| opendevreview | Michal Nasiadka proposed openstack/bifrost master: Add Debian 13 (Trixie) support https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/bifrost/+/979651 | 05:56 |
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| opendevreview | Michal Nasiadka proposed openstack/bifrost master: Add Debian 13 (Trixie) support https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/bifrost/+/979651 | 06:02 |
| opendevreview | Michal Nasiadka proposed openstack/bifrost master: [WIP] Experimental support for ARM64 hosts on Debian https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/bifrost/+/920057 | 06:02 |
| opendevreview | Michal Nasiadka proposed openstack/bifrost master: [WIP] Experimental support for ARM64 hosts on Debian https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/bifrost/+/920057 | 06:03 |
| opendevreview | Michal Nasiadka proposed openstack/bifrost master: [WIP] Experimental support for ARM64 hosts on Debian https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/bifrost/+/920057 | 06:06 |
| opendevreview | Michal Nasiadka proposed openstack/bifrost master: [WIP] Experimental support for ARM64 hosts on Debian https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/bifrost/+/920057 | 06:07 |
| opendevreview | Michal Nasiadka proposed openstack/bifrost master: [WIP] Experimental support for ARM64 hosts on Debian https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/bifrost/+/920057 | 06:08 |
| opendevreview | Michal Nasiadka proposed openstack/bifrost master: [WIP] Experimental support for ARM64 hosts on Debian https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/bifrost/+/920057 | 06:08 |
| opendevreview | Michal Nasiadka proposed openstack/bifrost master: [WIP] Experimental support for ARM64 hosts on Debian https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/bifrost/+/920057 | 06:09 |
| opendevreview | Michal Nasiadka proposed openstack/bifrost master: [WIP] Experimental support for ARM64 hosts on Debian https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/bifrost/+/920057 | 06:09 |
| opendevreview | Michal Nasiadka proposed openstack/bifrost master: [WIP] Experimental support for ARM64 hosts on Debian https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/bifrost/+/920057 | 06:09 |
| opendevreview | Michal Nasiadka proposed openstack/bifrost master: Add Debian 13 (Trixie) support https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/bifrost/+/979651 | 11:27 |
| opendevreview | Michal Nasiadka proposed openstack/bifrost master: Add Debian 13 (Trixie) support https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/bifrost/+/979651 | 11:27 |
| dtantsur | TheJulia: hey, quick q about OCI: is pointing at the digest of a *layer*, not the root manifest, supposed to work? | 11:54 |
| TheJulia | dtantsur: I think it would depend on the data in the oci registry for the layer. The intended form and entry is a tag or digest of a base line layer or singluar file object. Technically a layer is a singlar file as well if I'm recalling the structural model correctly | 12:19 |
| dtantsur | It looks like right now Ironic is consistent with ORAS CLI in not accepting layers, at least not the ones from Quay | 12:21 |
| TheJulia | why would you want a single layer for a container? | 12:23 |
| * TheJulia begins sipping coffeeeee | 12:23 | |
| dtantsur | It's about artifacts, not containers. And the answer to question "why" is somebody just tried it downstream and complained that the feature does not work :) | 12:25 |
| TheJulia | exactly, container layers themselves are not technically file artifacts even if under the hood they are really just tgz files with extended attributes | 12:26 |
| dtantsur | On an unrelated note, "c" in "IPA inventory" is for "consistency" :-/ | 12:28 |
| TheJulia | I feel like more coffee is needed to understand that | 12:28 |
| dtantsur | We're arguing naming downstream, and I'm looking for prior art in the inventory | 12:29 |
| dtantsur | Where we now have 2 instances of "vendor" and 1 of "manufacturer", as well as 1 instance of "serial" and 1 of "serial_number" | 12:29 |
| dtantsur | We also have "product", "product_name" and "model" | 12:30 |
| TheJulia | And vendors themmselves who are often inconsistent | 12:30 |
| dtantsur | Surely. Does not excuse us though.. | 12:30 |
| TheJulia | I'm amazingly divorced from that portion of code | 12:32 |
| dtantsur | It may be helpful for your mental health :) | 12:33 |
| TheJulia | health over all | 12:33 |
| TheJulia | seriously though, vendor can be programmed to be different from manufacturer | 12:34 |
| TheJulia | For example, nvidia is a great example of this, they are the vendor in some cases for items, but one of three OEM vendors. | 12:35 |
| TheJulia | At one time when we were musing with the idea of branded solutions, our employer would have been the vendor, but oem would have been independently stamped | 12:35 |
| TheJulia | serial/serial_number, yeeeah. | 12:35 |
| TheJulia | lots of networking discussion and cross-project discussion today | 12:39 |
| dtantsur | I will be sooooo lost :D | 12:46 |
| TheJulia | c'est la vie ? | 12:49 |
| TheJulia | PTG Time! | 13:03 |
| JayF | PTG time! cc cid clif :D | 13:03 |
| * TheJulia starts handing out virtual coffee | 13:06 | |
| cid | On my way... | 13:06 |
| cid | Cross session w/Nova in 13mins @ https://meetpad.opendev.org/nova-ptg-2026.2 | 13:47 |
| dtantsur | I'll rejoin for Ironic topics afterwards | 13:54 |
| TheJulia | https://meetpad.opendev.org/nova-2026.2-ptg is the correct link | 13:56 |
| stephenfin | Could I get another +2 on https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/985421 when you've time during/after today's PTG sessions, please and thanks | 13:56 |
| cid | TheJulia, tks. | 14:03 |
| TheJulia | seems like we're likely going to need to jump to the neutron cross-project | 14:55 |
| dtantsur | so, back to Ironic topics in 1 hour? | 14:58 |
| TheJulia | Looks like it | 15:00 |
| cid | Ironic w/ Neutron in the Ironic room | 15:03 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/ironic master: objects: Prepare for oslo.versionedobjects 3.10.0 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/985421 | 15:51 |
| dtantsur | btw, our schedule is overflowing for today: we have 1 hour left and 100 minutes of planned topics | 15:53 |
| opendevreview | Jay Faulkner proposed openstack/ironic-specs master: WIP: Ironic talking to placement https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic-specs/+/985708 | 15:57 |
| TheJulia | cardoe: tried to capture more notes regarding the existing evpn/port scheduling topic your raised during the neutron session | 16:08 |
| TheJulia | I think at least one of those topics set for 25 minutes should only take 5-ish minutes | 16:08 |
| cardoe | Thank you! | 16:08 |
| TheJulia | its super high leve | 16:08 |
| TheJulia | level, but I think the scheduling is more about upfront host selection, the storage physnet (i hate I'm using physnet, but thats sort of the physical modeling mental model) is kind of along those lines | 16:09 |
| cardoe | My son has a band trip and drop off for his stuff was this prior hour. So I was juggling many things. | 16:09 |
| TheJulia | so $words and $challenges | 16:09 |
| * JayF has been working on getting local inference working to get off the claude roller coaster | 17:02 | |
| JayF | it's such a weird milestone, but I finally have a fully working local harness with qwen3 smart enough to search the web and summarize Ironic's release notes for 2026.2 | 17:02 |
| -opendevstatus- NOTICE: The wiki.openstack.org service will be offline for a few minutes while we perform a database upgrade | 18:07 | |
| * TheJulia requests one freshly steamed brain | 18:08 | |
| TheJulia | so, question of the day which is unrelated to ironic: why do my new cameras and old $different_and_now_evil_vendor's cameras identify cats as people, but dogs as pets? | 18:15 |
| cardoe | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/985117 is an important one-ish for me | 18:40 |
| cardoe | So that I don't have to smack people. | 18:40 |
| cardoe | Save people from a hand print! | 18:41 |
| * TheJulia builds a room around cardoe with a HandKey II for cardoe to exit it. | 18:43 | |
| * TheJulia wonders if $employer_from_the_early_2000s ever removed her from the handkeys as an admin | 18:44 | |
| rm_work[m] | oh hey, is there official guidance now on AI-assisted commits, like do we need to flag them or something | 19:28 |
| rm_work[m] | oh wait is it PTG week>? | 19:28 |
| JayF | yes and yes | 19:30 |
| JayF | openinfra ai policy is on the foundation website, if you search 'openinfra ai policy' you can find it | 19:30 |
| JayF | please read it, but tl;dr label LLM inference usage with "Assisted-by: mySuperCoder with BobModel37" or "Generated-by: aClanker with BrainPointOh" | 19:31 |
| JayF | and please for the love of everything good in the world do not push code you couldn't explain without having your robot friend alongside :D | 19:31 |
| rm_work[m] | lol | 19:34 |
| rm_work[m] | don't worry, keeping all of that garbage internal | 19:35 |
| JayF | that last line is 100% jay and 0% policy lol | 19:35 |
| JayF | LLMs are great at being a force multiplier. | 19:35 |
| JayF | They don't check if they are multiplying the good or the bad :D | 19:36 |
| opendevreview | Verification of a change to openstack/ironic master failed: fix: bios.apply_configuration needs to validate before starting https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/985117 | 19:46 |
| opendevreview | Julia Kreger proposed openstack/networking-generic-switch master: Add opt-in MTU management for switch ports https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/networking-generic-switch/+/984832 | 20:24 |
| opendevreview | Verification of a change to openstack/ironic master failed: fix: bios.apply_configuration needs to validate before starting https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/985117 | 20:34 |
| TheJulia | hjensas, stevebaker[m], cardoe: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/985732 | 21:07 |
| TheJulia | Likely needs to be in neutronlib, but we'll see what they say | 21:08 |
| TheJulia | JayF: I, for one, am deeply concerned if Clanker's from the star wars universe are appearing ;) | 21:28 |
| opendevreview | Verification of a change to openstack/ironic master failed: fix: bios.apply_configuration needs to validate before starting https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/985117 | 22:59 |
| * cardoe side eyes the test infra | 23:13 | |
| TheJulia | .... should we bring a corgi to yield ? | 23:13 |
| opendevreview | Verification of a change to openstack/ironic master failed: fix: bios.apply_configuration needs to validate before starting https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/985117 | 23:18 |
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