Friday, 2015-09-25

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openstackgerritJamie Lennox proposed openstack/keystoneauth: Allow fetching oslo.config Opts from plugins  https://review.openstack.org/22761100:41
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openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/pycadf: Add shields.io version/downloads links/badges into README.rst  https://review.openstack.org/22761900:57
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DaisyHi, who could help me understand if python-keystoneclient is deprecated or not ?02:03
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stevemarDaisy: whats up? :)02:04
DaisyHi02:05
stevemarthe CLI is deprecated, the keystoneclient package is still going to be around to serve python bindings02:05
DaisyI'm from I18n team. I want to understand if python-keystoneclient is deprecated or not. I want to know if you hope to have the keystone python client in the translation website or not ?02:06
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DaisyWill python-openstackclient be used instead of keystoneclient ?02:07
stevemarDaisy: going forward we want users to only use openstackclient, not keystoneclient02:07
Daisyok. CLI is deprecated.02:08
stevemaryup02:08
DaisySo I think maybe keystoneclient could be removed from translation website. Because there will be no user facing messages there.02:08
DaisyThank you, stevemar02:12
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stevemarDaisy: sure, what do i need to do to remove it from the translation website?02:46
DaisyNo, you don'02:46
DaisyYou don't need to.02:46
DaisyI will take care of it.02:46
DaisyThank you for the information.02:46
stevemarDaisy: cool02:46
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bknudsonDaisy: there are user-facing messages in keystoneclient. they'd be displayed in the openstack cli03:41
Daisybut cli is deprecated, right ?03:41
stevemarbknudson: late night, i see the oslo team is working you hard now03:42
bknudsonDaisy: openstack cli is not deprecated03:42
bknudsonstevemar: we're sprinting, so no sleep03:42
Daisycli in keystoneclient is deprected ?03:42
bknudsonDaisy: yes, it is.03:42
Daisythat's the answer.03:42
bknudsonthe openstack cli is not deprecated, and it can display strings from keystoneclient03:43
Daisyopenstackclient is a project in translation website, and people could translate strings in openstackclient. Is that enough for keystone ?03:44
bknudsonDaisy: no. it might get strings from keystoneclient.03:44
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Daisyoh, I didn't know that.03:45
bknudsonalso, keystoneclient can be used by customer applications so they might want translated strings03:45
Daisyok.03:45
Daisystevemar: what's your point ?03:48
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stevemarDaisy: yeah, bknudson is correct, openstackclient still receives strings from keystoneclient, (it uses keystoneclient to perform the requests)03:49
Daisyso it is valuable to put keystoneclient in the translation website.03:50
Daisystevemar and bknudson : will openstackclient uses keystoneclient forever, or do you have plan to change it  in the future ?03:51
stevemarDaisy: i think so, yes. it doesn't have too many strings, but there are some03:52
stevemarDaisy: openstackclient will use keystoneclient for a while, but keystoneclient will remove it's shell: https://github.com/openstack/python-keystoneclient/blob/master/keystoneclient/v2_0/shell.py03:53
stevemarwhich is where most of the translations are03:54
Daisykeystoneclient will remove its shell to openstackclient ?03:54
DaisyI mean, in the future, where does openstackclient get response messages to keystone command ?03:55
stevemarDaisy: openstackclient will still call the python libraries in keystoneclient, so, it could still receive messages like: https://github.com/openstack/python-keystoneclient/blob/master/keystoneclient/v3/roles.py#L65-L7103:55
Daisyok.03:56
DaisyI will ask AJaeger to include keystoneclient in the translation projects.03:57
stevemarDaisy: yes, but don't include the shell.py file, since we'll be removing that one, and that's where 90% of the translations are03:57
Daisy:)03:59
Daisystevemar: it's not able to not include a single file. But when you are remove it, the translations will be removed automatically.03:59
Daisywhen you are going to remove it, stevemar  ?04:00
Daisyin M release ?04:00
stevemarDaisy: some time in M04:00
stevemarthats the goal!04:00
Daisyok.04:00
DaisyThank you, stevemar . I got what I want.04:00
stevemarDaisy: would it help if we didn't mark the strings in shell.py as translation strings?04:01
openstackgerritDave Chen proposed openstack/keystonemiddleware: update middlewarearchitecture.rst  https://review.openstack.org/21916204:01
stevemarwe just leave them with "" instead of _()04:01
Daisystevemar: no need to bother to do that. Keep your common way.04:02
Daisystevemar: I don't think keystoneclient will be translated very much before you move the shell file.04:03
Daisystevemar: we haven't set up the plan to translate those client projects yet.04:04
jamielennoxstevemar: we may as well remove it right? If we need to remove the shell file the only thing left is exception messages and they will move to KSA for ksc204:04
Daisystevemar: we are still in preparation.04:04
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Daisystevemar: you don't need to bother to update _() to "". If you add new strings to shall, you may choose not mark them with _() if you want to delete shell sometime in M release. That would be helpful.04:05
stevemarjamielennox: what about the one i linked a few lines back?04:06
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Daisygo for lunch now.04:07
jamielennoxstevemar: yea, they'd come from ksc, might argue though they should be different exceptions and that openstackclient should be writing the messages04:07
jamielennox(i only just read the last few lines)04:08
jamielennox:qa04:08
jamielennoxbah04:08
openstackgerritDave Chen proposed openstack/keystonemiddleware: update middlewarearchitecture.rst  https://review.openstack.org/21916204:08
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openstackgerritSteve Martinelli proposed openstack/keystoneauth: Add shields.io version/downloads links/badges into README.rst  https://review.openstack.org/22765204:10
openstackgerritSteve Martinelli proposed openstack/keystonemiddleware: Add shields.io version/downloads links/badges into README.rst  https://review.openstack.org/22765304:12
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openstackgerritSteve Martinelli proposed openstack/python-keystoneclient: Add shields.io version/downloads links/badges into README.rst  https://review.openstack.org/22765404:13
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openstackgerritSteve Martinelli proposed openstack/python-keystoneclient: auto-generate release history  https://review.openstack.org/22765504:20
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openstackgerritSteve Martinelli proposed openstack/keystonemiddleware: auto-generate release history  https://review.openstack.org/22765604:23
stevemarjamielennox: :q!04:24
stevemarjamielennox: i thought you were trying to write some clever emoticon04:24
jamielennoxstevemar: not that cool, just bog standard multi-montior alt-tab mistakes04:25
stevemarjamielennox: oh i realized it wasn't that, you're not *that* cool04:26
stevemarhehe04:26
jamielennoxit's a low bar of cool - not sure the emphasis was required...04:26
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stevemarjamielennox: true true04:27
openstackgerritSteve Martinelli proposed openstack/keystoneauth: auto-generate release history  https://review.openstack.org/22765704:27
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openstackgerritSteve Martinelli proposed openstack/keystoneauth: auto-generate release history  https://review.openstack.org/22765704:27
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openstackgerritSteve Martinelli proposed openstack/keystoneauth: remove references to keystone CLI  https://review.openstack.org/22765804:31
stevemarjamielennox: there you go, lots of easy ones for you to knock out04:32
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jamielennoxstevemar: shields.io badges?04:34
stevemarjamielennox: i had no idea what that was until today04:35
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stevemarbut its the little thingy that says the amount of downloads and such04:35
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jamielennoxyea - is that something we're doing?04:35
jamielennoxcause README.rst ends up on the github page and docs etc04:36
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jamielennox(i'm happy to just want to know if it's an all openstack thing or we're doing it ourselves)04:36
stevemarjamielennox: the oslo guys did it to all their projects today during their doc sprint04:37
jamielennoxok04:37
jamielennoxnext question - ChangeLog is the one generated from git history right?04:38
jamielennoxby pbr04:38
jamielennoxwe want that in docs/04:38
jamielennox?04:38
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stevemarjamielennox: yeah its just the commit msg04:46
stevemaryou can see how it is by pulling down and running tox -e docs04:46
stevemarjamielennox: or click the jenkins docs job here; https://review.openstack.org/#/c/227585/04:47
jamielennoxyea, it's just verbose and doesn't give you much actual info04:47
stevemarlooks like this http://docs-draft.openstack.org/85/227585/1/check/gate-pycadf-docs/943a3de//doc/build/html/history.html04:48
stevemaryeah, i agree04:48
stevemarjamielennox: for OSC we may not do it04:48
stevemarjamielennox: but for KSC/KSA/KSM... there is nothing04:48
openstackgerritDave Chen proposed openstack/keystonemiddleware: update middlewarearchitecture.rst  https://review.openstack.org/21916204:49
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/pycadf: Add shields.io version/downloads links/badges into README.rst  https://review.openstack.org/22761905:14
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openstackgerritDave Chen proposed openstack/keystonemiddleware: Configuration is outdated  https://review.openstack.org/22054505:19
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openstackgerritAnkit Agrawal proposed openstack/python-keystoneclient: Use dictionary literal for dictionary creation  https://review.openstack.org/22769006:48
openstackgerritAnkit Agrawal proposed openstack/python-keystoneclient: List creation could be rewritten as a list literal  https://review.openstack.org/22769106:48
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openstackgerritHidekazu Nakamura proposed openstack/keystone: Update development environment set up doc  https://review.openstack.org/22302007:01
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/keystone: Fix typo in config help  https://review.openstack.org/22688807:21
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/keystone: Updating sample configuration file  https://review.openstack.org/22770207:25
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openstackgerritDave Chen proposed openstack/keystone: Using the right format to render the docstring correctly  https://review.openstack.org/22622509:00
openstackgerrithenry-nash proposed openstack/keystone: Enable listing of role assignments in a project hierarchy  https://review.openstack.org/20815209:17
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tsufievsamueldmq, thanks, will try to attend the workshop (if it's held in Tokyo)09:17
openstackgerritRajesh Tailor proposed openstack/keystone: Fix order of arguments in assertEqual  https://review.openstack.org/22667709:18
openstackgerrithenry-nash proposed openstack/keystone: Rationalize list role assignment routing  https://review.openstack.org/22033509:18
tsufievsamueldmq, do we have any chance to vote for this cross-project session?09:19
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samueldmqmorning09:29
samueldmqtsufiev: nice; I don't know how that works (if we need to vote, etc)09:30
samueldmqtsufiev: I will learn and tell you :)09:30
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tsufievsamueldmq, yep, morning )09:33
tsufievI guess ayoung knows, should ask him once he's here09:33
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davechen1samueldmq: good afternoon. :)09:37
davechen1samueldmq: will you have some session in the Tokyo?09:38
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openstackgerritDavanum Srinivas (dims) proposed openstack/oslo.policy: add auto-generated docs for config options  https://review.openstack.org/22776310:49
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openstackgerrithenry-nash proposed openstack/keystone: Add API route for list role assignments for tree  https://review.openstack.org/22045211:24
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odyssey4meis anyone around that can help me confirm how keystone_authtoken should be configured for services like nova, cinder, etc for liberty?11:50
odyssey4methe auth_plugin changes are confusing me a little11:50
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dstanekstevemar: what is shields.io?14:07
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openstackgerritJulien Danjou proposed openstack/keystone: wsgi: fix base_url finding  https://review.openstack.org/22646414:11
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openstackgerritHenrique Truta proposed openstack/keystone: Replicate domain info in projects table  https://review.openstack.org/21117014:29
openstackgerritHenrique Truta proposed openstack/keystone: Change project name constraints  https://review.openstack.org/15837214:29
openstackgerritHenrique Truta proposed openstack/keystone: Add is_domain parameter to get_project_by_name  https://review.openstack.org/21060014:29
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openstackgerritAlexander Makarov proposed openstack/keystonemiddleware: Move response status check to the call  https://review.openstack.org/22788314:47
openstackgerritHenrique Truta proposed openstack/keystone: Tests for projects acting as domains  https://review.openstack.org/21121914:48
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openstackgerritAlexander Makarov proposed openstack/keystonemiddleware: Move response status check to the call  https://review.openstack.org/22788314:50
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openstackgerritSteve Martinelli proposed openstack/keystoneauth: remove references to keystone CLI  https://review.openstack.org/22765815:23
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stevemarbknudson: dolphm ^15:24
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/keystone: Updating sample configuration file  https://review.openstack.org/22770215:28
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ayoungstevemar, here's a n00b doc http://adam.younglogic.com/2015/09/keystone-unit-tests/15:45
stevemarnoob docs are the best docs ayoung15:48
ayoungstevemar, its called "let me write this down so I have notes when I forget how to do this."15:48
stevemarbknudson: looks like ksc gate is broken?15:48
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stevemarayoung: thats why i do most of my docs15:48
bknudsonstevemar: what broke the ksc gate?15:49
bknudsonI must have been me.15:49
bknudsonIt must have been me.15:49
bknudsonI was me.15:49
stevemarbknudson: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/227654/15:49
stevemarpy34 tests are borked?15:49
stevemarDeprecationWarning: Constructing an HTTPClient instance without using a session is deprecated as of the 1.7.0 release and may be removed in the 2.0.0 release.15:50
bknudsonthe change to deprecate a bunch of stuff went in a long time ago.15:50
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bknudsonstevemar: when I run tox -e py34 locally the tests pass... will need to figure out why it doesn't work in gate test15:53
stevemarcould be an intermittent failure, that's sad pants15:53
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dstanekthis is why we should just delete stuff and not deprecate it first :-)15:55
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bknudsonrunning those tests individually also passes locally15:56
dstanekstevemar: i like the auto release notes hack15:56
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openstackgerritDolph Mathews proposed openstack/keystone: Issue revocation events for the previous second  https://review.openstack.org/22701516:03
bknudsonstevemar: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/227805/ passed earlier today.16:03
bknudsonoh, that was on juno16:03
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bknudsonthese really should be failing since we want to catch use of deprecated function...16:12
bknudsonnot sure why they're not failing in 2.7 or 3.4 locally16:12
openstackgerritAlexander Makarov proposed openstack/keystonemiddleware: Move response status check to the call  https://review.openstack.org/22788316:13
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bknudsonmaybe there's an issue fixed with resetting warnings16:18
bknudsonor filtering warnings in a new version of py3416:18
bknudsonThe following packages will be upgraded: python3.416:19
bknudsonthis might get intersting16:19
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/oslo.policy: add auto-generated docs for config options  https://review.openstack.org/22776316:32
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bknudsonI'm seeing the failures locally now that I upgraded. should be an easy fix.16:34
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amakarovayoung, hi!17:11
ayoungamakarov, how goes it?17:11
amakarovayoung, fine! I have a question about delegations17:12
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ayoungFire 'way17:12
amakarovIf group is delegated a scope, should a member of this group be able to redelegate it?17:13
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ayoungamakarov, yes, under normal circumstances.  It might be something we want to restrict in some cases, though.17:14
dstanekmorgan: bored?17:14
morgandstanek: nope17:14
ayoungamakarov, that is like the redelegation of trust stuff;17:15
morgandstanek: waiting for PTL election to end17:15
dstaneklol17:15
ayoungamakarov, if you don't want someone to redelegate it, I suspect that things will break.  Trusts already have this need to do things for a user later on...17:15
dstaneki have my acceptance and concession tweets ready to go17:15
ayoungdstanek, both of mine have to be edited to remove the cuss words17:16
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dstanekayoung: no editing. they should feel authentic17:16
ayoungdstanek, I'm thinking about what Heat is doing with the rotating PTL.  We might want to adopt that17:17
morgandstanek: it's hard to read when they are #$%^%$%^^ $%#$%#$## %#%$#%#$%34 #%#$%$%%$## PTL #$##@@@!@$#%%^^ Thanks17:17
morganayoung, ^ ;)17:18
dstanekbut at least you can feel the passion17:18
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amakarovayoung, got it. I'm including 'transitive' flag into the model along with 'active' so that we can allow user to play the role but not redelegate it and vice versa17:18
ayoungdstanek, this project has real impact.  Its hard not to feel both proud of that and a little scared17:18
ayoungamakarov, what about 'liveness'?17:19
ayoungDoesn't that really cover it?17:19
ayoungor 'active'?17:19
amakarovayoung, I think 'strict17:19
amakarovayoung, I think 'strict' is a better name for this ))17:19
ayoungtransitive is, I don't think, required unless it is 'active'  right?17:19
ayoungamakarov, or, more correctly, If I redelegate a role assignment that is not transitive and not active, then it should become active17:20
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amakarovif it's not transitive you cannot redelegate it17:21
amakarovayoung, maybe, rename 'transitive' to 'sealed'...17:21
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ayoungHeym, would you look at that, I just coded an infininte loop.  No wonder my unit test takes so long to finish17:29
morgansnicker17:30
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openstackgerritTony Wang proposed openstack/keystone: Show v3 endpoints in v2 endpoint list  https://review.openstack.org/21587017:36
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dstanekayoung: this is what happens when you drink and code17:48
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browneI have an AD/ldap keystone question.  So if I have an AD domain that has multiple domain controllers, is there a way I can configure keystone for that?  would i have to use the multi-domain backend to accomplish this?  sometimes these DC are just for redundancy18:25
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stevemarbrowne: not entirely sure what you mean there... elaborate a bit?18:33
stevemarmultiple domain controllers?18:33
brownestevemar: basically a AD with a forest18:33
stevemardoes that mean you want to specify multiple DNs/trees in the config?18:33
browneusually that means multiple hostnames for each domain controller, and a single domain name18:33
brownestevemar:  ideally, multiple ldap urls could be specified in the config18:34
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brownefrom the microsoft docs: "Domains are units of replication. All of the domain controllers in a particular domain can receive changes and replicate those changes to all other domain controllers in the domain. Each domain in Active Directory is identified by a Domain Name System (DNS) domain name and requires one or more domain controllers"18:35
stevemarbrowne: so one of our customer facing folks gave me the same input18:36
stevemarkeystone doesn't support that right now18:36
browneso the issue in keystone is that i can't specify any redundancy if the domain is backed by multiple domain controllers.  so ideally i could specify multiple hostnames in that ldap url18:36
stevemarrigth18:36
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stevemari meant to send a mailing list note about that18:36
brownestevemar: oh ok.  i guess i can draft a blueprint.  one of our customers expressed the need also18:37
stevemarsounds like not a lot of implementation, but enough of a change to warrant a blueprint18:37
ayoungIts autumn in New England. And that means its Apple Season.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdkcOWBs4xg18:37
stevemarthe alternative is to use an apache config, since our ldap driver won't handle it18:37
ayoungbrowne, Use FreeIPA, a trust, and the Federation approach18:38
brownestevemar: but apache would just handle the authentication right?18:38
stevemarbrowne: the only thing i couldn't figure out was, how do prioritize the bind for the different ldap entries18:38
stevemarbrowne: you could federate things18:38
browneare there any blogs or guidance on how to do that?18:39
ayoungbrowne, yep...18:39
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ayoungbrowne, https://adam.younglogic.com/2014/05/keystone-federation-via-mod_lookup_identity/18:39
ayounghey what happends to my formatting?18:39
stevemarayoung: hehe, cute18:39
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ayoungstevemar, it is going to revolutionize my apple pie creation18:40
browneayoung: thanks, i'll take a look18:40
ayoungbrowne, is your Keystone server registered with your AD already?18:40
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browneyeah, we use Kilo, but we're not currently using apache218:40
stevemarayoung: you gotta go at a faster pace like this guy: http://www.wimp.com/peelingapples/18:41
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ayoungstevemar, It was a first run.  I used the slower, cordless drill.  I have a corded one, that can spin faster.  When I need to set up production, I'll up the technology18:42
ayoungbrowne, OK, so I might be leading you astray here, but this is the future.18:43
stevemarayoung: i feel like theres a devops joke somewhere in there18:43
ayoungstevemar, we'll let the eNovance guys turn it into an openstack reations gif18:43
ayoungbrowne, do you have LDAP working at all thus far?18:43
browneayoung:  yeah, ldap to the AD works fine.  but it provides no redundancy in case that domain controller goes down18:44
ayoungI think the short answer is, yes you do...the Federation will be no better18:44
ayoungyou need a load balance solution. Look at the presentation from GoDaddy18:44
ayounglet me find it, it was from a couple summits ago18:45
browneayoung: ok, someone else mentioned using a LB solution18:45
ayoungbrowne, https://www.openstack.org/summit/openstack-summit-atlanta-2014/session-videos/presentation/integrating-openstack-with-active-directory-because-ad-ldap18:45
browneayoung:  thx18:45
openstackgerritDolph Mathews proposed openstack/keystone: Test revocation race conditions  https://review.openstack.org/22799518:46
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ayoungbrowne, they used HA Proxy18:47
ayoungits at about the 19 minute mark18:47
openstackgerritDolph Mathews proposed openstack/keystone: Test revocation race conditions  https://review.openstack.org/22799518:47
browneayoung: ok interesting.  we already have ha proxy in this env18:47
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ayoungbrowne, note that none of this means I know anything about AD.  I'll deny it till my last breath18:48
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browneayoung: ha, np18:48
morganbrowne: adam knows a ton about AD... (it's because AD really just acts like LDAP most of the time) but doesn't want that knowledge to hurt his street cred :P18:51
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morganbrowne: but shhh ;)18:52
ayoungmorgan Lies. AD != LDAP...that is what that whole presentation is about.18:52
morganayoung: and it's true.. except where it's not18:52
morganAD is more like LDAP+/Kerberos+18:52
morganwith a funky schema18:53
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ayoungmorgan, so, it looks like the FreeIPA team have one-way trusts working.  That should make using IPA as the tie in to the existing LDAP a little easier.  It means a host managed by IPA can use a service ticket from corporate LDAP, but not the other way around.18:53
morgannice!18:53
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ayoungmorgan, yeah.  I'd like to see it become part of the baseline openstack story.  I think IPA is much more useful when focused on the host management side of things.18:54
morganseriously. IPA is a nice setup18:54
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stevemarwe should really get this merged and into rc18:55
stevemarhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/215870/718:55
stevemarthe bug currently isn't targeted18:55
stevemarit'll be super awkward for folks to not see any endpoints after setting up their cloud18:56
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openstackgerritDolph Mathews proposed openstack/keystone: Test revocation race conditions  https://review.openstack.org/22799519:07
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dstaneki love code philosophy.19:24
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ayoungdstanek, https://xkcd.com/442/19:39
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openstackgerritCorey Bryant proposed openstack/python-keystoneclient: HTTPClient/region_name deprecation test updates  https://review.openstack.org/22802119:50
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openstackgerritDolph Mathews proposed openstack/keystone: Test revocation race conditions  https://review.openstack.org/22799519:58
samueldmqwhen are ptl voting results gonna be published?19:58
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stevemarsamueldmq: in 3 hrs and 45 minutes!20:15
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openstackgerritDolph Mathews proposed openstack/keystone: Test revocation race conditions  https://review.openstack.org/22799520:38
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samueldmqstevemar: oh, nice!20:43
samueldmqstevemar, dstanek, ayoung, good luck! :)20:43
ayoungsamueldmq, thanks.  Glad to be the weakest of the candidates20:44
samueldmqayoung: ...20:44
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stevemarayoung: i genuinely have no idea what the result is going to be20:46
stevemarbut i do know that keystone will be in good hands either way :)20:47
ayoungSame here20:47
tristanC3 hours left until the end of PTL elections, vote, vote, vote!20:48
ayoungdstanek, I got the basics of that implied roles stuff working.20:49
ayoungimplied/inferred...I can't seem to give it a consistant name, but that thing20:49
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samueldmqyeah, either way keystone is on good hands, so I am sure I am not gonna rage-quit20:51
morgantristanC: you have no idea how much I'm looking forward to 3hrs from now20:52
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openstackgerritTom Cocozzello proposed openstack/keystone: Deprecate httpd/keystone.py  https://review.openstack.org/22197520:58
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stevemarmorgan: lol21:11
morganstevemar wat? :P21:11
stevemarmorgan: your previous comment21:11
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stevemarmorgan: just umm, suddenly make your laptop disappear21:12
stevemarfor 3 hrs21:12
morganI already went for a bike ride21:12
stevemarand when you;re back online, everything is all good21:12
morgantoo bad it was 34C out and I could only squeeze in ~40mins out in the sun w/ 44oz of water21:12
morgan44oz of almost ice-cold water when I started21:14
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-keystoneclient: HTTPClient/region_name deprecation test updates  https://review.openstack.org/22802122:14
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openstackgerritDolph Mathews proposed openstack/keystone: Test revocation race conditions  https://review.openstack.org/22799522:32
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dolphmlbragstad: added a bunch of documentation on the approach ^ afk time22:34
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