HyperJohnGraham | rhallisey kube-controller-manager[4962]: E0725 16:58:01.119872 4962 controllermanager.go:205] Failed to start service controller: ServiceController should not be run without a cloudprovider. | 00:02 |
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HyperJohnGraham | I am getting close | 00:02 |
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HyperJohnGraham | all the other services start clean | 00:02 |
HyperJohnGraham | etcd kube-apiserver kube-scheduler .... just kube-controller-manager complaining | 00:04 |
rhallisey | I've seen this too | 00:06 |
rhallisey | HyperJohnGraham, I think you can still run your services | 00:06 |
HyperJohnGraham | right you are !! | 00:07 |
HyperJohnGraham | [root@gateway ~]# kubectl get nodes | 00:07 |
HyperJohnGraham | NAME LABELS STATUS AGE | 00:07 |
HyperJohnGraham | centos-minion kubernetes.io/hostname=centos-minion Ready 17m | 00:07 |
HyperJohnGraham | ok back to your doc | 00:07 |
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HyperJohnGraham | rebuilding containers for fun | 00:16 |
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openstackgerrit | qinchunhua proposed openstack/kolla: Fix dict.values() PY3 compatible https://review.openstack.org/345706 | 00:53 |
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sdake | hey folks i have bad news | 00:59 |
sdake | our mascot is under contention from another team | 00:59 |
sdake | to be decided by coin flip :) | 00:59 |
sdake | the way my luck is running we will end up with a rat as a mascot | 00:59 |
rhallisey | what other team? | 01:00 |
sdake | smaug | 01:00 |
rhallisey | .. | 01:00 |
inc0 | omg | 01:00 |
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rhallisey | can we pick a whale | 01:00 |
inc0 | they should have a frickin dragon | 01:00 |
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sdake | they are being renamed | 01:00 |
sdake | to something related to koala bears | 01:01 |
sdake | anyway dont bitch at them eveyrone has a right to a choice in their team mascot | 01:01 |
inc0 | WE ARE ALREADY NAMED RELATED TO KOALA BEARS! | 01:01 |
inc0 | but we are obviously superior | 01:01 |
sdake | in big tent, every project is equal | 01:01 |
inc0 | we're equaler | 01:02 |
sdake | lol | 01:02 |
sdake | inc0++ | 01:02 |
inc0 | I have fallback | 01:03 |
inc0 | a narwhal | 01:03 |
inc0 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykwqXuMPsoc | 01:03 |
sdake | honey badger | 01:04 |
sdake | narwal would run up against trademark shit | 01:04 |
inc0 | nah, they're nasty | 01:05 |
inc0 | how so? | 01:05 |
inc0 | how narwhal is trademarked? | 01:05 |
sdake | docker thinks whale = docker | 01:05 |
inc0 | whale != narwhal | 01:05 |
inc0 | these are different animals | 01:05 |
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sdake | oh i thought it was a whale | 01:05 |
rhallisey | yes honey badger | 01:05 |
sdake | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r7wHMg5Yjg | 01:06 |
inc0 | oh, I know! | 01:06 |
inc0 | a cassowary | 01:06 |
inc0 | http://uberhumor.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/UAwoeN2.jpg | 01:06 |
inc0 | narwhales are like unicorn whales | 01:08 |
inc0 | which makes them better whales | 01:08 |
sdake | inc0 i htik you missed my joke int he honey badger joke | 01:08 |
inc0 | I might | 01:09 |
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HyperJohnGraham | returned[job "mariadb-bootstrap" created | 01:09 |
HyperJohnGraham | getting very close now | 01:09 |
sdake | rather honey badget video | 01:10 |
rhallisey | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r7wHMg5Yjg | 01:10 |
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HyperJohnGraham | The Job "keystone-bootstrap" is invalid. | 01:36 |
HyperJohnGraham | * spec.template.spec.containers[0].image: Required value | 01:36 |
HyperJohnGraham | * spec.template.spec.containers[1].image: Required value | 01:36 |
HyperJohnGraham | ok now i am stuck :) | 01:36 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-kubernetes: KubeUtils get_api_url fix https://review.openstack.org/347013 | 01:46 |
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sdake | HyperJohnGraham what platform are you on | 01:54 |
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openstackgerrit | Li Yingjun proposed openstack/kolla: Check enable_mongodb for ceilometer https://review.openstack.org/345881 | 02:59 |
openstackgerrit | Ken Johnston proposed openstack/kolla: Minor Readability Adjustments to Operating Kolla https://review.openstack.org/347099 | 03:00 |
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openstackgerrit | Ken Johnston proposed openstack/kolla: Readability Improvements to Advanced Config Doc https://review.openstack.org/347102 | 03:10 |
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derekjhyang | good morning | 03:21 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla: Customizations for cron https://review.openstack.org/346826 | 03:30 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla: Fix Wording and Typos in Deployment Philosophy https://review.openstack.org/347002 | 03:35 |
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HyperJohnGraham | [root@gateway ~]# kubectl get nodes now sees 8 nodes ! | 04:48 |
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openstackgerrit | Martin Falatic proposed openstack/kolla: Customizations for ceilometer https://review.openstack.org/347005 | 05:32 |
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openstackgerrit | Wei Cao proposed openstack/kolla: Ubuntu with systemd support https://review.openstack.org/346900 | 06:10 |
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openstackgerrit | Md Nadeem proposed openstack/kolla: Added Dockerfile for congress https://review.openstack.org/305626 | 06:19 |
mdnadeem_ | Jeffrey4l, coolsvap , Can you please review PS https://review.openstack.org/#/c/335797/ | 06:22 |
patchbot | mdnadeem_: patch 335797 - kolla - Added unit test for volume operations | 06:22 |
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coolsvap | mdnadeem_: will do | 06:28 |
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mdnadeem_ | coolsvap, thanks :) | 06:32 |
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openstackgerrit | Asha proposed openstack/kolla: Customizations for mongodb https://review.openstack.org/347073 | 06:48 |
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prithiv | can someone review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/344930/5 please. I propose to have a separate macro for pip installation in macro.j2 file. since there is no yum or apt-get installation cadidate for SFC | 07:25 |
patchbot | prithiv: patch 344930 - kolla - Docker files for Networking-SFC Container | 07:25 |
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coolsvap | prithiv1: i have started the mailing list discussion as discussed | 07:38 |
openstackgerrit | qinchunhua proposed openstack/kolla: Python 3: dict.iteritems() https://review.openstack.org/346294 | 07:38 |
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prithiv1 | thank you | 07:51 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla: Added unit test for volume operations https://review.openstack.org/335797 | 07:53 |
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openstackgerrit | Swapnil Kulkarni (coolsvap) proposed openstack/kolla: Make kolla-build list-dependencies option work https://review.openstack.org/347169 | 07:58 |
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openstackgerrit | Li Yingjun proposed openstack/kolla: Fixes Dockerfile for neutron-lbaas-agent https://review.openstack.org/345843 | 08:08 |
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openstackgerrit | Wei Cao proposed openstack/kolla: Ubuntu with systemd support https://review.openstack.org/346900 | 08:35 |
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mewald | morning | 09:21 |
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openstackgerrit | Prithiv proposed openstack/kolla: Dockerfile for Networking-SFC Container https://review.openstack.org/344930 | 09:31 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla: Fixes Dockerfile for neutron-lbaas-agent https://review.openstack.org/345843 | 09:43 |
mewald | not a lot going on here today hmm? | 09:45 |
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openstackgerrit | Mathias proposed openstack/kolla: Added telegraf role https://review.openstack.org/346448 | 09:51 |
openstackgerrit | Mathias proposed openstack/kolla: Added telegraf container https://review.openstack.org/346445 | 09:51 |
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openstackgerrit | Mathias proposed openstack/kolla: Added telegraf role https://review.openstack.org/346448 | 10:14 |
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openstackgerrit | Mathias proposed openstack/kolla: Added influxdb container https://review.openstack.org/346446 | 10:48 |
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openstackgerrit | Eduardo Gonzalez proposed openstack/kolla: Implement customizations for heat-api-cfn container https://review.openstack.org/347283 | 11:42 |
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openstackgerrit | Eduardo Gonzalez proposed openstack/kolla: Implement customizations for heat-api-cfn container https://review.openstack.org/347283 | 11:44 |
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openstackgerrit | Mathias proposed openstack/kolla: Added influxdb container https://review.openstack.org/346446 | 12:12 |
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openstackgerrit | Richard Winters proposed openstack/kolla: This patchset contains customization of Dockerfile of openvswitch containers https://review.openstack.org/346837 | 12:30 |
openstackgerrit | qinchunhua proposed openstack/kolla: Python 3: dict.iteritems() https://review.openstack.org/346294 | 12:41 |
openstackgerrit | qinchunhua proposed openstack/kolla: Python 3: dict.iteritems() https://review.openstack.org/346294 | 12:42 |
openstackgerrit | qinchunhua proposed openstack/kolla: Fix dict.values() PY3 compatible https://review.openstack.org/345706 | 12:43 |
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openstackgerrit | Eduardo Gonzalez proposed openstack/kolla: Implement customizations for heat-api-cfn container https://review.openstack.org/347283 | 13:39 |
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openstackgerrit | Patrick Powell proposed openstack/kolla: Clean up Glance image after sanity check https://review.openstack.org/347409 | 14:03 |
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openstackgerrit | Dennis Mueller proposed openstack/kolla: Added neutron-metering-agent https://review.openstack.org/346629 | 14:09 |
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openstackgerrit | Patrick Powell proposed openstack/kolla: Clean up Glance image after sanity check https://review.openstack.org/347409 | 14:13 |
openstackgerrit | Patrick Powell proposed openstack/kolla: Add Nova sanity check https://review.openstack.org/347416 | 14:13 |
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sdake_ | Jeffrey4l ping | 14:22 |
Jeffrey4l | sdake_, pong | 14:22 |
sdake_ | got this question privately | 14:22 |
sdake_ | Hi Steven | 14:22 |
sdake_ | I see that in kolla Liberty code we just have nova-manage db sync even though you create both nova database and nova api database​ | 14:22 |
sdake_ | Any idea why you dont do nova-manage api_db sync in kolla in Liberty to create the tables in the api database? | 14:22 |
sdake_ | any idea how to respond? | 14:22 |
Jeffrey4l | in the nova liberty, there is not api db . | 14:23 |
sdake_ | is this just a bug, or does the db sync for nova-manage do both jobs? | 14:23 |
sdake_ | apparently nova api database is created | 14:23 |
Jeffrey4l | nova api db is introduced in mitaka. | 14:23 |
sdake_ | maybe its a bug then that the api database is created | 14:23 |
* Jeffrey4l is checking the kolla code | 14:24 | |
sdake_ | its definately in there | 14:25 |
sdake_ | thanks i know how to respond atleast :) | 14:25 |
Jeffrey4l | 1. kolla liberty do not create the api db, and not call the nova-manage api_db sync. this is correct. | 14:26 |
Jeffrey4l | 2. nova api db is introduced in the mitaka release, see this http://docs.openstack.org/releasenotes/nova/mitaka.html#id2 | 14:26 |
sdake_ | thanks Jeffrey4l | 14:27 |
Jeffrey4l | hmm. the nova api database shouldn't be created in the liberty. | 14:27 |
Jeffrey4l | :D | 14:27 |
sdake_ | yes that is what i j ust sasid :) | 14:27 |
sdake_ | remember how we made liberty | 14:27 |
Jeffrey4l | know that. | 14:27 |
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coolsvap | sdake_: hi | 14:28 |
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sdake_ | hey coolsvap | 14:28 |
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coolsvap | sdake_: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-July/100024.html | 14:32 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla: Fix 'reconfigure' command of kolla https://review.openstack.org/344400 | 14:42 |
sdake_ | inc0 where was that philosophy document review | 14:42 |
sdake_ | i wanted to make sure the wording wasn't fubared | 14:42 |
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coolsvap | sdake_: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/347002/ | 14:47 |
patchbot | coolsvap: patch 347002 - kolla - Fix Wording and Typos in Deployment Philosophy (MERGED) | 14:47 |
sdake_ | thanks coolsvap | 14:47 |
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sdake_ | mewald's screnshots of monitoring look pretty hot ;) | 14:47 |
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mewald | thanks :) when I get the patches through I will start working on automatically generated dashboards to have something nice right after deployment 8-) | 14:49 |
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wznoinsk | hi all, do you know whether cloud-init via metadata service deployed with neutron/openvswitch is now working when deployed using kolla? | 14:55 |
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sdake_ | it was always working | 14:56 |
sdake_ | from over 2 years ago | 14:56 |
sdake_ | wznoinsk you may have been on master and struggled with that | 14:56 |
wznoinsk | ok, then it may be because I'm not using private network hence no router namespace which it usually is configured in | 14:56 |
sdake_ | wznoinsk another problem that can happen is runnign in a vm without multicast support | 14:57 |
wznoinsk | tested with guest VMs of cirros and ubuntu-trusty modified by nodepool (very similar to upstream nodepool VM) and I have controller in a VMs as well, would that support be in linux/openvswitch configuration of bridges? | 14:59 |
wznoinsk | sdake_: ^ | 14:59 |
sdake_ | would which support | 15:00 |
wznoinsk | multicast | 15:00 |
sdake_ | multicast is required by keepalived | 15:00 |
sdake_ | it assigns the ip address to the control and compute nodes | 15:00 |
sdake_ | if your vm infrastructure doesn't have multicast enabled, no beuno | 15:01 |
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sdake_ | what is your vm infrastructure? | 15:01 |
wznoinsk | don't use keepalived here | 15:01 |
sdake_ | you have enable_haproxy disabled? | 15:01 |
wznoinsk | '/etc/kolla/globals.yml:enable_haproxy: "no" | 15:02 |
sdake_ | ok well then its not multicast | 15:02 |
sdake_ | i dont understand how kolla operates without enable_haproxy - but my guess is not well :) | 15:02 |
sdake_ | anyway back to your original problem | 15:03 |
sdake_ | [07:59:14] <wznoinsk>tested with guest VMs of cirros and ubuntu-trusty modified by nodepool (very similar to upstream nodepool VM) and I have controller in a VMs as well, would that support be in linux/openvswitch configuration of bridges? | 15:03 |
sdake_ | would which support be in linux/openvswitch? | 15:03 |
wznoinsk | I thought openvswitch may have a multicast option that's blocking here | 15:04 |
sdake_ | oh nope - i think the problem is probably with your vm networking setup | 15:05 |
sdake_ | any opportunityt to try bare metal? | 15:05 |
sdake_ | kolla doesnt make a mess out of your system | 15:05 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla: updates default registry tag to latest version https://review.openstack.org/345166 | 15:05 |
wznoinsk | bare metal later, first fixing cloud-init in my VMs in CI ;-) | 15:05 |
wznoinsk | oh sorry, I have 5 physical servers with kolla straight on it | 15:06 |
sdake_ | oh so kolla wfu, just not in your ci jobs | 15:06 |
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wznoinsk | I have a kolla deployed to 6 machines, a controller is a VM + 5 compute physical nodes, it works just fine, two NICs in controller VM via macvtap/mavclan etc., it works fine except for cloud-init | 15:09 |
sdake_ | wznoinsk so you are running vms on openstack on a 5 node kolla deploy | 15:09 |
sdake_ | oh gotcha | 15:09 |
sdake_ | ok - well thanks or communicating that :) | 15:09 |
sdake_ | are you using liberty or mitaka or master? | 15:09 |
wznoinsk | mitaka | 15:09 |
inc0 | good morning | 15:10 |
sdake_ | that should work | 15:10 |
sdake_ | morning inc0 | 15:10 |
wznoinsk | hi Michal | 15:10 |
inc0 | sdake_, the review I mentioned earlier? nah it wasnt | 15:10 |
inc0 | czesc Waldek:) | 15:10 |
sdake_ | ya i already read it | 15:10 |
wznoinsk | sdake_: I don't use private network in my Openstack cloud, I see some redirect/allow rules for metadata traffic (to/from 169.254.169.254) in deployments that use private network in qrouter namespace - they are missing obviously from my setup | 15:11 |
sdake_ | ok well your running enable_haproxy: no | 15:11 |
sdake_ | but you have multiple nodes? | 15:12 |
wznoinsk | trying to find out the missing piece | 15:12 |
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wznoinsk | sdake_: I may try enabling proxying someday but atm if the controller VMs is down the whole CI is also down (on the same VM) so for the moment don't mind it without haproxy | 15:13 |
sdake_ | i dont think multinode will work without haproxy | 15:13 |
inc0 | sdake_, well, it will work | 15:14 |
sdake_ | actually I dont know | 15:14 |
inc0 | you need to have external LB tho | 15:14 |
inc0 | which is good thing to have | 15:14 |
sdake_ | inc0 there is only 1 controller node | 15:14 |
inc0 | sdake_, no | 15:14 |
sdake_ | he wants to run with 1 controller 5 compute no haproxy | 15:14 |
inc0 | ok, that's also cool | 15:15 |
inc0 | just make kolla_internal_vip=<<ip of controller) | 15:15 |
sdake_ | ok well something about wznoinsk network is busted | 15:15 |
wznoinsk | correction: I'm running it for last 4months ;-) | 15:15 |
wznoinsk | well on mitaka rc first | 15:15 |
sdake_ | his vms are not getting link local from neutron | 15:15 |
wznoinsk | should there be route inside the VM? I thought it's redirected to metadata service on the network nodes | 15:16 |
wznoinsk | I'll let you know if I have something, maybe it's my setup | 15:17 |
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sdake_ | i'm not sure - but doesn't super sound like a kolla problem | 15:17 |
sdake_ | not saying its not | 15:18 |
sdake_ | but i'm at a loss as to how to further debug | 15:18 |
wznoinsk | sure, I came here asking cause I heard something to use config drive cause cloud-init with metadata service in kola is broken/rpblematic, sounds like it's not the case | 15:18 |
sdake_ | your vms have worked fine for 4 months and now they busted? | 15:18 |
wznoinsk | sdake_: cloud-init never worked there tbh, never bothered to fix it till now | 15:18 |
sdake_ | wznoinsk i have heard various things about cloud-init with config drive or without - have hard time pinning down any exact problems | 15:19 |
sdake_ | Jeffrey4l ping | 15:19 |
Jeffrey4l | sdake_, sup | 15:19 |
sdake_ | tried cloud-init with kolla mitaka lately? | 15:20 |
Jeffrey4l | yes. | 15:20 |
sdake_ | works? | 15:20 |
Jeffrey4l | sdake_, if u just have a subnet without router, it do not works. :( | 15:20 |
sdake_ | wznoinsk ^ | 15:21 |
sdake_ | should it be working in that case? | 15:21 |
sdake_ | Ihought neutron always needed a router | 15:21 |
sdake_ | that sounds like a neutron bug to me - not really a kolla bug | 15:22 |
Jeffrey4l | it won't work with a router connected, unless set force the dhcp start the metadata: | 15:22 |
Jeffrey4l | like | 15:22 |
Jeffrey4l | enable_isolated_metadata = true | 15:22 |
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Jeffrey4l | i am thinking should we enable this in kolla in default. | 15:23 |
sdake_ | if it doesn't break anything then yes | 15:24 |
sdake_ | what is the impact of the default vs the nondefault | 15:24 |
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Jeffrey4l | sdake_, the only one i think is: it will start many neutron-metadata-agent when you have many networks. | 15:25 |
sdake_ | Jeffrey4l can you help wznoinsk test out your fix - if it solves his problem we should merge it and backport it | 15:26 |
Jeffrey4l | sdake_, np | 15:26 |
Jeffrey4l | wznoinsk, I will push a PS and could u try locally? | 15:27 |
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Jeffrey4l | a `kolla-ansible reconfigure -t neutron` will work. | 15:27 |
sdake_ | Jeffrey4l this bug is super critical imo - please post a message on the ml explaining the issue and pointing to the patchset and indicating a zstream will be avialable around m3, but in the meantime the workaround is here: | 15:27 |
sdake_ | assuming wznoinsk 's fix works | 15:28 |
sdake_ | tia :) | 15:28 |
Jeffrey4l | roger that. | 15:28 |
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Mech422 | Morning | 15:35 |
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Jeffrey4l | Morning | 15:36 |
Jeffrey4l | wznoinsk, could u try this PS? https://review.openstack.org/347457 | 15:37 |
sdake_ | morning Mech422 | 15:37 |
Jeffrey4l | sdake_, fyi the fix is pushed https://review.openstack.org/347457 | 15:37 |
sdake_ | needs bug id Jeffrey4l | 15:38 |
sdake_ | at some point | 15:38 |
Jeffrey4l | I will add that when sbezverk_ tried it. | 15:38 |
Jeffrey4l | :D | 15:38 |
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Mech422 | blah - looks like I'm gonna be busy for the next couple of weeks 'porting' our QA cluster to kolla ... | 15:52 |
Mech422 | I'll be spinning builds for testing, but probably wont have time for much else | 15:52 |
sdake_ | sounds like fun | 15:54 |
sdake_ | so its a brownfield cluster? | 15:54 |
sdake_ | Mech422 people keenly want documentation on how to deploy a brownfield cluster in kolla | 15:55 |
Mech422 | sdake_: sorta - I've got to replicate the functionality of the existing QA cluster, but I _can_ wipe the boxes if needed | 15:55 |
sdake_ | if you write up your experiences, blog, docs, etc - would help :) | 15:55 |
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Mech422 | sdake_: Hmm - I was going to just kill openstack on the nodes, install docker and run kolla... | 15:56 |
Mech422 | sdake_: suppose I could try 'migrating' one service at a time | 15:56 |
Mech422 | sdake_: thats gonna get funky with DBs and rabbitmq and stuff though | 15:56 |
sdake_ | Jeffrey4l wanted to talk to you about monitoring - still around? | 15:56 |
inc0 | Mech422, so db might be good actually | 15:56 |
inc0 | mysqldump for the win | 15:56 |
Jeffrey4l | sdake_, yep | 15:57 |
sdake_ | Jeffrey4l it looks like the community for the moment is heading for a tick stack | 15:57 |
sdake_ | daviey seems more interested in letting sensu go and letting tick develop | 15:57 |
inc0 | rabbitmq....so I think if you make sure that nothing is happening in the cluster you can just wipe it | 15:57 |
sdake_ | however, we still haven't come to conclusion on one stack versus two | 15:57 |
inc0 | and redeploy | 15:57 |
sdake_ | but the key thing is, can you not -2 their changes :) | 15:58 |
Jeffrey4l | removed my -2 | 15:58 |
Jeffrey4l | the bad news is I am not familiar with the monitor tool. | 15:59 |
Mech422 | inc0: eh - I can try it - I can basically down the cluster from friday nights to monday morning for 'maintenance' | 15:59 |
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Mech422 | inc0: and _nothing_ is guarranteed to be preserved past friday till newton is finalize | 16:00 |
sdake_ | Jeffrey4l me either | 16:00 |
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sdake_ | Jeffrey4l tick screenshots are on the ml | 16:00 |
sdake_ | Jeffrey4l and it looks pretty solid from that | 16:00 |
sdake_ | i am going to pul lthe patches today and take a look | 16:00 |
sdake_ | suggest you do same when you ahve a chance | 16:00 |
Jeffrey4l | sdake_, it is the grafana screenshots. actually, each monitor who use the grafana can show that kind of the picture. | 16:01 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla: Allow custom configurations for ceilometer https://review.openstack.org/346273 | 16:02 |
Jeffrey4l | what I concert is the performance of the background db and monitor tool, which i have no idea for this :( | 16:02 |
Jeffrey4l | *concern | 16:02 |
sdake_ | influxdb supposed to be fastesst one | 16:03 |
Jeffrey4l | actually, my company use the influxdb, too. | 16:03 |
Mech422 | sdake_: yeah - part of the problem is I don't really think many people use 'pure' stacks | 16:03 |
Mech422 | sdake_: for instance a lot of people use graphite with influxdb back | 16:03 |
Jeffrey4l | i will try that patchset. ( tomorrow.)_ | 16:03 |
Mech422 | sdake_: OpenTSDB has some traction too | 16:04 |
sdake_ | well whatever comes out of the community naturally i think is the best way to proceed | 16:04 |
Mech422 | sdake_: and 'collectors' is all over the place - telegraf, diamond, collectd/statsd | 16:04 |
sdake_ | rather then making dictates on technology | 16:04 |
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Mech422 | yeah - just mean we may want to look at installing the pieces seperately | 16:05 |
sdake_ | ya - enable_foo | 16:05 |
Jeffrey4l | what's the openstack recmmanded? or what the tools the fuel choose? | 16:05 |
Mech422 | so you can select diamond, with graphite and influxdb backend (for instance) | 16:05 |
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sdake_ | no idea what fuel uses | 16:08 |
sdake_ | elemoine probably did a rockin job on the implementation though so we have our work cut out for us :) | 16:09 |
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sdake_ | i am not super familr with telegraf, but hae used collectd | 16:10 |
sdake_ | and like it | 16:10 |
Jeffrey4l | me too. | 16:10 |
sdake_ | i think its safe to say we will end up with multiple ldata sources | 16:11 |
sdake_ | rather metrics forwarders | 16:11 |
sdake_ | Mech422 that screenshot on the mialing list is grafana right? | 16:12 |
wznoinsk | Jeffrey4l: sdake, that's what I thought - no router = metadata doesn't work, will give the patch a go now | 16:12 |
Jeffrey4l | wznoinsk, thanks. | 16:12 |
sdake_ | wznoinsk thanks for bringing this to our attention | 16:12 |
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HyperJohnGraham | [root@gateway ~]# kubectl get nodes ceph-os-01 Ready 11h ceph-os-02 Ready 11h ceph-os-03 Ready 11h ceph-os-04 Ready 11h ceph-os-05 Ready 11h ceph-os-06 Ready 11h ceph-os-07 Ready 11h ceph-os-08 Ready 11h | 16:13 |
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HyperJohnGraham | getting close last night | 16:13 |
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sdake_ | HyperJohnGraham you left a message around 6pm pst | 16:13 |
sdake_ | andi i responded, but you logged out i think | 16:13 |
sdake_ | was there something you had a question about (forgot context) | 16:13 |
Jeffrey4l | what the metrics forwarder is ? sdake_ | 16:14 |
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sdake_ | Jeffrey4l i haven't looked at the patches | 16:14 |
Jeffrey4l | ok. | 16:14 |
sdake_ | someone said we were using a tick stack | 16:14 |
sdake_ | pretty sure it was daviey | 16:14 |
Jeffrey4l | multiple data source means: for example kolla may have collectd and telegraf? | 16:15 |
sdake_ | Jeffrey4l roger | 16:16 |
sdake_ | only8 one on at a time | 16:16 |
sdake_ | but ya ability to run both at each level | 16:16 |
sdake_ | or wathever the choices are that people care about | 16:16 |
Jeffrey4l | i think choice is OK. But run both at the same time is a little redundance. | 16:17 |
sdake_ | no we wont run both at same time | 16:18 |
sdake_ | i dont even think that would work | 16:18 |
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Jeffrey4l | clearly. | 16:19 |
sdake_ | mewald around? | 16:20 |
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sdake_ | Mech422 do you know what stack mewald has produced thus far? | 16:21 |
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openstackgerrit | Jeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla: Use the node_custom_config variable in the config.yml file https://review.openstack.org/347474 | 16:22 |
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sdake_ | looks to me like we have a tig stack atm | 16:24 |
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HyperJohnGraham | sdake_ I am at "Build Kolla Images and Push to Docker Registry" point in the doc rhallisey provided. https://github.com/openstack/kolla-kubernetes/blob/master/doc/source/multi-node.rst#build-kolla-images-and-push-to-docker-registry | 16:24 |
sdake_ | HyperJohnGraham are you a developer or operator | 16:25 |
sdake_ | or both | 16:25 |
sdake_ | do you intend to operate a cloud, or develop for kolla-kubernetes is what i'm really getting at | 16:25 |
HyperJohnGraham | i had to get kubectl get nodes working before going any further | 16:26 |
HyperJohnGraham | I was getting | 16:26 |
sdake_ | 1 minute lag on irc - impressive :) | 16:27 |
HyperJohnGraham | The Job "keystone-bootstrap" is invalid. | 16:27 |
HyperJohnGraham | spec.template.spec.containers[0].image: Required value | 16:27 |
HyperJohnGraham | spec.template.spec.containers[1].image: Required value | 16:27 |
mewald1 | sdake_: yeah tig ^^ nobody I know is familiar with chronograph but they are with grafana. I assumed thats a general rule ;) | 16:27 |
sdake_ | mewald1 in the end youa re aiming for tigk? | 16:27 |
sdake_ | mewald1 familiarly helps make merges go faster i'll give you that :) | 16:28 |
mewald1 | sdake_: the k is still in question. I dont know k and if somebody else creates sensu containers we would have two alerting capable components | 16:28 |
mewald1 | dunno if that's a good idea .. we have to discuss that | 16:28 |
sdake_ | Daviey had indicated he is not making sensu containers because your work is further in scope then he had in mind | 16:29 |
mewald1 | but surely K alerts on anomalies while sensu does static thresholds | 16:29 |
HyperJohnGraham | sdake_ I work for UCSD and will be operating a high performance experimental system | 16:29 |
mewald1 | ah ok, I thought I expressed that I believe sensu is necessary for availability monitoring still | 16:30 |
sdake_ | HyperJohnGraham cool - if you want an openstack cloud you can deploy today, may I point you at kolla (the ansible version) | 16:30 |
sdake_ | kolla-kubernetes is a far way off from being usable day to day | 16:30 |
sdake_ | it is still under super heavy dev | 16:30 |
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sdake_ | if you want to contribute code to kolla-kubernetes (as in that is your objective) then proceeding as you are is the right approach | 16:31 |
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HyperJohnGraham | i see | 16:31 |
HyperJohnGraham | How long till kolla-kubernetes is ~beta ? | 16:33 |
sdake_ | HyperJohnGraham unknown | 16:33 |
sdake_ | HyperJohnGraham atlast to me | 16:34 |
sdake_ | rhallisey ^^ | 16:34 |
sdake_ | my guess is 3-9 months | 16:34 |
sdake_ | but that is pure speculation | 16:34 |
sdake_ | based upon 20 years of experience ;) | 16:34 |
HyperJohnGraham | ok cool | 16:34 |
sdake_ | kolla-ansible is ready today | 16:34 |
sdake_ | it really rocks | 16:34 |
sean-k-m1 | sdake_: i was about to say probably ocata release before it reachs parity with kolla-ansible today | 16:35 |
HyperJohnGraham | yup I had it running before i dove in to kolla-kubernetes | 16:35 |
sdake_ | if you want a k8s based solution there is nothign available today that hits that checkbox :) | 16:35 |
HyperJohnGraham | :) | 16:35 |
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sdake_ | ya i'd expect it to start looking more like a kolla project by occata for sure | 16:36 |
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Mech422 | sdake_: I think so far mewald has Telegraf, Influxdb from the TICK stack (missing kapacitor for alerting and Chronograf for visualation) and Grafana for visualization | 16:36 |
sdake_ | Mech422 yup he confirmed a moment ago | 16:36 |
sean-k-mooney | TICK stack? | 16:37 |
sdake_ | sean-k-mooney alerting and monitoring | 16:37 |
sdake_ | there is a screenshot of tig on the ml | 16:37 |
sean-k-mooney | for kolla or the tenant? | 16:37 |
sdake_ | c=g | 16:37 |
sdake_ | for kolla | 16:37 |
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Mech422 | sdake_: sorry - catching up on scrollback | 16:38 |
sean-k-mooney | ok cool promituos was also mentioned at the midcycle but i gues the conversation has moved on to tick then? | 16:38 |
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sean-k-mooney | /promituos/prometheus | 16:39 |
Mech422 | mewald: might be nice to be able to select influxdb seperately - it seems fairly popular with the graphite crowd too ? | 16:39 |
sdake_ | sean-k-mooney i think where we are at is as follows | 16:40 |
sdake_ | each layer will be configurable | 16:40 |
sdake_ | sean-k-mooney assumign they work with each other | 16:40 |
sdake_ | sean-k-mooney but whoever does the work gets to define the stack | 16:40 |
sdake_ | thats how we roll here ;) | 16:40 |
sdake_ | thus far it lookks like Mech422 and Daviey are driving this one | 16:41 |
sdake_ | rather mewald | 16:41 |
sdake_ | sorry Mech422 mistab | 16:41 |
sean-k-mooney | ok im not sure that they will be that swapable as the monitoring stack that are out there then to be somwhat monolitic in componant choice | 16:42 |
sdake_ | well what i want to avoid is endless bikeshedding :) | 16:42 |
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sdake_ | so lets not do that pls :) | 16:42 |
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sean-k-mooney | sdake_: sure it would be good to have a working solution rather then seveal broken ones. | 16:44 |
sdake_ | sean-k-mooney agreed ;) | 16:45 |
sdake_ | sean-k-mooney well tig seems to work now | 16:45 |
sean-k-mooney | we were considering contirbuting a collectd contaienr to use it as the collector to feed telemetry to ceilometer. | 16:45 |
sdake_ | sean-k-mooney when i get done jerking aroudn with my morning meetings i'm going to give it a spin | 16:45 |
sdake_ | fwiw i want collectd as well | 16:45 |
sdake_ | in addition to the telegraf | 16:45 |
sdake_ | so please do contribute that :) | 16:46 |
sdake_ | or if your overloaded, dont let this work around tig stop you is what i mean to say :) | 16:46 |
sean-k-mooney | ok yes i think pritiv will be working on it when he finishes the networking-sfc container | 16:46 |
Mech422 | sean-k-mooney: you think they're monolithic? I was surprised how much mix-n-match seems to go on.. | 16:47 |
sdake_ | ya from waht i can read every thing is interchangable | 16:47 |
sdake_ | how well they work interchangably is an open quetsion | 16:47 |
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sdake_ | hey dmsimard | 16:47 |
Mech422 | sdake_: true - and the almost seem to be ruby based :-( | 16:47 |
sdake_ | dmsimard hey i dont know if you caught the news from the midcycle | 16:47 |
dmsimard | sdake_: hey me | 16:47 |
dmsimard | no wassup | 16:47 |
sdake_ | but we are in progress of making kolla build gates voting | 16:48 |
dmsimard | cool, glad it's a priority | 16:48 |
sean-k-mooney | Mech422: some of the component are interchangeable but take prometheus for example. its seams to be easy to get data into it but not back out. | 16:48 |
sdake_ | the gate has always been a priority | 16:48 |
sdake_ | we have 1-2 people almost always working on the gate unfortunately | 16:48 |
dmsimard | from an outside perspective, debatable :) | 16:48 |
sdake_ | yes its very difficult work | 16:48 |
sdake_ | Jeffrey4l single handly has fixed about 15 gate bugs :) | 16:49 |
sdake_ | maybe 10 | 16:49 |
sdake_ | anyway alot :) | 16:49 |
dmsimard | awesome | 16:49 |
sdake_ | but this is over the last 3-6 months | 16:49 |
dmsimard | are you guys going to be able to cover all the implemented projects in Kolla ? | 16:49 |
Mech422 | sean-k-mooney: I figured you just hit the db directly...like driving grafana and prometheus off the same influxdb | 16:49 |
sdake_ | dmsimard i think that iwll come with time | 16:49 |
sdake_ | dmsimard i'd like to get to te point where we have our gates voting | 16:50 |
Mech422 | sean-k-mooney: but I admit - I haven't installed yet - was just looking around last week to see what to use for work | 16:50 |
sdake_ | dmsimard first step is build vote, second step is deploy vote | 16:50 |
sdake_ | ubuntu doesn't deploy in the gate for some odd reason | 16:50 |
sdake_ | that nobody understands | 16:50 |
inc0 | btw did you see summit voting and type kolla? | 16:50 |
inc0 | into search bar? | 16:50 |
sdake_ | dmsimard the thing that unblocked us was pbalgenrs work on mirroring | 16:51 |
sdake_ | inc0 link? | 16:51 |
inc0 | https://www.openstack.org/summit/barcelona-2016/vote-for-speakers/presentation/15553/?q=kolla | 16:51 |
inc0 | sbezverk_, mag009 you guys around? | 16:52 |
sean-k-mooney | Mech422: as far as i can tell Prometheus does not support external storage of samples so you would nto be able to use it to store samples in influxdb. | 16:52 |
mag009 | yep | 16:52 |
mag009 | whats up | 16:52 |
sean-k-mooney | Mech422: https://github.com/prometheus/prometheus/issues/10 | 16:52 |
inc0 | did you have beer together? | 16:52 |
inc0 | you both live in Montreal | 16:52 |
mag009 | nop lol didn't even knew he was from here | 16:52 |
inc0 | it slipped my mind, I knew Sergey was from Canada but I didn't connect the dots | 16:53 |
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inc0 | anyway, there you go, get drunk for glory of Kolla | 16:53 |
mag009 | lol nice | 16:53 |
mag009 | Sergey where you work at ? | 16:53 |
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mag009 | guess he's not here.. inc0 you know where he work ? | 16:54 |
inc0 | Cisco | 16:54 |
mag009 | ah ok cool | 16:55 |
mag009 | ah its in the link above -_- | 16:55 |
sdake_ | 1557 talks tagged with kolla? | 16:55 |
sdake_ | what the charlie foxtrot | 16:55 |
inc0 | not that much | 16:55 |
inc0 | links don't carry the search bar apperantly | 16:56 |
inc0 | just type in kolla | 16:56 |
sean-k-mooney | Mech422: for collectd that would not be an issue though. it can work with influxdb or ceilometer. we are also looking into adding collectd support for gnocchi currently. | 16:56 |
sdake_ | DAMN my wife jacked my five w's title | 16:57 |
Mech422 | sean-k-mooney: interesting read - long thread | 16:57 |
sdake_ | what the foxtrot | 16:57 |
sean-k-mooney | Mech422: sorry for the lenght | 16:57 |
Mech422 | sean-k-mooney: no - its interesting... | 16:58 |
inc0 | sdake_, 4W and H | 16:58 |
inc0 | send my best to Robyn btw;) | 16:58 |
sdake_ | still called the 5 wss :) | 16:58 |
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sdake_ | inc0 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Ws | 17:10 |
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openstackgerrit | william snow proposed openstack/kolla: Doc wording update - Minor rewording for clarity. TrivialFix https://review.openstack.org/347494 | 17:15 |
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Mech422 | sdake: so I just emailed the list about a fuel/container project... | 17:39 |
Mech422 | sdake: Fuel requires control of your dhcp server though (like ironic) right ? | 17:40 |
sdake | moment reading | 17:40 |
sdake | not sure what fuel requires from the environment | 17:40 |
Mech422 | sdake: I think anything requiring DHCP control will be a non-starter for me...at least until we our openstack stuff goes 'mainstream' at work | 17:41 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla: Python 3: dict.iteritems() https://review.openstack.org/346294 | 17:49 |
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openstackgerrit | Josh Lothian proposed openstack/kolla: Customizations for heka https://review.openstack.org/346861 | 18:03 |
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mark-casey | sdake: Mech422: current fuel does not allow existing dhcp services on the management or public/provider type networks | 18:11 |
mark-casey | well... not as of two releases ago when I used it | 18:12 |
Mech422 | mark-casey: blah - thanks | 18:12 |
Mech422 | mark-casey: be nice if something actually took the foreman approach and used an agent to talk to existing dhcp servers | 18:12 |
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mark-casey | Mech422: kind of off in left field for kolla at the moment, but I''ve been chasing down coreos's bootcfg service to get some bare metal nodes set up on coreos for kolla to use. Bootcfg is just an http endpoint that serves cloud configs, and you run it alongside a dnsmasq service that works with existing DHCP. | 18:17 |
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mark-casey | apparently it is legal to have a separate DHCP daemon respond with just the pxe options | 18:17 |
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Daviey | Mech422: I understood influx was an alternative to influxdb for metric storage | 18:29 |
Daviey | err, graphite | 18:29 |
Daviey | where rendering tools can use either | 18:30 |
Mech422 | mark-casey: oh - I'll have to look at that - thanks for the pointer! | 18:31 |
Daviey | Mech422: Having a dedicated vlan to provisioning also means you can have as many dhcp servers as you choose | 18:31 |
Mech422 | Daviey: yeah - but then you get into 'can this node pxe boot off a vlan', etc | 18:32 |
Daviey | Mech422: with ipxe, everything can boot from a vlan | 18:32 |
Mech422 | Daviey: also, I basically can't touch our dhcp stuff | 18:32 |
Mech422 | Daviey: oh? wasn't aware of that - haven't played with ipxe | 18:33 |
Daviey | Mech422: yeah.. if you can get the current dhcp server to provide pxe to ipxe | 18:33 |
Daviey | you can then upgrade to a vlan of your choice | 18:33 |
Daviey | the ipxe image can have a config to join a vlan | 18:33 |
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Mech422 | Daviey: I'll have to think about that... | 18:34 |
Mech422 | Daviey: getting any network changes past our NetEng guys is a royal PITA | 18:34 |
Mech422 | Daviey: for now, I've just been bootstrapping manually and using ansible to provision | 18:34 |
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Daviey | MHP Servers? | 18:35 |
Daviey | Mech422: HP Servers? | 18:35 |
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Mech422 | Daviey: umm - prod is mostly SuperMicro and Dell I think | 18:36 |
Mech422 | Daviey: my home lab is HP/DEll | 18:36 |
Daviey | Mech422: Well.. with HP, you can use ironic to 'upload' ipxe directly to the server.. so it can boot from your vlan without dhcp | 18:36 |
Daviey | i don't know about SM or Dell | 18:36 |
Mech422 | Daviey: Hmm - maybe I'll play with that next time I redo the networking... | 18:37 |
Daviey | No networking to redo with that model | 18:38 |
Mech422 | Daviey: currently I provision off a native/untagged vlan at home - then switch to vlans when I've bootstrapped LInux enough to get vlan support | 18:38 |
Mech422 | Daviey: LOL - every time I touch my networking, its a redo/rebuild - thats what happens when you let a dev. play with network gear :-P | 18:39 |
Daviey | hah | 18:39 |
Daviey | Mech422: for some servers, you can burn ipxe into the rom.. which would also solve your issue | 18:39 |
mark-casey | may be in scrollback but you can chainload to ipxe too | 18:40 |
Mech422 | Daviey: umm - yeah, NetEng would never go for that... | 18:40 |
Daviey | mark-casey: right, i said he could get his legacy dhcp serve to chainload to ipxe | 18:40 |
Daviey | and then get his dhcp server | 18:40 |
Mech422 | anyway - not a big issue for us yet, as openstack is just getting started at our place... | 18:40 |
mark-casey | hah. now I see it :D | 18:40 |
Daviey | Mech422: But you are building servers by hand??? | 18:41 |
Mech422 | Daviey: no - supermicro/dell pre-configure for us | 18:41 |
Daviey | Mech422: rebuilds? | 18:41 |
Mech422 | Daviey: dunno - I'm a dev... | 18:41 |
Mech422 | Daviey: boxes just magically appear when I ask for them | 18:41 |
Daviey | If i can't rebuild a server 10 times a day, i'm miserable | 18:41 |
Mech422 | oh - at home, I can - foreman/pre-seed/ansible - but at work I have no clue | 18:42 |
Daviey | Mech422: deploy via umpa lumpa | 18:43 |
Mech422 | umpa lumpa? you mean sysops ? | 18:44 |
Daviey | same thing | 18:45 |
Mech422 | heh | 18:46 |
Mech422 | our sysops guys are ok - netops/neteng are the pains... | 18:46 |
Mech422 | we're a CDN, so anything 'networkey' requires an act of god and congress | 18:46 |
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openstackgerrit | Richard Winters proposed openstack/kolla: Customizations for openvswitch https://review.openstack.org/346837 | 19:12 |
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openstackgerrit | sean mooney proposed openstack/kolla: [WIP] adds support for ovs with dpdk netdev datapath https://review.openstack.org/342354 | 20:16 |
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michauds | hi all, anyone aware of any initiatives to deploy monasca through kolla? | 20:26 |
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sdake | michauds we take patches :) | 20:36 |
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sdake | michauds but atm nobody has tackled monasca that i am aware of | 20:36 |
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dims_ | sdake : thanks for raising the issue on the ML. will help re-double my efforts | 20:40 |
sdake | as I've already stated I don't care about duplication - just looking for an accurate assessment of the various projects in openstack | 20:41 |
sdake | everyone in the community has a reponsibility to protect the four opens, for example | 20:42 |
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dims_ | sdake : yep, agree | 20:42 |
sdake | i personallly believe projects have a fundamental right to innovate in whatever way they see fit | 20:43 |
sdake | so its not like i'm going to block or try to block any mission statement changes | 20:43 |
dims_ | i hear you. | 20:45 |
dims_ | others, please chime in the ML thread. the more folks i hear from, the better | 20:45 |
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Daviey | dims_: Unless there is fundamental differences in the technology.. I'd like to see a justification as to why collaboration hasn't been sought | 20:54 |
Daviey | fragmenting the community, in an area where there aren't than many people isn't helpful to OpenStack. | 20:55 |
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dims_ | Daviey : not disagreeing with you. but here are the pointers to what was done before - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/330575/ - http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2016/kolla.2016-06-29-16.00.log.html | 20:57 |
patchbot | dims_: patch 330575 - kolla - Proposal spec for universal containers | 20:57 |
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dims_ | Daviey : +1 to feedback that sentiment on ML | 20:58 |
sdake | Daviey i wish we could have had collaboration - I think the sticking point was around a technical issue about the number of repositories | 20:58 |
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Mech422 | dam..tulsi gabbard is rockin it... | 20:59 |
Mech422 | err..sorry - wrong channel | 20:59 |
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sdake | huh | 21:01 |
sdake | whos tulsi gabbard | 21:01 |
Mech422 | sdake: congresswoman from hawaii that quit the DNC national commitee to campaign for Bernie Sanders | 21:02 |
Mech422 | sdake: she just gave his nominating speech | 21:03 |
sdake | i thought he lost\ | 21:03 |
Mech422 | sdake: its an electoral college sort of thing.. | 21:03 |
Mech422 | sdake: there is a roll call vote of the delegates in about 30-60 minutes | 21:03 |
sdake | oh even the losers go then? | 21:04 |
Mech422 | sdake: clinton is expected to win, of course - but its pretty interesting | 21:04 |
Mech422 | sdake: how do you think we ended up with pres bush ? gore won the popular vote... | 21:04 |
sdake | first or second one | 21:04 |
Mech422 | sdake: it wouldn't be america if it was straightforward :-) | 21:04 |
sdake | every american president has been pretty terrible | 21:05 |
sdake | mission impossible every day | 21:05 |
sdake | hard to criticize without living it | 21:05 |
sdake | is the dnc on now? | 21:06 |
dims_ | started last night | 21:06 |
sdake | whens the speech about nominiation acceptance | 21:06 |
Mech422 | cnn / cspan/ msnbc/etc | 21:07 |
sdake | i'll have to catch that, watched the rnc acceptance speech | 21:07 |
dims_ | Thu night i believe http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/25/politics/democratic-convention-viewers-guide/ | 21:07 |
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sdake | thanks dims_ | 21:08 |
sdake | will help me decide which one of these idiots to vote for :) | 21:08 |
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Mech422 | clintons nominating speakers are up next I think - bernies 3 were just up | 21:08 |
dims_ | y i watched a lot of the RNC, first day of DNC was interesting as well. | 21:08 |
sdake | i only watched the nomination speech and of course the replay loop of that cat making an ass out of himself | 21:09 |
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sdake | https://www.quora.com/How-is-the-state-different-from-a-gang | 21:10 |
michauds | sdake alright, thanks! ;) | 21:21 |
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kfox1111 | dims_: the conversation kind of stopped, but it didn't sound like anyone was blocking it. | 21:53 |
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kfox1111 | in fact, we've tried really hard to make the ansible workflow piece seperable from the kubernetes piece in kolla-kubernetes so it should be possible to drive it with puppet or other orchestration tools. | 21:54 |
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dims_ | kfox1111 : i know, you can see some of my commits to kolla-kubernetes :) | 22:06 |
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sdake | dinner time | 22:09 |
sdake | bbl | 22:09 |
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openstackgerrit | Ken Wronkiewicz proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Remove hostnetworking for Nova control plane and convert to RC https://review.openstack.org/347572 | 22:35 |
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kfox1111 | sdake: wb. | 22:48 |
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sdake_ | acclamation | 22:55 |
sdake_ | haven't heard that word before | 22:55 |
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Mech422 | sdake_: yeah - that was interesting... | 22:57 |
Mech422 | sdake_: bernie's brother getting to vote for him was nice | 22:57 |
sdake_ | i just caught the last 5 miutes | 22:57 |
sdake_ | s | 22:57 |
sdake_ | when i got to my folks house | 22:58 |
sdake_ | wife out of town - so parents feeding me today :) | 22:58 |
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Mech422 | sdake_: LOL - the sanders delegates occupied the media tent at the DNC - young turks is covering it live | 23:14 |
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sdake_ | i can't wait for the email dump prior to the election that the hackers have to have | 23:18 |
sdake_ | its like the last season of "America the Great" and the writers are going fucking nuts! | 23:18 |
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Mech422 | sdake_: seriously - we ask for 'different' politicians...dam, did we get them .... | 23:19 |
Mech422 | sdake_: how's that curse go? "May you live in interesting times"? | 23:20 |
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openstackgerrit | Richard Winters proposed openstack/kolla: Customizations for openvswitch https://review.openstack.org/346837 | 23:27 |
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jascott1 | "meet the new boss..." <music notes> | 23:29 |
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