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| mgoddard | meeting in a few minutes, agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Kayobe | 13:59 |
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| mgoddard | #startmeeting kayobe | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jan 21 14:00:46 2019 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mgoddard. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: kayobe)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kayobe' | 14:00 |
| mgoddard | Welcome to the first Kayobe IRC meeting! | 14:01 |
| mgoddard | We'll start with a rollcall | 14:01 |
| mgoddard | #topic rollcall | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "rollcall (Meeting topic: kayobe)" | 14:01 | |
| mgoddard | Please raise your hands | 14:01 |
| mgoddard | o/ | 14:01 |
| jovial[m] | \o/ | 14:02 |
| yankcrime | o/ | 14:02 |
| mgoddard | #topic agenda | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "agenda (Meeting topic: kayobe)" | 14:03 | |
| mgoddard | * Roll-call | 14:03 |
| mgoddard | * Announcements | 14:03 |
| mgoddard | * yankcrime leaving core | 14:03 |
| mgoddard | * Discussion | 14:03 |
| mgoddard | * Meeting format | 14:04 |
| mgoddard | * Rocky release (https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kayobe-rocky-release) | 14:04 |
| mgoddard | * Stein release (https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kayobe-stein-release) | 14:04 |
| mgoddard | * Summit CFP | 14:04 |
| mgoddard | * Open Discussion | 14:04 |
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| mgoddard | #topic announcements | 14:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements (Meeting topic: kayobe)" | 14:04 | |
| mgoddard | Sorry to start the first meeting on a low note, but yankcrime will be leaving the core group in a few weeks to due a change of role | 14:05 |
| yankcrime | ;_; | 14:05 |
| mgoddard | Thanks for all your work yankcrime, you've made some good contributions | 14:05 |
| jovial[m] | he will very much be missed | 14:05 |
| mgoddard | Any other announcements? | 14:06 |
| yankcrime | it's been both a pleasure and an honour to work with you all | 14:06 |
| mgoddard | Likewise | 14:07 |
| mgoddard | #topic meeting format | 14:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "meeting format (Meeting topic: kayobe)" | 14:07 | |
| mgoddard | Since it's the first time we're doing this, I thought I'd just go over how we expect it to work. It should be familiar for anyone who attends other OpenStack IRC meetings | 14:07 |
| mgoddard | Meetings will be at this time (1400 UTC) on every other Monday, even calendar weeks | 14:08 |
| mgoddard | Please add anything you'd like to be discussed to the agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Kayobe | 14:09 |
| mgoddard | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Kayobe | 14:09 |
| mgoddard | Ideally prior to the meeting. If not, other things can be brought up in the final 'open discussion' | 14:09 |
| mgoddard | Any thoughts/questions? | 14:09 |
| jovial[m] | Do you just edit `Agenda for next meeting `? | 14:10 |
| mgoddard | Yes | 14:10 |
| mgoddard | I'll add some words to the wiki to make that a little clearer | 14:10 |
| jovial[m] | What happens to the old agenda? | 14:10 |
| mgoddard | #action mgoddard to add some words to the wiki to make that a little clearer | 14:10 |
| mgoddard | Getting the hang of this | 14:10 |
| mgoddard | Any others? | 14:11 |
| priteau | Just a reminder that come end of March, the United Kingdom will be on UTC+1 and that will make the meeting be at 15:00 London Time | 14:11 |
| mgoddard | Good point priteau, thanks | 14:11 |
| mgoddard | #topic rocky release | 14:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "rocky release (Meeting topic: kayobe)" | 14:11 | |
| mgoddard | so we're still trailing upstream releases, but are hopefully on track to catch up during Stein | 14:12 |
| mgoddard | Next kayobe release will be for Rocky, within the next few weeks if possible | 14:12 |
| mgoddard | #link add some words to the wiki to make that a little clearer | 14:13 |
| mgoddard | #undo | 14:13 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: #link add | 14:13 |
| mgoddard | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kayobe-rocky-release | 14:13 |
| mgoddard | Please update the above with any features or bugs you think should be in the release | 14:13 |
| mgoddard | This will be used more particularly as we get closer to the end, to decide at what point to branch and release, and which features to hold until stein | 14:14 |
| mgoddard | Questions/thoughts? | 14:14 |
| mgoddard | #topic stein release | 14:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "stein release (Meeting topic: kayobe)" | 14:16 | |
| mgoddard | The openstack stein release is planned to be made on 8th - 12th April | 14:17 |
| mgoddard | Kolla releases typically trail this by a few weeks, I would expect us to do the same since we depend on kolla | 14:18 |
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| mgoddard | I don't expect it to be a big release for us, due to the timescale, but hopefully time for a few features | 14:18 |
| mgoddard | Again, if there is anything you would particularly like to see in the release, please add it to the release page | 14:19 |
| mgoddard | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kayobe-stein-release | 14:19 |
| mgoddard | Anyone have features they'd particularly like to see in Stein? | 14:19 |
| mgoddard | I guess we'll take it as we go. Certainly plenty on the backlog | 14:21 |
| mgoddard | #topic Summit CFP | 14:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Summit CFP (Meeting topic: kayobe)" | 14:21 | |
| mgoddard | This is more of an announcement really | 14:21 |
| mgoddard | OpenStack summit call for presentations is open | 14:22 |
| mgoddard | The deadline to submit is Wednesday, January 23 at 11:59pm PT. | 14:22 |
| mgoddard | So not long to go | 14:22 |
| jovial[m] | Are you thinking of presenting? | 14:23 |
| mgoddard | I'd like to submit an 'intro to kayobe' talk | 14:23 |
| mgoddard | if anyone else has any ideas for talks related to kayobe, now's the time | 14:24 |
| mgoddard | pairing up with others is often well received | 14:24 |
| mgoddard | jovial[m]: are you going to submit any? | 14:25 |
| jovial[m] | I've got nothing sufficently interesting to talk about - sorry | 14:26 |
| mgoddard | I'm sure that's not true! | 14:26 |
| mgoddard | #topic open discussion | 14:27 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: kayobe)" | 14:27 | |
| jovial[m] | battle stories from kayobe in the field? | 14:27 |
| mgoddard | jovial[m]: those kinds of talks are always interesting | 14:27 |
| mgoddard | Anyone have anything else they'd like to discuss? | 14:28 |
| mgoddard | jovial[m]: how is your pip install work going? | 14:31 |
| jovial[m] | Seems to work well enough. I was awaiting to see if anyone had any more feedback. | 14:32 |
| jovial[m] | I guess we still need those PBR fixes merged. | 14:32 |
| mgoddard | Good. I'd like to pull it down at some point to try to break it :) | 14:33 |
| mgoddard | does it depend on the PBR changes? | 14:33 |
| jovial[m] | At least the one that fixes the handling of whitespace changes: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/629161/ | 14:33 |
| jovial[m] | only if you want to use it in the editable install mode | 14:34 |
| mgoddard | hmm | 14:34 |
| jovial[m] | which could install galaxy dpenedencies into your git checkout | 14:34 |
| mgoddard | any workaround possible? | 14:35 |
| mgoddard | we know which files cause problems, and they're only necessary for Arch, which we don't support. Could we remove them? | 14:35 |
| jovial[m] | manually removing "ansible/roles/yatesr.timezone/templates/timezone-Arch Linux.j2"? | 14:36 |
| mgoddard | yeah | 14:36 |
| jovial[m] | that is the only file that causes trouble | 14:36 |
| mgoddard | would be a shame to get blocked on PBR merge & release, given we're quite close to release | 14:36 |
| priteau | Change the control host bootstrap to remove this file? | 14:36 |
| mgoddard | we might also have issues with Rocky upper-constraints - they won't get a PBR bump | 14:37 |
| mgoddard | we don't normally use UC to install, but might do in CI/tox, can't remember | 14:37 |
| jovial[m] | we could manually expand the glob and list everyfile in setup.cfg? | 14:38 |
| jovial[m] | without that one :D | 14:38 |
| mgoddard | sounds difficult to maintain | 14:38 |
| mgoddard | does removing the file not work? | 14:39 |
| mgoddard | I know it's a bit gross, but at least it's small and gross :) | 14:39 |
| jovial[m] | I think it may be possible to use a hook when the file is packaged. Does anyone know? | 14:40 |
| mgoddard | the problem being that we might not get to run e.g. control host bootstrap between pip installs? | 14:41 |
| jovial[m] | yeah | 14:41 |
| jovial[m] | or we could fork: https://github.com/yatesr/ansible-timezone? | 14:41 |
| jovial[m] | at least until we have PBR support | 14:42 |
| mgoddard | that might not be the worst option | 14:42 |
| mgoddard | I think that is the simplest path forward | 14:43 |
| mgoddard | we can always go back once PBR is fixed | 14:44 |
| mgoddard | I'll review those PBR patches in the meantime to see if that helps nudge them along | 14:45 |
| jovial[m] | OK, sounds good to me. | 14:45 |
| mgoddard | ok, thanks jovial[m] | 14:45 |
| mgoddard | any others? | 14:45 |
| mgoddard | I guess not. Thanks for coming everyone! | 14:46 |
| mgoddard | #endmeeting | 14:46 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Deployment of containerised OpenStack to bare metal | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Kayobe" | 14:46 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jan 21 14:46:22 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:46 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kayobe/2019/kayobe.2019-01-21-14.00.html | 14:46 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kayobe/2019/kayobe.2019-01-21-14.00.txt | 14:46 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kayobe/2019/kayobe.2019-01-21-14.00.log.html | 14:46 |
| jovial[m] | It's been good to be a part of the first meeting - I'm sure this will be a historic moment | 14:47 |
| mgoddard | :) | 14:47 |
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