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adriant | lbragstad: having project names bigger than 64 would be nice for some of my use cases... but changing that is too much of a breaking change it seems, so https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/name-field-consistency is probably dead | 01:00 |
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lbragstad | adriant ack - i appreciate the follow up | 01:00 |
adriant | I'll will patiently wait for v4 | 01:01 |
adriant | .... | 01:01 |
lbragstad | hah | 01:01 |
adriant | bah was rewritting that and hit enter. | 01:01 |
adriant | but yes, v4, the solution to all the problems! | 01:01 |
lbragstad | :) | 01:02 |
adriant | mostly, I need 64+ project names to essentially turn the project name into a sub-tree name path, so subprojects can be 'unique' | 01:02 |
lbragstad | yeah - i remember you were doing something like that | 01:02 |
adriant | but I guess I'll mostly tell people to name things shorts, and use project descriptions | 01:02 |
lbragstad | oh - sure | 01:02 |
lbragstad | i suppose that works | 01:02 |
lbragstad | you don't use traditional project hierarchies? | 01:03 |
lbragstad | like - the actual implementation in keystone? | 01:03 |
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adriant | names aren't unique for sub projects | 01:04 |
adriant | as in, this includes trees | 01:04 |
adriant | but I enforce a naming convention down the tree | 01:04 |
adriant | so root_project_1/test and root_project_2/test can both exist | 01:04 |
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adriant | when otherwise they will both make "test" and the second attempt will fail | 01:04 |
lbragstad | but that's because they will both be in the same domain, right? | 01:05 |
adriant | yes | 01:05 |
adriant | single domain issues | 01:05 |
lbragstad | and has less to do with project hierarchy | 01:05 |
adriant | yep | 01:05 |
lbragstad | got it | 01:05 |
adriant | project hierarchy is used for role inheritance and subproject ownership, but we aren't handing a domain to each customer :/ | 01:06 |
adriant | mostly because that has it's own set of messes | 01:06 |
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lbragstad | like proper domain support for RBAC? | 01:08 |
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adriant | lbragstad: sort of, but also the ability to migrate existing customers into their own domain, and other stuff like billing per domain | 01:18 |
lbragstad | mmm | 01:18 |
adriant | single domain is easier in a weird way | 01:19 |
adriant | and sub-projects and hierarchy mostly make it fine | 01:19 |
adriant | the only issue is names no being unique per sub-project level, which can't be solved without some path_name value to maintain unique namespacing | 01:20 |
adriant | there was specs and such a while back about solving exactly that, but it would break too much | 01:20 |
adriant | so my solution (through Adjutant) was just enforce that path_name in the actual name | 01:21 |
adriant | lbragstad: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/hierarchical-project-naming < before my time | 01:22 |
adriant | but essentially I'm trying to mimic that | 01:23 |
lbragstad | interesting | 01:23 |
adriant | adding that to keystone breaks the API, but doing it as a 'naming convention' doesn't :) | 01:24 |
adriant | ah yes, the rabbit hole of rejected specs that is this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/318605/ | 01:27 |
adriant | lbragstad: looks like you even commented on those :) | 01:28 |
lbragstad | it's been a while | 01:30 |
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adriant | that's a little before I started playing around a lot more with Keystone, so I missed those discussions until afterwards. | 01:31 |
adriant | and by that point the first spec (which solved my particular use case) was abandoned | 01:31 |
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lbragstad | cmurphy vishakha - i started an etherpad in case either of you find it useful to see what i'm doing with blueprint https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-blueprint-cleanup | 01:46 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/keystonemiddleware master: Add auth invalidation in auth_token for identity endpoint update https://review.openstack.org/633695 | 01:46 |
lbragstad | also - i'm open to feedback if you have an alternative way of doing things | 01:46 |
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openstackgerrit | weizj proposed openstack/oslo.policy master: Update hacking version https://review.openstack.org/627651 | 06:33 |
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openstackgerrit | weizj proposed openstack/oslo.limit master: Update hacking version https://review.openstack.org/627656 | 07:15 |
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vishakha | lbragstad, cmurphy : I am updating the same etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-blueprint-cleanup with blueprints on which I commented. | 08:12 |
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openstackgerrit | Vishakha Agarwal proposed openstack/keystone master: Correcting tests with project_id https://review.openstack.org/634394 | 09:32 |
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lbragstad | cmurphy do you see a use case for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/domain-specific-mapping ? | 14:31 |
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lbragstad | that blueprint does seem to fall in line with the self-service aspect of the keystone vision and openstack vision | 14:37 |
lbragstad | by allowing domain users access to mappings | 14:37 |
cmurphy | lbragstad: did that get covered by http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/keystone-specs/specs/keystone/ocata/shadow-mapping.html ? i can't quite tell at a quick skim | 14:38 |
lbragstad | cmurphy i double checked | 14:38 |
lbragstad | cmurphy shadow mappings need to be created by system administrators, right? | 14:38 |
cmurphy | lbragstad: yeah | 14:38 |
cmurphy | i definitely see a use for domain specific mappings, it goes along with native saml and self service domain admins | 14:39 |
lbragstad | i think what henry was trying to get at with that blueprint, is the ability for domain administrators to modify mappings for the domain+idp they are using with federation | 14:39 |
cmurphy | makes sense to me, i think native saml is a prereq for that though | 14:40 |
lbragstad | iiuc - the mapping logic in keystone is all api driven, do we need native saml for it? | 14:40 |
lbragstad | we need native saml for full domain admin federation support for sure | 14:41 |
lbragstad | but if i'm a domain admin and you're a system admin, you setup the shib mappings and trust my identity provider, then i get the keys and i can update mappings based on assertions issued by my idp? | 14:42 |
lbragstad | e.g., i don't have to ask you to setup a mapping specific to my assertions | 14:44 |
* cmurphy thinks...the mapping would take input from the saml assertion which means it's useful to have direct control over the identity provider and the service provider configuration settings, i guess not required if you're able to get that information from your admin | 14:44 | |
lbragstad | i should clarify - i'm thinking about the keystone mapping, not the shib mapping | 14:45 |
cmurphy | yeah but it's still looking into the saml assertion to get the values in the "remote" section of the mapping | 14:46 |
lbragstad | yeah - because those come from the shib mapping output | 14:46 |
lbragstad | hmm | 14:46 |
cmurphy | so you're right not 100% required, just more useful if paired with domain admin control of the idp | 14:46 |
lbragstad | yeah - absolutely | 14:46 |
cmurphy | in any case i would unmark that as invalid and we should revisit the spec | 14:47 |
lbragstad | i think so, too | 14:47 |
lbragstad | for blueprints like this, I'll just mark them as "discussion" | 14:48 |
cmurphy | i marked a couple others in the etherpad that i think should be revisited | 14:48 |
cmurphy | i didn't make it through the whole list | 14:48 |
lbragstad | well - it's a long list | 14:48 |
cmurphy | ya | 14:48 |
cmurphy | who knew | 14:48 |
lbragstad | it hasn't been cleaned up in years... | 14:49 |
lbragstad | because i've never done it - and i can't remember if steve ever did? i just see updates from 2016-02-02 to the whiteboard | 14:49 |
cmurphy | not sure if we can block the blueprints feature in lp but maybe after this cleanup is done we should add a note to use bugs and specs instead | 14:50 |
lbragstad | yeah - we need something that describes the process | 14:51 |
lbragstad | i came up dry trying to find any documentation on "how to write specs" | 14:51 |
lbragstad | i think the best we have is the template | 14:51 |
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openstackgerrit | Jose Castro Leon proposed openstack/keystone master: Adds caching of credentials https://review.openstack.org/636645 | 14:58 |
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kmalloc | lbragstad: I have a fix proposed to the template to indicate use of bugs over BPs | 15:15 |
lbragstad | sounds good | 15:15 |
kmalloc | I'd just close all blueprints after period x with prejudice. | 15:15 |
lbragstad | launchpad does have a toggle for blueprints, so i would guess that we don't have to use them | 15:16 |
kmalloc | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/625282/ | 15:16 |
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lbragstad | what i mean by that is if we are going to move to RFE bugs, then i'd like to completely shutoff the ability for people to open blueprints at all | 15:17 |
kmalloc | Yes | 15:17 |
lbragstad | but i do want the archive | 15:17 |
lbragstad | i want the cake and i want to eat it, too! | 15:17 |
kmalloc | Turning off in LP I think turns off the archive | 15:18 |
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lbragstad | of course it would | 15:18 |
kmalloc | Not delete though iirc | 15:18 |
cmurphy | we can copy the ones we want to keep into bugs | 15:18 |
kmalloc | I think it is fine to lose the archive at this point. Copy to bug.. what cmurphy said | 15:18 |
lbragstad | like - pending blueprints cmurphy? or all blueprints? | 15:18 |
kmalloc | All pending | 15:19 |
lbragstad | oh - right | 15:19 |
cmurphy | lbragstad: whatever we dont' want to get rid of | 15:19 |
kmalloc | Old bps are going away with the move to sb anyway. | 15:19 |
kmalloc | So *shrug* | 15:19 |
kmalloc | It's really ok, BPs provide not a ton of info these days that isn't in reno | 15:19 |
lbragstad | what i don't want to lose it stuff like this - http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/keystone-specs/specs/keystone/juno/non-persistent-tokens.html | 15:20 |
lbragstad | which points to all the patches in https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/non-persistent-tokens | 15:20 |
kmalloc | Honestly, we could write a bit that just closes BPs if you want. | 15:21 |
kmalloc | Personally I am ok with losing that, perhaps we just do a mass update of those specs and copy the content into them.and drop the links. | 15:21 |
kmalloc | They are archive only, not active. | 15:22 |
kmalloc | As part of the shut down BPs bit. | 15:22 |
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lbragstad | well - let's see if that's even necessary | 15:25 |
kmalloc | You know, I think copy/paste the BP content into a <pre> block in the archived specs and drop the link is the best bet the more I think about it if we lose the archive access. | 15:25 |
lbragstad | let's go through all the existing ones, mark invalid ones as obsolete, move interesting ones to formal specs or bugs, and then at that point i'll try disabling them in launchpad for keystone | 15:26 |
lbragstad | then we can test if the links still work | 15:26 |
kmalloc | Wfm | 15:26 |
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rafaelweingartne | Hello guys, what is the status of the endpoint filtering feature in Keystone? | 16:18 |
rafaelweingartne | I mean, I am having some odd issues | 16:18 |
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rafaelweingartne | When I read, endpoing groups, I was expecting to be able to create rules such as : { "service_id": "<service1>", "service_id": "<service2>"} | 16:20 |
rafaelweingartne | however, that does not seem to work | 16:20 |
rafaelweingartne | I tried to read some docs and blueprints, but they did not give me much on what is implemented there | 16:20 |
rafaelweingartne | Is it fully implemented? | 16:20 |
rafaelweingartne | for instance, I tried: { "interface": "public" } | 16:21 |
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rafaelweingartne | and this rules works, it lists only public enpoints | 16:21 |
rafaelweingartne | on the other hand, this rule : { "service_id": "serviceID"} | 16:21 |
rafaelweingartne | does not work | 16:21 |
rafaelweingartne | it continues listing all services endpoints | 16:21 |
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lbragstad | rafaelweingartne i haven't looked at that feature in a while, but you might need to build an association between a group of endpoints and a project | 16:49 |
lbragstad | users with a token scoped to that project should get a filtered catalog in the response | 16:50 |
rafaelweingartne | that is what I am doing | 16:50 |
rafaelweingartne | but, it gets even more strange | 16:51 |
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rafaelweingartne | I have these two configurations rafael-EP-filtering-group-restrict-public.json and rafael-EP-filtering-group-restrict-internal.json | 16:51 |
rafaelweingartne | these a basic filters, the first one filters interfaces by public, and the second by internal | 16:51 |
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rafaelweingartne | the content of each one of them is the following: { "interface": "public" } and { "interface": "internal" } | 16:52 |
rafaelweingartne | Then, | 16:52 |
rafaelweingartne | I issue the commands: | 16:52 |
rafaelweingartne | openstack endpoint group create rafael-test1-ep-filter rafael-EP-filtering-group-restrict-public.json | 16:52 |
rafaelweingartne | openstack endpoint group create rafael-test3-ep-filter rafael-EP-filtering-group-restrict-internal.json | 16:52 |
rafaelweingartne | afterwards, if I issue: openstack endpoint group list | 16:53 |
rafaelweingartne | I can see both of them | 16:53 |
rafaelweingartne | however, if I issue: openstack endpoint group show rafael-test1-ep-filter More than one endpointgroup exists with the name 'rafael-test1-ep-filter'. | 16:53 |
rafaelweingartne | I get an error saying that there are more than one with the same name | 16:54 |
rafaelweingartne | I then, proceeed and use the show command with a uuid | 16:54 |
rafaelweingartne | openstack endpoint group show 0dcfa90ff2c84510a04d1c32fdad7e07 | 16:54 |
rafaelweingartne | and I get this: +-------------+----------------------------------+ | Field | Value | +-------------+----------------------------------+ | description | None | | filters | {u'interface': u'internal'} | | id | 0dcfa90ff2c84510a04d1c32fdad7e07 | | name | rafael-test3-ep-filter | +-------------+---------------------------- | 16:54 |
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lbragstad | for pastes - you can use paste.openstack.org if that helps | 16:55 |
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lbragstad | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/keystone-lib is an interesting idea | 17:07 |
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lbragstad | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone should be relatively clean now | 17:27 |
lbragstad | these are the changes we made | 17:27 |
lbragstad | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-blueprint-cleanup | 17:27 |
lbragstad | i think our next steps are to figure out the migration away from blueprints so i can disable them in launchpad | 17:28 |
lbragstad | and formally documenting out RFE bug process in the template ( kmalloc has a patch up already) and in the contributor guide (still needs to be done) | 17:28 |
lbragstad | s/out/our/ | 17:28 |
lbragstad | then - we need to migrate applicable blueprints to RFE bugs and copy the context | 17:29 |
lbragstad | unless anyone has objections, we'll plan on stein being the last release we use blueprints for | 17:29 |
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lbragstad | documented the next steps on line 79 here - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-blueprint-cleanup | 17:33 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/keystone master: Fix wrong example for direct_maps https://review.openstack.org/635444 | 19:37 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/keystone master: Seperated CADF notifications tests for request_id https://review.openstack.org/635101 | 19:37 |
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gagehugo | our unit tests sure do create a lot of deprecated policy spam :( | 21:21 |
lbragstad | yep - sorry about that | 21:23 |
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lbragstad | wxy-xiyuan http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-February/002674.html | 21:35 |
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