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| eandersson | Anyone have any experience with something similar to this type of error? | 02:52 |
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| eandersson | > Failed to get power state for node xxx. Error: format requires a mapping | 02:52 |
| eandersson | Guessing it's some type of driver error | 02:52 |
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| galaxyblr | Hi We are planning to deploy Ironic in our existing openstack ( queens ) setup with ansible but not clear about the network diagram to connect Baremetal node with stack to get dhcp & tftp net seamlessly. If anybody could share us a network diagram that will be a great help.. | 06:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Nguyen Van Trung proposed openstack/ironic stable/rocky: Fix not exist deploy image within irmc-virtual-media booting https://review.openstack.org/592247 | 06:46 |
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| dtantsur | morning ironic. another hot day, hopefully the last this summer :( | 08:35 |
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| S4ren | Morning | 08:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic-specs master: Move the inspector boot management spec to backlog https://review.openstack.org/595549 | 08:55 |
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| etingof | dtantsur, how hot is it? it's gonna be just 33 over here today %-/ | 10:29 |
| dtantsur | etingof: yeah, something like this. up to 35 | 10:29 |
| etingof | heh | 10:29 |
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| etingof | + it's going to be py3 build of vbmc first time ever! | 10:49 |
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| jroll | morning | 12:11 |
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| dtantsur | morning jroll | 12:28 |
| TheJulia | good morning everyone | 12:30 |
| jroll | \o dtantsur TheJulia | 12:30 |
| dtantsur | morning TheJulia | 12:30 |
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| etingof | good morning TheJulia and jroll o/ | 12:36 |
| jroll | hey etingof \o | 12:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Paul Belanger proposed openstack/bifrost stable/pike: Refactor bifrost-integration-dhcp jobs https://review.openstack.org/594267 | 12:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Paul Belanger proposed openstack/bifrost stable/pike: Refactor bifrost-integration-dibipa-debian jobs https://review.openstack.org/594268 | 12:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Paul Belanger proposed openstack/bifrost stable/pike: Refactor bifrost-integration-tinyipa jobs https://review.openstack.org/594269 | 12:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Paul Belanger proposed openstack/bifrost stable/pike: Refactor bifrost-integration-tinyipa jobs https://review.openstack.org/594269 | 12:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/python-ironic-inspector-client stable/pike: Two changes to fix the stable/pike CI https://review.openstack.org/591962 | 12:53 |
| openstackgerrit | Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/python-ironic-inspector-client stable/ocata: Two changes to fix the stable/ocata CI https://review.openstack.org/591965 | 12:55 |
| * dtantsur makes sadpanda at ^^^ | 12:55 | |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/bifrost stable/pike: Only install libvirt-python and python-lxml via pip https://review.openstack.org/595280 | 13:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/bifrost stable/queens: Pin get-pip.py to 3.2 https://review.openstack.org/594529 | 13:05 |
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| TheJulia | sadpanda-inghappens sadly :( | 13:12 |
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| pabelanger | morning, could I get a review on more backports of removal of legacy nodes: https://review.openstack.org/594267 https://review.openstack.org/594268 and https://review.openstack.org/594269 | 13:18 |
| patchbot | patch 594267 - bifrost (stable/pike) - Refactor bifrost-integration-dhcp jobs - 0h 19m 50s spent in CI | 13:18 |
| patchbot | patch 594268 - bifrost (stable/pike) - Refactor bifrost-integration-dibipa-debian jobs - 0h 21m 9s spent in CI | 13:18 |
| patchbot | patch 594269 - bifrost (stable/pike) - Refactor bifrost-integration-tinyipa jobs - 0h 20m 6s spent in CI | 13:18 |
| TheJulia | pabelanger: sure, I'll try to take a look in a little bit. Thanks! | 13:19 |
| TheJulia | dtantsur: would it be possible for you to chair the meeting the monday after the PTG? I'm looking at having to change my travel plans right now, so I may be in the air during the meeting | 13:19 |
| dtantsur | TheJulia: I think so. I don't remember having any plans for September. | 13:21 |
| mjturek | gm ironic | 13:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/python-ironicclient stable/pike: Avoid tox_install.sh for constraints support https://review.openstack.org/595784 | 13:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/python-ironicclient stable/ocata: Avoid tox_install.sh for constraints support https://review.openstack.org/595785 | 13:29 |
| dtantsur | and again ^^^ | 13:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Ilya Etingof proposed openstack/sushy master: Add a virtual media resource https://review.openstack.org/570810 | 13:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ilya Etingof proposed openstack/sushy master: Add a virtual media resource https://review.openstack.org/570810 | 13:37 |
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| dtantsur | TheJulia or jroll: gate fixing backports: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/591962/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/591965/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/595785/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/595784/ | 14:08 |
| patchbot | patch 591962 - python-ironic-inspector-client (stable/pike) - Two changes to fix the stable/pike CI - 1h 50m 51s spent in CI | 14:08 |
| patchbot | patch 591965 - python-ironic-inspector-client (stable/ocata) - Two changes to fix the stable/ocata CI - 1h 44m 22s spent in CI | 14:08 |
| patchbot | patch 595785 - python-ironicclient (stable/ocata) - Avoid tox_install.sh for constraints support - 0h 17m 2s spent in CI | 14:08 |
| patchbot | patch 595784 - python-ironicclient (stable/pike) - Avoid tox_install.sh for constraints support - 0h 20m 0s spent in CI | 14:08 |
| jroll | dat's a lot of patches | 14:09 |
| jroll | gimme a few | 14:09 |
| dtantsur | they're quite small in reality :) mostly removing a lot of code | 14:09 |
| jroll | yeah, just queue backups this morning | 14:16 |
| jroll | dtantsur: +W all around | 14:18 |
| dtantsur | thanks! | 14:19 |
| jroll | you're welcome | 14:22 |
| TheJulia | come to think about it.... I should just cancel the meeting immediately after the ptg | 14:30 |
| TheJulia | any immediate objections to doing so? Otherwise I'll poll during the meeting this next week. | 14:31 |
| jroll | +1 | 14:32 |
| jroll | chances are I won't be here anyway | 14:32 |
| TheJulia | NobodyCam: there are some quick stable/pike bifrost patches if your interested :) | 14:33 |
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| TheJulia | I guess it comes down to if I'm in a metal tube that day or not. :\ | 14:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-ironic-inspector-client stable/pike: Two changes to fix the stable/pike CI https://review.openstack.org/591962 | 15:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-ironic-inspector-client stable/ocata: Two changes to fix the stable/ocata CI https://review.openstack.org/591965 | 15:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ironic-inspector master: Add rootwrap filter for systemctl control of dnsmasq https://review.openstack.org/593114 | 15:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-ironicclient stable/pike: Avoid tox_install.sh for constraints support https://review.openstack.org/595784 | 15:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-ironicclient stable/ocata: Avoid tox_install.sh for constraints support https://review.openstack.org/595785 | 15:20 |
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| deray | hello all Ironic'ers! | 15:25 |
| deray | I was trying to gauge the status of work related to "Automatic update of discovered properties via introspection" ... | 15:31 |
| TheJulia | o/ | 15:33 |
| TheJulia | deray: is there a spec or rfe that you can link to, because I'm not quite aware of that one | 15:33 |
| deray | I am under the impression that we had decided to split the ironic-inspector implementation and pluck out the implementation of that automated updation of node properties with inspected data into some service / lib to be reused by both ironic and ironic-inspector | 15:33 |
| deray | TheJulia, o/ | 15:34 |
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| TheJulia | deray: that is the long term plan of sorts, although the groundwork for that is starting to be put in place, it might be a while. | 15:35 |
| TheJulia | deray: interested in helping out? :) | 15:35 |
| deray | TheJulia, I am also not sure whether there was any spec .. this thing got discussed during the Pike / Queens PTG as per the information I have .. sadly I was following that up too closely at the point | 15:35 |
| deray | TheJulia, > interested in helping out? :) .. yeah of course | 15:36 |
| deray | :) | 15:36 |
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| TheJulia | Yeah, we've had a few contributors leave the inspector community and few really interested to begin working on splitting that out | 15:36 |
| deray | TheJulia, okay .. | 15:37 |
| TheJulia | deray: I think it would be good for you to chat with kaifeng, but they are in Aisa so have already gone to sleep | 15:37 |
| TheJulia | deray: if you can make our weekly meeting next Monday, they will be present then. | 15:37 |
| TheJulia | or, at least most likely will be. | 15:38 |
| TheJulia | That being said, kaifeng is doing a lot of work on inspector right now, so it it would be good to chat, maybe come up with a basic plan together and go from there. | 15:38 |
| deray | TheJulia, okay good to have the contact of kaifeng! will try to touch base with kaifeng .. (I am also in the Asia tz too ;) ) I will be happy to help him! | 15:40 |
| TheJulia | That is great news! | 15:40 |
| TheJulia | dtantsur: bifrost patch for openstacksdk install almost done, just waiting for it to finish running locally | 15:40 |
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| deray | TheJulia, will definitely join in next Monday meet then if kaifeng et al have already planned a presentation for that then | 15:41 |
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| deray | TheJulia, my pleasure :) | 15:41 |
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| dtantsur | TheJulia: awesome! | 15:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Julia Kreger proposed openstack/bifrost master: Add openstacksdk to installed packages https://review.openstack.org/595820 | 15:44 |
| TheJulia | dtantsur: works locally, there is a slightly different logic path for in CI because folders/paths get reset, but it shouldn't be a problem | 15:44 |
| TheJulia | so you can rebase your test patch on it and it should be good to go. | 15:44 |
| dtantsur | TheJulia: is removing ironicclient_source_install intentional? | 15:45 |
| TheJulia | from the readme, yes | 15:45 |
| TheJulia | it was wrong | 15:45 |
| TheJulia | We stopped source installing the python-ironicclient when shade was transitioned away from python-ironicclient | 15:46 |
| dtantsur | k | 15:46 |
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| TheJulia | rloo: out of curiosity, does the updated https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2002161 make sense? | 16:21 |
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| rloo | looking... | 16:24 |
| rloo | TheJulia: yes, it makes sense. | 16:25 |
| rloo | TheJulia: what i'm not sure of now, are the details :) | 16:26 |
| TheJulia | that is a good point, I guess dmitry, yolonda, and myself are all kind of viewing it as just a node object field that can be used in the determination if cleaning applies. | 16:26 |
| rloo | TheJulia: yeah, i wasn't sure about the driver_info thing but i see that dmitry already commented about that. | 16:27 |
| TheJulia | Although, was there ever clarification or discussion regarding the three way settable field I feel like it was established that it was viable and would work... but I don't remember. | 16:27 |
| TheJulia | yeah | 16:27 |
| TheJulia | the fun of how ideas evolve :) | 16:27 |
| rloo | what three-way settable field? do i need to look at all the comments? | 16:28 |
| jroll | > I'd prefer we have node.automated_clean={None, True, False}, where None (the default) uses the configuration. | 16:28 |
| jroll | rloo: ^ | 16:28 |
| rloo | there should be more description if we're not going to write a spec for it | 16:28 |
| rloo | oh. yeah. that makes sense :) | 16:29 |
| rloo | cuz you want it both ways. if config is YES, you may want to turn it off for a particular node. | 16:29 |
| dtantsur | exactly, e.g. in case of ramdisk deploy (where cleaning may be useless) | 16:29 |
| dtantsur | or for some super-important pet node..\ | 16:30 |
| rloo | what i really want is to be able to specify rules, eg. no cleaning for nodes with interface=foobar | 16:30 |
| rloo | that's a general comment though ;) | 16:31 |
| JayF | It seems to me like a security vuln waiting to happen if you have a cleaning=true, but then a way to except a node from cleaning | 16:31 |
| JayF | I'd almost think you might want to add a third option the parent config option that would indicate to always clean regardless of node setup | 16:32 |
| JayF | but you all know how paranoid I was about cleaning getting missed on a node | 16:32 |
| JayF | but I don't get a vote anymore ;) | 16:32 |
| TheJulia | I concur, I'm just worried about the fact that we have people that completely disable cleaning today. | 16:33 |
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| rloo | JayF: yes, you get a vote! | 16:33 |
| TheJulia | JayF: But you bring such a valid point! | 16:33 |
| JayF | yeah, I like the idea of there being a middle ground, just would be concerned about the ability to edit node attrs == ability to cause cleaning to skip | 16:33 |
| JayF | which is a big boost in surface for cleaning getting missed | 16:33 |
| * TheJulia also considers JayF getting a vote because he is serving as our sanity check | 16:33 | |
| rloo | we should have a separate policy for changing that field | 16:34 |
| TheJulia | I ws actually thinking we do need to discuss api polocies | 16:34 |
| TheJulia | and the long term api goals | 16:34 |
| JayF | more that the entire time I worked on OnMetal, I was afraid of the "oh shit we didn't clean a disk" call (which never happened, b/c of said paranoia, lol) | 16:34 |
| rloo | so really, everyone gets a vote. just some of us get 2 points/vote. | 16:34 |
| * TheJulia would gladly bring scotch for that discussion | 16:34 | |
| JayF | yeah, just take all this with the grains of salt required since I'm not up to date on ironic :) | 16:34 |
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| * TheJulia wonders if anyone would notice if she adds api policies and long term api goals to the discussion list | 16:36 | |
| TheJulia | We've secretly replaced her coffee with decaf... | 16:37 |
| * TheJulia is in a weird mood | 16:37 | |
| rloo | (I'm not sure I want to know what 'api policy' means...) | 16:37 |
| JayF | I think policy as in, policy.json | 16:37 |
| dtantsur | it's an nice RFE: prevent editing of certain fields via policy | 16:38 |
| rloo | JayF: oh. what needs to be discussed, it exists! :) | 16:38 |
| dtantsur | e.g. nobody can change automated_clean and only BigAdmin can change driver_info and driver | 16:39 |
| dtantsur | dunno how easy it is to do | 16:39 |
| JayF | probably saner defaults would be my guess -- again I'm outta date -- but that's something I always wanted to follow up on our policy support | 16:39 |
| rloo | I thought we had sane defaults :-( | 16:39 |
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| JayF | https://docs.openstack.org/ironic/latest/configuration/sample-policy.html this is a *lot* better than it was last time I saw it | 16:41 |
| JayF | nice | 16:41 |
| rloo | JayF: sometimes it seems like nothing has changed, but I know we've done *something* these past few years ;) | 16:43 |
| JayF | I mean, you say that, but I always felt -- even when I was a core on the project living it every day -- that there were large swaths of ironic functionality I just never touched | 16:44 |
| JayF | I think probably easier to appreciate at a distance, though | 16:44 |
| rloo | JayF: I *still* feel like there are parts that i never touch! | 16:46 |
| jroll | I wonder if a better proposal, which still solves the problem, would be to only allow for a "cleaning on" override, and not a "cleaning off" | 16:49 |
| jroll | I honestly just want to block it | 16:49 |
| jroll | the problem it's solving is "tripleo refuses to turn cleaning on, but needs it for some nodes" | 16:49 |
| jroll | which I just want to say "you're bad and you should feel bad" | 16:49 |
| JayF | jroll: yes, exactly what I was getting at | 16:50 |
| jroll | yep :) | 16:50 |
| JayF | jroll: well, this also applies to the mikal case he used to bug us on | 16:50 |
| jroll | JayF: I don't recall this one | 16:50 |
| JayF | jroll: like maybe we could've not had --preserve-ephemeral if we had this knob at some earlier point | 16:50 |
| JayF | jroll: giant hadoop clusters -> want to reprovision without cleaning to not lose data | 16:50 |
| jroll | ah right | 16:50 |
| dtantsur | jroll: cleaning off is useful for things like ramdisk deploy driver | 16:50 |
| dtantsur | also.. I'm also good at bashing tripleo, but pet cases exist and we cannot just hide our heads in sand :-/ | 16:51 |
| JayF | I really like the idea of "you can set it off for all, and enable it on a case by case" WITHOUT "you can set it on for all, and disable it on a case by case" | 16:52 |
| jroll | dtantsur: I don't see why pets need cleaning off, tbh | 16:52 |
| jroll | you just don't delete pets | 16:52 |
| dtantsur | jroll: how many times have you helped people recovering from 'heat stack-delete <everything>'? :) 2-3 for me, I think. | 16:53 |
| jroll | ugh | 16:53 |
| dtantsur | (also, what weirdo would have backups for production before messing with their heat stack?) | 16:53 |
| jroll | running software insecurely is not a replacement for stupidity | 16:54 |
| dtantsur | I never got an answer to question "what made you type 'stack delete' on your production".. | 16:54 |
| jroll | s/stupidity/mistakes/, sorry | 16:54 |
| jroll | at any rate, I won't totally block it, but I will yell from the mountains that cleaning=off is bad | 16:55 |
| jroll | but I very very much think we should consider only allowing overriding to on | 16:55 |
| dtantsur | trust me, I do it regularly :) you can find the last thread by looking for "[tripleo]" and "cleaning" | 16:55 |
| jroll | I know you do | 16:55 |
| dtantsur | jroll: ignoring tripleo, what to do with things like ramdisk deploy? | 16:56 |
| dtantsur | force cleaning for them as well? | 16:56 |
| jroll | I think cleaning should be on for ramdisk deploy, yes | 16:56 |
| jroll | cleaning is not only erasing disks | 16:56 |
| dtantsur | well, what we ship is IIRC only erasing disks | 16:56 |
| jroll | yes, because hardware vendors suck :( | 16:56 |
| dtantsur | and people from HPC may not appreciate waiting an hour to wipe a disk that was not used | 16:56 |
| jroll | if we have a real user asking for global cleaning on with overrides to off, I will reconsider | 16:57 |
| jroll | but I don't see that | 16:57 |
| jroll | and doing that is a great way to shoot yourself in the foot when your HPC application is updated to use the disk, but you forget to remove the override | 16:58 |
| dtantsur | well, we can start with accepting {None, True} for now, and add {False} later if needed | 16:58 |
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| jroll | yes, that is what I'm proposing | 16:58 |
| dtantsur | though knowing people.. I'm still fighting with disabling cleaning as the only way to debug failed cleaning | 16:58 |
| jroll | JayF: congrats, you've successfully contributed to ironic | 16:59 |
| dtantsur | yolanda: discussion re your RFE ^^^ | 16:59 |
| JayF | that's an even more compelling reason to not allow a per-node-cleaning-skip | 16:59 |
| jroll | dtantsur: isn't that what power_off_after_cleanfail is for? | 16:59 |
| JayF | "what's this cleaning error on node x? Just going to disable that..." | 17:00 |
| JayF | :shudder: | 17:00 |
| jroll | JayF: ++ | 17:00 |
| dtantsur | JayF: well, they just disable it globally | 17:00 |
| JayF | jroll: I'll be waiting for my extra-atcs :P | 17:00 |
| dtantsur | so we're not going to make it worse | 17:00 |
| JayF | dtantsur: that's at least ... more easily discoverable | 17:00 |
| jroll | our team is cleaning up a mess from someone disabling a different thing that is not cleaning | 17:00 |
| JayF | if you have that ironic.conf managed from a config system, just like you actually should | 17:00 |
| JayF | then it would get reverted | 17:00 |
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| JayF | vs a bad operator performing a bad action on a single node | 17:01 |
| jroll | anyway it's 1300 and I haven't eaten anything today, so I'll bbl | 17:01 |
| JayF | which can go *very undetected* in a large environmnet | 17:01 |
| dtantsur | JayF: well, I'm talking about people running clouds, they can do it with puppet as well... | 17:01 |
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| dtantsur | anyway, these are just my regular complaints :) | 17:01 |
| JayF | it's still like, an auditable change at that point | 17:01 |
| * TheJulia grumbles about words being annoying | 17:01 | |
| dtantsur | heh | 17:01 |
| TheJulia | wow, lots of words to read | 17:02 |
| JayF | TheJulia: sorry, I'm argumenative :P | 17:02 |
| TheJulia | JayF: I don't think there is anything wrong with that :) | 17:02 |
| * TheJulia wants to finish this email, so drifts back to it | 17:02 | |
| JayF | OH YEAH, WELL, WELL... me either | 17:02 |
| TheJulia | lol | 17:03 |
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| rloo | fwiw, i'm good with global clean=off, individual-node-clean-on. | 17:24 |
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| TheJulia | dtantsur: (and anyone else interested) http://www.uefi.org/sites/default/files/resources/UEFI%202_5.pdf is interesting | 17:41 |
| dtantsur | 2637 pages, yeah, very curious :) | 17:42 |
| TheJulia | airplane reading | 17:42 |
| dtantsur | yeaaah | 17:43 |
| TheJulia | see, you should come to the ptg, and read it on the way ;) | 17:45 |
| dtantsur | well, I'd like to, but $things | 17:46 |
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| * dtantsur|afk waves | 17:47 | |
| TheJulia | dtantsur|afk: completely understand :) | 17:49 |
| TheJulia | goodnight! | 17:49 |
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| yolanda | oh, dtantsur|afk , missed that sorry | 18:16 |
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| eandersson | When using openstack baremetal set --driver-info | 18:24 |
| eandersson | How would you get a single \ without it getting escaped | 18:25 |
| eandersson | e.g. "hello\world" | 18:25 |
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| eandersson | nvm | 18:34 |
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| TheJulia | :) | 19:08 |
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