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| rderose | notmorgan: yeah, so definitely possible | 00:11 |
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| dulek | Hey! Can you tell me if "As of the Newton release, keystone supports two different approaches to upgrading across releases." means that I can upgrade Mitaka to Newton without downtime, or is it supported only since Newton->Ocata upgrade? | 08:51 |
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| murugesh | Hi There | 13:08 |
| murugesh | I have issue in keystone authentication with swift | 13:08 |
| murugesh | I am using openstack mitaka version | 13:09 |
| murugesh | i see the following error in /var/log/swift/swift.log | 13:09 |
| murugesh | proxy-server:Unable to validate token: Identity server rejected authorization necessary to fetch token data | 13:10 |
| murugesh | proxy-server: Identity server rejected authorization | 13:10 |
| murugesh | proxy-server: Identity response: {"error": {"message": "The request you have made requires authentication.", "code": 401, "title": "Unauthorized"}} | 13:10 |
| murugesh | can someone pls assist me on this ?? | 13:11 |
| dolphm | murugesh: check the service credentials that swift itself is using | 13:11 |
| murugesh | Where can i check this | 13:12 |
| murugesh | in /etc/swift/proxy-server.conf ?? | 13:13 |
| murugesh | dolpm, you there | 13:14 |
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| murugesh | dolphm, when i run "swift stat --debug" on keystone node i get the follwing | 13:15 |
| murugesh | http://paste.openstack.org/show/601926/ | 13:16 |
| dolphm | murugesh: your 503 is likely coming from a load balancer, not openstack | 13:19 |
| murugesh | so how can i proceed further ?? | 13:20 |
| dolphm | murugesh: find out why the load balancer is returning 503's? | 13:21 |
| murugesh | dolpm: i don't see any error in /var/log/haproxy.log which is my loadbalancer | 13:25 |
| murugesh | and what does it mean?? | 13:25 |
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| murugesh | proxy-server:Unable to validate token: Identity server rejected authorization necessary to fetch token data | 13:25 |
| murugesh | proxy-server: Identity server rejected authorization | 13:25 |
| murugesh | roxy-server: Identity response: {"error": {"message": "The request you have made requires authentication.", "code": 401, "title": "Unauthorized"}} | 13:26 |
| murugesh | This is from /var/log/swift/swift.log ^^ | 13:26 |
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| murugesh | Is somebody there?? | 13:49 |
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| lbragstad | gagehugo knikolla https://github.com/openstack/security-doc/blob/master/security-threat-analysis/source/threat-analysis-process.rst has some good information about next steps after (or even as we prepare the architecture stuff) | 14:28 |
| lbragstad | dulek the wording there is suppose to imply that keystone will support rolling upgrades moving forward | 14:29 |
| lbragstad | dulek as in you should be able to do a rolling upgrade from Newton -> Ocata and from Ocata -> Pike, so on and so forth | 14:30 |
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| dulek | lbragstad: Great, thanks! | 14:32 |
| dolphm | anyone know John Lin's nick? | 14:36 |
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| lbragstad | dulek we have an action item to get that fully tested this release | 14:47 |
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| dulek | lbragstad: Cool. I'm asking because I'm doing a presentation for OpenStack Day Poland about upgrades. Surprisingly it looks like O->P rolling upgrade will be supported by all of the services, which is great. :) | 14:50 |
| lbragstad | dulek nice! | 14:51 |
| dulek | (all of the old core services ;)) | 14:51 |
| lbragstad | dulek when is your presentation? | 14:51 |
| dulek | 22 march. I'm not sure if it will be recorded. | 14:52 |
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| lbragstad | dulek well - if it is, drop the link in here | 14:52 |
| lbragstad | i'd like to watch the recording :) | 14:52 |
| dulek | lbragstad: Sure thing! | 14:52 |
| dolphm | lbragstad: tried to reproduce the original fernet rotation + disk full bug here using the test approach taken in the patch merged to master, which resulted in a totally different behavior than what the bug described https://review.openstack.org/#/c/443158/1/keystone/tests/unit/token/test_fernet_provider.py | 14:52 |
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| lbragstad | dolphm minor nit - but does assertUnchangedRepositoryState seem to go against it's doc string? | 14:54 |
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| dolphm | lbragstad: oh yeah, i copied the other method and repurposed it | 14:56 |
| dolphm | lbragstad: updated | 14:57 |
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| lbragstad | dolphm cool - still reviewing | 15:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Anthony Washington proposed openstack/keystone master: Policy in code https://review.openstack.org/435609 | 15:09 |
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| lbragstad | dolphm how come we start seeing OSErrors *after* the first rotation? | 15:12 |
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| lbragstad | dolphm specifically line 672 - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/443158/1/keystone/tests/unit/token/test_fernet_provider.py ? | 15:13 |
| dolphm | lbragstad: i have no idea | 15:14 |
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| lbragstad | dolphm weird, that tells me something about keystone-manage fernet_rotate is dealing with state? | 15:15 |
| dolphm | lbragstad: well, the keys themselves are state | 15:15 |
| lbragstad | dolphm right - exception state? | 15:16 |
| dolphm | lbragstad: right now i'm trying to figure out how to cause a real IOError: [Errno 28] No space left on device | 15:16 |
| lbragstad | dolphm aren't you doing that with the mock on line 666 | 15:16 |
| * lbragstad thinks thats ironic because mocks are the devil! | 15:16 | |
| dolphm | lbragstad: not quite... real IOErrors have error numbers associated with them depending on the underlying cause | 15:17 |
| dolphm | lbragstad: the mock does not do that | 15:17 |
| dolphm | lbragstad: and i'm not sure the mock is raising the IOError at the right time -- it does it on .flush(), but i'm wondering if a real file system would do it elsewhere | 15:17 |
| lbragstad | dolphm but the side-effect you're setting of the mock should throw an IOError? | 15:17 |
| dolphm | lbragstad: that's what the original bug fix tested with | 15:19 |
| dolphm | lbragstad: so, the original bug description does not match the behavior being tested by the fix to the original bug | 15:20 |
| lbragstad | dolphm do you changes pass tests? | 15:20 |
| lbragstad | s/you/your/ | 15:21 |
| dolphm | lbragstad: yes | 15:21 |
| rderose | dstanek lbragstad: I want to clarify something from yesterday’s conversation | 15:21 |
| rderose | dstanek lbragstad: I’ve said that our data model supports account linking, but it really just models a user account. | 15:21 |
| dolphm | lbragstad: the question & answer here are well written to describe what could be going on behind the IOError https://stackoverflow.com/questions/1115203/sorting-disk-i-o-errors-in-python | 15:21 |
| rderose | dstanek lbragstad: Where we model a user: | 15:21 |
| rderose | local credentials | 15:21 |
| rderose | , ldap account | 15:21 |
| rderose | , federated profiles | 15:21 |
| rderose | dstanek lbragstad: user > local, ldap, federated and a client should be able to populate the model | 15:22 |
| rderose | dstanek lbragstad: And while you can associate a user to their federated profile, it’s not account linking. | 15:22 |
| rderose | dstanek lbragstad: Account linking would be more about having 2 user accounts (2 distinct user IDs), and then trying to link them together. | 15:23 |
| rderose | dstanek lbragstad: That is not what we are doing here with ravelar’s patch. | 15:23 |
| rderose | dstanek: so if we come up with a way to do account linking in the future, we won’t have multiple ways of doing it. | 15:23 |
| lbragstad | dolphm hmmm | 15:24 |
| lbragstad | dolphm interesting | 15:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Richard Avelar proposed openstack/keystone master: Policy in code https://review.openstack.org/435609 | 15:47 |
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| knikolla | o/ morning | 15:49 |
| gagehugo | knikolla o/ | 15:51 |
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| lbragstad | gagehugo knikolla o/ | 15:59 |
| lbragstad | ping antwash, raildo, ktychkova, dolphm, dstanek, rderose, htruta, atrmr, gagehugo, lamt, thinrichs, edmondsw, ruan, ayoung, ravelar, morgan, raj_singh, johnthetubaguy, knikolla | 16:00 |
| lbragstad | policy meeting happening now in #openstack-meeting-cp | 16:00 |
| knikolla | ayoung: btw, i think i'm pretty close with the tempest change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/441469/ | 16:03 |
| ayoung | knikolla, that makes me so happy! | 16:03 |
| ayoung | rodrigods, thanks for keeping on the review there, too | 16:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack/keystone master: Fix keystone.o.o URL https://review.openstack.org/443208 | 16:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kristi Nikolla proposed openstack/keystone master: Remove LDAP delete logic and associated tests https://review.openstack.org/424344 | 16:55 |
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| ayoung | HAve people been notified about talk acceptance/rejection yet? | 17:03 |
| rderose | ayoung: nope, I haven't | 17:05 |
| openstackgerrit | Gage Hugo proposed openstack/keystonemiddleware master: Remove old comment referencing fixed bug https://review.openstack.org/443235 | 17:05 |
| knikolla | ayoung: not that i know of | 17:05 |
| ayoung | would be nice to know before registration price increase... | 17:06 |
| gagehugo | I haven't heard anything yet :( | 17:06 |
| rderose | ayoung: I know, I thought we were supposed to hear on Monday | 17:06 |
| knikolla | probably too many proposals | 17:07 |
| knikolla | we have like 5-6 | 17:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kristi Nikolla proposed openstack/keystone master: Remove LDAP delete logic and associated tests https://review.openstack.org/424344 | 17:17 |
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| ayoung | knikolla, https://www.openstack.org/summit/boston-2017/call-for-presentations/ | 17:56 |
| ayoung | Looks at ours and tell me if you see what I see? | 17:56 |
| knikolla | ayoung: accepted | 17:57 |
| ayoung | Guess we better get to work! | 17:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Ian Cordasco proposed openstack/keystoneauth master: Allow users to specify request matchers in Betamax https://review.openstack.org/443254 | 17:57 |
| knikolla | ayoung: ack | 17:57 |
| ayoung | is that ack as short for Acknowledge, or ACK! Like Bill the Cat? | 17:57 |
| sigmavirus | lbragstad: ^ is another part =/ I think there may still be a problem with the pre-record hook that keystoneauth defaults in the fixture but *shrug* It's hard for me to determine what causes that and if it's the hook's fault or the API's fault | 17:57 |
| ayoung | rderose, which one was yours? | 17:58 |
| knikolla | ayoung: Acknowledge! I'll get to it. | 17:58 |
| rderose | ayoung: mine is on PCI | 17:59 |
| knikolla | ayoung: i'll have a look at the patches you've already done or wip, and then we'll sync up. | 17:59 |
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| ayoung | knikolla, OK, I have some tasks for my current project I need to knock out. And then we should co-locate (mid next week?) and crank out a proof of concept impl | 18:00 |
| knikolla | ayoung: sounds good. | 18:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Julien Lavesque proposed openstack/python-keystoneclient master: Fix UserManager.get prototype to include kwargs https://review.openstack.org/443257 | 18:09 |
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| knikolla | ayoung: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/441469/ still some tempest failures. :( | 18:27 |
| ayoung | knikolla, anything you need help with, or do you understand them? | 18:28 |
| knikolla | 2 tests only on master, but older releases seem to have more failures somehow. | 18:28 |
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| ayoung | Heh. Of course. | 18:28 |
| ayoung | Get the two on master, and we can see if there is a way to ignore doing this for older releases | 18:29 |
| knikolla | ayoung: i haven't started debugging yet. i'll update you. | 18:30 |
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| * sigmavirus determined the bug in the keystoneauth betamax fixture hook | 18:34 | |
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| openstackgerrit | Ian Cordasco proposed openstack/keystoneauth master: Prevent JSON decode errors in the pre-record hook https://review.openstack.org/443284 | 18:38 |
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| notmorgan | sigmavirus: nice | 19:03 |
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| sigmavirus | Thanks notmorgan | 19:08 |
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| lbragstad | sigmavirus is ^ that the last bit you need in keystoneauth for a release? | 19:35 |
| sigmavirus | yes lbragstad | 19:36 |
| lbragstad | sigmavirus sweet - i'll keep my eye on it and propose a release today | 19:36 |
| sigmavirus | Thanks lbragstad :) | 19:37 |
| notmorgan | sigmavirus: +2 btw. | 19:37 |
| sigmavirus | hopefully those make things better for all future users of the betamax fixture | 19:37 |
| sigmavirus | thanks notmorgan I saw that :) | 19:37 |
| notmorgan | lbragstad: i pre-emptively +A'd it. | 19:37 |
| notmorgan | it's test fixture | 19:38 |
| lbragstad | notmorgan sweet - i don't expect that to be an issue | 19:38 |
| notmorgan | exactly | 19:38 |
| sigmavirus | to be fair | 19:38 |
| sigmavirus | cratonclient appears to be the only potential consumer at this point | 19:38 |
| sigmavirus | shade isn't presently using it and might start again, but no one should be broken by this (in openstack) | 19:39 |
| notmorgan | yep. | 19:39 |
| knikolla | ayoung: i think this is the culprit for one of the failures https://github.com/openstack-dev/devstack/blob/7a30c7fcabac1cf28fd9baa39d05436680616aef/lib/keystone#L112 | 19:39 |
| notmorgan | and it doesn't break any contracts | 19:39 |
| notmorgan | so... | 19:39 |
| notmorgan | easy approbal | 19:39 |
| notmorgan | approval* | 19:39 |
| ayoung | knikolla, looks like it... | 19:39 |
| knikolla | ayoung: http://logs.openstack.org/69/441469/5/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full-ubuntu-xenial/1ab7887/logs/screen-n-api.txt.gz#_2017-03-08_17_21_09_444 | 19:40 |
| knikolla | but we are not enforcing is_admin yet. so i'm confused | 19:41 |
| knikolla | err, admin_project | 19:41 |
| notmorgan | sigmavirus: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/443254/1 does that need to land too? | 19:43 |
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| notmorgan | mordred: i might remove PBR from keystoneauth - it is a pretty heavy requirement all said and done esp with the breakages we had in the major versions. | 19:45 |
| notmorgan | mordred: just FYI. | 19:45 |
| notmorgan | mordred: honestly, I'd also like to drop stevedore if we could :P. | 19:46 |
| notmorgan | i'd like to get keystoneauth down to exactly 1 dependency... Requests (for runtime) | 19:47 |
| mordred | notmorgan: please do not remove pbr | 19:50 |
| mordred | notmorgan: it is a hard requirement of all openstack python projects | 19:50 |
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| notmorgan | mordred: this makes me sad. | 19:51 |
| mordred | there are a number of systems that depend on features it provides | 19:51 |
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| notmorgan | like seriously sad. | 19:51 |
| notmorgan | i'm serious, ksa should depend on exactly 1 thing. | 19:52 |
| notmorgan | requests | 19:52 |
| * notmorgan wants to rip stevedore and positional out of ksa as well. | 19:52 | |
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| notmorgan | it's not the build-time bit that bothers me, its the runtime requirement of pbr | 19:53 |
| notmorgan | so it's not PBR itself. | 19:53 |
| mordred | oh - that I don't care about at al | 19:53 |
| notmorgan | i want to make it so KSA doesn't need PBR to run. | 19:53 |
| mordred | if you want to ditch the runtime version reporting, *shrug* | 19:53 |
| notmorgan | yes. | 19:53 |
| notmorgan | sorry wasn't clear there | 19:53 |
| notmorgan | :) | 19:53 |
| mordred | k. dude | 19:53 |
| mordred | I was about to have to be like 'jesus' | 19:53 |
| notmorgan | it def. isn't about the build stuff. | 19:53 |
| notmorgan | it's a whole lot about how can we eliminate more stuff pulled in by ksa that could make running it universally harder | 19:54 |
| mordred | notmorgan: problem is, to do that, you'll have problems with the __version__ field in __init__.py | 19:54 |
| notmorgan | i'll poke around with that | 19:54 |
| mordred | can you tell me more about issues that you've had with it that the runtime depend is causing trouble with? | 19:54 |
| notmorgan | yeah, it's just more dep-solve issues | 19:55 |
| notmorgan | in non-openstack environemtns | 19:55 |
| notmorgan | non-openstack specific stuff | 19:55 |
| notmorgan | i tried to use ksa in an older build of some things. | 19:55 |
| notmorgan | and PBR made me slam my head on the desk. | 19:55 |
| notmorgan | it was a really big venv | 19:56 |
| notmorgan | but it made me realize i want to pull out a few more runtime deps on ksa | 19:56 |
| notmorgan | i was trying to get an ancient version of openstack + a custom tool to work w/ ksa and newer keystone | 19:56 |
| notmorgan | trying to prove out some stability things in keystone. | 19:57 |
| notmorgan | but that just comes down to not super important - it's going to be a side-project-thing i'l poke at when not cleaning up more shade tests | 19:58 |
| notmorgan | ran into it this last weekend. | 19:58 |
| sigmavirus | notmorgan: sorry, 443254 would be a nice-to-have | 19:58 |
| mordred | ah. yeah. that's not going to work well due to old openstack having caps in their requirements | 19:58 |
| notmorgan | mordred: exactly. | 19:58 |
| mordred | notmorgan: those caps aren't actually important - but they exist in history | 19:58 |
| notmorgan | and unwinding it is a pain in the butt | 19:58 |
| mordred | notmorgan: like, if you just remove them / force-install the code will all work | 19:58 |
| notmorgan | but it highlights ksa has a gap in usefulness. | 19:59 |
| mordred | notmorgan: so - perhaps just remove the runtime depend and then wrap the __version__ in a try/except ImportError | 19:59 |
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| notmorgan | that is my thought, i need to consider that change before proposing it | 20:00 |
| notmorgan | since... ksa contract. | 20:00 |
| mordred | yah. I think as long as the except case has a __version__ the number of people it should break should be very very low | 20:00 |
| mordred | but yes to thinking it through | 20:00 |
| * notmorgan wishes we could stop supporting python2 :P | 20:01 | |
| notmorgan | it would clean up openstack a lot :P | 20:01 |
| notmorgan | anyway... going back to test refactoring | 20:02 |
| notmorgan | i have another 60-80 tests to fix today | 20:02 |
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| sigmavirus | notmorgan: not supporting Python 2 would clean up *so* many projects | 20:10 |
| sigmavirus | Requests, Betamax, Flake8, Pyflakes, pycodestyle, pydocstyle, OpenStack, Django | 20:11 |
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| mordred | ++ | 20:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Brant Knudson proposed openstack/keystoneauth master: Remove unused test requirement pycrypto https://review.openstack.org/443318 | 20:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/keystoneauth master: Update test requirement https://review.openstack.org/440236 | 20:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Lance Bragstad proposed openstack/keystone master: Add in-code comment to clarify pattern in tests https://review.openstack.org/441187 | 20:56 |
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| dolphm | sigmavirus: not supporting py3 would have the same outcome ;) | 20:58 |
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| dstanek | dolphm: except it would also be like shooting ourselves in the face | 21:07 |
| notmorgan | dstanek: who doesn't like shooting themselves in the face? | 21:08 |
| lbragstad | notmorgan wanna kick this through - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/442283/1 ? | 21:14 |
| * dstanek raises a hand | 21:18 | |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/keystoneauth master: Add an allow_version_hack flag to session and identity plugins. https://review.openstack.org/438788 | 21:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/keystoneauth master: Prevent JSON decode errors in the pre-record hook https://review.openstack.org/443284 | 21:27 |
| notmorgan | mmm, my carbonsteel pan is almost completely black with polymerized oil. | 21:29 |
| notmorgan | love when i can cook sticky things like eggs and they don't stick, as good/better than actual "non-stick" pans | 21:30 |
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| dolphm | the *original* non-stick pan | 21:30 |
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| notmorgan | dolphm: hehe | 21:32 |
| notmorgan | dolphm: right?! | 21:32 |
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| notmorgan | not as good as my mom's cast iron griddle with 30yrs of seasoning on it | 21:33 |
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| lbragstad | if people knew how many videos i have on my phone of cooking eggs that slide around freely in cast iron - i would probably be considered really weird | 21:35 |
| notmorgan | i <3 carbon steel over cast iron for skillets | 21:36 |
| notmorgan | because it weighs a bit less | 21:36 |
| notmorgan | easier to move around when using the larger pans. | 21:36 |
| dolphm | new black card: "If people knew how many videos i have on my phone of _____ that _____ - I would probably be considered really weird." | 21:37 |
| lbragstad | ++ | 21:37 |
| notmorgan | dolphm: ++ | 21:38 |
| notmorgan | though i did set of the smoke detector just now... | 21:38 |
| notmorgan | on two floors. | 21:38 |
| notmorgan | hazards of kitchen being on the bottom floor | 21:38 |
| lbragstad | lol - thats one way to do it ;) | 21:39 |
| dolphm | this is why i have a burner outside too | 21:39 |
| notmorgan | the hood isn't good enough to vent smoke all the time | 21:39 |
| notmorgan | so sometimes seasoning/reseasoning overloads it even with a super thin layer of oil | 21:39 |
| notmorgan | the hood needs to be about 2x the size | 21:40 |
| lbragstad | notmorgan you season on your stovetop? | 21:40 |
| notmorgan | only when finishing after cooking | 21:40 |
| lbragstad | oh | 21:40 |
| notmorgan | if i'm doing a full re-season on more in depth, in oven | 21:40 |
| lbragstad | my dad seasons all his cast iron like that | 21:41 |
| notmorgan | though my large pan doesn't fit in the oven | 21:41 |
| lbragstad | but he has a commercial range | 21:41 |
| notmorgan | so, i have to do it on the stove-top... and the burner(s) are not big enough | 21:41 |
| notmorgan | can't get even 550F+ heat across the whole pan | 21:41 |
| notmorgan | i can't wait to buy a house so i can put the "right" range and hood in. | 21:42 |
| notmorgan | yes that is the biggest reason i want to own a place. | 21:42 |
| lbragstad | totally valid | 21:42 |
| * notmorgan has to budget ~$25k for stove, hood, and refridgerator | 21:42 | |
| notmorgan | lbragstad: going to put wolf range and hood in :) and a subzero (not-in-cabinet form) refrigerator in | 21:43 |
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| lbragstad | notmorgan you planning on doing a lot of cooking?! | 21:43 |
| notmorgan | lbragstad: every meal | 21:43 |
| notmorgan | working on making everything from scratch. it's so much fun to do... and things taste a ton better imo | 21:44 |
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| lbragstad | i'd like to have a place for all my cast iron - right now we store it all in the oven | 21:45 |
| notmorgan | working on making the barley malt next so I have it for bread making | 21:45 |
| notmorgan | lbragstad: get a hanging pot rack | 21:45 |
| notmorgan | it makes life so much better | 21:45 |
| lbragstad | notmorgan that would be idea - when we move out, i'm sure we'll consider it | 21:45 |
| * notmorgan nods. | 21:45 | |
| notmorgan | i've had them at the last two places... makes all the difference | 21:46 |
| dolphm | notmorgan: ++ | 21:46 |
| notmorgan | unfortunately, my current place i had to get a much smaller hanging pot rack | 21:46 |
| dolphm | notmorgan: we just started doing curbside pickup for groceries, and it makes cooking *everything* so much easier | 21:47 |
| notmorgan | it really only holds 7 pans and the flat pan/pot universal lids | 21:47 |
| notmorgan | dolphm: did i show you these things: http://www.williams-sonoma.com/products/all-clad-tk-d5-brushed-stainless-steel-universal-lid/ | 21:47 |
| notmorgan | dolphm: they are *amazing* to cook with | 21:47 |
| notmorgan | lbragstad: ^ | 21:47 |
| dolphm | no, what the hell is that | 21:49 |
| dolphm | "These universal lids come in three different sizes" | 21:49 |
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| notmorgan | they are basically lids for stove-top cooking, they have 3 disc sizes for different pan sizes | 21:50 |
| notmorgan | but they are super awesome to cook with, easy, since the handles are on them and they are super easy to clean too. | 21:50 |
| notmorgan | and they hang on my pot rack, a lot less space taken up | 21:51 |
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| notmorgan | i'm guessing you could also use them in the oven if you needed. but *shrug* | 21:51 |
| dolphm | notmorgan: i don't have too many lids, but they're all on my pot rack too | 21:51 |
| notmorgan | the real win with these is it's easy to partially cover among other bits like not needing to worry how you tilt it to avoid steam hitting your hand. | 21:53 |
| notmorgan | but they were less than $100 for all three when i got them | 21:53 |
| notmorgan | they fit every pot/pan I have. :) | 21:53 |
| lbragstad | i'd like to get a lib for my 12" cast iron skillet | 21:53 |
| lbragstad | lid* | 21:53 |
| * notmorgan likes that -keystone randomly becomes "cooking discussion" | 21:54 | |
| dolphm | notmorgan: +1 | 21:54 |
| notmorgan | s/randomly/not-so-randomly/ | 21:54 |
| notmorgan | :) | 21:54 |
| dolphm | lbragstad: the lid from my cast iron dutch oven fits my lodge skillet perfectly :) | 21:54 |
| notmorgan | dolphm: oh nice. | 21:54 |
| notmorgan | dolphm: i need to get a larger non-enameled cast-iron dutch oven | 21:55 |
| lbragstad | dolphm yeah - that's exactly what i use for my smaller dutch oven and my 10" | 21:55 |
| notmorgan | i have a 4qt lodge one. but my 7qt one is enameled | 21:55 |
| notmorgan | =/ | 21:55 |
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| notmorgan | also http://www.williams-sonoma.com/products/williams-sonoma-glass-canister/?pkey=chomekeeping-canisters&&chomekeeping-canisters is awesome for coffee storage | 21:57 |
| notmorgan | (and other similar dry-storage stuff) | 21:57 |
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| notmorgan | nice | 22:12 |
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