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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ironic-inspector stable/train: Get details when listing ports upon inspection of active nodes https://review.opendev.org/697286 | 02:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ironic-inspector stable/train: Do not update/delete ports upon inspection of active nodes https://review.opendev.org/697287 | 02:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ironic-inspector master: Update docs on aarch64 PXE https://review.opendev.org/697221 | 02:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Kaifeng Wang proposed openstack/ironic-python-agent-builder master: Add words on building image for other architecture https://review.opendev.org/697222 | 02:25 |
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| cp- | https://pastebin.com/mL14MUxa | 05:05 |
| cp- | Should I be cleaning something ? | 05:06 |
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| iurygregory | good morning Ironic | 08:04 |
| arne_wiebalck | Good morning, iurygregory and ironic! | 08:10 |
| iurygregory | morning arne_wiebalck o/ | 08:10 |
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| rpittau | good morning ironic! o/ | 08:32 |
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| iurygregory | morning rpittau o/ | 08:47 |
| rpittau | hey iurygregory :) | 08:47 |
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| hjensas | good morning! | 08:58 |
| rpittau | hey hjensas :) | 08:58 |
| hjensas | rpittau: the removing six, this is breaking package build's in rdo. https://review.rdoproject.org/r/#/c/23945/ | 08:58 |
| hjensas | rpittau: I'm not sure we should fix it, or just tell RDO they need py3 now ... | 08:59 |
| rpittau | hjensas: oh cool.... | 08:59 |
| hjensas | rpittau: I guess similar errors are going to pop up in other packages as well. | 09:00 |
| rpittau | hjensas: the cut with py2 is kind of already happened, we blocked only sushy-tools at the moment | 09:01 |
| rpittau | we can always revert the change, but I think similar errors will start happening more frequently as soon as people stop supporting python 2 | 09:01 |
| hjensas | rpittau: yes, let's wait for dtantsur|afk and get his opinion as well? | 09:02 |
| rpittau | hjensas: absolutely | 09:02 |
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| rpittau | hjensas: fun fact, the python interpreter in the job is version 3.6.8 :) | 09:05 |
| hjensas | rpittau: it's for sure includes other packages as well - https://review.rdoproject.org/r/23928 is for ironic-python-agent | 09:06 |
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| rpittau | hjensas: we have 5 changes merged so far https://review.opendev.org/#/q/topic:goodbye-six+(status:open+OR+status:merged) | 09:13 |
| iurygregory | morning hjensas | 09:19 |
| hjensas | rpittau: ok, and more are coming in. From Ironic's perspective the changes are correct, the project need to move on. Let's wait for more people and discuss. | 09:19 |
| hjensas | morning iurygregory | 09:19 |
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| dtantsur | morning ironic | 10:06 |
| dtantsur | hjensas, rpittau, tell RDO they need python 3.. | 10:06 |
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| dtantsur | or, well, they know it | 10:07 |
| dtantsur | it just takes time due to delays on centos side | 10:07 |
| hjensas | dtantsur: :) it's a pita that centos delay. | 10:08 |
| dtantsur | well, yes | 10:08 |
| rpittau | dtantsur: lol | 10:22 |
| iury_course | morning dtantsur | 10:30 |
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| * etingof is wondering if switching ironic-standalone job on vmedia boot would harden the CI...? | 10:48 | |
| dtantsur | maybe? | 11:14 |
| dtantsur | currently it uses ipmi | 11:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic master: Correct power state handling for managed in-band inspection https://review.opendev.org/697451 | 11:49 |
| dtantsur | TheJulia: I hope this ^^ addresses your concerns | 11:50 |
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| iury_course | rpittau, you around? | 12:09 |
| rpittau | iury_course: I am | 12:09 |
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| TheJulia | good morning everyone | 13:12 |
| rpittau | Good morning TheJulia :) | 13:13 |
| TheJulia | iury_course: fyi, the file systems are case insensitive afaik. I noted that in my original huge long reply about finding the various bootloader options. | 13:14 |
| iury_course | TheJulia, ack | 13:14 |
| * TheJulia tries to wake up | 13:14 | |
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| openstackgerrit | Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic-lib master: mdns: default to listing on both V4 and V6 interfaces https://review.opendev.org/697467 | 13:22 |
| dtantsur | one missing bit in the mdns-v6 story ^^^ | 13:22 |
| dtantsur | morning TheJulia | 13:22 |
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| khansa | good morning TheJulia | 13:24 |
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| TheJulia | dtantsur: doh! | 13:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic-lib master: mdns: correctly handle loopback addresses https://review.opendev.org/697470 | 13:36 |
| dtantsur | and a corner case ^^ | 13:36 |
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| TheJulia | etingof: dtantsur: switching that job does make a lot of sense since, although part of the issue is also the default netboot action and ports reattaching in time.... Remastering new iso for ramdisks could at least be interesting although maybe a little more disk heavy. Likely need to absolutely make sure full disk wipe cleaning is disabled | 13:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Hamdy Khader proposed openstack/ironic master: Keep port's binding profile when unbinding in case of SmartNIC https://review.opendev.org/697471 | 13:38 |
| * TheJulia blinks | 13:38 | |
| etingof | TheJulia, those boot ISOs are not large... much less than a VM drive I think | 13:39 |
| etingof | good morning! | 13:40 |
| TheJulia | the downside of a global change is we really just also need to get most of those jobs off of the network boot default | 13:40 |
| TheJulia | since local updates of kernel/ramdisk can't update tftp/iso images managed by the conductor | 13:41 |
| etingof | is not conductor rebuilding isos out of the most current kernel/ramdisk? | 13:42 |
| * etingof is confused | 13:42 | |
| TheJulia | etingof: I'm thinking long term | 13:43 |
| TheJulia | because bare metal instances may be out there for a long time in a more BMaaS fleet | 13:44 |
| etingof | so to update BM instance we need to reboot the BM | 13:45 |
| etingof | unless it's local boot, new boot will always be with the latest kernel/ramdisk | 13:45 |
| TheJulia | far worse. | 13:45 |
| TheJulia | We need to recognize a change has occured with the remote files either in glance or otherwise, and then update the files managed by the conductor. | 13:46 |
| TheJulia | It is something we as a community have basically said "we hear you, but that is not very cloud like and then that may introduce additional breaking risk" | 13:46 |
| etingof | do you mean booting from remote volume where kernel/ramdisk are embedded once and forever? | 13:47 |
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| TheJulia | that is basically the way netboot works today, and it is bad for long running instances. | 13:48 |
| etingof | those remote files you mentioned - can you give me an example? | 13:49 |
| TheJulia | /httpboot/uuid/kernel | 13:49 |
| TheJulia | please don't focus on this, it is a path we shouldn't be focusing on | 13:50 |
| TheJulia | ideally everyone should local boot because that means the conductor can go away and the machines continues to run | 13:50 |
| etingof | but updates? I thought network booting ensures updates which is a feature, no? | 13:51 |
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| * etingof still needs to give a personal cdrom drive to each manager at sushy-tools | 13:55 | |
| TheJulia | That is not a feature and not a feature that brings value to BMaaS because we could end up desyncing from the operating system. The best case is for the OS to self manage. Ramdisk/network booting is useful for short lived instances though | 13:56 |
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| etingof | for sake of argument, I can think of use-cases where the entire OS (but not data) resides in the ramdisk... diskless belongs to that | 13:58 |
| TheJulia | and for that reason we built the ramdisk case. The operator needs to update that through rebuild | 13:59 |
| etingof | on other note, perhaps we can introduce boot ISO caching to conductor to save some seeks | 14:00 |
| TheJulia | would be better to just let operators figure that out since we're starting to see operators scale the number of nodes to conductors to huge numbers | 14:03 |
| dtantsur | I think we're only stuck with netboot because of cirros.. | 14:04 |
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| etingof | that might not always be easy for the operators to manage boot ISOs by hand for caching purposes... | 14:04 |
| TheJulia | yeah, the copy to emtpy disk from ramdisk stuff | 14:04 |
| TheJulia | I started working to try and kill that somewhere | 14:04 |
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| TheJulia | etingof: Lets wait for a concrete case from operators. Some BMCs out there do auto-disconnect the media, and ramdisks are supposed to be mapped into ram | 14:05 |
| * etingof hopes that virtual cdroms out there refuse to eject when the media is mounted | 14:07 | |
| dtantsur | etingof: better leave that hope :( | 14:07 |
| etingof | that worked wonderfully in my windows 95 | 14:07 |
| TheJulia | that was an os level lock | 14:08 |
| dtantsur | it depends on how it is implemented | 14:08 |
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| dtantsur | if it's through ACPI (?) to the OS - yes. | 14:08 |
| dtantsur | if it's just "oops, it's gone", then no | 14:08 |
| TheJulia | BMC's just "make it go away" | 14:08 |
| etingof | I am not entirely sure that virtual cdrom as a device is present to the OS before the media is inserted | 14:10 |
| dtantsur | We can safely assume this to be implementation-specific | 14:10 |
| TheJulia | in _many_ cases it is | 14:10 |
| TheJulia | ++ | 14:10 |
| TheJulia | very safely | 14:10 |
| etingof | yeah, it is not impossible with BMCs that bringing device on-line and inserting media is merged into one operation | 14:10 |
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| dtantsur | it makes sense with redfish-based implementations where a CD does not belong to a machine (doh!) | 14:11 |
| etingof | ramdisk mmaping is at risk then | 14:12 |
| etingof | in that light, ramdisk should not mmap on anything | 14:13 |
| dtantsur | well, it just means that the redfish implementation is insane :) | 14:13 |
| dtantsur | we can only wait and see how it actually works on hardware | 14:13 |
| iury_course | dtantsur, fyi https://review.opendev.org/697345 the function is not used anywhere yet, but I'll be using on the efi patch and will be used by software raid https://review.opendev.org/#/c/696156/2/ironic_python_agent/extensions/image.py , I pushed a separate patch so my patch wouldn't need to be using 696156 as base patch | 14:16 |
| patchbot | patch 697345 - ironic-python-agent - Search for efi partition - 1 patch set | 14:16 |
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| patchbot | patch 696156 - ironic-python-agent - Software RAID: make it bootable with uefi - 2 patch sets | 14:16 |
| dtantsur | iury_course: ehm. let's introduce the function where it's actually used? | 14:16 |
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| dtantsur | I'm afraid of us changing the course and leaving the function orphaned | 14:16 |
| iury_course | I'm doing a chain using the function patch to my efi patch (I'll be using) and https://review.opendev.org/#/c/696156/ will also use .-. | 14:17 |
| patchbot | patch 696156 - ironic-python-agent - Software RAID: make it bootable with uefi - 2 patch sets | 14:17 |
| iury_course | I wanted to avoid using a huge patch as base to create a chain | 14:18 |
| dtantsur | why not? | 14:18 |
| iury_course | so it wouldn't block the work on software raid / efi | 14:18 |
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| iury_course | TheJulia, thoughts on this? ^ | 14:19 |
| dtantsur | hmm, okay, I guess the commit message could be a bit clearer on this | 14:19 |
| TheJulia | on a conference call at the moment | 14:19 |
| iury_course | dtantsur, I can update the commit message =) | 14:19 |
| dtantsur | iury_course: don't worry | 14:19 |
| dtantsur | just keep in mind next time please | 14:19 |
| iury_course | I promise you the function won't be orphan =) , sure I will keep in mind | 14:20 |
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| dtantsur | etingof: do we have a fake System driver in sushy-tools? | 14:27 |
| dtantsur | I'm thinking of checking how much a conductor can handle | 14:27 |
| TheJulia | ++ | 14:30 |
| TheJulia | That should be something we think a lot about this cycle | 14:30 |
| dtantsur | right | 14:31 |
| TheJulia | If we can somehow end up with some jobs, it would be ++++++ good | 14:32 |
| TheJulia | I'd love a performance based gating job | 14:32 |
| TheJulia | but, noisy neighbors is always an issue | 14:32 |
| TheJulia | although, maybe we need a scale CI | 14:33 |
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| etingof | dtantsur, no, System is real | 14:57 |
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| dtantsur | okay, I may look into it at some point | 15:01 |
| ricolin | dtantsur, can you re-review? https://review.opendev.org/#/q/project:openstack/heat+topic:story/2006403 :) | 15:02 |
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| dtantsur | sure | 15:02 |
| ricolin | dtantsur, thanks! | 15:02 |
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| dtantsur | ricolin: I cannot +1 anything that has max_ironic_api_microversion | 15:03 |
| ricolin | dtantsur, that's fair | 15:03 |
| etingof | dtantsur, what kind of load test we could possibly do with a fake system i.e. not backed by anything alive? | 15:05 |
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| dtantsur | etingof: periodic tasks of the conductor, largely | 15:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/ironic-python-agent-builder master: Add words on building image for other architecture https://review.opendev.org/697222 | 15:06 |
| ricolin | besides that part I need more comments on BaremetalDeployment and BaremetalAllocation resource type | 15:06 |
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| etingof | dtantsur, yeah, we'd need to copy&paste fake something into a fake system then | 15:07 |
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| dtantsur | ricolin: I'm looking at them now | 15:08 |
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| etingof | dtantsur, or we could probably just employ static simulator... | 15:09 |
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| ricolin | dtantsur, thanks I will keep your comments on the microversion handling thing in my mind and see if I can get some discussion for that in heat team | 15:09 |
| dtantsur | etingof: probably yes | 15:10 |
| dtantsur | speaking of which, TheJulia, could you get back to https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2006910 when you have time again? | 15:11 |
| dtantsur | ricolin: this ^^ is re deployment resources, we're shaping a similar API in ironic | 15:11 |
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| TheJulia | okay off call | 15:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dmitry Tantsur proposed openstack/ironic master: docs: add a missing heading https://review.opendev.org/697499 | 15:23 |
| cdearborn | hey folks, we have had this as our vendor priority for some time, but haven't gotten any reviews in quite a while: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/671038/. Hoping people can break out some time to review this so we can move it forward. Tx in advance! | 15:23 |
| patchbot | patch 671038 - ironic - DRAC: Drives conversion from raid to jbod - 21 patch sets | 15:23 |
| dtantsur | cdearborn: +2 | 15:26 |
| TheJulia | Heh, dmitry +2, I -1'ed | 15:26 |
| TheJulia | woot | 15:26 |
| TheJulia | cdearborn: I'm good with a quick follow-up, my issue is only with the release note | 15:26 |
| TheJulia | as the agent can now do software raid, it would be preferable to indicate the "raid_interface" value required. | 15:27 |
| dtantsur | if it's a feature (i.e. won't be backported), we can probably follow-up | 15:27 |
| TheJulia | etingof: re sushy-oem-dell, flicker apparently commented about the group name looking weird :( | 15:28 |
| cdearborn | dtantsur, TheJulia, LOL! Tx for the quick reviews! Will get the reno updated. | 15:29 |
| TheJulia | cdearborn: thanks | 15:30 |
| TheJulia | cdearborn: and if there is some desire on dell's part to backport, that change does look super feature-ish | 15:30 |
| dtantsur | does or does not? | 15:31 |
| TheJulia | it does | 15:31 |
| TheJulia | to me at least, at a glance | 15:31 |
| TheJulia | with a reno indicating its a feature | 15:31 |
| cdearborn | TheJulia, dtantsur, it definitely is very boarder line. I'm good with calling it a feature. | 15:32 |
| dtantsur | if the story had any *why* it would be easier to judge | 15:32 |
| TheJulia | iury_course: smaller patches are always better, but yeah, just commit message clarity as dmitry suggested should help. Just start keeping a running list somewhere so we don't miss anything | 15:32 |
| cdearborn | dtantsur, will update the story to clarify | 15:32 |
| TheJulia | why is always important. It makes sense to do to break a raid set, but yeah | 15:33 |
| iury_course | TheJulia, sure | 15:33 |
| dtantsur | TheJulia: I mean, it can be called a bug fix if the node is not usable after delete_configuration without creating a new configuration | 15:33 |
| TheJulia | undo the things you've done because a different major configuration could be requsted in the future | 15:33 |
| TheJulia | dtantsur: very very very true | 15:33 |
| TheJulia | cdearborn: ^^^ | 15:33 |
| * TheJulia feels like we're on the same page | 15:34 | |
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| etingof | TheJulia, re sushy-oem-dell - copy&paste programming always backfires | 15:45 |
| TheJulia | woot | 15:46 |
| dtantsur | always | 15:46 |
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| cdearborn | TheJulia, dtantsur: Just added detail to https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2006234 to further clarify what https://review.opendev.org/#/c/679093/ is intended to do if you're interested | 15:53 |
| patchbot | patch 679093 - ironic - DRAC: Drives conversion from JBOD to RAID (MERGED) - 25 patch sets | 15:53 |
| TheJulia | thanks! | 15:53 |
| cdearborn | TheJulia: Sure thing! | 15:53 |
| dtantsur | cdearborn: and now it actually looks like a bug fix | 15:54 |
| TheJulia | Definitely | 15:55 |
| TheJulia | like... of the we should backport kind | 15:55 |
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| cdearborn | dtantsur, TheJulia: yeah, it's one of those boarder line things. The end user would definitely perceive it as a bug. | 15:56 |
| dtantsur | cdearborn: I'd recommend reframing as a bug fix and backporting, unless it requires a newer version of dracclient | 15:57 |
| TheJulia | I concur, the user's perception is key in that | 15:58 |
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| TheJulia | bfournie: thanks! | 16:01 |
| bfournie | \o/ | 16:01 |
| dtantsur | :) | 16:02 |
| cdearborn | dtantsur, TheJulia: ok, sounds good. It certainly would be nice to have it in prior releases. Will take a look. The reno in the JBOD to RAID patch, which already merged lists it as a feature: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/679093/. This patch is only in master. Do you think we should do a follow-on patch to that to change the reno to indicate bug? | 16:02 |
| patchbot | patch 679093 - ironic - DRAC: Drives conversion from JBOD to RAID (MERGED) - 25 patch sets | 16:02 |
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| dtantsur | ouch, so it requires more code? | 16:03 |
| cdearborn | well, there are 2 parts: automatically convert drives from JBOD to RAID during RAID creation (this part merged already), and automatically convert drives from RAID to JBOD during RAID deletion | 16:04 |
| dtantsur | what happens if the first part is not present? RAID will fail? | 16:04 |
| cdearborn | it depends on what mode the disks are in that will be included in the virtual disk. if they're all in RAID mode, then it will work. if 1 or more are in JBOD mode, then it will fail | 16:05 |
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| dtantsur | ugh | 16:05 |
| dtantsur | yeah, it looks like the older patch was also a bug fix | 16:06 |
| dtantsur | cdearborn: I need to note that neither the commit message nor the story provided enough information for us to realize that :-/ | 16:06 |
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| dtantsur | given that it needs a new version of dracclient, I guess we cannot backport it | 16:07 |
| dtantsur | is it at least documented? | 16:08 |
| cdearborn | dtantsur: y, I agree. Will try to do a better job with that in the future | 16:08 |
| cdearborn | dtantsur: I thought we had included that in the docs patch we did for Train, but it looks like we missed it | 16:13 |
| dtantsur | cdearborn: okay, let's at least make this requirement clear in the docs (can be train-only + further backports) | 16:14 |
| cdearborn | dtantsur, sounds good. will fix. will also ask Rachit to provide follow on patch to reno for JBOD to RAID conversion patch making it a bug fix | 16:16 |
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| TheJulia | thanks cdearborn | 16:34 |
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| gudrutis | arne_wiebalck: o/ | 17:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Ilya Etingof proposed x/sushy-oem-idrac master: Summon Zuul https://review.opendev.org/697527 | 17:05 |
| TheJulia | etingof: best patch title ever. | 17:09 |
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| dtantsur | lol | 17:18 |
| dtantsur | etingof: don't forget to populate .gitreview if it wasn't done for you | 17:19 |
| * etingof does not have +2 powers over that oem beast | 17:19 | |
| etingof | yeah | 17:19 |
| dtantsur | etingof: you need to ask infra to bootstrap the core team | 17:19 |
| dtantsur | with your humble person :) | 17:19 |
| dtantsur | on this positive note, I wish you good night | 17:19 |
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| etingof | I thought that's part of the work flow... | 17:19 |
| dtantsur|afk | nope | 17:20 |
| dtantsur|afk | at least when I last did it, it was an explicit step | 17:20 |
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| etingof | whom should I ping exactly? | 17:20 |
| clarkb | its explicit because there isn't a good way for our automation to know who to seed that group with. Though there are plans to change that in the hopefully near future | 17:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Ilya Etingof proposed x/sushy-oem-idrac master: Add basic CI jobs and .gitreview https://review.opendev.org/697529 | 17:22 |
| clarkb | etingof: I've updated the groups | 17:23 |
| clarkb | you should be able to self manage them now | 17:24 |
| etingof | clarkb, ah, thanks! I already went to infra | 17:24 |
| clarkb | where? I didn't see the request? in any case its done | 17:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged x/sushy-oem-idrac master: Summon Zuul https://review.opendev.org/697527 | 17:25 |
| etingof | clarkb, I did not hit Enter yet ;) | 17:25 |
| etingof | it took me a while to ask promptly | 17:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Julia Kreger proposed openstack/ironic master: WIP: pre-shared agent token https://review.opendev.org/692609 | 22:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Julia Kreger proposed openstack/ironic master: WIP: Enable agent_token for virtual media boot https://review.opendev.org/697584 | 22:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Julia Kreger proposed openstack/ironic master: WIP: Send our token back to the agent https://review.opendev.org/697585 | 22:39 |
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