| opendevreview | Adam McArthur proposed openstack/ironic-python-agent master: Add pyright type checking https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic-python-agent/+/958333 | 00:13 |
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| opendevreview | Adam McArthur proposed openstack/ironic master: api: Add schema for chassis API https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/999508 | 00:42 |
| opendevreview | Adam McArthur proposed openstack/ironic master: api: Add schema for deploy templates API https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/999509 | 00:42 |
| opendevreview | Adam McArthur proposed openstack/ironic master: api: Add schema for drivers API https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/999510 | 00:46 |
| opendevreview | Adam McArthur proposed openstack/ironic master: api: Add schema for drivers API https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/999510 | 00:55 |
| opendevreview | Adam McArthur proposed openstack/ironic master: api: Add schema for drivers API https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/999510 | 00:57 |
| opendevreview | Adam McArthur proposed openstack/ironic-python-agent master: Add pyright type checking https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic-python-agent/+/958333 | 01:02 |
| opendevreview | Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/virtualbmc master: bindep: Remove stale marker https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/virtualbmc/+/999517 | 02:05 |
| opendevreview | Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/ironic master: bindep: Remove stale markers https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/999518 | 02:07 |
| opendevreview | Takashi Kajinami proposed openstack/ironic-python-agent master: bindep: Remove stale marker https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic-python-agent/+/999533 | 03:10 |
| opendevreview | Adam McArthur proposed openstack/ironic-python-agent master: Add pyright type checking https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic-python-agent/+/958333 | 03:34 |
| opendevreview | Adam McArthur proposed openstack/ironic master: api: Add schema for deploy templates API https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/999509 | 03:44 |
| opendevreview | Adam McArthur proposed openstack/ironic master: api: Add schema for drivers API https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/999510 | 03:44 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/ironic master: Register oslo.service opts in prepare_command for spawn workers https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/993062 | 10:48 |
| iurygregory | good morning ironic | 11:44 |
| opendevreview | Jacob Anders proposed openstack/ironic master: Refactor firmware update SimpleUpdate submission and error dispatch https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/999230 | 12:42 |
| opendevreview | Jacob Anders proposed openstack/ironic master: Implement batched non-BMC firmware update orchestration https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/999231 | 12:42 |
| opendevreview | Jacob Anders proposed openstack/ironic master: Add allow_grouping_reboots argument to firmware.update step https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/998417 | 12:42 |
| opendevreview | Jacob Anders proposed openstack/ironic master: Document batched firmware updates and add release note https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/999232 | 12:42 |
| opendevreview | Jacob Anders proposed openstack/ironic master: Add allow_grouping_reboots argument to firmware.update step https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/998417 | 13:05 |
| opendevreview | Jacob Anders proposed openstack/ironic master: Document batched firmware updates and add release note https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/999232 | 13:05 |
| TheJulia | so off-hand, now would folks feel about image signature verification ? | 13:30 |
| TheJulia | And speaking of, does anyone have an understanding of what is going on in the scope of cursive being pulled into openstack? | 13:46 |
| JayF | image signing is only cool if the implementation is 10/10 | 14:05 |
| JayF | https://opendev.org/openstack/cursive TIL | 14:05 |
| TheJulia | yeah, concur on 10/10 :) | 14:15 |
| dtantsur | TheJulia: good morning! not sure it's an answerable question, but are there switch vendors that are particularly popular in the context of our features? | 14:16 |
| TheJulia | dtantsur: Eh... that is a hard question to answer because you have the existing vendor gravity combined with specific vendor value added features: see rapid spanning tree+ | 14:17 |
| dtantsur | TheJulia: I guess I should ask the real question: if an opportunity appears to buy 1-2 switches for our team, what should we get? | 14:18 |
| TheJulia | junos and/or sonic, avoid Dell OS10 | 14:19 |
| TheJulia | two reasons w/r/t OS10 -> there is an internal limit on the number of actually usable vlans, plus if you ever need to do anything vxlan-ey, it is modeled on manual intermediary network configuration of a vn-id | 14:35 |
| cardoe | I'll stick with my Ciscos :) | 14:39 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/ironic master: bindep: Remove stale markers https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/999518 | 14:50 |
| dtantsur | TheJulia: thank you! | 14:57 |
| TheJulia | no problem, happy to help | 14:58 |
| TheJulia | #startmeeting ironic | 15:01 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting started Mon Aug 3 15:01:55 2026 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is TheJulia. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| opendevmeet | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| opendevmeet | The meeting name has been set to 'ironic' | 15:01 |
| iurygregory | o/ | 15:02 |
| TheJulia | Y'all know what time it is! | 15:02 |
| Mahnoor | o/ | 15:02 |
| estherd[m] | o/ | 15:02 |
| dtantsur | o/ | 15:02 |
| JayF | \o | 15:02 |
| TheJulia | so who is chairing this meeting? | 15:03 |
| rpittau | o/ | 15:03 |
| TheJulia | ... or did I volunteer last week and forget? | 15:03 |
| TheJulia | Our agenda this week can be found on the wiki! | 15:03 |
| TheJulia | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic | 15:03 |
| TheJulia | #topic Announcements / Reminders | 15:04 |
| TheJulia | First off, standing call to review ironic-week-prio items. We had 32 items up for review when I looked earlier this morning. | 15:04 |
| TheJulia | #link https://tinyurl.com/ironic-weekly-prio-dash | 15:04 |
| cid | o/ | 15:05 |
| TheJulia | As a reminder, this is week R-8 until the release. | 15:06 |
| TheJulia | #link https://releases.openstack.org/hibiscus/schedule.html | 15:06 |
| hroy_ | o/ | 15:06 |
| TheJulia | R-6 is final release for non-client libraries | 15:06 |
| TheJulia | R-5 is client library freeze. | 15:06 |
| TheJulia | Anyone have anything else or onward? | 15:07 |
| TheJulia | #topic Working Group Updates | 15:08 |
| TheJulia | First up, Async IO! | 15:08 |
| TheJulia | iurygregory: do you have anything for us this week? | 15:08 |
| iurygregory | The spec got merged, going to start looking at coding now o/ | 15:08 |
| TheJulia | I'm assuming landing next cycle then? | 15:09 |
| iurygregory | yeah | 15:10 |
| TheJulia | cool cool then! | 15:10 |
| TheJulia | JayF: do you have anything for the Security Coresec Team of Ironic? | 15:10 |
| * TheJulia parses that as "Nothing at this time" | 15:12 | |
| TheJulia | Onward! | 15:12 |
| TheJulia | #topic Discussion topics | 15:12 |
| JayF | *blink* | 15:12 |
| TheJulia | Looks like someone added something about outreachy | 15:12 |
| JayF | There were no security issues released last week. We have a draft OSSN up which will befiled, probably another one this week. | 15:12 |
| JayF | </update> | 15:12 |
| rpittau | TheJulia: that was from last week | 15:12 |
| * TheJulia hands JayF moar coffee | 15:12 | |
| TheJulia | rpittau: okay then! | 15:13 |
| TheJulia | Onward! | 15:13 |
| TheJulia | #topic Bug Deputy Updates | 15:13 |
| TheJulia | Whom was our awesome bug deputy this past week? | 15:13 |
| cid | That's me | 15:14 |
| cid | I triaged a couple of bugs, 5 from this week. 0 new RFEs | 15:15 |
| cid | I marked one as needing help to triage... IPA's IPv6/IPv4 | 15:15 |
| cid | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic-python-agent-builder/+bug/2161947 | 15:15 |
| cid | socat serial console broken by shell-quoting (I will be working on this) | 15:16 |
| cid | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/2162414 | 15:16 |
| cid | iDRAC automated cleaning should clear the job queue to prevent repeated deploy failures | 15:16 |
| cid | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/2162152 | 15:16 |
| cid | Deploy fails when rebooting iDRAC 10 post BIOS configuration | 15:16 |
| cid | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/2162567 | 15:16 |
| cid | This one is already fixed... I am considering marking as such | 15:17 |
| cid | Or whether to wait for the reporter to confirm the fix | 15:17 |
| JayF | that IPA v4 vs v6 is tough | 15:17 |
| cid | >>> Redfish BIOS apply crashes when BootProgress is null | 15:17 |
| cid | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/2161609 | 15:17 |
| TheJulia | Yeah, since part of it simple-init and the rest of it is base state :\ | 15:18 |
| cid | Their workaround should be valid for their use case | 15:20 |
| cid | I found a documentation that I linked in a reply on the report which I believe is why disabling simple-init is not the fix | 15:21 |
| TheJulia | Yeah, but ideally it just works | 15:21 |
| TheJulia | Yeah, I think we need to try and "fix" simple-init there | 15:21 |
| TheJulia | to at least respect it, but I also suspect simple-init folks may push back becasue its not their ideal model of use | 15:22 |
| TheJulia | I think its a valid issue, I just don't know how we're going to fix that one | 15:23 |
| TheJulia | really, its a simple-init issue in that ipv6-only *and* config-drive less environments are just an operational reality | 15:23 |
| cid | Oh well, maybe some feedback we can take to the reporter? | 15:24 |
| TheJulia | Yeah, I think we should triage it against simple-init as well if it has a bug tracker | 15:25 |
| TheJulia | We're definitely in a weird mixed case | 15:25 |
| TheJulia | cid: do you feel comfortable making updates along those lines to engage with the reporter and minimally tag simple-init ? | 15:25 |
| JayF | simple-init is glean, yeah? | 15:25 |
| TheJulia | yes | 15:26 |
| JayF | you saying it's a glean issue? | 15:26 |
| JayF | ack | 15:26 |
| TheJulia | Reads like it, tbh | 15:26 |
| cid | TheJulia, Sure | 15:26 |
| cid | So, next... Do I close out this #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ironic/+bug/2161609 as already fixed since it really is? | 15:26 |
| JayF | your commnet is correct there | 15:27 |
| JayF | use the incomplete status | 15:27 |
| JayF | incomplete means "this isn't a bug unless the person who filed it proves it better" | 15:27 |
| JayF | in many bug trackers (IDK about LP) incomplete turns into invalid after some timeout | 15:28 |
| cid | +++. I made the switch | 15:28 |
| cid | That's all the update. | 15:28 |
| cid | Thanks everyone :) | 15:28 |
| TheJulia | Thanks! | 15:29 |
| * TheJulia looks for the meeting agenda | 15:30 | |
| TheJulia | Who shall be our bug deputy for this next week? | 15:30 |
| Mahnoor | I can do it | 15:30 |
| TheJulia | Mahnoor: Thanks! | 15:30 |
| cid | \o/ | 15:31 |
| TheJulia | Sine we don't have any RFE's listed, we'll now proceed to Open Discussion | 15:31 |
| TheJulia | #topic Open Discussion | 15:31 |
| TheJulia | Does anyone have anything for Open Discussion? | 15:31 |
| JayF | I have put up a spec for LAG support in ironic-networking | 15:31 |
| JayF | that's going to be implemented on an accelerated timeline | 15:31 |
| JayF | please go look, make comments if you have them | 15:32 |
| JayF | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic-specs/+/999448 I need to apply human review to it | 15:32 |
| JayF | but my intention is to have this cleaned up and start implementation as early as this week | 15:32 |
| TheJulia | Fair, I'll try to take a look today. | 15:33 |
| dtantsur | cc alegacy__ | 15:33 |
| * JayF will have a human-reviewed version of that up by EOD, what's up there now is claude | 15:33 | |
| TheJulia | Speaking of specs, https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic-specs/+/997653 would love another set of eyes. | 15:33 |
| iurygregory | will put on my list to review today | 15:38 |
| TheJulia | cool, thanks | 15:41 |
| TheJulia | Does anyone else have anything else for today's meeting | 15:41 |
| TheJulia | ? | 15:41 |
| TheJulia | #topic Who will chair the next meeting? | 15:42 |
| TheJulia | Who wishes to chair our next meeting of the Ironic project? | 15:42 |
| TheJulia | Volunteers welcome! | 15:42 |
| JayF | o/ | 15:43 |
| TheJulia | JayF volunteers! | 15:43 |
| TheJulia | Thanks JayF! | 15:43 |
| TheJulia | Thanks everyone, have a great week! | 15:44 |
| TheJulia | #endmeeting | 15:44 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting ended Mon Aug 3 15:44:48 2026 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:44 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/ironic/2026/ironic.2026-08-03-15.01.html | 15:44 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes (text): https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/ironic/2026/ironic.2026-08-03-15.01.txt | 15:44 |
| opendevmeet | Log: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/ironic/2026/ironic.2026-08-03-15.01.log.html | 15:44 |
| opendevreview | Julia Kreger proposed openstack/networking-generic-switch master: Add Cisco NDFC REST API driver for VXLAN L2VNI https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/networking-generic-switch/+/968484 | 16:25 |
| opendevreview | Julia Kreger proposed openstack/networking-generic-switch master: Add multicast BUM replication support to NDFC driver https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/networking-generic-switch/+/984815 | 16:25 |
| TheJulia | More calls to review https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic-specs/+/990413 as well | 16:35 |
| dtantsur | Folks, we have a fight for the next API version between several efforts. Let's start untangling them? I think https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/992034 is the closet, after which we can turn to chain from https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/989994 | 16:51 |
| dtantsur | I think https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/989224 can pick the last version to avoid blocking Outreachy | 16:52 |
| dtantsur | (all of them also fight for database migrations and object versions, sooo... a mess) | 16:52 |
| TheJulia | currently reviewing Jay's standalone network lag proposal | 16:55 |
| JayF | that really is fairly AI-raw, I'm doing a human pass on it now | 16:56 |
| TheJulia | Yeah, its too verbose and... not exactly correct in a few places | 16:56 |
| JayF | I mainly posted it in it's current state so I could: 1) point at it in the meeting (so people know it's happening) and 2) it's easier to mock a bad AI spec than it is to start form blank | 16:59 |
| TheJulia | ++ | 16:59 |
| TheJulia | Overall, mainly just AI feedback more than anything else ;) | 17:10 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/ironic-tempest-plugin master: Add graphical console API tests https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic-tempest-plugin/+/999143 | 17:53 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/ironic master: A non-voting job for the container console provider https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/998934 | 17:53 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/ironic-tempest-plugin master: Improve autodetect test coverage https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic-tempest-plugin/+/998398 | 17:53 |
| * cardoe waves at everyone. (channel the Forest Gump wave on the shrimp boat) | 18:40 | |
| TheJulia | take us with you.... | 18:40 |
| cardoe | I just looked at a 5th wheel... | 18:56 |
| TheJulia | What ya looking at? | 19:00 |
| TheJulia | cardoe: disclaimer: 90% of the "rv resort" I'm in is 5th wheels... YMMV by brand/type/capability *dramatically* | 19:06 |
| TheJulia | TIL Jolt Cola is on amazon | 19:06 |
| cardoe | Brinkley Z3610 | 19:08 |
| TheJulia | Thats a nice layout | 19:09 |
| cardoe | The "office" is what I'm aiming for. Cause the kids can wake up and have breakfast and make all kinds of noise and I can move into the bunk to be my office. | 19:11 |
| TheJulia | ++ | 19:11 |
| TheJulia | I've toured a similar floor plan. Its a bit tight but doable since its theoretically just a sofabed | 19:12 |
| TheJulia | the down side.. the truck would need be a dualy | 19:14 |
| JayF | my folks have a large trailer RV | 19:14 |
| JayF | and don't love it | 19:14 |
| TheJulia | I'm sure NobodyCam has opinions here | 19:16 |
| TheJulia | but I'm unsure if mentioning will summon him | 19:16 |
| cardoe | Yeah this would definitely be a size up for us. | 19:17 |
| cardoe | TheJulia: a 350 can handle it optioned correctly. | 19:17 |
| TheJulia | oh yes | 19:18 |
| TheJulia | Summer describes it as a land hole to send $$$$ into, until she heard the make/model your looking at. | 19:19 |
| TheJulia | (She likes their floor plans) | 19:21 |
| cardoe | I've got two kids that come with us. Plus dog. Plus bearded dragon this past time. | 19:22 |
| TheJulia | You needs it | 19:22 |
| cardoe | Sometimes my kids bring their friends. | 19:22 |
| TheJulia | That... or the crazy split level ones | 19:22 |
| cardoe | Sometimes my wife and her friend stay in the camper and I stay in a tent with all the kids (if it's a Scouting cross-over) | 19:23 |
| cardoe | Like we did 7-8 days in the camper, then met the Scout troop and my wife kept the camper and I joined the kids and then we did another 10 days in the camper. | 19:24 |
| cardoe | Next summer we're going out west, me and my boys are going to Philmont for 12 days and then rejoining my wife in the camper for the rest of the summer. | 19:27 |
| TheJulia | define "out west" :) | 19:30 |
| JayF | I was gonna ask how much they cost | 19:31 |
| JayF | but the website has my answer (you have to email them == too expensive) | 19:31 |
| cardoe | With RVs MSRP isn't tethered to reality. 40% off MSRP is a starting point for conversations. 50% off is achievable. | 19:33 |
| cardoe | I won't say its cheap. | 19:34 |
| JayF | I mean, you said "they are so expensive they can be bought for 50% under MSRP" | 19:34 |
| JayF | lol | 19:34 |
| JayF | that makes me imagine that even with the 1/2 off MSRP you're looking at closer to $100k than not | 19:34 |
| opendevreview | Jay Faulkner proposed openstack/ironic master: Portgroup shard filter bypasses scope to project https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/999656 | 20:03 |
| cardoe | It's definitely not something I would do for occasional trips. This year I'll spend approximately 15% of my nights in mine. Next year just with what I've got planned it'll be closer to 20% | 20:04 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/ironic master: api: Add schema for chassis API https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/999508 | 20:04 |
| cardoe | TheJulia: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/neutron/+/994936 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/2162752 really feels like he's doing a bunch of what we're doing... wish he'd work with us. | 20:05 |
| TheJulia | cardoe: I think you even emailed them... | 20:07 |
| cardoe | Sure did. | 20:07 |
| TheJulia | cardoe: If you somehow end up visiting Albaquerque, The Bernaillo KOA has a small brewery attached. Santa Fe, there is a cute little place on the southern side of the city that allows you to get into town. Flagstaff has a place basically in downtown as well which is good for a stop over if you can deal with trains | 20:11 |
| JayF | And if you ever get that bus up here to the Olympics here in WA | 20:12 |
| JayF | I can show you the best damn view of fog you've ever seen | 20:12 |
| TheJulia | lol | 20:12 |
| TheJulia | JayF is not wrong! | 20:13 |
| JayF | a beautiful vista of about 5 feet in front of your face, all white and misty | 20:13 |
| JayF | This is when you here the local person near you sadly say "mountains' not out today" | 20:13 |
| cardoe | Philmont is in New Mexico | 20:14 |
| TheJulia | they took away google maps access from us | 20:16 |
| * TheJulia looks on her phone | 20:16 | |
| TheJulia | cardoe: Santa Fe Skies Rv Park in Santa Fe is nice if you need a spot near civilizaiton for a few days. Santa Fe is super touristy, FWIW. But it is a good launching pad for a day trip say to Los Alamos | 20:18 |
| TheJulia | There is a small museum there called the Bradbury Science Museum which was sort of neat when I checked it out... like 8 years ago | 20:19 |
| JayF | this is the revised mdns ossn, likely getting announced today https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/security-doc/+/999451/ | 20:20 |
| JayF | re-review or forever hold your peace (or make me errata, gross) | 20:20 |
| opendevreview | Julia Kreger proposed openstack/networking-generic-switch master: Add Cisco NDFC REST API driver for VXLAN L2VNI https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/networking-generic-switch/+/968484 | 20:33 |
| opendevreview | Julia Kreger proposed openstack/networking-generic-switch master: Add multicast BUM replication support to NDFC driver https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/networking-generic-switch/+/984815 | 20:33 |
| TheJulia | JayF: originating version noted | 20:38 |
| JayF | OSSN-0104 announcement out, re: IPA mDNS | 20:53 |
| opendevreview | Julia Kreger proposed openstack/ironic master: Extend the RBAC policy matrix to steps https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/992542 | 21:10 |
| TheJulia | dtantsur: I've +2'ed https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ironic/+/992034, that being said, I'd agree with the items you've highlighted | 21:32 |
| TheJulia | dtantsur: I guess whatever order is fine, but whomever approves should likely do the follow-up to the other | 21:33 |
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