Monday, 2018-09-24

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openstackgerritMerged openstack/ironic-python-agent master: add python 3.6 unit test job  https://review.openstack.org/59239503:57
openstackgerritNguyen Van Trung proposed openstack/ironic master: Update docs for troubleshooting with maintainance mode  https://review.openstack.org/58512604:00
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openstackgerritNguyen Van Trung proposed openstack/ironic master: Update docs to portgroup with creating windows images  https://review.openstack.org/58561304:11
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/sushy master: Use templates for cover and lower-constraints  https://review.openstack.org/60455005:59
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dtantsurmorning ironic08:16
dtantsurpvc_: hi, it's not possible in your release, only with 'noop' management in Rocky and on. Of course, you can hack the code manually..08:16
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openstackgerritOlivier Bourdon proposed openstack/bifrost master: Add possibility to use proper public URLs for endpoints  https://review.openstack.org/59961208:39
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openstackgerritOlivier Bourdon proposed openstack/bifrost master: Add voting and gating test with Keystone enabled  https://review.openstack.org/59954408:46
openstackgerritNguyen Van Trung proposed openstack/ironic master: Fix not detach boot image for virtual CDROM  https://review.openstack.org/60470409:04
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openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed openstack/ironic master: Restore the nova-api redirect  https://review.openstack.org/60450509:09
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openstackgerritDebayan Ray proposed openstack/sushy master: Introduce ``cache_it`` and ``cache_clear``  https://review.openstack.org/58164510:52
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openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed openstack/ironic master: Remove ironic experimental jobs  https://review.openstack.org/59167511:12
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jrollmorning everyone11:39
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etingofjroll, o/11:50
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dtantsurmorning jroll12:06
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stendulkerGood morning dtantsur, etingof12:14
etingofstendulker, o/12:14
stendulkeretingof: o/12:14
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TheJuliagood morning12:15
stendulkerGood morning TheJulia12:16
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jroll\o12:16
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TheJuliasorry I went essentially radio silent on friday. I got on my first flight and was out like a light bulb12:19
jrollyay sleep!12:20
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sambettsjroll: thanks for the PTG write up that was super useful for someone that didn't get to attend!12:36
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* TheJulia wonders when she will have braincells to write something up12:43
arne_wiebalcksambetts: +112:43
jrollsambetts: you're welcome :)12:45
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dtantsurmorning TheJulia, stendulker12:50
stendulkerdtantsur: o/12:50
stendulkerGood morning sambetts, jroll12:50
jroll\o stendulker12:53
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openstackgerritMallikarjuna Reddy Kolagatla proposed openstack/ironic master: Add admin documentation for rescue interface  https://review.openstack.org/53909113:13
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TheJuliaSo I rebuilt my desktop yesterday. Debian stretch has impressed me greatly.13:21
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TheJuliaI can even scan...13:22
TheJulia(like papers)13:22
yolandahi... i'm looking in adding the config for conv_flags in ironic, but i'd need a new tag of ironic-lib, as the changed landed in master just 3 days ago13:22
TheJuliayolanda: you seek an ironic-lib release to delineate the two functionalities?13:23
yolandai need to, yes, because the work_on_disk method of ironic-lib accepts a new parameter, that needs to be consumed from ironic13:24
TheJuliayolanda: If you would like to submit the change to the releases repo, I can review and +113:25
yolandaok i'll do13:25
TheJuliathanks13:27
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* TheJulia fights with tox :(13:31
TheJuliaapparently we don't have -W on our docs builds too13:32
sambettsthe CI doesn't use the tox env for doc builds if thats where your looking for the flag13:33
TheJuliai know13:33
sambettsah ok :)13:33
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sambettsI thought all infra based docs builds used -W now :/13:34
yolandahttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/604781/ - i generated with tox... so i hope that this is correct13:35
patchbotpatch 604781 - releases - Cut new release of ironic-lib - 1 patch set13:35
sambettskeeping the tox env in sync with what actually gets run by the CI jobs is hard...13:35
openstackgerritJulia Kreger proposed openstack/ironic-specs master: Stein priorites  https://review.openstack.org/60316113:35
TheJuliasambetts: they supposed to, but it means our in repo tests don't catch issues now13:37
* TheJulia fixes13:37
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sambettsah thats annoying when stuff slips through due to broken CI, we had that in net-cisco recently because one of our jobs was reporting success even though the tests had failed :'(13:39
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sambettss/broken/not doing what you thought it was doing13:40
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TheJulia++13:42
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TheJulia\o/ fixing doc errors13:54
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/ironic-lib stable/rocky: Update UPPER_CONSTRAINTS_FILE for stable/rocky  https://review.openstack.org/58411513:59
TheJuliaderekh: do you have a preferred tag for the zuulv3 changes you've been doing?14:04
TheJuliawell, CI cleanup I should say14:04
derekhTheJulia: nope, nothing preferred14:05
TheJuliamind if I tag them like ci-cleanup?14:05
derekhTheJulia: go for it14:06
TheJuliathanks14:06
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TheJuliaOkay, I think I got the ?3? that relate to that14:09
derekhTheJulia: ya, there is one other but it isn't ready, I'll set the topic14:10
TheJuliaJust got it14:10
derekhTheJulia: ack14:11
openstackgerrityolanda.robla proposed openstack/ironic master: WIP: Enable configuration of conversion flags for iscsi  https://review.openstack.org/60479414:14
TheJuliait is really surprising just how bad we have been with footnote tags in specs14:14
TheJulias/bad/inconsistent/14:14
openstackgerritJulia Kreger proposed openstack/ironic-specs master: Fix ironic-specs repo doc builds  https://review.openstack.org/60479714:18
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* TheJulia does etherpad cleaning14:26
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/networking-baremetal stable/pike: import zuul job settings from project-config  https://review.openstack.org/59244114:31
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TheJuliaetingof: the sushy redfish inspection work, do can you update the etherpad?14:43
TheJuliaor at least make sure it is correct14:43
etingofTheJulia, let me see14:43
TheJuliahmm, no mkrai around :(14:44
openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed openstack/ironic master: Switch grenade nic driver to e1000  https://review.openstack.org/60450614:51
openstackgerritDerek Higgins proposed openstack/ironic master: Remove token expiration  https://review.openstack.org/60450714:51
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rpiosoo/14:58
rpiosoGood morning, ironicers14:58
TheJuliao/14:58
etingofrpioso, \o14:58
rpiosoetingof, TheJulia: :)14:59
* TheJulia sifts through two weeks of mail and gets to call the clerk of court later today :(14:59
TheJuliaI got called for jury duty14:59
TheJuliaAnyway, time to go ahead and get this meeting started15:00
TheJulia#startmeeting ironic15:00
TheJuliao/15:00
openstackMeeting started Mon Sep 24 15:00:12 2018 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is TheJulia. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'ironic'15:00
dtantsur\o15:00
etingofo/15:00
kaifengo/15:00
stendulkero/15:00
derekho/15:00
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TheJuliaI hope everyone has been able to rest after the PTG and their travels!15:00
rpiosoo/15:00
rlooo/15:00
bahao/15:00
cdearborn\o15:00
TheJuliaOur agenda, as always is on the wiki.15:01
TheJulia#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic#Agenda_for_next_meeting15:01
TheJuliaIt appears we don't have anything out of the ordinary normal agenda there, so hopefully this meeting will go quickly :)15:01
TheJulia#topic Announcements/Reminders15:01
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TheJulia#info The proposed priorities for the cycle were posted last week, please review so we can set our direction for this next cycle.15:02
TheJulia#link https://review.openstack.org/60316115:02
patchbotpatch 603161 - ironic-specs - Stein priorites - 3 patch sets15:03
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TheJuliaAs an aside note, this week I'm catching up from two weeks of travel, and will be intermittently away tomorrow. If you need something ASAP, please let me know.15:04
TheJuliaAnyone else have any reminders or announcements today?15:04
mjturek\o15:04
TheJuliaI guess we can proceed then!15:05
dtantsur++15:05
TheJuliaLast week we had no action items15:06
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TheJulia#topic Review subteam status reports15:07
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TheJulia#info Since the priorities for the cycle have not been agreed upon (https://review.openstack.org/603161), there are no priorities to review at this time.15:07
patchbotpatch 603161 - ironic-specs - Stein priorites - 3 patch sets15:07
dtantsurno priorities, not subteams :)15:07
TheJuliayup!15:07
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rlooNOTHING TO DO! :D15:08
TheJulia#info Please review the stein cycle priorities.15:08
TheJulia^^^ :)15:08
TheJulia#link https://review.openstack.org/60316115:08
patchbotpatch 603161 - ironic-specs - Stein priorites - 3 patch sets15:08
TheJuliaMoving on!15:08
TheJulia#topic Deciding on priorities for the coming week15:08
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TheJuliaI started creating a new section for stein this morning, including a fix for the docs in the ironic-specs repository, and some doc/cleanup changes that make sense to continue to work on.15:08
dtantsurpriorities are a priority :)15:09
TheJuliaAnd they are.... just #2 on the list since the docs don't pass testing right now :(15:09
TheJuliahttps://review.openstack.org/60479715:09
patchbotpatch 604797 - ironic-specs - Fix ironic-specs repo doc builds - 1 patch set15:09
TheJuliaDoes anyone have anything to add to this list?15:09
dtantsurre python 3 jobs:15:10
dtantsurI'd prefer we moved to zuul v3 first15:10
dtantsurotherwise we increase the amount of copy-paste15:10
rlooi have a question about one of the ci-cleanup patches: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/591675/. should i wait for open discussion?15:10
patchbotpatch 591675 - ironic - Remove ironic experimental jobs - 2 patch sets15:10
dtantsurderekh: do you plan to do other projects as well?15:10
TheJuliadtantsur: I concur15:10
derekhdtantsur: yup, one more test to finsh, then I'll move to other repos (excluding grenade jobs)15:11
TheJuliarloo: It is on the list by virtue of the tag15:11
dtantsurderekh++ you're awesome!15:11
TheJuliaderekh: thanks!15:11
derekhnp15:11
rlooTheJulia: the question is about that particular patch. it is removing functional, dsvm-parallel, and dsvm-pxe_ipa-full. which is fine. for now. but do we want those jobs in the future?15:12
TheJuliaI noticed derekh was already heading in the direction that seemed to have consensus naming wise as well, so I think it will just be a background effort this cycle.15:12
dtantsurrloo: I don't know, to be honest. functional - maybe, the others - meh, I don't care.15:12
jroll\o (sorry I'm late)15:12
TheJuliarloo: I feel like we already have the coverage elsewhere, but I'd have to look at each individual case15:12
rloodtantsur: ok, fine with me. but we put those there so i thought someone would remember why/if we wanted them :)15:13
TheJuliao/ jroll15:13
rloois it worth opening a story about functional tests (we may have one, dunno)15:13
dtantsurrloo: well.. I think both full and parallel came from the times when we merged our virt driver into nova15:13
derekhI didn't look at the coverage of the jobs themselves, just that they don't work and they seem to have been experimental for a long time15:13
rlooAnyway, just wanted to bring those up here, in case others have thoughts about them :)15:13
dtantsurrloo: I think back at the times nova folks did not like that we cannot run tempest-full with ironic backend15:13
jrollwe've wanted those for years but nobody has prioritized them15:13
dtantsurand we tried, but it was taking 6+ hours to finish :)15:14
dtantsurand we have problems with parallel execution because nodes are scarce resource15:14
TheJuliaderekh: that is a good argument to remove them regardless :)15:14
TheJuliaOnly way to do that is on the multinode jobs really15:14
rlooi'm totally fine with removing them now (I approved it). Just want to make sure/check if we want them in the future.15:15
dtantsurif somebody wanted to invest time into CI, I'd encourage them to work on covering more ironic features, not exercising nova more15:15
TheJuliaI cleaned up the list some15:16
TheJuliaon the etherpad15:16
dtantsur++15:17
TheJuliaWith that, are we good to move on?15:17
* dtantsur is15:17
TheJuliaDoes anyone have anything to add that requires visibility this week?15:17
* dtantsur forgot to announce metalsmith moving under our governance15:17
TheJuliacongrats :)15:17
etingofdtantsur++15:17
jroll++15:18
rloo++15:18
stendulker++15:18
TheJuliaMoving to Open Discussion as we have no explicit topics or RFEs listed that require review today.15:18
TheJulia#topic Open Discussion15:18
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TheJuliaDoes anyone have anything they would like to talk about?15:19
rloo(just to recap, if anyone thinks those deleted experimental jobs would be useful in the future, please open stories to track)15:19
TheJuliarloo: ++15:19
TheJuliajroll: thank you for sending out a summary. I'll read and likely refer to it in anything I write up (if necessary).15:20
jrollyou're welcome :)15:20
TheJuliaI've got a mountain of expenses and emails to get through this week.15:20
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TheJuliaWell, I guess we can call this meeting done if there is nothing else anyone wishes to bring up.15:22
dtantsur++15:23
NobodyCam\o/15:23
rlooCRICKETS15:23
TheJuliaWell everyone, have a wonderful week!15:23
TheJuliaThanks!15:24
TheJulia#endmeeting15:24
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jrollthanks!15:26
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stendulkerHi, A query about the soft power operation.15:36
stendulkerDo driver need to wait for OS to run in case of soft reboot? Or is it enough that server is soft powered off and being powered on?15:37
dtantsurstendulker: I think we have no ways of checking the OS15:37
stendulkerdtantsur: iLO can give status till control is given to OS.15:37
dtantsuroh, interesting. does it work with any OS?15:38
stendulkerThat is OS till OS boot begin.15:38
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stendulkeryes. Its iLO state and not related to OS>15:38
dtantsurso, essentially when POST finishes?15:38
dtantsurdoes it work the same with netboot?15:38
stendulkeryes.15:39
stendulkeryes it is when post finishes.15:40
dtantsurstendulker: then I guess it makes sense to use this. But probably for all reboots, soft and hard, to avoid inconsistency.15:40
stendulkerBut we can query that status only on Gen9 and Gen1015:40
stendulkerdtantsur: I have a query about timeout for non-soft operations15:41
stendulkerI was referring spec and timeout was introduces as part of soft power operations15:41
dtantsurright, but it's still generic IIRC15:42
stendulkerthough redfish and ipmi supportes timeout for all power operations15:42
dtantsurright, I was going to point at https://github.com/openstack/ironic/blob/master/ironic/drivers/modules/ipmitool.py#L807-L81715:42
stendulkerirmc power interface supports timeout only for soft power operations https://github.com/openstack/ironic/blob/master/ironic/drivers/modules/irmc/power.py#L192-L19815:42
stendulkerI was referring to irmc when I implemented for iLO15:43
stendulkerdtantsur: Also iLo drivers had a timeout check though it was using the configured timeout for all power operations15:44
stendulkerhttps://github.com/openstack/ironic/blob/master/ironic/drivers/modules/ilo/power.py#L162-L17015:44
dtantsurstendulker: this looks wrong: even without timeout the driver should wait for the state to be applied15:44
stendulkerIf we implement timrout for all power operations, then this behavior needs to be broken15:44
stendulkerdtantsur: You mean irmc? I felt so..15:45
dtantsuryep15:46
stendulkerWht is your suggestion on iLO interface  hardcoded timeout behavior for hard power operations https://github.com/openstack/ironic/blob/master/ironic/drivers/modules/ilo/power.py#L162-L17015:46
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dtantsurstendulker: I see. I think we should allow overriding it with the provided timeout15:47
stendulkerdtantsur: I think if no timeout is given use CONF.conductor.soft_power_off_timeout and mark CONF.ilo.power_retry for deprecation15:48
dtantsur++15:48
stendulkerIt wouuld bring consistency across drivers15:48
dtantsurstendulker: also https://github.com/openstack/ironic/blob/master/ironic/conductor/utils.py#L145 may come handy15:48
stendulkerdtantsur: I looked at that, but will need to track the iLO POST state and not power state15:49
dtantsurah, I see. at least you can reuse the same configuration option15:50
stendulkerit internally calls task.driver.power.get_power_state15:50
stendulkeryes, i will use same config options15:50
stendulkerdtantsur: Thank you for your help.15:51
dtantsuryou're welcome15:51
TheJuliaWe failed to discuss forum topics15:52
TheJuliaAnyone have any thoughts that need discussion?15:52
dtantsur\o/15:52
dtantsurwell, at least we need to come up with the final list and somebody has to propose them15:52
dtantsurTheJulia: I'm personally interested in Ops Feedback and Edge15:53
TheJulialast I looked, I think only the communication flow rehash topic didn't really fit based on ptg output15:53
TheJuliaSo I guess that would be ?3? topics to submit15:53
dtantsurwe have 4 listed, but I'd prefer not to drive the CMDB one :)15:54
* dtantsur has had enough holy wars in his life15:54
TheJuliaI'm not sure that is one we really need to drive, aside from getting people in a room and making them talk15:54
TheJuliapenick: jroll: arne_wiebalck: any thoughts on a forum CMDB topic (and volunteers for that matter to run the session)?15:55
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jrollTheJulia: seems like a good topic, I'm sure either of us could run it16:01
openstackgerritDebayan Ray proposed openstack/sushy master: Introduce ``cache_it`` and ``cache_clear``  https://review.openstack.org/58164516:03
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TheJuliaI guess I can go submit stuff in an hour or so16:32
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/ironic stable/rocky: Remove wrong install-guide-jobs in zuul setup  https://review.openstack.org/60454117:23
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eanderssonWhat is the state of the DELL driver in Mitaka?17:28
rpiosoeandersson: What do you mean? Please elaborate.17:30
eanderssonWe are looking into testing it, but just wanted to know if there were any issues in general with the older versions of Ironic.17:30
rpiosoearly: We’ll, it’s been quite some time since Mitaka was released. Many improvements have been made since then to the driver and the library it uses, python-draclient.17:33
rpiosos/We’ll/Well17:33
rpiosoeandersson: ^^^17:34
rpiosoearly: I miss sent the preceding. My apologies.17:35
rpiosoeandersson: Could you use a more recent version?17:36
eanderssonWe want to use a more recent version, but it's not easy as much of our fleet is still on Mitaka/Newton.17:38
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rpiosoeandersson: I advise giving it a test drive under Newton.17:39
rpiosoeandersson: And use it with a more recent version of dracclient, the current version on pypi or, if that has an incompatibility, the immediately preceding one.17:42
rpiosoeandersson: It was substantially hardened in Newton.17:44
eanderssonYea - we can try Newton.17:44
eanderssonThanks rpioso17:44
rpiosoeandersson: Cool, and you’re welcome.17:45
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openstackgerritJulia Kreger proposed openstack/ironic-specs master: Fix ironic-specs repo doc builds  https://review.openstack.org/60479718:07
openstackgerritJulia Kreger proposed openstack/ironic-specs master: Stein priorites  https://review.openstack.org/60316118:07
TheJuliaI really hope ^^^ is it for now18:12
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/ironic stable/pike: Remove wrong install-guide-jobs in zuul setup  https://review.openstack.org/60454418:29
openstackgerritMerged openstack/ironic stable/ocata: Remove wrong install-guide-jobs in zuul setup  https://review.openstack.org/60454618:29
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/ironic master: Remove ironic experimental jobs  https://review.openstack.org/59167518:54
openstackgerritMerged openstack/ironic master: Docs for agent http provisioning  https://review.openstack.org/60193518:54
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jrollTheJulia: nice, thanks!19:02
jrollI'm +2 there19:02
TheJuliawoot19:06
TheJuliaOh the fun of delayed credit card processing19:06
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openstackgerritAija Jaunteva proposed openstack/sushy master: WIP: Add public resource loading and message parsing  https://review.openstack.org/59074719:16
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openstackgerritJim Rollenhagen proposed openstack/ironic-specs master: No IPA to conductor communication  https://review.openstack.org/21220619:46
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TheJuliaWhere can one order new sinuses from?21:12
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TheJuliastepping away for a little bit21:24
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/ironic-inspector stable/rocky: Python 3.7: fix os.errno -> errno  https://review.openstack.org/59895521:53
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TheJuliajroll: would you be up for submitting something cmdb-ish to the forum. I can moderate it if necessary. I'm just not sure the words that should be used at the moment.22:17
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