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| lbragstad | wxy: i'm about 20 failing tests away from getting https://review.openstack.org/#/c/545450/3 to pass | 13:34 |
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| cmurphy | lol | 13:34 |
| cmurphy | only 20 failing tests to rewrite keystone? we might not have enough test coverage ;) | 13:34 |
| lbragstad | hah | 13:35 |
| lbragstad | shhh | 13:35 |
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| lbragstad | we have some stuff that's really nested in the token provider API | 13:53 |
| lbragstad | if statements _everywhere_ | 13:53 |
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| knikolla | o/ | 14:06 |
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| lbragstad | well - once https://review.openstack.org/#/c/551493/3 starts passing | 14:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lance Bragstad proposed openstack/keystone master: WIP: rewrite keystone https://review.openstack.org/545450 | 15:29 |
| lbragstad | ok - ^ passes tests for me locally | 15:29 |
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| lbragstad | that's probaby only of the most frustrating refactors i've ever attempted | 15:29 |
| lbragstad | s/only/one/ | 15:30 |
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| cmurphy | app creds talk accepted https://www.openstack.org/summit/vancouver-2018/summit-schedule/events/20836/enabling-cloud-native-applications-with-application-credentials-in-keystone | 16:22 |
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| lbragstad | cmurphy: nice! | 17:08 |
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| lbragstad | proposed the rocky deadlines we talked about during the PTG retrospective - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/553502/ | 17:31 |
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| exarr | Hi all. So, I realise I had set all my endpoints for keystone auth to port 35357 (public, internal, admin). | 19:40 |
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| exarr | What affect would this have? As everything was working fine, and all I find is that 35357 is the "admin" port. Whatever that means :-/ | 19:40 |
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| kmalloc | exarr: in v3 keystone api, there is no difference between admin/public | 19:41 |
| kmalloc | exarr: admin/public was largely historical from early days (v2 keystone api) | 19:41 |
| exarr | kmalloc: Ahh. So it's just supporting both ports for backwards-compatibility? | 19:42 |
| kmalloc | i recommend moving to HTTP[s] (port 80/443) instead | 19:42 |
| kmalloc | port 35357 has issues, it is in the default ephemeral port range of linux | 19:42 |
| exarr | kmalloc: Very good point actually! | 19:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Lance Bragstad proposed openstack/keystone master: Add logging for xmlsec1 installation https://review.openstack.org/553592 | 19:43 |
| kmalloc | it's an issue between linux and IANA, our solution: use standard http(s) ports | 19:43 |
| kmalloc | :) | 19:43 |
| kmalloc | since it's HTTP and REST, it makes sense. | 19:43 |
| exarr | kmalloc: It certainly does. | 19:44 |
| exarr | Thanks for that. Makes perfect sense. | 19:44 |
| kmalloc | and we know you can do things like: http://OpenstackAPI.WhateverYourDomainIs/identity | 19:44 |
| kmalloc | we put alolt of effort into ensuring that works ^ so you can do http://domain/identity and http://domain/compute etc | 19:45 |
| kmalloc | for the various services (suburl) rather than needing an IP/Vhost for each (though, http://identity.yourdomain and http://compute.yourdomain is easier in general) | 19:45 |
| exarr | waw. I feel like tearing it all apart and rebuilding it. | 19:48 |
| kmalloc | :) | 19:48 |
| exarr | Don't think the devs would be too happy about that tho. | 19:48 |
| kmalloc | hehe, well, the nice thing is you can just add http ports for identity | 19:48 |
| kmalloc | and also listen on 35357 | 19:49 |
| kmalloc | and just update everything to just look at the http ports and tell people to use the "more correct" port (and 35357 will go away in X time) - same with suburls or dedicated vhosts/ips | 19:49 |
| kmalloc | if folks use the service catalog, you should be able to change the addresses of any of the services | 19:50 |
| kmalloc | with exception of keystone (since that is apriori knowledge to auth) | 19:50 |
| kmalloc | I know, that doesn't help with the "RIP IT APART AND REDO IT" feeling ;) | 19:50 |
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| exarr | kmalloc: I have rebuilt the implmentation a few times. Still have a lot to learn. But now the concept piece is in place for a lab, so trying to at least offer a completed POC. | 19:53 |
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| exarr | But I will look to see if I can fix it with minimal disruption. | 19:53 |
| exarr | Random question: Why apache over nginx? | 19:55 |
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| exarr | Consensus over the projects? | 19:56 |
| lbragstad | gagehugo: is https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1738372 an issue with heat or keystone? | 19:56 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1738372 in OpenStack Identity (keystone) "Install and configure in keystone" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 19:56 |
| lbragstad | gagehugo: it sounds like something it's installing the right version of oslo.policy somewhere | 19:57 |
| gagehugo | lbragstad I'm testing that now, waiting to get the conf from one of our engineers | 19:57 |
| lbragstad | ok - this feels like a dependency issue | 19:58 |
| gagehugo | it does | 19:58 |
| lbragstad | curious to know what you find out | 19:58 |
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| gagehugo | also how did this pass https://review.openstack.org/#/c/552988/ | 19:58 |
| gagehugo | pass zuul* | 19:59 |
| gagehugo | thought we needed the requirements change | 19:59 |
| gagehugo | but maybe not? | 19:59 |
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| lbragstad | i was looking at that one the other day | 20:02 |
| lbragstad | i'm not sure i quite understand why you'd want to prevent someone from updating their password | 20:02 |
| lbragstad | exarr: it was the first one we targeted a long time ago | 20:04 |
| gagehugo | yeah that is an odd use case | 20:04 |
| lbragstad | several deployment projects give you the ability to specify nginx over apache | 20:04 |
| exarr | Yeah, no biggie. Just curious. | 20:05 |
| exarr | Thanks :_ | 20:05 |
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| * exarr wonders if tea == cup of tea, or you're a northern lad in the UK and you mean food :-) | 20:08 | |
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| lbragstad | hah - nope | 20:24 |
| lbragstad | just a cup of tea | 20:25 |
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| ayoung | lbragstad, looks like I | 20:58 |
| ayoung | lbragstad, looks like I'm going to Vancouver | 20:58 |
| lbragstad | \o/ | 20:58 |
| ayoung | and that means I'll probably drag kmalloc with me. | 20:58 |
| ayoung | FLy to Seattle to see friends, drive on up. | 20:58 |
| lbragstad | ayoung: did you have a talk accepted? | 20:59 |
| ayoung | yep. https://www.openstack.org/summit/vancouver-2018/summit-schedule/events/20818/a-unified-approach-to-role-based-access-control | 20:59 |
| ayoung | mapping RBAC between Keystone and Kubernetes | 20:59 |
| lbragstad | oh - nice | 21:00 |
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| exarr | kmalloc: regarding your method of openstackAPI.blah/<service> approach, this suburl method works only with a web service passing the requests back and fourth assumingly. | 21:03 |
| exarr | With your comment of "we put effot in to make this work" I didn't know if I was missing something. | 21:03 |
| exarr | With the obvious service.domain/blah it's simple enough. | 21:03 |
| kmalloc | we as in openstack | 21:04 |
| exarr | lol. I used the term collectively :-) | 21:05 |
| kmalloc | for a long time, it didn't work (pre ... newton? or so) | 21:05 |
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| exarr | How could it not work? .... to google" | 21:07 |
| kmalloc | the way other services interacted with the service catalog | 21:08 |
| kmalloc | or was unable to reach suburls | 21:08 |
| exarr | Ah. okay. | 21:10 |
| exarr | I have made note of your recommendations, and will explore them over the next few days. Thank you. | 21:10 |
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| exarr | ayoung: (sorry, I read your link :-/) As a redhat guy, is director a good deployment too for rhel-based OS implementations? | 21:13 |
| exarr | *tool | 21:13 |
| ayoung | exarr, it is pretty much the only thing we will really support | 21:14 |
| ayoung | I mean, I've done a bunch of POC work with Packstack, so for little stuff I still prefer it. | 21:14 |
| exarr | ayoung: Thanks. It's being considered. But I have always found deployment tools fills me with sorrow. | 21:14 |
| ayoung | Heh | 21:15 |
| ayoung | THe thinkg about director/tripleo is it is shooting for everything: HA, ironic based enrollment, Ceph integration | 21:15 |
| ayoung | I reintroduced myself to Director just this week, after having laid off it for a year. | 21:16 |
| ayoung | Its hard to find resources to learn it, because it really wants a full cluster. We do this thing called HextupleO for training | 21:17 |
| ayoung | which means we have an OpenStack cluster for learning how to install OpenStack on OpenStack. | 21:17 |
| ayoung | its Keystone Turtles all the way down | 21:17 |
| exarr | ayoung: Plenty of people using it in the real world for deployments? | 21:17 |
| ayoung | yes | 21:18 |
| exarr | ahh, the old nested-openstack approach :-) | 21:18 |
| ayoung | exarr, I can probably get you some customer references if you need them | 21:18 |
| exarr | ayoung: That would be really useful actually. | 21:18 |
| exarr | We're a decent company trying to break into openstack. I'll not cite the environment because everone just sighs. :-) | 21:19 |
| ayoung | exarr send me an email at ayoung@redhat.com with your specifics and I'll get the right set of answers to you. | 21:19 |
| exarr | ayoung: That's brilliant. Thankyou :-) | 21:19 |
| ayoung | That is exactly my job these days. | 21:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.policy master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/549559 | 21:22 |
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| exarr | ayoung: Fired you a quick email. I don't want to take too much of your time, but would be good to have a guy of your stature promoting the tool as it's good to cite within the design specs to the guys in suits :-) | 21:28 |
| ayoung | I'm not that tall. | 21:28 |
| exarr | hahaha. The second reference in that definition :-) | 21:29 |
| gagehugo | lbragstad http://paste.openstack.org/show/702237/ | 21:30 |
| gagehugo | 2018-03-15 21:11:49.485 | Requirement already satisfied: oslo.policy===1.18.0 | 21:34 |
| gagehugo | lemme try updating | 21:34 |
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| kmalloc | exarr: see you talk to ayoung and you get all the fun stuff. i'm just a lurker (i'm happy to direct all the fun stuff to adam, even though we both are at red hat) | 21:37 |
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| ayoung | kmalloc, BTW, I'm planning on taking you up on that offer to drive to Vancouver from Seattle. | 21:42 |
| kmalloc | cool | 21:42 |
| exarr | Does Satellite and Openstack play well together? | 21:43 |
| exarr | I mean more in terms of keeping the infrastructure up to date, not the VMs. | 21:44 |
| exarr | Patch management is important, but the idea of this being applied to the hypervisor nodes seems a little scary. | 21:45 |
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| exarr | kmalloc: To be fair, you redhat guys are very active across the openstack irc channels. Nice to see. | 21:46 |
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| jessegler | lbragstad: I opened a bug for the project tags stuff we discussed yesterday, because it's not aligned with nova. | 22:23 |
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| lbragstad | jessegler: do they treat it as subsets? | 22:37 |
| lbragstad | jessegler: thanks for the follow up btw - i'll check in a little later | 22:38 |
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| exarr | ayoung: Thanks for the reply! | 22:49 |
| ayoung | exarr, My pleasure. | 22:49 |
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| gagehugo | lbragstad yeah I think they do | 23:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/keystone master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/551493 | 23:15 |
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