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| dtantsur | rpioso: there is no single person, we own our CI as a team | 13:38 |
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| TheJulia | good morning everyone | 13:54 |
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| dtantsur | morning TheJulia, \o/ | 13:55 |
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| rpioso | Good morning | 14:21 |
| rpioso | dtantsur: I'm trying to obtain information about our CI for the entries being added to driverlog by https://review.opendev.org/#/c/660534/ | 14:23 |
| patchbot | patch 660534 - x/driverlog - Add openstack/ironic ipmi and redfish drivers - 3 patch sets | 14:23 |
| rpioso | dtantsur: What's our CI's "id" or username? | 14:24 |
| rpioso | dtantsur: And what are the success and failure patterns? | 14:24 |
| rpioso | dtantsur: Or how can I determine the answers to those questions on my own? | 14:25 |
| * rpioso examined a number of logs from a recent Zuul test run | 14:25 | |
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| dtantsur | rpioso: honestly, I don't know, but you may be able to find it out from the logs or ask on #openstack-infra | 14:38 |
| rpioso | dtantsur: I asked on #openstack-infra a couple of days back. Notta. | 14:39 |
| dtantsur | well, but they're supposed to know.. after all, ironic CI is not different from any other projects CI | 14:39 |
| rpioso | dtantsur: Can you recommend anyone in particular? | 14:40 |
| dtantsur | rpioso: try fungi maybe? | 14:41 |
| rpioso | dtantsur: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-infra/%23openstack-infra.2019-05-22.log.html | 14:41 |
| * rpioso hopes dtantsur can translate that | 14:42 | |
| fungi | rpioso: i asked you to let me know the name of the ci system and an example of where it's commenting on a review | 14:43 |
| rpioso | fungi: It's the ironic CI. | 14:43 |
| fungi | "the ironic CI" doesn't tell me anything. there are lots of ci systems reporting on ironic changes i'm guessing | 14:43 |
| fungi | who's ironic ci? | 14:43 |
| fungi | alternatively, can you get in touch with the folks running the ci system you're talking about? | 14:44 |
| rpioso | fungi: I think of it as the CI system that runs the verification and gate jobs against proposed changes to the openstack/ironic repo. | 14:45 |
| rpioso | fungi: The voting jobs. | 14:46 |
| fungi | maybe i'm confused. i'm assuming you're talking about a third-party ci system which is testing your driver. is this not the case? | 14:46 |
| rpioso | fungi: That's not the case. | 14:46 |
| fungi | you're asking about the opendev zuul ci system? | 14:47 |
| dtantsur | I think ^^^ | 14:47 |
| rpioso | fungi: I suppose I am. I'm not asking about any third party CI system. | 14:47 |
| fungi | oh! in that case, its username in gerrit is just "zuul" | 14:47 |
| rpioso | fungi: And what are the success and failure patterns? | 14:48 |
| TheJulia | gah, I look away for one meeting | 14:48 |
| fungi | the replies on your https://review.opendev.org/660534 review made it seem like you were asking about a third-party ci system. i think driverlog handles the upstream ci separately from third-party ci systems but honestly i don't know anything about driverlog other than it's something mirantis is maintaining as a part of stackalytics | 14:49 |
| patchbot | patch 660534 - x/driverlog - Add openstack/ironic ipmi and redfish drivers - 3 patch sets | 14:49 |
| rpioso | fungi: Lets's not dwell on driverlog. | 14:49 |
| fungi | it's not a community-run service, and i haven't really looked into their documentation | 14:49 |
| fungi | cool, i'm happy to ignore driverlog if you are ;) | 14:50 |
| TheJulia | Oh, then why are we trying to make it authoritive if it is not community run? | 14:50 |
| * TheJulia shuts up | 14:50 | |
| * TheJulia gets out the "crazy cat lady" neon sign and hangs it on the wall | 14:50 | |
| fungi | i think the osf web devs are copying some driver details from driverlog. i can ask | 14:50 |
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| rpioso | fungi: What are the opendev Zuul CI system success and failure patterns? | 14:51 |
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| fungi | i too think it's a bad idea for osf to lend any credence to whatever's maintained in driverlog, and i've let them know in the past | 14:51 |
| fungi | i think the idea was to have projects start documenting driver support matrices in their repositories so the marketplace could consume that instead | 14:51 |
| * rpioso smells red herring | 14:52 | |
| fungi | rpioso: that's an open-ended question without further context. it has job-specific success and failure patterns, and i don't know if the patterns in the zuul configuration are specifically what driverlog is asking for, but i'll get you a link to our config (also you can just see what it says on a success or failure when it comments on your changes, but here let me get that for you) | 14:53 |
| rpioso | fungi: Thank you! | 14:53 |
| TheJulia | fungi: that would be good to know if they are. I wonder if it makes sense to fork that repo in that case and adjust as necessary | 14:54 |
| fungi | rpioso: i assume it's asking in the context of the "check" pipeline, so that's configured here: https://opendev.org/openstack/project-config/src/branch/master/zuul.d/pipelines.yaml#L9 | 14:55 |
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| rpioso | fungi: Sounds like a reasonable assumption to me. And that config matches what the subject change has for the patterns \o/ | 14:56 |
| fungi | that's the success and failure messages for the pipeline itself, individual jobs have their own success and failure messages further into the detail of the review comment left by the ci system on each change | 14:56 |
| fungi | so if driverlog is tracking overall pipeline results and not individual job results then it's probably what you're looking for | 14:57 |
| rpioso | fungi: I expect driverlog is interested in the high level pipeline patterns. Details, details ... | 14:57 |
| rpioso | fungi: I'll leave that up to driverlog's core reviewers to ask or confirm :) | 14:58 |
| rpioso | fungi: Thanks, again :) | 14:58 |
| fungi | you're welcome. out of curiosity, where is the driverlog interface rendered these days? i thought it was https://www.stackalytics.com/driverlog/ but either i'm misremembernig or they've moved it | 14:59 |
| rpioso | fungi: I'm interested in driverlog because it's the source of the data displayed by the OpenStack Marketplace -- https://www.openstack.org/marketplace/drivers/ | 15:00 |
| fungi | aha, found it: https://www.stackalytics.com/report/driverlog | 15:00 |
| fungi | linked from the bottom of https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/DriverLog | 15:01 |
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| rpioso | fungi: Yes, that ^^^. However, all I get are spinners. | 15:01 |
| rpioso | fungi: Loading forever :( | 15:02 |
| fungi | now i'm trying to figure out what happened to the effort to standardize driver metadata in service repositories | 15:02 |
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| * rpioso wishes fungi success and a great weekend. | 15:05 | |
| fungi | thanks, you too! | 15:05 |
| rpioso | fungi: :) | 15:05 |
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| rpittau | bye all, have a great weekend! o/ | 15:45 |
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| dtantsur | TheJulia: enjoy! early next week we should probably consider doing some master releases | 15:48 |
| TheJulia | ++ | 15:48 |
| TheJulia | We'll discuss monday, I'll be on even though it is a holiday here | 15:48 |
| dtantsur | TheJulia: am I in position to forbid it? :) | 15:48 |
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| dtantsur | being on even though it's a holiday? | 15:49 |
| TheJulia | dtantsur: no :) | 15:50 |
| dtantsur | TheJulia: sigh, let me still try: I forbid it! you need rest, so don't skip any opportunity to rest. if you disobey, I'll complain to your cats! | 15:50 |
| TheJulia | eh, I'm just going to roll with it. It will be crazy where I'm at and all of the offices I need to go to with regards to my mom will be closed. Perfect day to have a morning breakfast at the nearby diner and hide while people drive back to NYC | 15:50 |
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| TheJulia | lol | 15:50 |
| TheJulia | <3 | 15:50 |
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| dtantsur | ++ | 15:51 |
| dtantsur | and I'm going to bail out, have a nice weekend! | 15:52 |
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| fungi | rpioso: just to follow up, after some memory refreshing in #openstack-tc, the model we would like to switch to is each service project incorporating something like https://opendev.org/openstack/cinder/src/branch/master/doc/source/reference/support-matrix.ini which the marketplace site could then consume instead of driverlog (and this puts documenting supported drivers squarely in the hands of the | 16:41 |
| fungi | respective core review teams for those services so they can keep them better maintained) | 16:41 |
| fungi | it's not clear if we ever got as far as documenting a standard for that, since we were still trying to work out what data teams would consider relevant... the idea being it should be useful in the context of the service's documentation as well, and the ability for the marketplace to consume that would then just be a useful side-effect | 16:43 |
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| rpioso | fungi: Thanks for following up. | 16:46 |
| rpioso | fungi: It's not clear to me how that model supports Marketplace manufacturer/vendor filtering. | 16:47 |
| rpioso | fungi: Also, what about links to driver documentation? | 16:47 |
| fungi | i expect it could just be extended to include keys for that info | 16:49 |
| rpioso | fungi: Regarding manufacturer/vendor, Dell EMC would like the data model to support multiple manufacturers/vendors per driver. Our third party CI tests community drivers, ipmi and redfish, and our idrac driver. | 16:49 |
| rpioso | fungi: So we envision the ipmi and redfish drivers being listed when OpenStack Community or Dell EMC is the filter. | 16:50 |
| fungi | all great feedback from the folks who have a vested interest in that data. i expect that if ironic added some metadata about their drivers which met your needs, the model being used by other service projects could be adjusted to at least match the expanded schema | 16:51 |
| rpioso | fungi: Cool :-) | 16:51 |
| rpioso | fungi: I'm glad to learn there's a plan. | 16:52 |
| fungi | i'm really jumping into this fresh after it being left fallow for a year or more, but it looks like in its current state the first priority would be for service projects to have metadata about their driver ecosystems, and then the second priority would be finding a common schema which can represent all the relevant data | 16:52 |
| fungi | i don't know that i'd call this a "plan" | 16:52 |
| rpioso | fungi: How about vision? | 16:53 |
| fungi | free/libre open source development is all about finding compromise after all ;) | 16:53 |
| * rpioso will be afk for a bit, but back later | 16:54 | |
| fungi | once a representative subset of teams are tracking some semblance of this metadata in their repositories, standardization is probably worthwhile to pursue as a cycle goal | 16:55 |
| rpioso | fungi: Sounds like a reasonable path forward to me :) | 16:56 |
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| rpioso | fungi: One other thing we'd like is to be able to specify which product models a driver supports. | 18:24 |
| fungi | that sounds useful indeed | 18:25 |
| rpioso | fungi: The Dell EMC 3d party CI tests changes against specific models. | 18:25 |
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| rpioso | fungi: And through our downstream integration testing, we can identify other models we feel comfortable stating work for a given release. | 18:28 |
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