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| arne_wiebalck | JayF: Thanks for the pointer! | 06:58 |
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| dtantsur | morning ironic | 08:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/python-ironic-inspector-client stable/pike: CI: stop trying to pull the tempest plugin from ironic-inspector https://review.openstack.org/591962 | 08:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/python-ironic-inspector-client stable/ocata: CI: stop trying to pull the tempest plugin from ironic-inspector https://review.openstack.org/591965 | 08:38 |
| arne_wiebalck | good morning ironic | 08:39 |
| arne_wiebalck | dtantsur: concerning the RAM footprint of the APIs we discussed 2 weeks ago: we’ve meanwhile moved to apache/mod_wsgi | 08:40 |
| dtantsur | morning arne_wiebalck | 08:40 |
| arne_wiebalck | dtantsur: using process gives the same as eventlet (300MB RSS/process) | 08:40 |
| arne_wiebalck | dtantsur: “using processes” == 16 processes with 1 thread each | 08:41 |
| arne_wiebalck | dtantsur: when using more threads per process, the overall RSS goes down, per process goes up | 08:41 |
| dtantsur | hmm, curious | 08:42 |
| arne_wiebalck | dtantsur: so, 1 process/16 threads gives sth like 2GB in total | 08:42 |
| dtantsur | btw TheJulia discovered that it's better to have more threads per process since some operations are blocking | 08:42 |
| arne_wiebalck | dtantsur: which is better than the 16x 300MB before, but still quite high | 08:42 |
| arne_wiebalck | dtantsur: yeah, not sure if we should minimise RAM, i.e. 1 proc/16 threads or go with sth like 4 procs/4threads each which would match the underlying host | 08:43 |
| arne_wiebalck | dtantsur: we’re still experimenting | 08:44 |
| arne_wiebalck | dtantsur: btw, talk for berllin was accepted, so we will report there :) | 08:44 |
| dtantsur | \o/ | 08:45 |
| dtantsur | yeah, I was glad at least something about openstack was accepted :D | 08:45 |
| arne_wiebalck | :-D | 08:45 |
| arne_wiebalck | dtantsur: we give it another try to understand as to why the API is using that much RAM … seems still excessive. | 08:47 |
| dtantsur | yep, it's unusual, though not completely unusual for python | 08:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/networking-generic-switch master: Detection of errors for Dell PowerConnect devices https://review.openstack.org/589961 | 11:33 |
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| jroll | morning | 11:44 |
| dtantsur | morning jroll | 11:45 |
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| dtantsur | does anyone know if people who attended the Dublin PTG will receive a free ticket for the Berlin summit? | 12:11 |
| jroll | not sure, though I know ATC gets in for $300 | 12:11 |
| jroll | wouldn't it be the denver PTG though? | 12:11 |
| dtantsur | jroll: previously it was last two PTGs | 12:12 |
| jroll | ah | 12:12 |
| jroll | I see denver attendees get free ticket to the next two summits, good to know | 12:12 |
| dtantsur | I highly count on this :) | 12:15 |
| jroll | you aren't in denver, are you? | 12:15 |
| jroll | or will not be, I should say | 12:15 |
| dtantsur | no, I won't | 12:16 |
| jroll | :( | 12:17 |
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| TheJulia | Good morning everyone | 12:22 |
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| dtantsur | morning TheJulia | 12:27 |
| jroll | \o TheJulia | 12:27 |
| etingof | good morning jroll & TheJulia o/ | 12:27 |
| jroll | hey etingof | 12:27 |
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| TheJulia | it doesn't help that it has been storming here for the past four hours | 12:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jim Rollenhagen proposed openstack/bifrost master: WIP: attempt to fix centos CI https://review.openstack.org/592019 | 12:51 |
| TheJulia | The storm is literally so loud we could barely hear our alarm clock and I can barely hear myself think | 12:52 |
| TheJulia | mmmm coffeee | 12:52 |
| jroll | wow | 12:52 |
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| dtantsur | wow indeed | 13:00 |
| dtantsur | it's quite sleepy on this side of the world as well | 13:00 |
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| TheJulia | There is 2-3" of flood waters all around us too :\ | 13:21 |
| TheJulia | luckily all low lying area with drainage.... albeit slow because of it being fairly flat | 13:22 |
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| TheJulia | speaking of memory footprints, that might be a good topic for discussion. I would <3 to fit a conductor on a switch. | 13:26 |
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| TheJulia | good morning mjturek | 13:38 |
| mjturek | gm TheJulia! | 13:39 |
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| ajya | dtantsur, (and another core reviewer) can you take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/538338/ it has had its share of reviews and it could be close to merging, thanks | 15:04 |
| patchbot | patch 538338 - sushy-tools - Support EthernetInterface resource in the emulator - 9h 24m 34s spent in CI | 15:04 |
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| dtantsur | ajya: on a meeting, will look afterwards | 15:08 |
| rpioso | Good morning, ironicers | 15:08 |
| anupn | Hi folks, is there some more configurations required for proxies other than setting them in driver_info? I see my ramdisk is not getting downloaded during provisioning | 15:10 |
| TheJulia | dtantsur: arne_wiebalck: going back to the raid discussion yesterday, Please take a look at https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2003445 which might relate to auto-created raid sets (and actually software raid created on a prior step) | 15:24 |
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| dtantsur | TheJulia: so, what's the specific suggestion? also accept types starting with "raid"? +1 then | 15:26 |
| TheJulia | change what we report and look for "raid" in the string | 15:26 |
| TheJulia | I guess I should have put that in there | 15:26 |
| dtantsur | I'm still worried about trying to use devices that are used for RAID. Ironic will certainly do it - it picks the smallest device | 15:26 |
| dtantsur | yes please | 15:26 |
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| dtantsur | also I'd really prefer somebody tries the whole flow (introspection, cleaning, deployment) on some real install before we call it supported | 15:27 |
| TheJulia | ++ | 15:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Aija Jaunteva proposed openstack/sushy master: Update to use mapped field for Settings Message Severity field https://review.openstack.org/591612 | 16:03 |
| NobodyCam | Good Morning Ironic'ers | 16:05 |
| TheJulia | good morning NobodyCam | 16:05 |
| NobodyCam | Good Morning TheJulia | 16:05 |
| NobodyCam | How goes the journey home? | 16:06 |
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| TheJulia | great until about 20 minutes ago when we noticed our roof vent was dripping water. It has been raining here in Oklahoma this week every day with massive overnight storms | 16:14 |
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| ajya | dtantsur, TheJulia, here is a thing about licenses for sushy project - about including JSON files from Redfish spec that sushy need to provide some functionality. The files are provided by DMTF that are not licensed yet, but need to be licensed for anyone to use. DMTF is going to license these with CC BY which would allow users to download them manually or sushy to download them automatically which is not ideal and has some | 16:16 |
| ajya | limitations. Then there is question what needs to be done for sushy to include them in its repo. DMTF was expecting that CC BY will be sufficient to include in the repo. I've been exchanging emails with OpenStack legal mailing list and they say that tech committee would have to review this case-by-case. Has anyone had experience with tech committee reviewing the licenses and do we need to go this direction at all(including 3rd party | 16:16 |
| ajya | files in the sushy repo)? | 16:16 |
| dtantsur | ajya: I'm quite surprised that we cannot include schema files under CC-BY in the repo.. but I guess they know better. I don't have experience in such cases. | 16:17 |
| ajya | dtantsur, is not covered in OSI approved licenses, because it is not software license as such, so anything outside OSI approved needs to be reviewed individually. | 16:19 |
| dtantsur | mmmm right | 16:19 |
| ajya | They have given some samples where CC BY is approved, but still it requires approval from them. | 16:19 |
| ajya | but generally they have been suggesting all the time not to include the files in the repo. And then I'm wondering do we really, really need that. | 16:20 |
| dtantsur | ajya: I still think that the most critical part is to distinguish success from failure in general | 16:23 |
| TheJulia | woot, roof leak is going to require some dry weather to repair it :( | 16:23 |
| dtantsur | :( | 16:23 |
| dtantsur | ajya: and if we have a link to registries, we can try to fetch it (I'm not sure if it's okay legally) | 16:23 |
| TheJulia | ajya: my concern with having sushy download is that makes using sushy require internet access which is not always feasible. A lot of operators end up using ironic or testing ironic in environments where there simply is no internet access | 16:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Jim Rollenhagen proposed openstack/bifrost master: WIP: attempt to fix centos CI https://review.openstack.org/592019 | 16:24 |
| ajya | dtantsur, downloading automatically is ok with CC BY | 16:25 |
| TheJulia | ajya: I think the TC would be willing to take up the discussion A good time to raise it would be during the office hours tomorrow | 16:25 |
| jroll | I don't think the TC would get involved in a licensing discussion where openstack-legal@ is already engaged | 16:26 |
| jroll | agree that downloading at runtime is a no-go | 16:26 |
| ajya | TheJulia, yes, we have talked about not having internet access which is the drawback for downloading the files during installation | 16:26 |
| ajya | ok, it looks like there is strong support for putting the files in the repo. So I will ask in the legal mailing list to proceed? | 16:27 |
| TheJulia | jroll: If legal is deferring, we would at least discuss it and try to figure out what we percieve the path forward to be... which would likely be foundation legal | 16:27 |
| jroll | if the legal team is not okay with it, what if we... documented that some sort of spec is required at $location to run the redfish driver. and it's up to the deployer to provide that spec. we document that there happens to be such a spec at $url | 16:27 |
| jroll | TheJulia: legal folks don't appear to be deferring, they just need to spend the time to review it | 16:28 |
| TheJulia | ahh, I misinterpretted the discusison so far | 16:28 |
| jroll | (but I haven't read the emails, only what's been said here) | 16:28 |
| TheJulia | \o/ | 16:28 |
| ajya | well, it's hard to say :) but they are supporting the case where files are not included in the repo more | 16:29 |
| TheJulia | realistically, companies like redhat would have to package the specs for automated disconnected installs, or redfish support would be not viable | 16:29 |
| ajya | sorry :( | 16:29 |
| jroll | sure, packagers would make their own decisions about it | 16:30 |
| jroll | that's why I said deployer, not operator :) | 16:30 |
| jroll | I do agree it's an extra burden, and the legal team should do their job and review this case | 16:30 |
| TheJulia | +1 | 16:32 |
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| ajya | ok, then I get back to them asking for review | 16:33 |
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| TheJulia | ajya: It would seem like the DMTF should consider dual licensing with OSS project being granted an MIT or Apache license.... else otherwise how would anyone implement support without a special license... that is if the files are truly required to use and grok the schema, and if that is the case how would the feature ever be adoptable | 16:39 |
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| ajya | TheJulia, at first they did not want to license the files at all because they thought that license is not necessary - as the files are a part of specification. Then they looked at licensing with BSD3, but rejected that idea as they don't see these files as code. They picked BSD3 because they have policy to use only BSD, so not expecting to have Apache or MIT at all. | 16:43 |
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| TheJulia | well, That would work too, and makes sense why this didn't come up until now | 16:50 |
| * etingof wonders if mraineri keeps an eye on this conversation ^ | 16:50 | |
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| TheJulia | I guess it all boils down to what exactly are these considered... since schema bits for understanding things seems code-ish. tl;dr it is going to have to be a foundation legal and tc discussion. | 17:02 |
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| ajya | they are standard registries at https://redfish.dmtf.org/schemas/registries/ - list of possible error messages | 17:09 |
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| TheJulia | ajya: I'm going to place procedural blocks the patch series and anything else that looks like it might be related in any way/shape/form until we get this sorted out. | 17:39 |
| dtantsur | on PTO till end of week, see you on Monday | 17:40 |
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| TheJulia | enjoy dtantsur|afk! | 17:41 |
| jroll | cheers dtantsur|afk :) | 17:45 |
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| ajya | TheJulia, fyi & to clarify current implementation expects that user will download the files manually (as initial version), there are no 3rd party files in the patches | 17:46 |
| TheJulia | ajya: I understand, but if we would now need a file to have a functional sushy library, then it is functionally crippled without that. It is not great and this seems to be a question that impacts sushy and sushy-tools in general. | 17:51 |
| TheJulia | ajya: I am likely also being overly cautious | 17:53 |
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| TheJulia | ajya[m]: for what its worth, you may want to join #openstack-tc | 18:42 |
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| etingof | just a quick note that sushy-tools do not depend on sushy, these are completely independent from each other | 18:53 |
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| etingof | btw, we do ship some DMTF-copyrighted files with sushy-tools already | 18:55 |
| etingof | e.g. mocks | 18:55 |
| TheJulia | are they actual dmtf mocks? some of the data looked like it might have been reverse engineering based mocks? | 18:56 |
| ajya | do you mean mocks for sushy-static or sample json files for unittesting? | 18:56 |
| TheJulia | ajya: great question | 18:57 |
| ajya | because for sushy-static mock files need to be downloaded by users | 18:57 |
| TheJulia | the mock jsons and the response templates just seem to works attempting to be compliant to the specification | 18:59 |
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| etingof | the question is if reverse engineering is legally sound? | 19:02 |
| * etingof is not a lawyer | 19:03 | |
| etingof | ah, I referred to these files -- https://github.com/openstack/sushy-tools/blob/master/sushy_tools/emulator/templates/root.json#L11 | 19:04 |
| TheJulia | That is a separate question from this which is the storing fallback mapping data in the repo which is a specification object. | 19:05 |
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| * TheJulia wonders if that is required by the spec.... | 19:06 | |
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| * etingof is wondering how much the fallback message files we are cautious about are different from the sushy-tools templates? ^ | 19:06 | |
| TheJulia | etingof: I don't think any of this specifically has been proposed for tools in terms of the emulator, the simulation still requires the simulation files to be downloaded from the dmtf... as I understand it | 19:08 |
| etingof | that's correct, one needs to download the jsons for the static emulator | 19:09 |
| TheJulia | https://github.com/openstack/sushy-tools/blob/master/doc/source/user/index.rst | 19:09 |
| TheJulia | yup | 19:09 |
| etingof | my confusion is this: if it is legal to include essentially rendered schema (this is what sushy-tools templates are seems to be), can we include message registry files? if not, what's the difference? | 19:11 |
| ajya3 | good question, e.g., is it ok to have this file in the repo - https://github.com/openstack/sushy/blob/master/sushy/tests/unit/json_samples/bare_minimum_root.json | 19:13 |
| ajya3 | and that's from sushy project, not sushy tools | 19:13 |
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| jroll | etingof: well, consider nobody has said it is legal to include the sushy-tools templates :) | 19:21 |
| jroll | it just apparently did not come up in review and such | 19:21 |
| TheJulia | etingof: the difference is is something directly derived from or copied. The other question that arises is given shifting positions what is the next position to head in | 19:23 |
| TheJulia | and then there is the fair use question | 19:25 |
| TheJulia | ajya3: I guess the question is, is it a copy or something the dmtf created, or is it simply trying to conform to the specification set forth? | 19:25 |
| ajya3 | TheJulia, it depends, I think some of the files could be taken from Redfish specification and adjusted for tests to change some values, add or remove some fields. | 19:29 |
| etingof | the copyright statement -- https://www.dmtf.org/about/policies/copyright | 19:30 |
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| TheJulia | ajya3: in that case, and re-reading the copyright policy for the DMTF for the third time today, it feels like, and continues to feel like fair use to meet the goal. I guess this kind of goes to my question is if the copyright is required/expected for the messages exchanged | 19:35 |
| TheJulia | on a plus side, tc wise the discussion seems to be going in a positive direction :) | 19:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Christopher Dearborn proposed openstack/ironic stable/queens: Fix for Unable to create RAID1 on Dell BOSS card https://review.openstack.org/592187 | 19:40 |
| ajya3 | TheJulia, yeah, DMTF is ok that parts are used and that's why they think that no license was required for Registry files too, it's the OpenStack side that required some kind of license | 19:40 |
| TheJulia | we're all being too cautious... but for good reason | 19:41 |
| etingof | afaik, OS needs an OSI approved license | 19:41 |
| TheJulia | yeah, and is it documentation or is it in a sense metadata context | 19:42 |
| TheJulia | or is it code | 19:42 |
| etingof | I'd say - both ;) | 19:43 |
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| etingof | json is famous for being both machine and human readable serialization form | 19:43 |
| TheJulia | committing an entire file though that is obviously a DMTF direct work product already now considered under a specific license is as mentioned a gray area :\ | 19:44 |
| TheJulia | that is a super good point etingof | 19:44 |
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| etingof | on the other hand, our json licensing trouble is nothing in comparison to human genes patents controversy... | 19:50 |
| * etingof is trying to be supportive | 19:51 | |
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| TheJulia | lol | 19:54 |
| etingof | yeah, JSON schema rendering vs DNA transcription... | 19:58 |
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| TheJulia | so the cc license allows for adaptation as long as the license is know, most of the examples include the copyright link which is actually correct afaik even though it is test data. I think ideally they all should or should realistically, even though it is test data. | 20:03 |
| TheJulia | well, cc-by-3.0 | 20:03 |
| TheJulia | the true question is the whole file, which hopefully there will be more clarity on. I'll raise it during office hours tomorrow | 20:05 |
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| ajya3 | thanks for all the help, talk to you soon | 20:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | waleed mousa proposed openstack/ironic-python-agent master: Configuring mellanox interfaces using ironic python agent https://review.openstack.org/566544 | 21:57 |
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