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openstackgerritfupingxie proposed openstack/ironic master: stop console when unnecessary  https://review.openstack.org/54687700:54
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openstackgerritfupingxie proposed openstack/ironic master: Add more parameter explanation when create a node  https://review.openstack.org/53194101:03
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openstackgerritfupingxie proposed openstack/ironic master: Add more parameter explanation when create a node  https://review.openstack.org/53194101:29
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openstackgerritfupingxie proposed openstack/ironic master: Add more parameter explanation when create a node  https://review.openstack.org/53194101:44
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openstackgerritfupingxie proposed openstack/ironic master: Add more parameter explanation when create a node  https://review.openstack.org/53194102:33
openstackgerritRuby Loo proposed openstack/ironic-specs master: Ironic deployment steps  https://review.openstack.org/41252302:38
openstackgerritMerged openstack/ironic master: [ansible] use manual-mgmt hw type in unit tests  https://review.openstack.org/54616502:39
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openstackgerritDao Cong Tien proposed openstack/ironic master: devstack: add support for rescue mode  https://review.openstack.org/52411807:44
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openstackgerritDao Cong Tien proposed openstack/ironic master: Update CI jobs for rescue mode  https://review.openstack.org/52870408:52
openstackgerritDao Cong Tien proposed openstack/ironic master: Update "standalone" job for supporting rescue mode  https://review.openstack.org/53782108:54
openstackgerritDao Cong Tien proposed openstack/ironic-tempest-plugin master: Rescue mode standalone tests  https://review.openstack.org/53811908:56
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openstackgerritMadhuri Kumari proposed openstack/ironic-specs master: VNC Graphical console  https://review.openstack.org/30607409:26
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openstackgerritMadhuri Kumari proposed openstack/ironic master: [DNM][WIP] Implement GraphicalConsole Interface  https://review.openstack.org/54735610:16
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mgoddard_morning ironic11:11
mgoddard_anyone know about hardware types?11:11
pas-hamgoddard_: what exactly?11:13
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mgoddard_pas-ha: If I set a default for an interface (e.g. default_power_interface), does that default have to be supported by every enabled hardware type?11:14
mgoddard_In my example, I have ipmi and fake-hardware as hw types, and fake as the default management interface11:15
mgoddard_I get  IncompatibleInterface: management interface implementation '<ironic.drivers.modules.fake.FakeManagement object at 0x11f1edd0>' is not supported by hardware type IPMIHardware.11:15
mgoddard_This is with pike, code from a month or few ago11:16
mgoddard_code agrees yes, that is what should happen, but is that intended?11:16
mgoddard_From the docs: "These options should be used with care. If a hardware type does not support the provided default implementation, its users will have to always provide an explicit value for this interface when creating a node."11:18
mgoddard_That would be fine, but this prevents conductor startup11:18
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pas-hanot actually sure TBH.. shouldn't each hw type has it's own idea of what's its default interface (like the first one returned by supported_*_interfaces..)11:29
pas-hahave you tried not setting it and see if you get proper interfaces set when creating a node with given hw type but w/o supplying interfaces explicitly11:30
pas-haI might be wrong, but it seems one of usages for this setting (default_*_interface) was to choose the interface when migrating from old drivers to hw types11:31
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dtantsurmorning ironic11:40
dtantsurjroll, just checked my undercloud, and min_disk is 0 there :( I guess we'll have to teach people to use it11:42
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dtantsurpas-ha: hey, have we already had a conversation on making [ansible]playbooks_dir accept remote locations?11:44
pas-hanot yet, but we can... what kind of remotes? like a github and cloning it?11:45
pas-haI personally would probably like to avoid it and have your cfg mgmt system to update the local copy for you when needed/requested..11:46
pas-hacloning/downloading from remote would have to have quite a number of options to configure to be usable in a general case that have nothing to do in ironic itself. besides, generally one have no guarantee that this remote location is accessible from inside the cloud at all.11:50
pas-haone possible way to change that would be using Glare artifacts... but that's too far-fetched for now IMO11:51
mgoddard_pas-ha: I tried unsetting the conflicting default_ options and this allowed conductor to start11:51
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pas-hamgoddard_: and what about creating a node with hw type and no explict interfaces? does it work / picks up at least some meaningful interface?11:53
dtantsurpas-ha: rather accepting http/https/swift locations11:53
dtantsurand glare eventually, yes11:53
pas-hadtantsur: like a zipped blob?11:53
dtantsuryep11:53
dtantsurI don't like two things in what we have: 1. an assumption that an API user has write access to the local file system, 2. bad compatibility with containers11:54
mgoddard_pas-ha: yes that worked. I can create a node with ipmi hw type and get the right interfaces11:54
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dtantsurpas-ha: accepting a git url sounds awesome as well, but I'm not sure we're quite ready for that :)11:59
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dtantsurpas-ha: formal proposal: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/175125512:16
openstackLaunchpad bug 1751255 in Ironic "[RFE] Allow remove (http/https/swift) locations for the ansible deploy playbooks" [Wishlist,Confirmed]12:16
pas-haremote? ^ :)12:16
dtantsurpas-ha: yep, already fixed :)12:17
* dtantsur has well known problems with similar words12:17
dtantsuron the high level, I've met (yet another) people today that want a "damn simple installer". most of people now use a PXE provisioner that just does everything from within a ramdisk.12:18
dtantsurI'm looking into what can make ironic work well in this scenario. the ansible deploy interface is a part of my vision12:18
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openstackgerritwangqi proposed openstack/networking-baremetal master: fix a typo  https://review.openstack.org/54741212:35
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pas-hawe can surely discuss it in a couple of days :)12:43
pas-haI like the idea overall, just probably would like to have some restrictions in place12:43
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dtantsurtotally12:47
dtantsurpas-ha: which restrictions do you have in mind?12:48
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openstackgerritJohn L. Villalovos proposed openstack/ironic master: Fix issue with double mocking of utils.execute functions  https://review.openstack.org/52432113:53
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jrollmorning everyone14:26
jrollmgoddard_: preventing conductor startup looks intentional to me, from the spec:14:26
jrollCreate a family of configuration options enabled_<INTERFACE>_interfaces with a list of enabled implementations of each hardware interface that are available for use in the ironic deployment.14:27
jrollThe default value, if provided by the default_<INTERFACE>_interface, must be in this list, otherwise a conductor will fail to start.14:27
jrollhttp://specs.openstack.org/openstack/ironic-specs/specs/7.0/driver-composition-reform.html14:27
jrollfeels like we need to document that better and/or change it so it isn't quite so confusing14:28
dtantsurmorning jroll14:30
jrolldtantsur: not sure if it's what pas-ha has in mind, but node.driver_info[ansible_playbooks_location] is essentially allowing remote code execution, tis worrysome :)14:30
dtantsuryeah, it's not ideal14:30
dtantsurmaybe we should only allow it in the config..14:31
jrollyeah, I think we would need to14:32
jrolldoes the ansible driver still have concurrency problems?14:33
dtantsurI guess so14:34
dtantsurIf you mean that it runs one ansible process per node14:34
jrollwhen it was first proposed, it was limited to one ansible process per conductor at a time14:35
jrollI think that's been fixed, but not sure14:35
jrolland I've heard 'it has concurrency issues' more recently, but no more details than that14:35
dtantsurI think we can have several processes, we just don't aggregate nodes into one14:39
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openstackgerritDmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic stable/queens: Stop using --os-baremetal-api-version in devstack by default  https://review.openstack.org/54747214:58
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pas-hajroll: it can start many ansible-playbook commands, one per-node.15:15
jrollpas-ha: ok, then I guess I'm curious what the concurrency problems mentioned are15:16
jrollI don't remember who it was that said ti though15:16
pas-haprobably that it could be more efficient. there were also times when each ansible-playbook command invocation consumed ~20% of a one cpu core (fixed already, or at least can be tuned via config)15:18
pas-hait is not an async driver tho, that's true15:18
jrollah, I see15:18
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jrollI guess it probably can't replace large-scale use of things like cobbler15:19
pas-haBTW on async - I tried running unit tests via py3.6 and got multiple warnings that 'async' word is going to be a reserved word in py3.7 , and we have quite a number of those :)15:19
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jrollooo.15:20
jrollthat'll be fun15:20
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pas-hather's 'def async' somewhere in oslo.db :)15:20
jrollheh15:21
jroll$ ag '\Wasync\W' ironic/ | wc -l -> 11015:21
jrollnot all as a variable, but still quite a few15:22
pas-hathe biggest trouble is when it is a part of 'public' API - like in ironic, the vendor method decorator15:22
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jrolloof15:22
pas-hathere's a 'async' kwarg15:22
jrollyeah, we should prioritize that for rocky so we can drop it in S15:22
jroll3.7.0 final: 2018-06-1515:23
pas-hashould I file a bug for that? a big FAT crossproject one? :)15:23
jrollyes please! :)15:23
pas-hawell, that means that at least Bionic (ubuntu 18.04 LTS) would stick with 3.615:24
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jrollyep, so should be fairly safe to drop these things in S15:24
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mgoddard_jroll: thanks for digging that out of the spec. Seems reasonable although a little counter-intuitive15:33
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pas-hajroll: filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/175130615:38
openstackLaunchpad bug 1751306 in Ironic "do not use 'async' keyword in code" [Undecided,New]15:38
jrollnice, thank you pas-ha :)15:39
NobodyCamGood Morning Ironic'ers, and .. ofc ...15:41
NobodyCamHappy Friday!15:42
jroll\o/15:42
jrollmorning NobodyCam15:42
NobodyCam:) Good Morning jroll :)15:42
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dtantsurmorning NobodyCam16:31
NobodyCam:) all ready for the weekend dtantsur ?16:32
dtantsuryep :)16:32
NobodyCamw00t!16:32
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openstackgerritPavlo Shchelokovskyy proposed openstack/ironic master: [devstack] block iPXE boot from HTTPS TempURLs  https://review.openstack.org/54750316:33
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pas-ha^ a fix for a feature I once wrote16:33
* pas-ha -> home, hope to see some of you in a couple of days - Dublin awaits :)16:35
NobodyCamhave a great weekend pas-ha16:35
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dtantsur|afkhave a great weekend, see (some of) you in Dublin!17:59
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openstackgerritOpenStack Release Bot proposed openstack/bifrost stable/newton: Update .gitreview for stable/newton  https://review.openstack.org/54753618:03
openstackgerritOpenStack Release Bot proposed openstack/bifrost stable/newton: Update UPPER_CONSTRAINTS_FILE for stable/newton  https://review.openstack.org/54753718:03
openstackgerritOpenStack Release Bot proposed openstack/bifrost master: Update reno for stable/newton  https://review.openstack.org/54753818:03
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openstackgerritOpenStack Release Bot proposed openstack/ironic-inspector stable/newton: Update .gitreview for stable/newton  https://review.openstack.org/54757718:15
openstackgerritOpenStack Release Bot proposed openstack/ironic-inspector stable/newton: Update UPPER_CONSTRAINTS_FILE for stable/newton  https://review.openstack.org/54757818:15
openstackgerritOpenStack Release Bot proposed openstack/ironic-inspector master: Update reno for stable/newton  https://review.openstack.org/54757918:15
openstackgerritOpenStack Release Bot proposed openstack/ironic-lib stable/newton: Update .gitreview for stable/newton  https://review.openstack.org/54758018:16
openstackgerritOpenStack Release Bot proposed openstack/ironic-lib stable/newton: Update UPPER_CONSTRAINTS_FILE for stable/newton  https://review.openstack.org/54758118:16
openstackgerritOpenStack Release Bot proposed openstack/ironic-python-agent stable/newton: Update .gitreview for stable/newton  https://review.openstack.org/54758218:16
openstackgerritOpenStack Release Bot proposed openstack/ironic-python-agent stable/newton: Update UPPER_CONSTRAINTS_FILE for stable/newton  https://review.openstack.org/54758318:16
openstackgerritOpenStack Release Bot proposed openstack/ironic-python-agent master: Update reno for stable/newton  https://review.openstack.org/54758418:16
openstackgerritOpenStack Release Bot proposed openstack/ironic-ui stable/newton: Update .gitreview for stable/newton  https://review.openstack.org/54758618:16
openstackgerritOpenStack Release Bot proposed openstack/ironic-ui master: Update reno for stable/newton  https://review.openstack.org/54758718:17
openstackgerritOpenStack Release Bot proposed openstack/ironic stable/newton: Update .gitreview for stable/newton  https://review.openstack.org/54758818:18
openstackgerritOpenStack Release Bot proposed openstack/ironic stable/newton: Update UPPER_CONSTRAINTS_FILE for stable/newton  https://review.openstack.org/54758918:18
openstackgerritOpenStack Release Bot proposed openstack/ironic master: Update reno for stable/newton  https://review.openstack.org/54759018:19
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openstackgerritMark Goddard proposed openstack/ironic master: Register traits on nodes in devstack  https://review.openstack.org/54537018:59
openstackgerritMark Goddard proposed openstack/ironic master: Validate instance_info.traits against node traits  https://review.openstack.org/54346118:59
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JayFfungi: ^ help22:21
NobodyCamoh joy spam22:21
fungithey joined, spammed and parted the channel again in under a minute22:22
NobodyCamnice :(22:22
fungiit'll continue until one of the freenode netops k-lines that user (and then they'll just connect with another and start over again)22:22
JayFwhat a waste of life :( someone spending their time bothering irc folks22:23
JayFI hope their molecules end up in a black hole some day. Squished to nothingness.22:23
fungii hope i get to say hi to some of you in dublin in a few days22:23
JayFNot me :( I'm not openstacking these days, but I do miss the conferences moreso than anything else22:23
NobodyCamlooks like there from Palestine22:24
NobodyCam185.132.249.153Palestine, Gaza22:24
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NobodyCamhave a good flight fungi22:26
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NobodyCamJayF: I'll be here to keep you company22:26
fungiNobodyCam: thanks!22:26
NobodyCam:)22:26
JayFI'm always here. Just vary how much I lurk.22:26
NobodyCam:)22:27
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fungiand yeah, dmsimard mentioned in #openstack-infra that freenode is already on the case. seems like it's hitting a bunch of channels i'm in but with a different nick each time so obviously the spammers are working harder at evading blocks22:27
NobodyCamyep!22:27
NobodyCamwonder how long it will take for irc to come up with bayesian filters22:28
NobodyCam:p22:28
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jrollsee most of y'all in dublin - to the rest, have a good couple of weeks, I'll be back here on the 13th :)22:32
NobodyCamhave a great trip jroll22:32
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