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| xiaoyang | Hi, what's the meaning of 'pip install .[ldap,memcache,mongodb]'? Running the UT times error: 'no module named six' | 01:19 |
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| jamielennox | xiaoyang: pip has optional packages, so that's saying install the package in local directory - and include all the dependencies you need for using ldap, memcache and mongodb | 02:21 |
| jamielennox | but six is not an optional dependency, so something is wrong with your pip environment | 02:22 |
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| xiaoyang | jamielennox: thx. And, how do I add six to the option? | 02:26 |
| jamielennox | xiaoyang: six is already a dependency of keystone, it's required even without the [...] optios | 02:27 |
| jamielennox | i think your pip itself is broken | 02:27 |
| jamielennox | try just doing pip install six and see if it works | 02:28 |
| jamielennox | and then i'd try recreating the virtualenv with recent pip | 02:28 |
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| xiaoyang | this command is not work '.tox/py27/bin/pip install -c https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/requirements/plain/upper-constraints.txt?h=stable/mitaka -r /root/keystone/test-requirements.txt .[ldap,memcache,mongodb]'. error: no module named six. | 02:31 |
| jamielennox | xiaoyang: i don't think this is keystone's fault, try rebuilding the tox envs? | 02:33 |
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| xiaoyang | yeah, I agree with you. This is 'pip install .[]'`s error. I tried to rebuilding the tox envs. Install test-requirements.txt then install .[ldap,memcache,mongodb] is ok. | 02:39 |
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| jamielennox | xiaoyang: looks like you hit: https://github.com/pypa/setuptools/issues/1042 | 08:23 |
| jamielennox | i imagine -infra is working pretty hard on this, but fixed upstream | 08:23 |
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| xiaoyang | jamielennox:this is setuptools version error,need <35 >36. thank you. | 08:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/keystone master: Support new hashing algorithms for securely storing password hashes https://review.openstack.org/438701 | 12:20 |
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| Dinesh_Bhor | lbragstad: Hi, it will be great if you take a look at it and give some inputs: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/329913/ | 12:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack/keystoneauth master: Rename discover_versions to fetch_version_info https://review.openstack.org/470275 | 12:55 |
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| * cmurphy waves to mordred | 13:00 | |
| * mordred waves to cmurphy | 13:00 | |
| cmurphy | mordred: with the keystone spec freeze coming up do you need/want any kind of help with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/450415/ ? it has a decent amount of feedback | 13:01 |
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| mordred | cmurphy: I was just working through it now actually - thanks for the great feedback btw! | 13:53 |
| mordred | cmurphy: also, don't know if you saw, but I've got a stack up implementing most of it (from which I learned a few things I'm also incorporating into the next rev) | 13:53 |
| cmurphy | mordred: oh I don't think I noticed that, I'll take a look | 13:54 |
| mordred | specifically some paths where we should optimize earlier | 13:54 |
| mordred | cmurphy: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/keystoneauth+branch:master+topic:version-discovery | 13:54 |
| cmurphy | mordred: i've seen the version discovery patches (haven't dug into them yet) but i was more wondering about the api keys spec | 13:55 |
| mordred | cmurphy: OHHHHHH | 13:59 |
| mordred | cmurphy: duh | 13:59 |
| mordred | cmurphy: when is the spec freeze? and oh wow, yeah - there's a bunch of good feedback on that. lemme read through it real quick but then yeah, I may want some help :) | 14:00 |
| cmurphy | mordred: end of next week if i read https://releases.openstack.org/pike/schedule.html correctly | 14:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Samuel Pilla proposed openstack/keystone master: WIP: Add project tags https://review.openstack.org/470317 | 14:53 |
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| knikolla | o/ | 16:08 |
| gagehugo | o/ | 16:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/keystone master: Update doctor warning about caching https://review.openstack.org/468394 | 16:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Gage Hugo proposed openstack/keystone master: Rename assertRaisesRegexp testing function https://review.openstack.org/470360 | 16:22 |
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| cmurphy | gagehugo: i tried just deleting the assertRaisesRegexp function and things still work for python2.7 and 3 | 16:44 |
| cmurphy | i don't think we still need it to work on 2.6 | 16:44 |
| samueldmq | cmurphy: ++ | 16:50 |
| samueldmq | hi all | 16:50 |
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| lbragstad | gyee: +1 on your suggestion here - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/464763/ | 17:00 |
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| lbragstad | gyee: i'll swing over to openstack-security at some point today and see if i can get someone to weigh in | 17:00 |
| lbragstad | gyee: do you want me to ping you before i have that conversation? | 17:00 |
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| gyee | lbragstad: requiring a different scope in order to get the global roles is going to turn off a lot of clients | 17:13 |
| gyee | we learned that lesson with domain-scope tokens | 17:13 |
| lbragstad | gyee: i don't disagree with that - i defaulted to it based on the security concerns brought up in a discussion with edmondsw | 17:14 |
| lbragstad | gyee: if we can mitigate those concerns, or if they aren't concerns at all, i'll be happy to rework the spec | 17:14 |
| lbragstad | gyee: totally agree we need security focus on that bit though | 17:14 |
| gyee | that's a fine line between security and usability, and we don't want to overstep it | 17:15 |
| edmondsw | "global" is a scope... if you want global access, there's no way around that which isn't a bug | 17:15 |
| edmondsw | gyee I think you may have learned the wrong lessons from the domain-scope tokens history | 17:16 |
| gyee | my favorite quote “The only truly secure system is one that is powered off, cast in a block of concrete and sealed in a lead-lined room with armed guards.” | 17:17 |
| edmondsw | poor implementation/communication are behind the domain-scope usability issues | 17:17 |
| edmondsw | gyee even then :) | 17:17 |
| gyee | I see no difference between global roles and token-with-subset-of-roles proposal if we have to explicit scope | 17:18 |
| gyee | think about the clients will have to joggles with different tokens | 17:18 |
| gyee | that places a lot of complexity at the end user's hands, where all they want is simplicity | 17:18 |
| gyee | complexity/flexibility should be at the operator side | 17:19 |
| edmondsw | gyee I don't see a relationship between global role and token-with-subset-of-roles... how can you see no difference? | 17:20 |
| gyee | both require the users to check the right token | 17:20 |
| gyee | s/check/choose | 17:21 |
| edmondsw | gyee as for juggling tokens... I don't see why you'd need to juggle tokens if we add global roles, either... maybe making different assumptions than I am? | 17:21 |
| edmondsw | gyee "check the right token"? | 17:21 |
| gyee | you need to scope to "global" don't you? | 17:21 |
| edmondsw | to... ? | 17:21 |
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| gyee | you need to scope your token to "global" | 17:22 |
| edmondsw | to do what? | 17:22 |
| gyee | as oppose to unscoped, project, or domain | 17:22 |
| edmondsw | to do what? | 17:22 |
| gyee | to get the global roles | 17:22 |
| edmondsw | and then... do what? | 17:22 |
| gyee | to do whatever global roles allow you to do | 17:23 |
| edmondsw | if you want to operate on the system globally, then yes, of course you need a globally-scoped token | 17:23 |
| edmondsw | but in that case you don't need any other type of token, so there's no juggling | 17:23 |
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| gyee | how does end users know they need to operate at the global scope | 17:24 |
| edmondsw | if you want to operate in a project scope, then get a project-scoped token. And in that case there's no need for a global-scope token, so no juggling | 17:24 |
| edmondsw | gyee users already have to know what resources are scoped to, so there's no new knowledge requirement about that | 17:25 |
| lbragstad | i think part of this is going to require users knowing the difference between project level operations and global operations | 17:25 |
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| lbragstad | it'd be great to figure that out programatically | 17:26 |
| edmondsw | e.g. users already know that hosts are shared across all projects, i.e. global | 17:26 |
| edmondsw | they know when they share an image across all projects | 17:27 |
| edmondsw | etc. | 17:27 |
| gyee | images are not always shared right? | 17:28 |
| gyee | there are public and private images | 17:28 |
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| edmondsw | gyee right | 17:28 |
| edmondsw | that's why I said "when" | 17:29 |
| gyee | imagine you are implementing a UI or using CLI | 17:29 |
| edmondsw | that's 2 very different use cases, but ok | 17:29 |
| gyee | from UI, you get an access denied when trying to do something, then you scratch your head thinking, WTF do I need to do now? :-) | 17:31 |
| gyee | oh, I need call my admin to find out which token I should be using | 17:32 |
| edmondsw | gyee what? of course not | 17:32 |
| edmondsw | UI users don't even know about tokens... | 17:32 |
| edmondsw | neither do CLI users | 17:33 |
| edmondsw | only API users | 17:33 |
| edmondsw | and yes, using the API requires more knowledge than UI or CLI... nothing new there | 17:34 |
| gyee | that was my point, you are asking them to joggle with different tokens | 17:34 |
| edmondsw | gyee no, I'm not... | 17:34 |
| edmondsw | and I can't figure out why you think I am... | 17:34 |
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| gyee | sorry, I meant we, the spec | 17:35 |
| edmondsw | gyee which one? | 17:35 |
| gyee | global roles | 17:35 |
| edmondsw | link? | 17:36 |
| edmondsw | I didn't realize we had a spec up yet | 17:36 |
| lbragstad | edmondsw: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/464763/ | 17:36 |
| edmondsw | lbragstad tx... added myself | 17:37 |
| edmondsw | I have to go eat before my stomach consumes itself... | 17:37 |
| lbragstad | edmondsw: i'm in the same boat | 17:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Gage Hugo proposed openstack/keystone master: Remove assertRaisesRegexp testing function https://review.openstack.org/470360 | 17:42 |
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| samueldmq | lbragstad: edmondsw any of you around? | 19:18 |
| lbragstad | i am | 19:19 |
| samueldmq | lbragstad: so, sjain and I were taking about our docs and had some thoughts | 19:19 |
| samueldmq | would like to chat to you if you are available | 19:20 |
| samueldmq | lbragstad: main idea was to split our docs into 4 categories | 19:21 |
| samueldmq | 2) User docs (we really mean user of our apis, e.g app writers) | 19:21 |
| samueldmq | 3) Operator docs (how do we deploy? etc) | 19:22 |
| samueldmq | 4) Developer docs (How do I write code/docs? how to submit to review? what is a RN?) | 19:22 |
| samueldmq | and 1) Getting started, which includes useful information for 2,3,4, such as identity concepts (roles, users, etc), keystone architecture | 19:23 |
| lbragstad | cc asettle ^ | 19:23 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/keystone master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/470099 | 19:24 |
| samueldmq | I guess this would make our docs easier to read, and a person can find docs easier depending on the audience they belong to | 19:24 |
| lbragstad | samueldmq: yeah - that sounds oddly familiar to the current thread on the mailing list http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-May/117162.html | 19:24 |
| lbragstad | samueldmq: i'm not sure if you've been following that thread ^ | 19:25 |
| samueldmq | lbragstad: not completely, I am catching up, thanks | 19:26 |
| lbragstad | samueldmq: there are a couple proposals for docs maintenance in that thread that will more than likely impact us | 19:27 |
| samueldmq | lbragstad: yes, but the proposal I was talking about above is to how we organize our docs | 19:36 |
| samueldmq | like the structure | 19:37 |
| samueldmq | if we end up migrating all docs from https://github.com/openstack/openstack-manuals/tree/master/doc to our tree | 19:37 |
| samueldmq | great, we will find a place for them under one of admin/user/dev sections (depending on their audiences) | 19:37 |
| samueldmq | if not, they will still have a place there (as they will be referenced anyways) | 19:37 |
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| samueldmq | lbragstad: I will try to put a patch up to see what it looks like | 19:38 |
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| samueldmq | and when I say split in 4 categories | 19:42 |
| samueldmq | that's just the way they'll be organized and appear in the main index page that is https://docs.openstack.org/developer/keystone/ | 19:42 |
| samueldmq | brb | 19:42 |
| lbragstad | samueldmq: ah - i see what you mean | 19:49 |
| lbragstad | (i think) | 19:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Nicolas Helgeson proposed openstack/keystone master: Added versions to keyston headers https://review.openstack.org/468189 | 20:03 |
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| edmondsw | samueldmq I've always thought it was confusing that that url has "developer" right in it, but people put things in there that aren't just for developers | 20:13 |
| edmondsw | If they're called developer docs, they should just be developer docs, no? | 20:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jaewoo Park proposed openstack/keystone master: Brush up X-Subject-Token to prevent keystone curl from failing using awk commands https://review.openstack.org/470425 | 20:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jaewoo Park proposed openstack/keystone master: Brush up X-Subject-Token to prevent keystone curl from failing with awk https://review.openstack.org/470425 | 20:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/keystone master: Remove assertRaisesRegexp testing function https://review.openstack.org/470360 | 20:42 |
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| lbragstad | this is neat - https://gist.github.com/lbragstad/935d8c771bbfb57237349496e601f7ad | 20:49 |
| lbragstad | incase anyone knows of someone wanting to move to fernet but doesn't want to sacrifice downtime while switching token providers | 20:49 |
| lbragstad | it allows operators to specify `[token] provider = uuid` then `[token] provider = hybrid_uuid` then `[token] provider = hybrid_fernet` then `[token] provider = fernet` | 20:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/oslo.policy master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/470532 | 22:05 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/python-keystoneclient master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/470140 | 22:06 |
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