| rpittau | good morning ironic! o/ | 06:24 |
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| rpittau | Happy Friday! | 06:24 |
| *** jpodivin_ is now known as jpodivin | 06:41 | |
| janders | hey rpittau o/ | 07:05 |
| janders | TGIF | 07:05 |
| rpittau | hey janders :) | 07:08 |
| dtantsur | TheJulia, JayF, "The ironic stuff is some of the best services within OpenStack" mmm, hard to disagree :) | 09:56 |
| dtantsur | TheJulia: I wonder what makes people fork Ironic to add a driver instead of just having a 3rd party driver. Lack of stable driver API? | 09:57 |
| opendevreview | Harald Jensås proposed openstack/ironic master: Add port/portgroup list conductor groups filter https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/862292 | 11:51 |
| opendevreview | Verification of a change to openstack/ironic master failed: Cross test sushy with python 3.10 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/862140 | 12:31 |
| opendevreview | Jacob Anders proposed openstack/sushy master: Improve resiliency of eTag handling https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/sushy/+/856123 | 12:32 |
| janders | see you next week Ironic | 12:37 |
| janders | have a great weekend everyone o/ | 12:37 |
| TheJulia | dtantsur: It is amusing to me that your brain jumps there | 12:42 |
| TheJulia | dtantsur: from what I've found when I've evaluated forks I've stumbled upon, it has mainly been core features/funcitonality or carrying breaking changes to do that | 12:43 |
| TheJulia | I did also find someone using github once to develop a feature before submitting it upstream to us. That was... interesting. | 12:51 |
| TheJulia | well, driver feature at that | 12:52 |
| TheJulia | Anyhow, good morning everyone! | 13:01 |
| dtantsur | TheJulia: from a quick glance, I got an impression that their fork was mostly about a new driver? | 13:03 |
| TheJulia | they could have added one at some point, but I know they actually wanted breaking api changes to our rest api too | 13:04 |
| TheJulia | which is where things didn't go very well, and they didn't really want to stay involved for therequisite discussion | 13:04 |
| TheJulia | I remember they also talked about doing snapshotty things | 13:05 |
| TheJulia | oh wow | 13:07 |
| TheJulia | that is a client to their *internal* bmaas API | 13:07 |
| TheJulia | their original in house developed thing from ages ago | 13:07 |
| * TheJulia wonders if they *actually* want that on a public github | 13:08 | |
| * TheJulia should find whats his names email address | 13:08 | |
| dtantsur | yeah, that's how I understood it too | 13:09 |
| TheJulia | that entirely lacks the other API patch they wanted us to take | 13:10 |
| TheJulia | which would add outright request filtering based upon neutron lookups for every single request | 13:10 |
| TheJulia | I read the commit message yesterday and thought it was that api filtering | 13:10 |
| dtantsur | aaahhh that. I remember it but I also don't see it in this repo. | 13:11 |
| dtantsur | maybe they implemented it somehow else? | 13:11 |
| TheJulia | likely | 13:12 |
| dtantsur | I could imagine something similar to the inspector's iptables filter | 13:12 |
| TheJulia | they told me they were running it in impression | 13:12 |
| TheJulia | err | 13:12 |
| TheJulia | impression in production | 13:12 |
| * TheJulia needs more coffee | 13:12 | |
| * TheJulia is starting to think the internet wants her to take a day off | 13:53 | |
| rpittau | bye everyone, have a great weekend! o/ | 14:18 |
| TheJulia | o/ | 14:23 |
| dtantsur | JayF, TheJulia, FYI in the SDK room they're discussing potential OS-wide alternatives to storyboard/lp | 14:31 |
| dtantsur | will let you know | 14:31 |
| dtantsur | (I think the outcome will still be lp) | 14:31 |
| JayF | if nobody there already knows; nova placement chose to move to lp as well | 14:33 |
| JayF | so I think there's already a lot of mo' back in that direction | 14:33 |
| dtantsur | it was mentioned | 14:33 |
| dtantsur | the question was: we have gitea, can we enable issues there | 14:33 |
| dtantsur | the answer so far is: we can, but right now it's read-only and does not have authentication. a lot of work. | 14:33 |
| JayF | and it's yet another way for openstack to be weird vs other open source projects | 14:34 |
| JayF | no thanks :) | 14:34 |
| JayF | at least lp is used by some amount of other projects | 14:34 |
| dtantsur | well, so is launchpad | 14:34 |
| dtantsur | mmmm... very few, mostly maginal | 14:34 |
| dtantsur | gitea is a github clone, could be a huge familiarity improvement | 14:34 |
| JayF | Github issues are painful when used as a primary bugtracker; part of why I'd be skeptical of that kind of move is b/c it's hard to imagine gitea would be better | 14:35 |
| TheJulia | I concur with JayF, but this needs to become a wider discussion | 14:43 |
| TheJulia | In terms of productivity, I expect our productivity to crash out for like a month in March. :) | 14:43 |
| JayF | I am surprised it would be anything but obvious; we already have some projects still on LP; we have history/knowledge to use LP | 14:43 |
| TheJulia | KSP2's release date for early access has been announced | 14:43 |
| TheJulia | JayF: I think there are many factors, and the only way we're going to ever reach consensus is to share context as to why not, fwiw. | 14:44 |
| JayF | Fair; but with my TC hat on; I'd be loathe to dictate any answer to any given team | 14:45 |
| TheJulia | I think that is going to be the case for everyone, but it is not just OpenStack. Zuul, StarlingX, OpenDev, and others use the same storyboard instance. I honestly think it is more of a "how can we solve this across communities" so we're pooling logic/path forward | 14:46 |
| TheJulia | but yeah, individual projects may make other decisions | 14:46 |
| dtantsur | We cannot dictate, but we can say "hey, our users are suffering" | 14:47 |
| TheJulia | ++ | 14:47 |
| TheJulia | Exactly, and that changes the dynamic dramatically | 14:47 |
| TheJulia | eek, ksp2's early access release date just got announced | 14:58 |
| * JayF does not enjoy KSP | 15:00 | |
| dtantsur | I'm staying away from it on purpose. I have too many hobbies already :) | 15:02 |
| TheJulia | I had thousands of hours in KSP... so... I'm doomed | 15:03 |
| JayF | I play a lot of games; just not ksp :D | 15:03 |
| * TheJulia imagines JayF telling me I'm doomed | 15:03 | |
| JayF | let me put it this way | 15:03 |
| JayF | if work productivity dropped when video games were released | 15:03 |
| JayF | I'd have like, negative productivity | 15:03 |
| JayF | because I like so many of 'em | 15:03 |
| TheJulia | heh | 15:03 |
| dtantsur | also the reason I don't play video games :) | 15:04 |
| TheJulia | I worked at a place which actually had a realistic "lost productivity" count for the few months after World of Warcraft dropped | 15:04 |
| JayF | I worked at a place with a guy who would take all his PTO immediately after releases of new content | 15:04 |
| TheJulia | wow | 15:04 |
| JayF | b/c he was on one of those like, semi-pro wow teams | 15:04 |
| JayF | that speedruns the new content | 15:04 |
| TheJulia | wow | 15:06 |
| TheJulia | Well, whatever floats one's boat | 15:07 |
| * TheJulia goes back to trying to figure out words | 15:11 | |
| opendevreview | Julia Kreger proposed openstack/ironic-specs master: Add a shard key https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic-specs/+/861803 | 17:19 |
| TheJulia | JayF: johnthetubaguy: ^ It is still a bit rough, but I think it is at an appropriate high level where implementation could also likely start, that is if the high level thoughts align. Obviously, we would need a similar exercise on the nova side, but this one is heavy on our side because we can most efficiently handle upfront stamping to a shard and whatnot... and it would need to be done in the upgrade process in advance | 17:28 |
| TheJulia | anyway. | 17:28 |
| dtantsur | have a great weekend folks o/ | 17:29 |
| JayF | o/ | 17:29 |
| TheJulia | o/ | 17:39 |
| TheJulia | Likely calling it a week soon, as well. | 17:40 |
| TheJulia | Evil 5:30 mornings are evil | 17:40 |
| opendevreview | Ebbex proposed openstack/bifrost master: Install firewall to venv (redhat) https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/bifrost/+/861538 | 17:57 |
| opendevreview | Ebbex proposed openstack/bifrost master: Move kpartx to dib_host_required_packages https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/bifrost/+/861539 | 17:57 |
| opendevreview | Ebbex proposed openstack/bifrost master: Move dpkg to dib_host_required_packages (suse) https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/bifrost/+/861540 | 17:57 |
| opendevreview | Ebbex proposed openstack/bifrost master: Remove netstat line (suse) https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/bifrost/+/861541 | 17:57 |
| opendevreview | Ebbex proposed openstack/bifrost master: Switching netstat to ss in report https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/bifrost/+/861542 | 17:57 |
| opendevreview | Ebbex proposed openstack/bifrost master: efi_distro corresponds to distribution for opensuse https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/bifrost/+/861543 | 17:57 |
| opendevreview | Ebbex proposed openstack/bifrost master: Remove unused iniparse python system dependency https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/bifrost/+/862391 | 17:57 |
| opendevreview | Ebbex proposed openstack/bifrost master: Update to python3 packages (suse) https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/bifrost/+/862392 | 17:57 |
| ebbex | You fix one small detail in the chain, and it all blows up. Apologies for the spam. | 18:05 |
| JayF | It's not spam when you're doing good work; thanks for the patches | 18:06 |
| JayF | I can take a look next week; many of us are extra busy this week with PTG | 18:06 |
| ebbex | :) | 18:11 |
| TheJulia | or reached the end of the PTG and our brains have melted compeltely | 18:31 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/metalsmith stable/train: Ensure tox.ini is ASCII https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/metalsmith/+/829837 | 19:03 |
| iurygregory | good morning ironic, happy friday | 19:41 |
| iurygregory | after 21hrs my internet is back.. | 19:41 |
| TheJulia | iurygregory: \o/ | 21:22 |
| iurygregory | \o/ | 22:07 |
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