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| problem_v | Hey, sorry to bug you. We are running into an issue with the ironic client negotiating the wrong API version. | 00:48 |
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| problem_v | We are trying to implement the client in a python script and the weirdest thing is sometimes it works | 00:48 |
| problem_v | it seems to want to negotiate 1.9 instead of 1.46 which is what we are on. | 00:49 |
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| arne_wiebalck | good morning, ironic! | 06:23 |
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| rpittau | good morning ironic! o/ | 07:08 |
| rpittau | TGIF! | 07:08 |
| mkrai | rpittau: good morning o/ | 07:21 |
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| iurygregory | morning all | 07:22 |
| rpittau | hi mkrai iurygregory :) | 07:23 |
| mkrai | rpittau: I have a question. What do we write in Problem description when it is a pure feature support. | 07:24 |
| mkrai | rpittau: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/651459/2/specs/approved/support-intel-speed-select.rst | 07:24 |
| patchbot | patch 651459 - ironic-specs - Add support for Intel Speed Select in Ironic - 2 patch sets | 07:24 |
| rpittau | mkrai: considering that this is a new feature, I think expressing the need of the feature presenting one or more use cases can represent the problem description, as also suggested by dtantsur|afk | 07:27 |
| mkrai | rpittau: Ok thanks | 07:27 |
| rpittau | mkrai: np :) | 07:28 |
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| dtantsur | morning ironic | 08:01 |
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| dtantsur | mkrai: the question is why somebody needs this feature | 08:02 |
| dtantsur | mkrai: think about it as a user story "As an operator of ironic cloud, I would like to ... so that I ...." | 08:02 |
| mkrai | dtantsur: to improve the performance of their baremetal server | 08:03 |
| dtantsur | right, so describe this | 08:03 |
| mkrai | As an operator of ironic cloud, I would like to run different workloads on same server so that I have less TCO | 08:03 |
| mkrai | dtantsur: Ok I have rephrased it in the spec. Will post soon | 08:04 |
| dtantsur | just expand what TCO means in the text please :) | 08:04 |
| mkrai | Yes sure :) | 08:05 |
| mkrai | total cost of ownership | 08:05 |
| mkrai | dtantsur: Can we implement @deploy_step decorator in any interface? | 08:06 |
| dtantsur | mkrai: in most of them, I think? mgoddard? | 08:06 |
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| mgoddard | mkrai: https://docs.openstack.org/ironic/stein/admin/node-deployment.html#deploy-steps | 08:15 |
| mgoddard | mkrai: The Bare Metal service implements deployment by collecting a list of deploy steps to perform on a node from the Power, Deploy, Management, BIOS, and RAID interfaces of the driver assigned to the node | 08:15 |
| mkrai | mgoddard: Thank you, that's helpful | 08:17 |
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| jroll | \o | 13:29 |
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| dtantsur | morning jroll | 13:43 |
| dtantsur | happy Friday | 13:43 |
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| jroll | dtantsur: happy friday to you :) | 13:56 |
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| rpittau | arne_wiebalck: enjoy! :) | 15:35 |
| rpioso | Good morning | 15:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic-python-agent master: [POC][WIP] Fetch baremetal endpoint from mdns https://review.openstack.org/652017 | 15:42 |
| rpioso | dtantsur: I'm preparing to backport https://review.openstack.org/#/c/639698 | 15:42 |
| patchbot | patch 639698 - ironic - Set boot_mode in node properties during OOB Intros... (MERGED) - 10 patch sets | 15:42 |
| dtantsur | It seems to be a feature.. | 15:43 |
| rpioso | dtantsur: Recall that it addresses a user experience issue with UEFI boot mode. | 15:44 |
| dtantsur | It's not uncommon for a feature to address user experience issues.. I'd get green light from TheJulia and tonyb before approving. | 15:44 |
| dtantsur | list_bios_settings was in 1.3.0, wasn't it? | 15:45 |
| rpioso | dtantsur: And it brings idrac OOB inspection up to par with IPA. If we had known about the issue, we would have proposed it with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/545184/ | 15:47 |
| patchbot | patch 545184 - ironic - Fix iDRAC hardware type does not work with UEFI (MERGED) - 9 patch sets | 15:47 |
| * rpioso is digging into python-dracclient versions to confirm | 15:48 | |
| dtantsur | rpioso: I'm pretty okay with it, assuming that 1.3.0 is enough. But I'd still get opinions from TheJulia and tonyb. | 15:48 |
| rpioso | dtantsur: Confirmed -- https://github.com/openstack/python-dracclient/blob/1.3.0/dracclient/client.py#L147 | 15:49 |
| rpioso | dtantsur: +1 re: TheJulia and tonybs' opinions. | 15:49 |
| rpioso | dtantsur: The original change has a reno with a feature subsection, instead of a fixes subsection. Would that need to be How would that be dddressed, and, if so, how? | 15:51 |
| rpioso | *Would that need to be addressed, and, if so, how? | 15:51 |
| TheJulia | sorry, been in meeting after meeting | 15:55 |
| rpioso | TheJulia, tonyb: ^^^ regarding backport of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/639698 | 15:57 |
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| TheJulia | Truthfully I'm kind of on the fence. I see the reasoning and usefulness to operators running older versions, but it is much more of a feature addition... | 16:04 |
| TheJulia | I'd like to kind of hear Tony's perception, which would be good because he also has done past version work with various interfaces and it does seem more like "will this help" kind of question | 16:06 |
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| mnaser | o/ based on my initial reading, the answer is "no" to this, but I wanted to double check: am I able to provision baremetal nodes connected to two different 'tenant' ports (in a multi-tenant environment) | 16:09 |
| mnaser | i.e.: server has two ports, on deploy, you pick port 1 to go into neutron netA, and port2 to go to neutron netB | 16:10 |
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| dtantsur | mnaser: should be possible if you use "neutron" network interface (not just "flat") | 16:11 |
| dtantsur | but I have to go now, have a great weekend all | 16:12 |
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| mnaser | o/ take care and thank dtantsur|afk | 16:12 |
| mnaser | okay, so that seems pretty good to know. | 16:12 |
| dtantsur|afk | mnaser: you have to make each port with what (neutron) physical network it is connected to | 16:13 |
| dtantsur|afk | if the physical network is the same for both neutron networks (dunno if it's possible, cannot think on Friday evening), you won't be able to specify which port goes where, ironic will pick at random (?) | 16:14 |
| * dtantsur|afk hopes what he says makes any sense and wonders if hjensas is still around | 16:14 | |
| dtantsur|afk | okay, I'll go for real | 16:14 |
| rpioso | TheJulia: I understand how it can be considered a feature. Whether a change is a feature or bug fix can often go either way. Regarding that change, a baremetal node configured for UEFI boot mode fails to deploy if boot_mode capability props is not set to uefi. That seems very broken to me :) | 16:14 |
| mnaser | hehe :) | 16:14 |
| mnaser | right, the idea is to use networking-generic-switch to have neutron change vlans as it needs | 16:14 |
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| hjensas | dtantsur|afk: that sounds correct. :) | 16:15 |
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| rpioso | TheJulia: Please bear in mind that the fix to the idrac h/w type's UEFI boot mode bug -- https://review.openstack.org/#/c/545184/ -- was backported to all of the stable branches. | 16:18 |
| patchbot | patch 545184 - ironic - Fix iDRAC hardware type does not work with UEFI (MERGED) - 9 patch sets | 16:18 |
| mnaser | I don't think I care too much if port 1 ends up on netA and port 2 ends up on port B | 16:18 |
| mnaser | or vice versa | 16:18 |
| rpioso | TheJulia: At the time, we didn't know IPA in-band inspection can set boot_mode on the ironic node object. | 16:20 |
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| rpioso | TheJulia: Thank you for your consideration. | 16:22 |
| rpioso | TheJulia, tonyb: I look forward to your feedback. | 16:22 |
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| hjensas | mnaser: in that case I think the phsical_network property is'nt critical. | 16:30 |
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| jroll | mnaser: yeah, that's all possible, we did approximately that with onmetal | 16:42 |
| jroll | (which is where much of the initial multitenant networking came from) | 16:42 |
| mnaser | cool. the next thing I am going to try and figure out is just how far my control plane can be :) | 16:43 |
| mnaser | I know the pulling down of stuff can use 'direct' so that can help speed things up | 16:43 |
| jroll | heh | 16:43 |
| jroll | yeah, direct can help, especially with swift located closer | 16:43 |
| mnaser | but given that we have hardware all over the place, I rather not have multiple control planes all over the place too | 16:43 |
| jroll | if you're talking control plane over WAN... that's doable, but take care with IPMI traffic and such | 16:44 |
| mnaser | oh yeah, this is all over private links *but* that will obviously have higher latency | 16:44 |
| jroll | it's all http between control plane and the bare metal nodes, other than power control (which might be http) | 16:44 |
| jroll | cool | 16:44 |
| mnaser | well im thinking the only thing left is dhcp-y stuff | 16:45 |
| jroll | right | 16:45 |
| jroll | so I'd recommend relaying dhcp over the private link, and burning ipxe into your NIC if at all possible | 16:45 |
| jroll | or you could have a local host which handles some of the DHCP stuff for the deploy network, but then that needs to be managed outside of neutron | 16:46 |
| jroll | which is annoying, but possible | 16:46 |
| jroll | (with some caveats) | 16:46 |
| mnaser | yeah, DHCP relay is the thing I was thinking about, and maybe setup virtual media | 16:48 |
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| TheJulia | mnaser: we do also have proxy settings that can be defined on the node level I believe, but that is kind of more the secret magic under the hood kind of stuff | 17:37 |
| TheJulia | which might help wan usage if you don't want to have local swift clusters. Also support tuning the tempurl timeline _and_ re-using the tempurl for parallel requests... again this sort of stuff is more magic under the hood and not widely leveraged | 17:38 |
| mnaser | TheJulia: I mean for the most part, the machines are connected on 10G nics so they should be able to pull this stuff relatively well.. on the exception of a few regions which are very-far-away™ | 17:42 |
| mnaser | but nothing a CDN can't help with, I think | 17:42 |
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| TheJulia | mnaser: I guess it also depends on if your driving ironic directly or thinking of doing so via nova | 17:44 |
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| TheJulia | directly definitely gives you way more options | 17:44 |
| mnaser | TheJulia: that's a bit in the air, right now I'm trying to identify if there's a realistic possibility of being able to have ironic manage all baremetal both for imaging hypervisors *and* providing baremetal to tenants | 17:45 |
| TheJulia | Yeah, that should be viable if tenant users are going through nova | 17:46 |
| mnaser | aka: users can deploy baremetal machines in idle resources and/or I can use them to deploy new hypervisors | 17:46 |
| TheJulia | for your hypervisors you likely just want to directly request new ones on to your specific required networks | 17:46 |
| mnaser | TheJulia: right, I did have the idea of having a single ironic control plane across all computes, but I think that there's challenges around that when neutron is involved | 17:47 |
| mnaser | s/across all computes/across all regions/ | 17:47 |
| TheJulia | yeah.... | 17:47 |
| mnaser | given that it would be interacting with different neutrons depending on which region, so it can get tricky | 17:47 |
| TheJulia | :( | 17:47 |
| TheJulia | kind of sounds like the federated model of use in a sense because your wanting one pane of glass and hten you'd need locally aware neutrons | 17:48 |
| TheJulia | err | 17:48 |
| TheJulia | ironic conductors for those neutrons | 17:48 |
| mnaser | yeah. alternatively, I'm thinking 1 ironic per region, and the control plane would just have to be manually provisioned | 17:48 |
| mnaser | and then for the private clouds we deploy, their controllers would be deployed via ironic | 17:49 |
| TheJulia | Well, you could still automate the initial control plane to a degree | 17:49 |
| TheJulia | maybe a mechanism or two missing there to make it super easy | 17:50 |
| mnaser | yeah | 17:50 |
| mnaser | I guess the only 'meh' thing is that private clouds wouldn't have baremetal support (being able to leverage the pool of compute it lives on) | 17:50 |
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| TheJulia | That sounds more like a mechanic of your product offering, tbh | 17:51 |
| mnaser | I guess that's a fair point too :) | 17:51 |
| TheJulia | And really that is an issue of being able to lend resources | 17:52 |
| TheJulia | _and_ in those cases, you would likely benefit from charging for that lent server.... *whistles innocently* | 17:52 |
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| mnaser | in my ideal world: build a baremetal pool of compute, deploy machines on it, install openstack, ?? link that deployment to the underlying baremetal pool ??, now there's a cloud that can do both baremetal and VMs .. but yeah, might as well just have them use the 'root' baremetal pool | 17:53 |
| TheJulia | yeah | 17:58 |
| TheJulia | couple different ways of handling it I guess | 17:58 |
| TheJulia | if new mechanics are required for your use case, we don't bite either :) | 17:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ironic master: Split ibmc power/reboot classes https://review.openstack.org/650147 | 18:02 |
| TheJulia | sorry about ^ folks, I'm tired of seeing unit test failures on this stuff, so if it helps then \o/ | 18:03 |
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| TheJulia | greeen so far, although a post failure on one job :( | 18:32 |
| TheJulia | dns issue it seems | 18:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Julia Kreger proposed openstack/ironic master: Add a locking interface https://review.openstack.org/599191 | 18:45 |
| TheJulia | Just a rebase... | 18:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/bifrost stable/rocky: Pin proliantutils version https://review.openstack.org/648196 | 19:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/bifrost stable/pike: Pin proliantutils version https://review.openstack.org/648199 | 19:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/bifrost stable/stein: Pin proliantutils version https://review.openstack.org/651881 | 19:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/bifrost stable/queens: Pin proliantutils version https://review.openstack.org/648198 | 19:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/bifrost master: Improve iptables test info collection https://review.openstack.org/649946 | 19:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | raphael.glon proposed openstack/ironic master: Truncate node text fields when too long https://review.openstack.org/650307 | 19:55 |
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| TheJulia | Well http://logs.openstack.org/67/651367/1/check/ironic-grenade-dsvm-multinode-multitenant/2a8bffc/logs/subnode-2/ is new.... rabbit died. | 20:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ironic master: Make it possible to send sensor data for all nodes https://review.openstack.org/648728 | 21:25 |
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| tonyb | rpioso, TheJulia, dtantsur|afk: I'm a weak -1 on a backport. It does look very much like a feature rather than a bug. and one that IIUC there are several, not terrible, ways to work around. | 22:14 |
| tonyb | rpioso: TheJulia dtantsur|afk: On the other hand it's pretty small and looks very low risk. | 22:14 |
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| tonyb | rpioso: TheJulia dtantsur|afk: Personally I don't think it's huge benefit to operators but y'all know that aspect of the cimmunity better than I do. | 22:15 |
| tonyb | rpioso, TheJulia, dtantsur|afk: It seems like we're all kinda 'meh, maybe?' on backporting that change | 22:16 |
| * tonyb shrugs | 22:16 | |
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| openstackgerrit | raphael.glon proposed openstack/ironic master: Truncate node text fields when too long https://review.openstack.org/650307 | 22:32 |
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| TheJulia | tonyb: I think that sums it up nicely | 23:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Tony Breeds proposed openstack/ironic-python-agent master: Update minimum hardware version https://review.openstack.org/652170 | 23:37 |
| tonyb | TheJulia: thanks :) | 23:37 |
| tonyb | TheJulia: rather good for a Saturday mornign without coffee ;P | 23:37 |
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