Friday, 2017-09-22

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knikollaaahh: not by id. they are autogenerated01:04
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openstackgerritwanghongtaozz proposed openstack/keystone master: Fix typos  https://review.openstack.org/50645402:24
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MalcomX56AN IRCD DESIGNED FOR REAL NIGGAS (NOT COON ASS NIGGAS)03:10
MalcomX56YOU MAY ASK IS THIS IRCD FOR YOU? ANSWER THE QUESTIONS BELOW03:10
MalcomX56DO YOU BLAME THE WHITE MAN FOR EVERYTHING?03:10
MalcomX56DOES THE THOUGHT OF WORK CAUSE TERROR IN YOUR HEART?03:10
MalcomX56DO YOU NOT GIVE TWO SHITS IF BLACKS ARE CALLED BY THE THOUSANDS03:10
MalcomX56FROM OTHER BLACKS BUT IF A FEW GET KILLED BY WHITES YOU WANT TO03:10
MalcomX56BURN A CITY??03:10
MalcomX56DO YOU LIKE TO HAVE BABIES AND LEAVE THEM??03:10
MalcomX56IF YOU ANSWERED YES TO ALL THOSE QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT BE A REAL03:10
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jamielennoxlol04:45
jamielennoxthat's the weirdest i've seen04:45
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yglhi all12:55
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yglis there anyone here who can guide me with ldap related keystone issues ?12:55
yglis there anyone here who can guide me with ldap related keystone issues ?12:57
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* lbragstad is *almost* done traveling14:00
lbragstadcmurphy: you make it back to germany ok?14:00
cmurphylbragstad: ya, got back wednesday morning14:01
cmurphyback on the road on sunday though :/14:01
lbragstadcmurphy: oh?14:01
cmurphysusecon in prague14:01
lbragstadhow far is that?14:03
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cmurphya few hours by bus14:03
cmurphyrelatively easy trip :)14:03
lbragstadgood deal14:05
lbragstadno need to pile on more get lag then14:05
cmurphylbragstad: what are you traveling for?14:05
lbragstadorientation14:06
lbragstadi've been in santa clara all week14:06
cmurphynice14:06
lbragstadgot to go home for a couple days over the weekend for a friends wedding14:06
lbragstadthen few back to denver to get to SJC :)14:07
ayoungcmurphy, thanks for putting the section in about the removal of RBAC in middleware. I missed that in previous write ups.14:16
ayounglbragstad, cmurphy if you do remove that, here is my challenge to you:14:17
ayoungHow should keystone solve the problems of distributed delegation and authenticated across multiple services?  Especially when the delegation decisions need to be performed far in advance of the requested operation.14:18
ayoungHow do you make it so, when a delegate requests access to a resource, you do not need to give them more privileged than they need to perform the operation in question?14:18
ayoungJust removing the RBAC in middleware specs says "we are not going to attempt to solve those problems"14:19
ayoungand in doing so, you are not providing the service that Keystone is uniquely situated to provide14:19
ayoungand that indicates why you were not able to come up with a mission statement;  you do not understand what Keystone needs to be doing.14:20
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lbragstadi gotta hop on a plane quick - but i'll catch scroll back14:20
ayoungI think that is an artifact of dealing with the day-to-day of development without getting the requests for longer term vision.14:20
openstackgerritMerged openstack/python-keystoneclient master: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/50002414:21
openstackgerritLance Bragstad proposed openstack/keystone master: Remove v2.0 auth APIs  https://review.openstack.org/50446514:21
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/keystoneauth master: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/50266014:26
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cmurphyayoung: I admit that I don't have that vision and unfortunately no one in the room at the time was able to give me clarification of that vision when I asked. I don't think the spec does a great job of communicating it either, it might have been helpful to have more details and background information in the problem description.14:41
ayoungcmurphy, it is the single longest spec ever written.  I tried.14:42
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ayoungcmurphy, lets start with a simple question:  how does a user know what role they need in order to perform an operation?14:43
ayoungbefore answering....think Why this is the first question.14:47
cmurphyayoung: I'm not the right person to get into this with, I wasn't part of the group attending the policy meetings regularly. I took notes in the room and I hoped to capture the discussion accurately but I don't have a dog in this race.14:50
ayoungcmurphy, you are core.  You are, if you pardon the expression, one of the dogs.  We're all mutts here.  But I won;t beat you up over it.14:50
openstackgerritThomas Duval proposed openstack/oslo.policy master: Modification to add additional information in the HTTPCheck request.  https://review.openstack.org/49846714:52
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openstackgerritGage Hugo proposed openstack/keystoneauth master: Correct docs usage of keystoneauth1 session  https://review.openstack.org/50319315:06
gagehugocmurphy thanks15:07
gagehugoI think I'm mentally trying to start the weekend a day early15:08
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cmurphygagehugo: i'm getting ready to turn off my brain for the weekend too :)15:12
cmurphymordred: efried hey so we broke keystonemiddleware https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystoneauth/+bug/171894515:12
openstackLaunchpad bug 1718945 in keystoneauth "keystoneauth 3.2.0 broke keystonemiddleware tests" [Undecided,New]15:12
cmurphytrying to work out whether we are just incorrectly mocking things in ksm or if ksa actually broke15:13
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mordredcmurphy: wow - maybe we should have a gate job that tests ksm and ksa together ...15:14
cmurphymordred: ya15:14
knikollao/15:22
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/keystone master: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/50265916:03
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openstackgerritGage Hugo proposed openstack/keystone master: Migrate to stestr  https://review.openstack.org/50444216:08
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kmallocmordred: oh that might be useful... or something16:26
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cfriesenwe just had a case where nova took an error trying to connect to keystone, we see "ConnectTimeout: Request to http://192.168.204.2:9696/v2.0/ports/4142b45c-e39f-4fb7-84e5-46f041ffac5c.json timed out" and then "Connection pool is full, discarding connection: 192.168.204.2".   This is while deleting a whole bunch of instances.  Is this a resource issue in keystone--do we need to let it have more connections or something?17:01
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openstackgerritLance Bragstad proposed openstack/keystone master: Remove v2.0 auth APIs  https://review.openstack.org/50446518:42
openstackgerritLance Bragstad proposed openstack/keystone master: Remove v2.0 test plumbing  https://review.openstack.org/50674818:42
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rodrigodslbragstad, around? would be nice to have your +1 at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/492223/ :)18:46
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lbragstadrodrigods: done18:52
rodrigodsthanks lbragstad!18:52
lbragstadrodrigods: thanks for the ping - i should be done traveling for a bit after today, so i'll be more available18:52
rodrigodslbragstad, cool, thanks for the heads up18:53
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openstackgerritLance Bragstad proposed openstack/keystone master: Remove v2.0 identity APIs  https://review.openstack.org/49978319:08
openstackgerritLance Bragstad proposed openstack/keystone master: Remove v2.0 token APIs  https://review.openstack.org/49978419:08
openstackgerritLance Bragstad proposed openstack/keystone master: Remove v2.0 auth APIs  https://review.openstack.org/50446519:09
openstackgerritLance Bragstad proposed openstack/keystone master: Remove v2.0 test plumbing  https://review.openstack.org/50674819:09
openstackgerritLance Bragstad proposed openstack/keystone master: Remove v2.0 identity APIs  https://review.openstack.org/49978319:16
openstackgerritLance Bragstad proposed openstack/keystone master: Remove v2.0 token APIs  https://review.openstack.org/49978419:16
openstackgerritLance Bragstad proposed openstack/keystone master: Remove v2.0 auth APIs  https://review.openstack.org/50446519:16
openstackgerritLance Bragstad proposed openstack/keystone master: Remove v2.0 test plumbing  https://review.openstack.org/50674819:16
gagehugooh my19:16
lbragstadoh yes19:18
samueldmqlbragstad: o/19:21
samueldmqlbragstad: why didn't it like the previous version of that stack?19:21
lbragstadit needed another depends on against devstack so that it didn't test v2.019:22
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kmallochm.19:52
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openstackgerritMonty Taylor proposed openstack/keystoneauth master: Split request logging into four different loggers  https://review.openstack.org/50576421:16
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openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo.policy master: Modification to add additional information in the HTTPCheck request.  https://review.openstack.org/49846721:39
openstackgerritDoug Hellmann proposed openstack/oslo.policy master: make it easier to reuse the invocation logic for check objects  https://review.openstack.org/50678521:39
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/keystoneauth master: Correct docs usage of keystoneauth1 session  https://review.openstack.org/50319322:29
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