| ayoung | external predated federation. I don't think we ever deprecated it. We should | 00:01 |
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| gyee | ayoung, amen, brother! | 00:02 |
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| gyee | cmurphy, lbragstad, kmalloc, https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1813336 so we can directly get a scoped federated token now? | 00:16 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1813336 in OpenStack Identity (keystone) "Requesting a scoped token when using x509 authentication is redundant" [Medium,Triaged] | 00:16 |
| gyee | I thought with federation, we always start with an unscoped token, then use that to exchange for a scoped token | 00:16 |
| cmurphy | gyee: that example is with external not federation | 00:19 |
| cmurphy | it's going through the regular /v3/auth/tokens endpoint which should allow a scope | 00:20 |
| cmurphy | federated auth always goes through an idp-specific or protocol-specific endpoint | 00:20 |
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| gyee | cmurphy, then I don't understand that bug | 00:22 |
| gyee | are we mixing up password auth with x.509 certificate auth? | 00:22 |
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| cmurphy | gyee: i think it has to do with this part of the tokenless docs https://docs.openstack.org/keystone/latest/admin/configure_tokenless_x509.html#test-it-out-with-curl | 00:36 |
| cmurphy | it's a confusing example because it's validating a token | 00:36 |
| cmurphy | but with external auth you would expect not to need the X-Project-Id header at all and regular scoped auth would work | 00:36 |
| cmurphy | but for some reason it's requiring the header | 00:37 |
| gyee | cmurphy, yes, understood, I've taken that part out | 00:37 |
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| gyee | tokenless auth is designed for middleware to keystone interaction to validate user tokens | 00:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | guang-yee proposed openstack/keystone master: discourage using X.509 with external auth https://review.opendev.org/669959 | 01:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Vishakha Agarwal proposed openstack/keystone master: [WIP] Generate PDF documentation https://review.opendev.org/669982 | 05:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jose Castro Leon proposed openstack/keystone master: Allow to filter endpoint groups by name https://review.opendev.org/658359 | 13:51 |
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| lbragstad | cmurphy bnemec https://review.opendev.org/#/c/669914/ is passing now | 14:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Lance Bragstad proposed openstack/oslo.limit master: Add devstack job to .zuul.conf https://review.opendev.org/670079 | 14:44 |
| lbragstad | cmurphy i might need a sanity check on some of the .zuul.conf stuff | 14:45 |
| lbragstad | i have an idea for another approach, too | 14:45 |
| cmurphy | lbragstad: zuul already commented | 14:46 |
| cmurphy | lbragstad: is this job supposed to do anything other than just run devstack? | 14:47 |
| lbragstad | yeah - so i'm wondering if we need this? | 14:47 |
| cmurphy | you don't need to defined a new project that inherits from devstack if it doesn't do anything beyond what the parent job does | 14:47 |
| lbragstad | right | 14:47 |
| cmurphy | do you would just need to add a new bullet point to check: and gate: in the jobs section | 14:48 |
| cmurphy | jobs section of project: | 14:48 |
| lbragstad | i was going to follow that up with another patch that filled in the blanks and added the limits specific functional setup | 14:48 |
| cmurphy | ah | 14:48 |
| cmurphy | well i would just keep it in the same patch | 14:48 |
| lbragstad | but... now i'm thinking | 14:48 |
| cmurphy | on its own this patch doesn't do anything | 14:48 |
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| lbragstad | right | 14:49 |
| lbragstad | what if we just add oslo.limit functional tests to tempest? | 14:49 |
| lbragstad | and use devstack-tempest in oslo.limits's .zuul.conf? | 14:49 |
| cmurphy | tempest is just for API testing | 14:49 |
| cmurphy | it has its own REST client for that | 14:50 |
| cmurphy | i think more likely you'd want to look at what openstacksdk is doing for functional tests and copy that | 14:50 |
| lbragstad | ah | 14:50 |
| lbragstad | https://opendev.org/openstack/openstacksdk/src/branch/master/openstack/tests/functional | 14:51 |
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| lbragstad | so - https://opendev.org/openstack/openstacksdk/src/branch/master/.zuul.yaml#L100-L118 looks like an example functional definition | 14:53 |
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| cmurphy | ++ | 14:54 |
| bnemec | ^What she said | 14:55 |
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| lbragstad | we could do something similar to https://opendev.org/openstack/openstacksdk/src/branch/master/openstack/tests/functional/base.py#L46 | 14:57 |
| lbragstad | i guess at that point we don't really need anything outside of keystone (from devstack) | 14:57 |
| lbragstad | whenever nova adds support for consuming unified limits, should those tests live in nova's functional tests then? | 14:58 |
| lbragstad | cc johnthetubaguy ^ | 14:58 |
| johnthetubaguy | in my head I was leaving it to unit tests + tempest ones, but that does miss the idea of us hammering the edge cases | 15:01 |
| cmurphy | nova should probably have tempest tests for whatever quota API it exposes to users | 15:01 |
| cmurphy | and yeah maybe some functionl tests for the edge cases | 15:01 |
| johnthetubaguy | cmurphy: +1 | 15:02 |
| johnthetubaguy | in my head its like limit someone to two instance, boot three and make sure only two work, etc | 15:03 |
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| lbragstad | ++ | 15:07 |
| lbragstad | since oslo.limit isn't really the thing implementing half of that code (the stuff in nova), i'm wonder if/where that should live? | 15:08 |
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| kmalloc | ok. so today is maybe coffee shop, they didn't finish construction until well past 6pm last night | 15:46 |
| * kmalloc grumps about this for the next 2-3 months. | 15:47 | |
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| cmurphy | can I plead for reviews on https://review.opendev.org/636786 - we need to release that in order to get the ball rolling on https://review.opendev.org/633369 which is then needed for the access rules stack in keystone | 16:54 |
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| cmurphy | and in general reviews of ksc/ksa/ksm would be good so we can get a release out | 16:55 |
| lbragstad | damn | 17:01 |
| cmurphy | lol | 17:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Lance Bragstad proposed openstack/oslo.limit master: Add devstack job to .zuul.conf https://review.opendev.org/670079 | 17:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/oslo.policy master: Add Python 3 Train unit tests https://review.opendev.org/610122 | 18:22 |
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| cmurphy | kmalloc: could you review this backport to unbreak stable/stein https://review.opendev.org/667105 | 19:31 |
| kmalloc | cmurphy: looking | 19:31 |
| kmalloc | done | 19:32 |
| cmurphy | ty | 19:33 |
| bnemec | Hey, if anyone gets a chance, could you take a quick look at https://review.opendev.org/#/c/662830 ? | 19:42 |
| bnemec | It looks reasonable to me, but I'm not a keystone auth expert so it would be nice if someone who is could sanity check what they're doing. | 19:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-keystoneclient master: Add support for app cred access rules header https://review.opendev.org/636786 | 20:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Colleen Murphy proposed openstack/keystone master: Add exercises for intern applicants https://review.opendev.org/669004 | 20:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-keystoneclient master: Update the constraints url https://review.opendev.org/668796 | 21:10 |
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| cmurphy | kmalloc: knikolla reviewing https://review.opendev.org/669886 which is a duplicate of ps1 of https://review.opendev.org/655166 i think we need to revisit jose's original work, or i need another refresher on why it's not acceptable | 21:26 |
| cmurphy | group membership for federated users is still ephemeral and entirely depends on the mapping driver | 21:26 |
| kmalloc | Oh gah, making my brain work today | 21:27 |
| kmalloc | :P | 21:27 |
| cmurphy | but federated users first of all can't create application credentials at all because the application credential manager uses the list_role_assignments function which goes through the sql driver | 21:27 |
| cmurphy | and therefore doesn't pick up that group membership | 21:27 |
| cmurphy | (that's why we need renewable) | 21:27 |
| kmalloc | Sec, need to type not on mobile. | 21:27 |
| cmurphy | and so then even calling list_role_assignments in the token model wouldn't get those ephemeral group memberships | 21:28 |
| kmalloc | ok | 21:28 |
| cmurphy | kmalloc: no problem i just needed to get that out | 21:28 |
| kmalloc | right, so the reason for the fix was to allow for group permissions to create app creds. however, as i recall, fixing group permission of app-cred creation opened the door to federated users in general being able to, if thye use a group-granted-permission | 21:29 |
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| cmurphy | kmalloc: i have been playing with it and federated users with group-only permissions can't create app creds | 21:30 |
| kmalloc | right, today no one with group perms can | 21:30 |
| cmurphy | incorrect | 21:30 |
| cmurphy | regular users can create them | 21:30 |
| cmurphy | they just are unable to use them | 21:30 |
| kmalloc | hmm. | 21:30 |
| kmalloc | ah | 21:30 |
| kmalloc | that was the weird bit. | 21:31 |
| cmurphy | that's what people keep trying to fix | 21:31 |
| cmurphy | but even with that fix in the token model, that doesn't let federated users create them | 21:31 |
| cmurphy | because the group membership is ephemeral | 21:31 |
| kmalloc | part of CERN's iteration was federated user support as well | 21:31 |
| kmalloc | i think one of the patchsets or some code we looked at was to address that. | 21:32 |
| cmurphy | i'm sure they also want that but https://review.opendev.org/#/c/655166/1/keystone/models/token_model.py doesn't do that | 21:32 |
| kmalloc | and opened doors that couldn't be done until we have the expiration | 21:32 |
| kmalloc | hm. there was something else. | 21:33 |
| kmalloc | shrug | 21:33 |
| kmalloc | we can land it, i certainly can't remember now. i know there was some reason we couldn't do it, but maybe that was other code | 21:34 |
| kmalloc | as long as we are certain we aren't getting federated user app creds, we're good...until expiration | 21:35 |
| cmurphy | okay i'm gonna repropose ps1 of 655166 and we can continue the discussion there | 21:35 |
| kmalloc | sure. | 21:35 |
| * kmalloc gets back to code shuffling | 21:35 | |
| kmalloc | the code shuffle is real for trying to get these resource options centralized | 21:35 |
| kmalloc | =/ | 21:35 |
| kmalloc | the migrations were remarkably easy | 21:36 |
| kmalloc | it's ... the rest of the code that isn't | 21:36 |
| cmurphy | :) | 21:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Colleen Murphy proposed openstack/keystone master: Allows to use application credentials through group membership https://review.opendev.org/655166 | 21:47 |
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| cmurphy | ptg attendance show of hands http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-July/007639.html | 22:16 |
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