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openstackgerrit | Vu Cong Tuan proposed openstack/keystone master: Replace usage of get_legacy_facade() with get_engine() https://review.openstack.org/615749 | 07:12 |
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openstackgerrit | wangxiyuan proposed openstack/keystone master: Remove unused lower constraints https://review.openstack.org/615750 | 07:14 |
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openstackgerrit | wangxiyuan proposed openstack/keystone master: Refresh health check doc https://review.openstack.org/615754 | 07:26 |
vishakha | cmurphy: Facing some issue in keystone federation using testshib.org as IDP and keystone as SP. | 07:34 |
vishakha | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/1UAF6vga/ | 07:35 |
vishakha | cmurphy: Above error is coming in horizon | 07:36 |
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vishakha | cmurphy: whereas I have configured metadata in shibbholeth2.xml | 07:37 |
openstackgerrit | lei zhang proposed openstack/keystone master: Fix the dead URL https://review.openstack.org/615760 | 07:39 |
cmurphy | vishakha: testshib has been broken for a while, that's why our federation tests have been failing :( | 07:52 |
cmurphy | there is a new thing samltest.id which i started trying to switch us to https://review.openstack.org/615391 | 07:53 |
cmurphy | but I was having trouble uploading metadata a couple of days ago, was going to check again today whether it was fixed and email the maintainer if it was still broken | 07:54 |
cmurphy | vishakha: another alternative is this nodejs app which works pretty well as demoware https://github.com/mcguinness/saml-idp though it doesn't support ECP | 07:55 |
vishakha | cmurphy: Thank you for the response. Then I am thinking to make another keystone as IDP. | 08:02 |
cmurphy | vishakha: that's a good idea too, though it won't let you play with horizon's websso functionality | 08:04 |
vishakha | cmurphy: ohh. that can be tested only with CLi? | 08:05 |
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cmurphy | vishakha: it can use horizon but it works differently, you have to log into horizon first on the idp and then switch to the sp once you're already logged in | 08:06 |
vishakha | cmurphy: I have a doubt here, that why do we have to login in to the kesytone IDP first ? to create user?? | 08:12 |
cmurphy | vishakha: no, it's just how keystone-to-keystone works. Keystone as an IdP doesn't implement the full SAML2.0 WebSSO spec, so you have to get a token from the keystone IdP first and then exchange it for a SAMLResponse from the IdP which you then use to get a token from the SP | 08:19 |
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cmurphy | which all happens under the hood when you log into horizon and then switch the service provider from the dropdown menu | 08:19 |
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vishakha | cmurphy: Thanks. I will follow your above suggestions and try. | 08:49 |
openstackgerrit | wangxiyuan proposed openstack/oslo.limit master: Add basic enforce func https://review.openstack.org/596520 | 08:50 |
openstackgerrit | wangxiyuan proposed openstack/keystone master: Remove unused lower constraints https://review.openstack.org/615750 | 08:52 |
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lbragstad | cmurphy did you happen to see jaypipes comment about oslo.limit yesterday? | 10:16 |
cmurphy | lbragstad: no | 10:17 |
cmurphy | ml? | 10:17 |
lbragstad | IRC - i spent most of yesterday in -nova working on the limits stuff | 10:18 |
cmurphy | oh i'm not in -nova | 10:18 |
lbragstad | we were trying to figure out the dance between oslo.limit and the service | 10:19 |
lbragstad | jay suggested not having enforcement in oslo.limit at all | 10:19 |
lbragstad | and keeping oslo.limit as pretty much a client for limits information | 10:20 |
lbragstad | thoughts? | 10:20 |
* cmurphy checks eavesdrop logs | 10:21 | |
lbragstad | iirc - the conversation started with me and johnthetubaguy | 10:21 |
lbragstad | http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-nova/%23openstack-nova.2018-11-05.log.html#t2018-11-05T16:48:38 | 10:23 |
cmurphy | if oslo.limit is just a client for /v3/limits then we could have just put it in keystoneclient | 10:26 |
cmurphy | the point was to have a common interface for quota management, based on the assumption that calculating usage also required knowledge of the limits | 10:27 |
cmurphy | it also had to do with dealing with the project hierarchy, keystone can return the hierarchy and the limits but e.g. nova doesn't natively understand that, it needs oslo.limit to understand the different hierarchical models and do the quota usage calculation based on that | 10:32 |
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cmurphy | so those are my thoughts but i haven't been working on oslo.limit as much as you and wxy-xiyuan and also i trust jay and mel know way more about quota management than any of us do | 10:34 |
* lbragstad nods | 10:36 | |
lbragstad | i agree about the hierarchical part | 10:37 |
lbragstad | i think the awkward-ness around trying to find a good way for oslo.limit to get usage isn't exactly helping | 10:38 |
cmurphy | what's awkward about it? (i haven't been paying attention) | 10:38 |
lbragstad | the callback specifically | 10:39 |
lbragstad | and the arguments passed to it | 10:39 |
lbragstad | yesterday we were trying to work through how oslo.limit should be calling this usage function handed to it by the service | 10:40 |
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cmurphy | yeah i don't know enough about how nova handles it currently to have an opinion on how we should be doing it | 10:45 |
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lbragstad | ack - just thinking out loud | 11:02 |
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openstackgerrit | Colleen Murphy proposed openstack/keystone master: Add py36 tox environment https://review.openstack.org/615841 | 11:53 |
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openstackgerrit | Colleen Murphy proposed openstack/keystone master: Clean up python3.5 usage in tox.ini https://review.openstack.org/615842 | 11:55 |
openstackgerrit | Colleen Murphy proposed openstack/keystonemiddleware master: Add py36 tox environment https://review.openstack.org/615843 | 11:56 |
openstackgerrit | Colleen Murphy proposed openstack/keystoneauth master: Add py36 tox environment https://review.openstack.org/615845 | 11:57 |
openstackgerrit | Colleen Murphy proposed openstack/python-keystoneclient master: Add py36 tox environment https://review.openstack.org/615846 | 11:58 |
openstackgerrit | Colleen Murphy proposed openstack/ldappool master: Add py36 tox environment https://review.openstack.org/615847 | 11:59 |
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jrist | hi all. we've got a bug in tripleo that seems like it's keystone. does anyone have a moment to look? https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1801778 | 12:53 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1801778 in tripleo "Keystone circular reference on OPTIONS" [High,Triaged] | 12:53 |
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lbragstad | jrist it's detecting a circular reference in your roles | 13:07 |
jrist | it sort of seemed like that. do you happen to have any insight on how we might go about fixing? | 13:07 |
jrist | I'm clueless. | 13:08 |
lbragstad | specifically, the role implication has a circular reference | 13:08 |
lbragstad | jrist you can query the implied role linkage using openstackclient | 13:10 |
lbragstad | `openstack implied role list` should give you that information, which you should be able to use to track down the circular reference | 13:11 |
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lbragstad | biab | 13:11 |
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jrist | thanks lbragstad | 13:22 |
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honza | lbragstad: i'm not sure if the circular reference issue is in fact causing the 500 error on OPTIONS | 13:29 |
honza | lbragstad: have there been any issues with the OPTIONS handler in cors? | 13:29 |
lbragstad | not that i'm aware of | 13:34 |
honza | lbragstad: cool, thanks | 13:35 |
lbragstad | i'm not seeing the OPTIONS in the trace? | 13:35 |
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ildikov | lbragstad: can you join the edge call now? :) | 15:02 |
lbragstad | ildikov oh - yes | 15:02 |
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gagehugo | o/ | 15:03 |
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cmurphy | we keep hitting the timeout for the py27 unit tests :( https://review.openstack.org/615598 | 15:24 |
lbragstad | hmm - that must have been pretty recent? | 15:29 |
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gagehugo | looks like intermittent slowdowns from the timestamps | 15:38 |
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lbragstad | DST reminder that the keystone meeting will be in about 20 minutes | 15:39 |
lbragstad | kmalloc knikolla cmurphy let me know if there are specific for the keystone-as-an-idp forum session | 15:40 |
lbragstad | the etherpad is ready to be populated | 15:40 |
lbragstad | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/BER-stein-keystone-as-idp | 15:40 |
lbragstad | thank you kmalloc | 15:45 |
kmalloc | lbragstad: sure thing | 15:46 |
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* kmalloc kicks DST hard. | 15:51 | |
kmalloc | lbragstad: is it wrong that I think I slept worse this time change than last one? | 15:51 |
lbragstad | that makes none sense | 15:52 |
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kmalloc | lbragstad: ok added a chunk to that etherpad | 16:04 |
kmalloc | like... not a small amount of things. | 16:04 |
kmalloc | that should cover the next couple cycles of work | 16:04 |
kmalloc | :P | 16:04 |
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lbragstad | good deal - thanks! | 16:12 |
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openstackgerrit | Colleen Murphy proposed openstack/python-keystoneclient master: Make the functional test voting https://review.openstack.org/613781 | 16:29 |
openstackgerrit | Colleen Murphy proposed openstack/python-keystoneclient master: Use python3 for functional tests https://review.openstack.org/613782 | 16:29 |
cmurphy | wxy-xiyuan: kmalloc ^ | 16:29 |
kmalloc | nice | 16:29 |
kmalloc | +2 | 16:29 |
wxy| | cmurphy: cool. My last review today.:) | 16:34 |
wxy| | Good night, guys. | 16:34 |
lbragstad | good night wxy| | 16:34 |
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ayoung | We meet in 18 mihnuts, right? | 16:42 |
lbragstad | ayoung DST happened | 16:42 |
ayoung | lbragstad, so I adjusted wrong direction? | 16:42 |
kmalloc | ayoung: yep. | 16:49 |
ayoung | kmalloc, its ok, would not have been able to make that anyway. REad throug the evesdrop | 16:50 |
ayoung | and I'll see y'all next week | 16:51 |
* kmalloc nods. | 16:51 | |
hrybacki | oh shoot | 16:53 |
hrybacki | ayoung: same | 16:54 |
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kmalloc | lbragstad: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/613961/ this is critical to land ASAP. | 17:13 |
kmalloc | lbragstad: it's very broken otherwise (500 errors on any non-routed path) | 17:13 |
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lbragstad | kmalloc does that need to be backported? | 17:41 |
kmalloc | nope | 17:42 |
kmalloc | it's a stein only issuye | 17:42 |
kmalloc | but i don't want that lingering around | 17:42 |
lbragstad | sure - good catch | 17:48 |
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honza | lbragstad: i had another look, and there are no errors directly surrounding the OPTIONS HTTP call; inspecting the 500 page further, it looks like it might be from haproxy instead | 17:59 |
honza | jrist: ^^ | 17:59 |
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jrist | ew | 18:13 |
jrist | :) | 18:13 |
jrist | honza: thanks | 18:13 |
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kmalloc | lbragstad: i'm ripping osprofiler out of keystone | 18:52 |
kmalloc | it got an agregate of 35 reviews in all of rocky for it's entire repo | 18:52 |
kmalloc | and has next to no changes/eyes. my concern is if there is ever an issue it'll just be broken | 18:52 |
lbragstad | if that's the case i wonder if other project are considering the same thing | 18:53 |
lbragstad | because i've heard some folks (in osa for example) use it for timing database transactions | 18:54 |
kmalloc | I worry it is just bitrotting | 18:54 |
kmalloc | i'd rather have explicit hooks people can hook into for timing things | 18:54 |
kmalloc | osprofiler was a trainwreck when it was written | 18:54 |
odyssey4me | kmalloc um, yeah - I think jrosser and cloudnull wouldn't like that | 18:55 |
kmalloc | the whole emit things via the API is bad. | 18:55 |
kmalloc | and i still stand firmly by the fact it is inherently an insecure design | 18:55 |
kmalloc | if it was just logging out data in a sane way, i'd be less worried | 18:56 |
kmalloc | and probably would just do the same thing we do with debug | 18:56 |
kmalloc | (debug middleware) | 18:56 |
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kmalloc | make it loadablle | 18:56 |
kmalloc | but it is so bad. | 18:56 |
* kmalloc shrugs. | 18:56 | |
lbragstad | i haven't parsed the code, so i can't speak to that | 18:56 |
odyssey4me | kmalloc I've asked cloudnull and jrosser to join, given they're actually using it. | 18:56 |
lbragstad | but i'm just aware of people using it | 18:57 |
kmalloc | i spent a huge amount of time dealing with osprofiler | 18:57 |
kmalloc | especially the landing it in keystone | 18:57 |
cloudnull | o/ | 18:57 |
kmalloc | and i regret agreeing to land it every single day i look at it | 18:57 |
* kmalloc really would rather have appropriate hook points we can link in for the profiling data | 18:57 | |
cloudnull | I am using osprofiler and feeding the data back to elasticsearch | 18:57 |
kmalloc | and not some opaque library that lives in there. | 18:57 |
* cloudnull is a bad person | 18:57 | |
lbragstad | lol | 18:58 |
kmalloc | i asked when it was being implemented for it to support hook points, e.g. SQL, etc. | 18:58 |
kmalloc | and work to implement them in the projects | 18:58 |
kmalloc | cloudnull: I worry that osprofiler is basically in bitrot mode | 18:59 |
lbragstad | i'm not opposed to hooks, but i'd certainly wait to remove osprofiler until we have those in pace | 18:59 |
lbragstad | place* | 18:59 |
kmalloc | i think i'm going to at least do the same thing we did with debug. | 18:59 |
kmalloc | not even load osprofiler if it's not enabled | 18:59 |
kmalloc | i really don't trust it to do the right thing when not opted in | 19:00 |
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lbragstad | how is that going to affect the folks using it? | 19:00 |
kmalloc | nil | 19:00 |
kmalloc | they can just enable it as per normal | 19:00 |
kmalloc | and it will work | 19:00 |
lbragstad | they already enable it, so it should be a noop? | 19:00 |
kmalloc | yep | 19:00 |
kmalloc | but by default we wont even load in osprofiler | 19:00 |
cloudnull | kmalloc thats ok. if its something that is largely being unmaintained/used dont keep it around on my expense. I'll adjust. | 19:00 |
kmalloc | cloudnull: it got an aggregate of 35 reviews total in rocky | 19:00 |
kmalloc | and most code is "fix tests" | 19:01 |
kmalloc | from then and stien | 19:01 |
kmalloc | i'll work to find an alternative before removing it | 19:01 |
cloudnull | we really like the capability but its not something I'll lose sleep over. | 19:01 |
kmalloc | i'll just make the disabled mode more "disableD" | 19:01 |
cmurphy | it's not about keeping it around for cloudnull we need to keep it for anyone using it who didn't happen to catch this conversation | 19:01 |
kmalloc | as in, we wont even load the middleware bits. | 19:01 |
kmalloc | and we can telegraph removal via deprecation when we have an alternative | 19:01 |
cloudnull | happy to provide examples and talk about my usecause if thats at all useful | 19:01 |
kmalloc | cloudnull: you going to be in berlin? | 19:02 |
cloudnull | I will :) | 19:02 |
kmalloc | i'd like to hear that, because it would be nice to have a plan | 19:02 |
cloudnull | ++ lets grab some time to chat | 19:02 |
kmalloc | since i'm doing a ton of the stuff in keystone that is mostly cleanup. | 19:02 |
* kmalloc wants to be able to support some of the other products out there easily for this type of profiling | 19:03 | |
jrosser | I think one of the few actual bug fixes to osprofiler was from us, for elasticsearch6.x | 19:03 |
* kmalloc nods. | 19:03 | |
kmalloc | i figured. | 19:03 |
cloudnull | whatsapp - 415-827-6749 if your around. otherwise IRC works too. | 19:03 |
kmalloc | irc is best :P | 19:03 |
kmalloc | i don't use whatsapp... | 19:03 |
cloudnull | all good | 19:03 |
kmalloc | actually i just use normal cell service (yay google fi being cheap) | 19:03 |
cloudnull | sadly i have to jump to another meeting. | 19:04 |
kmalloc | cloudnull: np | 19:04 |
kmalloc | cloudnull: we'll chat in berlin | 19:04 |
kmalloc | cmurphy: i'll get us a step closer to where i feel less uncomfortable with osprofiler in keystone and we can work on future looking things | 19:04 |
cmurphy | kmalloc: okay :) | 19:05 |
kmalloc | cmurphy: for now i'll just wrap it the same way debugmiddleware is wrapped | 19:05 |
kmalloc | so it isn't loaded at all when disabled | 19:05 |
kmalloc | and that makes me not have that creepy-crawly feeling in my skin :) | 19:06 |
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kmalloc | lbragstad, cmurphy: https://review.openstack.org/615979 | 19:43 |
kmalloc | since the latest fix for oslo.cache broke redis *sigh* | 19:44 |
kmalloc | I'm going to build the pymemcache backend in the next day or so. | 19:44 |
kmalloc | and we can deprecate the use of the old python-memcache backend in oslo.cache | 19:44 |
kmalloc | zzzeek: ^ I'll plan to upstream the pymemcache backend as well. | 19:44 |
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kmalloc | gagehugo: ^ cc | 19:52 |
gagehugo | ack | 19:52 |
gagehugo | :) | 19:52 |
zzzeek | kmalloc: OK, isnt that something you were working on a long time ago | 19:54 |
kmalloc | zzzeek: yeah it now is a higher priority | 19:55 |
kmalloc | zzzeek: i'll also upstream a pymemcache pool (non-thread.local setup) | 19:56 |
zzzeek | kmalloc: woop | 19:56 |
kmalloc | becauxe pymemcache implements a thread-safe pool by default | 19:56 |
kmalloc | and we can deprecate use of python-memcache upstream as well, since it's effectively abandonware | 19:56 |
kmalloc | oh snap, we just can pass "use_pooling" to the hashclient and it does pooling for us. | 19:58 |
kmalloc | damn that is slick | 19:58 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-keystoneclient master: Convert functional tests to Zuulv3 https://review.openstack.org/613385 | 20:55 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-keystoneclient master: Make the functional test voting https://review.openstack.org/613781 | 20:55 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-keystoneclient master: Use python3 for functional tests https://review.openstack.org/613782 | 20:55 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/keystone master: Unregister "Exception" from flask handler https://review.openstack.org/613961 | 21:23 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/keystone master: Fix uwsgi --http flag https://review.openstack.org/615522 | 21:23 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/keystone master: Delete PKI middleware debugging section https://review.openstack.org/615448 | 21:23 |
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openstackgerrit | Colleen Murphy proposed openstack/keystone master: Switch devstack plugin to samltest.id https://review.openstack.org/615391 | 22:02 |
kmalloc | lbragstad: keeping the options around for the sake of keeping options around (in the KSM removal) doesn't make a lot of sense | 22:05 |
kmalloc | since nothing references the options anywhere, deprecating for the sake of deprecating is carrying things for no real reason | 22:06 |
kmalloc | oslo.config ignores extra options in the config files | 22:06 |
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