| openstackgerrit | Monty Taylor proposed openstack/keystoneauth master: Fix interface argument to get_all_version_data https://review.openstack.org/567702 | 00:02 |
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| mordred | kmalloc: yah. and it just released a couple of days ago ... and it's 'public' everywhere else | 00:03 |
| kmalloc | Yep | 00:03 |
| mordred | I mean, the chance that anyone has even noticed the method is pretty low | 00:03 |
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| mordred | it's a pretty specific use-case :) | 00:04 |
| mordred | "please fetch all of the version discovery documents for every service in the catalog" | 00:04 |
| mordred | not a task people need to do daily, you know? | 00:04 |
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| mordred | kmalloc: btw - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/564494 is the sdk patch to consume all of the service-type alias enabled discovery we just added | 00:16 |
| kmalloc | nice | 00:16 |
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| mordred | yay net reduction in code | 00:16 |
| kmalloc | hehe | 00:16 |
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| kmalloc | lbragstad: ^ cc, lets get this fixed. | 00:28 |
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| kmalloc | mordred: cmurphy pushed your fix in | 01:01 |
| kmalloc | mordred: as soon as it lands either you or I will get a release patch in place | 01:02 |
| kmalloc | mordred: thanks for turning that around quickly | 01:02 |
| kmalloc | cmurphy: same to you | 01:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/keystoneauth master: Fix interface argument to get_all_version_data https://review.openstack.org/567702 | 02:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | wangxiyuan proposed openstack/keystone master: Clean up token extra code https://review.openstack.org/555279 | 03:44 |
| openstackgerrit | wangxiyuan proposed openstack/keystone master: Clean up token extra code https://review.openstack.org/555279 | 03:48 |
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| kmalloc | lbragstad, mordred: https://review.openstack.org/567743 | 05:21 |
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| lbragstad | kmalloc: nice - thanks! | 13:54 |
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| lbragstad | ayoung: do you work with ken holden? | 14:29 |
| hrybacki | o/ | 14:29 |
| lbragstad | hrybacki: do you work with ken holden? | 14:29 |
| hrybacki | lbragstad: no but the name sounds familiar | 14:29 |
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| lbragstad | ah - i'm fishing for an irc nick | 14:30 |
| hrybacki | lemme look | 14:30 |
| lbragstad | thanks - he is co-presenting a keystone talk that looks interesting | 14:30 |
| lbragstad | and i wanted to ask if he'd be ok with us plugging it in the project update | 14:31 |
| hrybacki | he's an SA on OpenStack so I'm fairly certain ayoung can point you at him -- his irc nick is noted as kholden | 14:32 |
| hrybacki | but he's likely at RH Summit and offline | 14:32 |
| lbragstad | awesome - thanks for the info! | 14:33 |
| hrybacki | NP :) | 14:33 |
| lbragstad | what about Krzysztof Janiszewski ? | 14:33 |
| lbragstad | fwiw - this is the talk i'm looking at https://www.openstack.org/summit/vancouver-2018/summit-schedule/events/20727/integrating-keystone-with-large-scale-centralized-authentication | 14:36 |
| gagehugo | o/ | 14:41 |
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| ayoung | lbragstad, Yes | 15:04 |
| ayoung | and I am sure that he would be | 15:05 |
| ayoung | https://www.openstack.org/summit/vancouver-2018/summit-schedule/global-search?t=Ken%20Holden | 15:05 |
| ayoung | lbragstad, I am so glad he is giving that talk. Now when people internally ask me about LDAP for Keystone I can point them at him | 15:06 |
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| lbragstad | nice | 15:08 |
| lbragstad | ayoung: thanks, i'll add it to the list, but if you come in contact with him prior to the summit it would be good to give him a heads up | 15:09 |
| lbragstad | ayoung: or, if you PM his email, i can shoot him a note | 15:09 |
| lbragstad | him and Krzysztof i should say | 15:10 |
| ayoung | lbragstad, he's usually pretty responsive, but with RH Summit this week, people have been quite (except on Twitter) | 15:10 |
| lbragstad | sure - that makes sense | 15:11 |
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| ayoung | Wrong Krystof | 15:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Harry Rybacki proposed openstack/keystone-specs master: Define a set of basic default roles https://review.openstack.org/566377 | 16:21 |
| hrybacki | lbragstad: felipemonteiro__ raised a good point. We are opting to used implied roles for ensuring that member->auditor, admin->member, and therefore admin->member-> auditor. However, this will not be obvious if one looks at our policy-in-code (https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/keystone/common/policies/base.py) bc we are doing it during the bootstrap process. Obviously it'll be in the logs but that's | 16:23 |
| hrybacki | not where folks would look | 16:23 |
| hrybacki | How do we make this more obvious? | 16:23 |
| felipemonteiro__ | o/ | 16:24 |
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| hrybacki | \o | 16:24 |
| kmalloc | hm | 16:24 |
| kmalloc | that is a good question | 16:25 |
| kmalloc | i think we'll need to do something to make that clear, but that is hard to do. perhaps we document defaults in the "policy-in-code" bit? | 16:25 |
| kmalloc | or expected defaults? | 16:25 |
| hrybacki | aye, MVP is adding comments to that file noting as much | 16:26 |
| hrybacki | Obviously noting as much in 'added documentation' as well | 16:26 |
| hrybacki | 'noting as much' is apparently my preferred phrase for this morning | 16:26 |
| kmalloc | yeah, document our expected defaults | 16:26 |
| kmalloc | we should ensure that whatever "defaults we document" we attempt to check those are as expected. | 16:27 |
| kmalloc | not sure how we'd do that, but ... we should see if we can | 16:27 |
| hrybacki | which makes me wonder, should there be a way to actually enable role implication within policy-in-code ? | 16:27 |
| hrybacki | kmalloc: what do you mean? | 16:27 |
| kmalloc | or enable role implication. | 16:27 |
| kmalloc | i was thinking a "expected_role_default_expansion=[role1, role2]" and we turn that into something we test on | 16:28 |
| kmalloc | and that gets translated into some reasonable documentation | 16:28 |
| kmalloc | automatically | 16:28 |
| kmalloc | but a mechanism to explicitly show the implied roles in policy-in-code would work too | 16:29 |
| kmalloc | show/enable | 16:29 |
| hrybacki | yeah, I think ^^ would be congruent to our end goals wrt policy-in-code | 16:29 |
| kmalloc | ++ | 16:30 |
| kmalloc | omg... garlic butter toast with eggs and tomato... | 16:30 |
| kmalloc | so good. | 16:30 |
| kmalloc | #LateBreakfast | 16:30 |
| * kmalloc left the puppy home and camping at a coffee shop for 2-3 hours | 16:30 | |
| hrybacki | kmalloc: I haven't eaten today but now I'm craving some of that hard | 16:30 |
| * kmalloc is taking a real stab at "flask-i-fying" keystone. | 16:31 | |
| felipemonteiro__ | kmalloc: ++ it seems like the intention is to simultaneously simplify the policy.json while still documenting everything in code | 16:31 |
| hrybacki | btw, current fave. breakfast sandwich: toast w/ a lil siracha, 1 strip of bacon crumbled over a fried egg with thinly sliced cheddar to top it off | 16:31 |
| kmalloc | or at least dropping paste in lieu of flask as the wrapper so we can start moving 100% to the flask framework | 16:31 |
| felipemonteiro__ | i'm not sure how operators will respond to implied roles while drafting policy.json changes, only time will tell | 16:32 |
| kmalloc | hrybacki: man, siracha is so good. i'm aiming for less meat and more veggies, so bacon is mostly out atm | 16:32 |
| hrybacki | felipemonteiro__: there is no perfect solution :( | 16:32 |
| kmalloc | otherwise... NICE. | 16:32 |
| hrybacki | kmalloc: same. hence my emphasis on a single stip :( | 16:32 |
| kmalloc | felipemonteiro__: yeah we just can't know, we have to do our best | 16:32 |
| hrybacki | two years ago it would have been at least three | 16:32 |
| hrybacki | but frying the egg /in/ the bacon grease is kind of key | 16:33 |
| kmalloc | mmmmm | 16:33 |
| kmalloc | i olive oil fry my eggs | 16:33 |
| hrybacki | mmm but that bacon infused goodness tho | 16:33 |
| hrybacki | eggs++ | 16:33 |
| hrybacki | aaand now all I can think about is food -_- | 16:33 |
| kmalloc | also this coffee shop is a bakery, so they make their own bread - salt water yeast and flour | 16:34 |
| kmalloc | thats all that goes into it all, and super fresh. | 16:35 |
| * kmalloc is on the "tired of 'enriched' flour and processed breads". | 16:35 | |
| kmalloc | it is either find good stuff or bake my own | 16:35 |
| kmalloc | also all unbleached flour + a good sourdough starter | 16:35 |
| * kmalloc is "helping" hrybacki | 16:36 | |
| hrybacki | someone is making toast in my co-op rn. | 16:36 |
| kmalloc | mordred: could you imagine keystone with flask-restplus? ;) | 16:36 |
| hrybacki | 24 minutes, I can make it that long | 16:36 |
| kmalloc | hrybacki: tough decision time, X1Carbon [6th gen], X1 Yoga [3rd Gen] (and if either of those, HDR screen 500 nit or just hidpi ips 270 nit), or XPS 13 | 16:40 |
| kmalloc | hrybacki: i need a new laptop =/ | 16:41 |
| kmalloc | my old X1C is giving up the ghost and warranty is up | 16:41 |
| hrybacki | that's tough, I'm not up-to-date on those lines. I've got about another ~10 months before my research begins | 16:42 |
| * hrybacki is sad to admit he still likes macbook pros more than any of the last 3 thinkpads he's owned | 16:42 | |
| kmalloc | the new MBP [keyboard and touchbar] make it a nogo | 16:43 |
| kmalloc | i don't want to have to do everything in a vm | 16:43 |
| kmalloc | container for isolated runtimes is quite sufficient | 16:43 |
| hrybacki | I'm a huge fan of the new keyboard/touchpad - I was hesitant at first but have grown quite fond | 16:44 |
| hrybacki | plus screen/battery life/portability | 16:45 |
| kmalloc | the new keyboard is ... nope... no, i want an old-school x67 keyboard in my laptop, but that said... | 16:45 |
| hrybacki | I'm genuinely curious about the machines huawei has been putting out | 16:45 |
| kmalloc | what i really want is somewhere between the surface book2, xps13, x1 carbon, and Purism (librem) 13 | 16:46 |
| kmalloc | but somehow i don't think i can commission what i really want. | 16:46 |
| kmalloc | i am somewhat tempted to see if i can work with some folks to make something awesome happen. | 16:47 |
| kmalloc | i *really* want a coreboot enabled machine :) | 16:47 |
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| lbragstad | i've heard good things about the xps 13 | 16:54 |
| lbragstad | i think smcginnis runs one | 16:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Harry Rybacki proposed openstack/keystone-specs master: Define a set of basic default roles https://review.openstack.org/566377 | 17:02 |
| hrybacki | felipemonteiro__: I added a little note about where we will document the implied roles chain ^^ | 17:03 |
| felipemonteiro__ | Nice, will check after lunch... #latelunch for me too | 17:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/keystone master: Allow cleaning up non-existant group assignments https://review.openstack.org/546969 | 18:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/keystone master: Consolidate health-check-middleware.rst https://review.openstack.org/547308 | 18:39 |
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| lbragstad | cmurphy: lol i was literally just about to start working on the bug report for the news letter :) | 19:04 |
| lbragstad | cmurphy: thanks for sending it! | 19:04 |
| cmurphy | lbragstad: oh haha :) if you want to add to it feel free to send a response :) | 19:05 |
| lbragstad | parsing your report now, but i was just about to grab the link to etherpad from a previous report when boom... i saw it rolling in | 19:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Gage Hugo proposed openstack/keystone master: Consolidate oauth1.rst https://review.openstack.org/547293 | 20:09 |
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| lbragstad | cmurphy: kmalloc do either of you have an objection to releaseing ldappool? | 20:57 |
| lbragstad | i'm reading sean's email and libraries without a release this cycle and ldappool is one of them | 20:57 |
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| cmurphy | lbragstad: we've only had three commits on it since the last tag, all just updating requirements | 21:00 |
| lbragstad | yeah - that's what i noticed | 21:00 |
| lbragstad | figured nothing really changed, but wanted to check since you two are more familiar with it than i am | 21:01 |
| lbragstad | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/567947/ | 21:01 |
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| kmalloc | lbragstad: nah releasing it is 100% good to me | 21:03 |
| kmalloc | but as cmurphy said | 21:03 |
| lbragstad | cool - done | 21:03 |
| kmalloc | it just doesn't move far/fast | 21:03 |
| lbragstad | mordred: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-May/130410.html | 21:03 |
| cmurphy | lbragstad: hmm it wasn't even updates to requirements.txt, just to test-requirements.txt and to lower-constraints.txt | 21:03 |
| cmurphy | so this is really a noop release | 21:03 |
| lbragstad | i wonder if test requirements still justifies a minor release? | 21:03 |
| lbragstad | i think changes to requirements justify it, iirc | 21:03 |
| kmalloc | lbragstad: i just +1'd the change | 21:04 |
| kmalloc | it might need upper-constraints love | 21:04 |
| kmalloc | in general | 21:04 |
| kmalloc | yeah, update to requirements justifies a release | 21:04 |
| kmalloc | man, cup of coffee #3, still feeling wiped out | 21:05 |
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| cmurphy | commented on the patch | 21:05 |
| kmalloc | lbragstad: well crap on the ksa thing, reading it | 21:05 |
| lbragstad | we made the same comment lol | 21:05 |
| kmalloc | lbragstad: we might need to do some reworking. | 21:05 |
| lbragstad | just in two different places | 21:05 |
| kmalloc | lbragstad: make it a minor release not bugfix | 21:06 |
| lbragstad | done | 21:07 |
| cmurphy | ? | 21:07 |
| cmurphy | minor was what he had before | 21:08 |
| lbragstad | now it's modifying patch i think | 21:08 |
| lbragstad | major.minor.patch ? | 21:08 |
| lbragstad | so - 2.2.0 -> 2.2.1 instead of 2.2.0 -> 2.3.0 | 21:09 |
| kmalloc | yeah that is good | 21:10 |
| kmalloc | 2.3 | 21:10 |
| kmalloc | oh wait | 21:10 |
| kmalloc | hold on | 21:10 |
| kmalloc | crossing things here. | 21:10 |
| kmalloc | i don't know if req changes warrant patch or minor honestly | 21:11 |
| kmalloc | ... | 21:11 |
| kmalloc | lbragstad: responded to the ML thread about KSA | 21:11 |
| cmurphy | it's only test-requirements and lower-constraints, not reqs | 21:11 |
| kmalloc | lbragstad: if we did break something, we'll need to restore previous behavior(s) | 21:11 |
| kmalloc | cmurphy: then patch is fine imo | 21:12 |
| kmalloc | ok we're in the right place with this release now :) | 21:12 |
| kmalloc | cmurphy: thanks! | 21:12 |
| cmurphy | lol ok :) | 21:12 |
| kmalloc | lbragstad: fixed your commit message too | 21:13 |
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| kmalloc | cmurphy: i think i'm going to take my lawn chair and the puppy outside ;) | 21:14 |
| cmurphy | :D | 21:14 |
| kmalloc | cmurphy: [she's been sleeping all morning] | 21:14 |
| kmalloc | so, code hacking from the grass in front of the houses :) | 21:14 |
| * kmalloc waits for laptop to charge | 21:14 | |
| lbragstad | i want to be one of my dogs for *a* day | 21:14 |
| kmalloc | cmurphy: running this by you as well, since i ran this by lbragstad | 21:15 |
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| kmalloc | cmurphy: going to spin up a change to make flask a core part of keystone, but basically just take the current middleware[s]/routes and run them as WSGI middleware before the main flask app | 21:15 |
| kmalloc | cmurphy: and in the process going to ditch paste [dead project] and just wire everything up in the flask factory | 21:15 |
| kmalloc | cmurphy: so we'll run "keystone_wsgi" and then can start converting from the old routes __call__/dispatching to flask dispatching for each subsystem | 21:16 |
| kmalloc | cmurphy: see any major issues in that before i dive in (high level gut feelings is wht i'm going for) | 21:16 |
| cmurphy | kmalloc: i'm not super familiar with how our middleware works but ++ to ditching paste | 21:18 |
| kmalloc | cmurphy: mostly everything just runs through __Call__ and dispatches/handles request passes down from there | 21:19 |
| kmalloc | so i'll just wire it all up to do just that (including our service_v3 one) before the flask app core, where we'll move everything as we convert from routes to flask-routes | 21:20 |
| * kmalloc is going to need to look into the JSON Home bits as well, but should be pretty straight forward. | 21:20 | |
| kmalloc | in essence, nothing should change except we have flask at the very end of the stack handling the "i dunno what the heck you asked for" | 21:21 |
| cmurphy | lbragstad: haha never mind i guess: "Initial releases in a series must increment at least the minor version or be beta versions. '2.2.1'" | 21:21 |
| kmalloc | oh | 21:21 |
| kmalloc | boo | 21:21 |
| kmalloc | well then. | 21:21 |
| kmalloc | 2.3 it is | 21:21 |
| kmalloc | *shrug* | 21:21 |
| kmalloc | honestly... do we need to release ? | 21:22 |
| * kmalloc shrugs | 21:22 | |
| kmalloc | i'm happy with a no-op release if we need it | 21:22 |
| cmurphy | kmalloc: what about the paste.ini file? do we need to handle a migration path off of using it? | 21:22 |
| cmurphy | re: release yeah i'm not sure i understand the need to release just for the sake of releasing | 21:23 |
| kmalloc | cmurphy: nah we shouldn't if we supply a workable (the entry-point generated wsgi file) wsgi file | 21:24 |
| kmalloc | so, paste.ini will just disappear | 21:24 |
| kmalloc | but you'll run keystone in the same way as before, uwsgi <path to keystone.wsgi-file> | 21:24 |
| cmurphy | what about people that have customized it with other middlewares? | 21:25 |
| kmalloc | well, they'd be sol :P | 21:25 |
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| kmalloc | but honestly, afaik the only thing being done is removing ec2/s3 | 21:25 |
| kmalloc | or having things way out in front (proxy/etc)( | 21:26 |
| kmalloc | i'll spin up the change and if we need a way of hooking in other middlewares, i'll figure a way to load in the external deps into the wired up form | 21:27 |
| kmalloc | but tl;dr, paste has been on the long list of things we need to remove, so i'll do the paste-ectomy and get the ball rolling, even if we don't land it right off the bat. | 21:27 |
| kmalloc | while we figure out things such as "i have a custom wsgi middleware i wedged in" | 21:28 |
| cmurphy | sgtm | 21:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Gage Hugo proposed openstack/keystone master: Add LDAP user-backed functional testing gate https://review.openstack.org/558940 | 21:29 |
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| lbragstad | wxy: jgwentworth johnthetubaguy kmalloc i created an etherpad for the unified limits discussion at the forum if you're interested in adding to it, or commenting on it - http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-May/130413.html | 21:38 |
| jgwentworth | ack, thanks | 21:39 |
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| lbragstad | yankcrime: you might be interested in that as well ^ | 21:41 |
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