the step information | 18:09 |
| TheJulia | rloo: it was also reached in more groupmind consensus really quickly during that whole discussion and we quickly moved on | 18:09 |
| rloo | TheJulia: but adding a 'hold' *is* touching the state machine? | 18:09 |
| TheJulia | absolutely | 18:10 |
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| TheJulia | problem is we shouldn't have multiple ways of triggering state machine changes | 18:10 |
| TheJulia | nor can we build something outside that doesn't reflect the current state but that is doing things | 18:10 |
| TheJulia | so this kind of decouples the get, makes the get become just what is cached, the user can go to cleanhold, get up to date cleansteps, then trigger manual cleaning with what they want from there | 18:10 |
| rloo | TheJulia: first question. is this 'hold' useful outside of the get-cleaning-steps API? i thought people thought it'd be useful | 18:10 |
| TheJulia | rloo: hold concept is useful in terms of a long running ramdisk | 18:11 |
| rloo | TheJulia: ok, so i think it is worth mentioning that in the spec, because that becomes a usecase/requirement | 18:11 |
| TheJulia | I guess in theory, we could have a general hold state, but that could also be onfusing | 18:12 |
| TheJulia | confusing | 18:12 |
| TheJulia | rloo: I thought I had... hmm | 18:12 |
| rloo | TheJulia: and might someone want a 'hold' to happen after a particular clean step was done? | 18:12 |
| TheJulia | I wouldn't think a machine would go back to cleanhold, although we could do that with the state machine as long as the step had the ability to go back, but I suspect joining too much on to what is functionally just state machine changes will scope creep and increase complexity | 18:13 |
| rloo | TheJulia: i'm not sure what you mean there. I can envision the 'hold' as a separate clean-step. | 18:14 |
| TheJulia | So a separate user definable clean-step that can kick the node back to a cleanhold state? | 18:14 |
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| noam_ | Hi | 18:14 |
| TheJulia | which then a user could retrigger cleaning or exit? | 18:14 |
| rloo | TheJulia: right. what is a cleanhold state anyway. it just means that there is a ramdisk there. | 18:15 |
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| noam_ | Someone can elborate the difference between netboot and local? | 18:15 |
| rloo | TheJulia: which i think would mean, that the user would have to 'continue' | 18:15 |
| TheJulia | rloo: basically yeah. Running ramdisk, collected cleansteps. | 18:15 |
| rloo | TheJulia: user would have to explicitly say 'continue' | 18:15 |
| TheJulia | ugh | 18:16 |
| rloo | TheJulia: and then the conductor would go on to the next step if any | 18:16 |
| TheJulia | I guess a clean continue verb | 18:16 |
| rloo | TheJulia: yes, something like that. i haven't thought out the details. just the concept. | 18:17 |
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| TheJulia | if there is driver internal info stating it can continue, then I guess itcould continue the next cleaning step upon the next heartbeat | 18:17 |
| TheJulia | Yeah, it could just be an alias to kick it to CLEANWAIT | 18:17 |
| TheJulia | and it could error api side if it is an invalid request | 18:17 |
| rloo | TheJulia: heh, i haven't thought about implementation, i'm sure we can implement ;) | 18:18 |
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| rloo | TheJulia: ok, so if you're good with that, it addresses two of my earlier questions. | 18:20 |
| rloo | TheJulia: now, how does this fit with the get-clean-steps API. | 18:20 |
| TheJulia | rloo: I would prefer that we don't scope creep new mechanics, at least if I'm writing it since I need to get back to some other things to unblock myself | 18:20 |
| rloo | TheJulia: I think we still want a GET .../cleaning/steps API, and it returns the cached steps | 18:20 |
| TheJulia | rloo: and then nothing else is required... | 18:20 |
| rloo | TheJulia: i don't call it 'scope creep new mechanics'. i call it 'support for the feature' | 18:20 |
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| rloo | TheJulia: otherwise, the coding might be done in a way that won't allow it to be flexible later | 18:21 |
| TheJulia | ahh, but independent small features can add up and build on each other | 18:21 |
| rloo | TheJulia: so the user can do a GET ../cleaning/steps. How does the user do a 'fetch' to get the steps? | 18:21 |
| rloo | TheJulia: I had proposed a POST ../cleaning/steps to do that, so that there is a symmetry between the get & fetch. | 18:22 |
| rloo | TheJulia: i can't recall if we had decided at the PTG that we didn't or we did like that symmetry | 18:22 |
| rloo | TheJulia: wrt 'independent small features can add up...', yes. but hard to do if you don't architect it right. | 18:22 |
| rloo | TheJulia: there's a diff conceptually between putting the node in a hold state, vs it being a clean step. | 18:23 |
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| rloo | TheJulia: let me give you an example. automated vs manual cleaning. all that would have been easier to code if we had planned for both initially. | 18:23 |
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| TheJulia | phone again | 18:24 |
| TheJulia | okay | 18:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Fellype Cavalcante proposed openstack/ironic stable/ocata: Fix multitenancy scenario on OneView Driver https://review.openstack.org/507632 | 18:25 |
| TheJulia | rloo: the user would fetch steps by requesting the cleanhold state. Having a post means a second method of triggering state machine changes, and there should ideally be only one. | 18:26 |
| TheJulia | rloo: agree, hence why I asked you to take a look :) | 18:26 |
| rloo | TheJulia: ok, so we decided that it was ok not to have that symmetry. | 18:26 |
| rloo | TheJulia: my concern with this hold thing, is that we're expecting the user to issue two commands (and wait in between) | 18:27 |
| rloo | TheJulia: in order to get the clean steps | 18:27 |
| rloo | TheJulia: 1. put node in hold state | 18:27 |
| rloo | 2. wait til node is in hold state | 18:27 |
| TheJulia | we did, I remembered the consensus seemed to be that we wanted to maintain existing path for causing things to happen since it would need to be represented back to the user | 18:27 |
| rloo | 3. do something to get the node out of hold state | 18:27 |
| TheJulia | Well | 18:27 |
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| TheJulia | Essentially having the post is the same | 18:27 |
| TheJulia | because you can't let that hang for five minutes or so for IPA to boot and heartbeat in | 18:28 |
| rloo | TheJulia: i *think* the hold was because folks said, if i know i want to do cleaning, but i want to know the clean steps first, i don't want to have to boot the ramdisk twice. | 18:28 |
| rloo | TheJulia: does that ring a bell with you? (i wish i had taken more notes at ptg...) | 18:29 |
| TheJulia | rloo: That was the side effect, that we functionally begin moving towards long running ramdisks and not having multiple boot cycles for things like, refreshing data in the db. | 18:29 |
| rloo | TheJulia: no, the post is different. there is no 'hold' that requires user intervention to get out of | 18:29 |
| TheJulia | rloo: so your post would return what to the user? | 18:30 |
| rloo | TheJulia: nothing | 18:30 |
| rloo | TheJulia: it is async | 18:30 |
| rloo | TheJulia: just like most of the requests to put the node in a provision state | 18:30 |
| rloo | TheJulia: just like the 'hold' would be. what were you planning on returning for that request? | 18:30 |
| TheJulia | so a user would then have to continue to check the state to see if the machine has booted, aside from getting a last updated field | 18:31 |
| rloo | TheJulia: yup, if they are waiting to get the available clean steps | 18:31 |
| TheJulia | rloo: nothing, but it was going to be via the provision state interface and state machine | 18:31 |
| rloo | TheJulia: just like a user has to wait for a node to get deployed to | 18:31 |
| TheJulia | exactly, so there is no real difference aside from one follows an existing pattern which was the preference in the room during the discussion | 18:32 |
| rloo | TheJulia: I honestly don't recall that this was the preference | 18:32 |
| rloo | TheJulia: my concern is that for someone that only wants the clean steps, it looks like your proposal is asking them to do the 3 steps i mentioned above. | 18:33 |
| rloo | TheJulia: which may be fine. i have not been given any requirements from any user, as to how they want this to work | 18:33 |
| TheJulia | trigger clean hold, wait until it hits the cleanhold state, the steps would b e updated at that point and the user would be able to know that they should have refreshed cleanstep information from the get /cleaning/steps endpoint | 18:34 |
| rloo | TheJulia: and then, the user has to issue another request to get it out of hold, right? | 18:34 |
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| TheJulia | Yes, that is true, they can issue a manual clean or exit the state. They also may wish to leave the node in that powered on state waiting for days or even potentially (and now i feel bad for the earth) weeks | 18:35 |
| rloo | TheJulia: so i think there is value to having the 'hold'. I'm just not sure that it effectively addresses the issue of getting the clean steps (from the user's point of view, although I don't know of any users) | 18:36 |
| rloo | s/get/fetch/ | 18:36 |
| rloo | caching i guess | 18:36 |
| TheJulia | Everyone that I know that has asked for a way to get them, wants to turn around and run manual cleaning | 18:36 |
| rloo | i'm not questioning the need for the GET ../clean/steps or the proposed hold thing. | 18:37 |
| TheJulia | i know | 18:37 |
| rloo | TheJulia: i'm just questioning the fetching/caching of clean steps part | 18:37 |
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| rloo | TheJulia: from the perspective of caching the clean steps, i-the-user might like to issue one command only and come back after coffee to see the clean steps. not have to issue a 'continue' command (or forget to issue that command) | 18:38 |
| TheJulia | rloo: but if we also hook in collection along the way with normal processes such as automated cleaning so that we always have cached clean steps.... | 18:39 |
| TheJulia | Things won't change that often, if an operator changes out the ramdisk with more hardware managers, they will then need a way to refresh that information | 18:40 |
| rloo | TheJulia: huh? we already do this. I mean, we already cache the clean steps, when we start cleaning | 18:40 |
| TheJulia | we do, then we nuke it upon completion I thought | 18:41 |
| rloo | TheJulia: so i honestly don't recall, i thought someone said that we didn't. but that is ... who cares. we can keep it after that or not, it isn't a big deal. | 18:41 |
| TheJulia | I only think we nuke it now because I found and fixed a bug in manual cleaning where we were not cleaning stuff up and getting stuck in a loop | 18:42 |
| rloo | TheJulia: ok | 18:42 |
| TheJulia | if we timed out, we didn't execute the same cleanup steps to that are normally performed upon exit so re-issuing manual clean wouldn't work | 18:43 |
| TheJulia | wow, that was a while ago | 18:43 |
| rloo | TheJulia: so I'm a bit lost. I'm not sure what that has to do with what we are discussing wrt the hold & the fetching/caching of clean steps | 18:44 |
| TheJulia | I'm just providing background context as to why I think we don't cache them right now unless something has changed, so we would need to always keep them cached. | 18:45 |
| TheJulia | err, I think we dont | 18:45 |
| TheJulia | if that makes sense | 18:45 |
| rloo | TheJulia: yes, for the GET ../cleaning/steps to work, we need to always cache them | 18:45 |
| rloo | TheJulia: all i remember, is that when we start cleaning, we get the clean steps from ipa. easy enough to check what happens when cleaning finishes | 18:46 |
| rloo | TheJulia: anyway, I think I've given you my feedback about the hold'em state. i can recap in the patch. | 18:48 |
| TheJulia | rloo: Agreed, as long as we're careful around logic like on this line https://github.com/openstack/ironic/blob/master/ironic/drivers/modules/agent_base_vendor.py#L313 :) | 18:49 |
| TheJulia | That you have, thanks! | 18:49 |
| rloo | TheJulia: yup wrt the code! | 18:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | John L. Villalovos proposed openstack/ironic-python-agent master: Build tinyipa with python3 https://review.openstack.org/495385 | 21:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | John L. Villalovos proposed openstack/ironic-python-agent master: Build tinyipa with python3 https://review.openstack.org/495385 | 21:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ironic stable/pike: Adds more exception handling for ironic-conductor heartbeat https://review.openstack.org/507373 | 22:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ironic master: Cleanup unit tests for ipmittool https://review.openstack.org/506413 | 22:56 |
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| jlvillal | TheJulia: sourceforge says they are now back up as of 5 minutes ago. I could download ipmitool tarball | 23:33 |
| openstackgerrit | John L. Villalovos proposed openstack/ironic master: Reduce complexity of node_power_action() function https://review.openstack.org/507668 | 23:34 |
| openstackgerrit | John L. Villalovos proposed openstack/ironic master: ipmitool: reboot: Don't power off node if already off https://review.openstack.org/507297 | 23:34 |
| TheJulia | \o/ | 23:34 |
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| anupn | jlvillal, nice, even i was waiting to see when sourceforge gets up | 23:36 |
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| jlvillal | anupn: I noticed some jobs worked on your Python 3 IPA patch. | 23:45 |
| jlvillal | anupn: Never mind. Those are the coreos jobs. | 23:47 |
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