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openstackgerrit | Colleen Murphy proposed openstack/keystone-tempest-plugin master: WIP/PoC:Add RBAC tests https://review.opendev.org/686305 | 00:50 |
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openstackgerrit | Vishakha Agarwal proposed openstack/keystone-tempest-plugin master: Drop py3.5 from tempest plugins https://review.opendev.org/705887 | 06:04 |
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openstackgerrit | Hervé Beraud proposed openstack/oslo.limit master: [ussuri][goal] Drop python 2.7 support and testing https://review.opendev.org/705712 | 13:24 |
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cmurphy | lbragstad: stable review if you have a sec https://review.opendev.org/705862 it happens to fix the broken federation jobs by adding the xmlsec1 package | 15:52 |
lbragstad | cmurphy nice - thanks | 15:53 |
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njohnston | cmurphy: Hi! I was wondering if you could take another look at https://review.opendev.org/#/c/508659/ whenever it is convenient for you. | 16:09 |
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cmurphy | njohnston: will do | 16:29 |
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njohnston | thanks cmurphy! | 16:46 |
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raildo | cmurphy, hey, how you doing? I just added a topic in the next team meeting: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-weekly-meeting we were discussing the possibility to avoid anyone who isn't using a domain-scoped token to create a project and doesn't supply domain_id in the project reference, to automatically place that project in the default domain | 17:30 |
raildo | cmurphy, I believe that we should raise an exception on this last scenario, but we can discuss more about it during the meeting :) | 17:31 |
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cmurphy | raildo: okay thanks for the headsup | 17:42 |
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lbragstad | cmurphy do we have a documented example of using application credentials from clouds.yaml? | 19:36 |
lbragstad | i feel like i've asked this before, but i can't find it | 19:36 |
cmurphy | lbragstad: i don't think we do | 19:36 |
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openstackgerrit | Lance Bragstad proposed openstack/keystone master: Add domain admin grant test cases https://review.opendev.org/706120 | 21:25 |
lbragstad | cmurphy that should be possible right ^ ? | 21:25 |
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lbragstad | because if it is, we might want to consider changing the policy for list_roles? | 21:32 |
lbragstad | https://opendev.org/openstack/keystone/src/branch/master/keystone/common/policies/role.py#L81-L92 | 21:34 |
lbragstad | python-openstackclient seems to fail when domain admins do `openstack role add` commands regardless of using the role ID or the role name, because it attempts to list the roles | 21:35 |
cmurphy | could've sworn we had a test for that | 21:39 |
cmurphy | but makes sense that osc would behave that way, i think it does something similar for trusts that's very unfriendly | 21:39 |
cmurphy | relatedly i was surprised that credentials don't work for domain users https://review.opendev.org/#/c/686305/18/keystone_tempest_plugin/tests/rbac/v3/test_credentials.py@353 | 21:41 |
lbragstad | yeah - i mean we allow domain users to add roles to things within their authorization, which is good... but we just don't let them discover the roles | 21:43 |
lbragstad | so - they'd have to do it manually with curl | 21:43 |
lbragstad | iff they know the role id | 21:43 |
cmurphy | yuck | 21:45 |
lbragstad | mhm | 21:46 |
lbragstad | should we let domain admins list all roles? | 21:56 |
lbragstad | i mean - we'd be letting them see all roles in the deployment | 21:57 |
cmurphy | i don't think domain admins should get special system-level powers just for being domain admins, i think the better question is should roles just be public information to anyone authenticated | 21:58 |
cmurphy | to which - i'm not sure | 21:58 |
lbragstad | i mean - i saw a lot of power in letting domain admins manage role assignments for entities within their domain | 21:59 |
lbragstad | but - if don't let them discover roles, then it shoots the usability of that out of the air | 22:00 |
lbragstad | i'm torn | 22:00 |
cmurphy | yeah | 22:00 |
cmurphy | hmm i was gonna say operators could override it if they want to but they can't override scope_types | 22:01 |
lbragstad | right | 22:04 |
lbragstad | i mean, operators could have global roles around for other domains (circumventing domain-specific roles) | 22:05 |
lbragstad | if we open that up for domain-admins, some might consider that a violation of tenancy | 22:05 |
cmurphy | right, imo it is | 22:07 |
lbragstad | i'm inclined to agree | 22:07 |
lbragstad | so - do we keep the grant API open to domain users too? | 22:07 |
lbragstad | or do we leave it as is? | 22:07 |
cmurphy | well i think it's too late to change it | 22:09 |
lbragstad | i mean - if a system operator trusts a domain admin | 22:10 |
lbragstad | they could be like "here's the ID of the reader, member, and admin roles... dole them out to people within your jurisdiction as you see fit" | 22:11 |
cmurphy | if we're only talking about the default roles then technically the domain admin could discover that themself by examining their own token, they would have all three ids in there | 22:12 |
lbragstad | oh - yeah, great point | 22:12 |
lbragstad | it's kinda like having to crawl under your car to start it, but whatever | 22:12 |
cmurphy | and if we're talking about other roles and the system admin wants to grant domain admins rights on a case by case basis then they could do some legwork of mirroring certain roles into the domain | 22:13 |
lbragstad | sure | 22:13 |
lbragstad | and we have protection testing to make sure domain users can't do anything outside their domain | 22:13 |
lbragstad | so it's still kinda self-service... | 22:14 |
cmurphy | yeah | 22:14 |
lbragstad | ok - so TL;DR, leave it be | 22:15 |
cmurphy | that'd be my vote | 22:16 |
lbragstad | ok | 22:16 |
lbragstad | sweet - thanks for the help cmurphy | 22:16 |
cmurphy | o7 | 22:16 |
cmurphy | lbragstad: while i have you here, some more stable backports: https://review.opendev.org/706087 https://review.opendev.org/706088 - second depends on the first | 22:20 |
lbragstad | cmurphy cool - both look good to me | 22:25 |
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