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| Pavo | anyone around to help me with this single node Ceph? | 00:08 |
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| imcsk8 | sdake: i'm not running nothing that binds to that ip | 00:17 |
| sdake | imcsk8 run netstat -nlp | 00:17 |
| sdake | that will tell you what is using the port ii think | 00:17 |
| sdake | imcsk8 your running something that binds to that port on one of your controller nodes imcsk8 | 00:18 |
| sdake | port 80 | 00:18 |
| imcsk8 | sdake: i had a forgoten ssh tunnel listening on port 80 but it was supposed to be listening on 127.0.0.1, anyway i killed it | 00:25 |
| sdake | imcsk8 huh? | 00:27 |
| sdake | ssh tunnel was probably listening on :0 | 00:27 |
| sdake | rather 0:80 | 00:27 |
| sdake | as in bind to all ports | 00:27 |
| imcsk8 | sdake: yeah it was listening on 0.0.0.0 | 00:27 |
| imcsk8 | it was just a temporary experiment and i forgot about it, didn't even cosider it for the problem | 00:28 |
| sdake | imcsk8 all good | 00:36 |
| imcsk8 | sdake: yeah i got pass that one and now in hitting another problem, but i think i know how to solver that one. | 00:37 |
| Pavo | anyone seen this error before | 00:38 |
| Pavo | http://paste.openstack.org/show/587972/ | 00:38 |
| sdake | pavo did ceph_mon build and did you push it to your registry? | 00:39 |
| sdake | pavo to find out, there is a registry viewer avialable for kolla | 00:39 |
| Pavo | yes and it pulled over | 00:39 |
| Pavo | http://paste.openstack.org/show/587974/ | 00:39 |
| Pavo | oh wait aminute | 00:40 |
| Pavo | I am doing a reconfigure | 00:40 |
| sdake | we did ceph reconfigure during final testing | 00:40 |
| sdake | are you trying to reconfigure to *enable* ceph? | 00:40 |
| Pavo | not a deploy, Iassume reconfgure only redoes the containers that are currently running not new ones | 00:40 |
| Pavo | added | 00:40 |
| Pavo | yes sdake | 00:40 |
| sdake | to deploy ceph you have to start with ceph | 00:40 |
| sdake | reconfigure is a bit of a misnomer | 00:41 |
| Pavo | so should I do a destroy and then deploy again? | 00:41 |
| sdake | you can't start with a non-ceph deploy, run reconfigure, and magically have a ceph deploy | 00:41 |
| sdake | unfortunately that is the only answer we have today | 00:41 |
| Pavo | ok | 00:41 |
| sdake | this is why i recommend to everyone to just use ceph to begin with after they sort out their first AIO | 00:41 |
| sdake | a real reconfigure that does all the right magic is pretty difficult to pull off | 00:42 |
| sdake | i think making that work in terms of name (as in reconfigure everything perfectly) is probably a year of work or more for 2-3 people | 00:42 |
| Pavo | yeah well I never used Ceph before | 00:42 |
| sdake | pavo make sure to read the ceph guide | 00:42 |
| Pavo | followed the guide gonna see if it works | 00:42 |
| sdake | some config options are required | 00:42 |
| Pavo | http://docs.openstack.org/developer/kolla/ceph-guide.html | 00:42 |
| Pavo | yeah | 00:42 |
| Pavo | I did parted /dev/sdb -s -- mklabel gpt mkpart KOLLA_CEPH_OSD_BOOTSTRAP_FOO 1 -1 | 00:43 |
| Pavo | then created a ceph.conf file in /etc/kolla/config and added the all-in-one option | 00:43 |
| Pavo | then edited globals to enable ceph | 00:44 |
| Pavo | crossing fingers it works | 00:44 |
| Pavo | is ir best pratice to reboot after a destroy? | 00:45 |
| Pavo | or does it matter | 00:45 |
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| sdake | pavo did you get rid of your lvm on /dev/sdb? | 00:54 |
| Pavo | I think so | 00:54 |
| Pavo | guess I'll findout | 00:54 |
| Pavo | :P | 00:54 |
| Pavo | sdake looks like it worked | 01:07 |
| Pavo | https://www.dropbox.com/s/phikuog1xtitmop/Screenshot%202016-11-04%2021.07.11.png?dl=0 | 01:07 |
| Pavo | ok sdake I ran the init_runonce script and it created the demo stuff but when I try to add an external network using physnet1 with a VLAN ID of my Internet VLAN ID I get an error can not create network Ext | 01:15 |
| Pavo | any suggestions? | 01:15 |
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| sdake | pavo no clue dude - ask in the morning when people around that understand neutron | 01:26 |
| sdake | 5am PST is a good time ;-) | 01:26 |
| Pavo | ok no problem | 01:26 |
| sdake | friday at 6:30, not so much | 01:26 |
| Pavo | just excited I finally got Ceph single node working | 01:26 |
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| sdake | pavo grats dude ;-) | 02:03 |
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| inc0 | sdake, ping | 05:16 |
| sdake | brutally wound me | 05:16 |
| inc0 | sooo....ansible licensing sux | 05:16 |
| inc0 | we can't really do apache for this | 05:17 |
| inc0 | as this is core of ansible, I need to do import ansible... | 05:17 |
| inc0 | and it will be ran as main ansible playbook driver | 05:17 |
| inc0 | has to be GPL, I'm almost positive | 05:17 |
| sdake | could you tell me what problem you want to solve | 05:17 |
| inc0 | extensibility of playbooks | 05:17 |
| inc0 | feature people need badly | 05:17 |
| sdake | more detail? | 05:17 |
| inc0 | something like dockerfile overrides | 05:18 |
| inc0 | just for playbooks | 05:18 |
| inc0 | I think I have an idea how to do it with ansible | 05:18 |
| inc0 | if we write this strategy plugin | 05:18 |
| sdake | the word plugin tells me that it can be launched at runtime no? | 05:18 |
| inc0 | not exactly | 05:18 |
| inc0 | it's piece of logic that manages all the execution of tasks | 05:19 |
| inc0 | this is very core of ansible | 05:19 |
| sdake | how about we add a plugin feature for strategies? | 05:19 |
| sdake | (to upstream) | 05:19 |
| sdake | (to upstream ansible) | 05:19 |
| sdake | and then add some kind of config option to ansible to load it in? | 05:19 |
| sdake | that solves all the problems | 05:19 |
| inc0 | well if I could push my code to ansible itself, that would do it | 05:20 |
| sdake | I was pretty sure when I looked at those strategies, they could be plugins | 05:20 |
| sdake | so can't they be plugins? | 05:21 |
| sdake | or are they hardcoded into ansible itself? | 05:21 |
| inc0 | look at that: https://github.com/ansible/ansible/blob/devel/lib/ansible/plugins/strategy/linear.py | 05:21 |
| inc0 | I think if subclass this class, and meddle with iterator for tasks, that would allow us to inject/remove/replace tasks in ansible as we do with packages in dockerfile | 05:22 |
| inc0 | pretty powerful stuff | 05:22 |
| inc0 | but well, I need to subclass it | 05:22 |
| inc0 | I'm not going to rewrite this code. | 05:23 |
| sdake | thanks that clears things up | 05:23 |
| sdake | I thought you wanted to write a module | 05:23 |
| inc0 | no, module is easy | 05:23 |
| sdake | (for a gui for example) | 05:23 |
| inc0 | this is different beast | 05:23 |
| inc0 | we can push it into ansible itself at some point | 05:23 |
| inc0 | but I don't want to depend on a whim of ansible community, we have features to deliver | 05:24 |
| inc0 | so I might start new project somewhere that will be GPLv3 | 05:24 |
| sdake | you mean deliver directly into upstream? | 05:24 |
| inc0 | and write it down there, while talking to ansible to merge it to core at some point | 05:24 |
| inc0 | much like shade | 05:24 |
| sdake | i guess i am missing the use case | 05:25 |
| sdake | ansible while not impossible - is nontrivial | 05:25 |
| sdake | even though our programming model is simple | 05:25 |
| inc0 | I'll show you use case | 05:25 |
| sdake | i struggle to understand how people would write their own | 05:25 |
| sdake | cool | 05:26 |
| inc0 | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/342354/ | 05:26 |
| inc0 | with my mechanism, stuff like that wouldnt have to land into kolla main tree | 05:26 |
| inc0 | it could be a driver external to kolla, or contrib driver | 05:26 |
| inc0 | wanna deploy dpdk? kolla-ansible deploy --ansible-override contrib/dpdk.yml | 05:27 |
| inc0 | much like dockerfile customization with --template-override | 05:27 |
| sdake | i see | 05:27 |
| inc0 | we can unleash tech vendors:) | 05:27 |
| sdake | so you want to runtime include roles? | 05:27 |
| inc0 | roles, tasks | 05:27 |
| inc0 | yeah | 05:27 |
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| sdake | well ya tasks are part of roles :) | 05:28 |
| sdake | why not just make a new play? | 05:28 |
| sdake | same result | 05:28 |
| inc0 | well, it wouldn't work for this dpdk right? | 05:28 |
| inc0 | unless you literally fork whole thing | 05:28 |
| sdake | we aren't forking ansible | 05:28 |
| inc0 | no, not ansible | 05:28 |
| sdake | (bluebox did that ;) | 05:28 |
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| inc0 | to make dpdk work with kolla without merging it to trunk | 05:28 |
| inc0 | you'd need to fork kolla-ansible | 05:29 |
| inc0 | or at least neutron role | 05:29 |
| sdake | or merge dpdk directly into kolla | 05:29 |
| inc0 | to change few tasks | 05:29 |
| sdake | what is downside of merge directly? | 05:29 |
| inc0 | yeah, but we merge dpdk, calico | 05:29 |
| inc0 | our codebase grows | 05:29 |
| inc0 | and someone at some point will want to have secret properitary stuff | 05:29 |
| inc0 | and won't be merged at all | 05:30 |
| inc0 | then forking kolla is only option | 05:30 |
| sdake | ya - I think your email should have started out with the use case rather then "is this legal" :) | 05:30 |
| inc0 | if we solve this one issue (and write few more features that are relatively easy) | 05:30 |
| inc0 | you can do whatever you want without touching kolla trunk | 05:30 |
| inc0 | then we keep trunk pristine, and grow contrib code | 05:30 |
| sdake | i like that idea in princple | 05:30 |
| sdake | i think it opens the question what goes in pristine trunk | 05:31 |
| inc0 | technically seems possiblw | 05:31 |
| sdake | nearly anything is possible technically with kolla with exception of cc integration ;-) | 05:31 |
| inc0 | thats a different question | 05:31 |
| sdake | it is a different question opened by the introduction of this feature | 05:32 |
| inc0 | cc? | 05:32 |
| sdake | clear containers | 05:32 |
| inc0 | whats that? (I assume you dont speak of intel tech) | 05:32 |
| inc0 | ok, nvm, besides the point | 05:32 |
| sdake | thats the one i'm talking of | 05:32 |
| inc0 | might be possible in fact | 05:33 |
| inc0 | I talked with author of it | 05:33 |
| sdake | so looking at this dpdk thing, there are tasks in nova | 05:33 |
| sdake | show me how --net=host works | 05:33 |
| sdake | and we can talk :) | 05:33 |
| inc0 | net=host is not an requirement across the board tbh | 05:33 |
| inc0 | but nvm, that's on me | 05:34 |
| inc0 | at some point | 05:34 |
| inc0 | not now | 05:34 |
| sdake | i spoke with do you mean arjan? | 05:34 |
| inc0 | yeah | 05:34 |
| sdake | ya I spoke with him in tokyo | 05:34 |
| sdake | asked him straight up "how do we do host networking" | 05:35 |
| sdake | he said its not possible | 05:35 |
| sdake | sean mooney said same | 05:35 |
| inc0 | I don't think we need host networking across the board, there are ways | 05:35 |
| inc0 | anyway, again, I'll sit 10m from Arjan | 05:35 |
| inc0 | and he's sharp guy | 05:35 |
| sdake | agree he is brilliant | 05:35 |
| inc0 | if there is a way, we'll figure it out | 05:36 |
| sdake | and if he says something can't be done, it can't be done | 05:36 |
| inc0 | if there is not, well, tough luck | 05:36 |
| sdake | glad thats established ;) | 05:36 |
| sdake | ok now on to this dpdk thing | 05:36 |
| sdake | can you walk me through how this linear merger thing would work your thinking of | 05:36 |
| inc0 | see this "iterator" thing? | 05:36 |
| sdake | i can't quite see how you sort out the ordering in the ansible codebase | 05:36 |
| inc0 | an argument to run? | 05:36 |
| inc0 | it has tasks per server | 05:37 |
| inc0 | so if we modify it prior to run linear strategy | 05:37 |
| inc0 | we can inject stuff in between existing tasks | 05:37 |
| inc0 | ...in theory | 05:37 |
| sdake | how do you mark where to inject? | 05:37 |
| inc0 | names? | 05:38 |
| sdake | a new ansible magic word? | 05:38 |
| sdake | the task name? | 05:38 |
| inc0 | we can refactor our task names to follow a standard | 05:38 |
| sdake | ya we need to do that | 05:38 |
| inc0 | need - not atm | 05:38 |
| inc0 | but we could when we do this | 05:38 |
| sdake | there are multiple use cases for a standard refactor of task names | 05:38 |
| inc0 | ensure that tasks are unique somehow | 05:38 |
| sdake | ok so how does the task name get injected | 05:39 |
| sdake | where does that get input into run? | 05:39 |
| sdake | are you talking about overriding the iterator parameter? | 05:39 |
| inc0 | http://paste.openstack.org/show/588006/ something like that for example | 05:40 |
| inc0 | dunno yet, tbd | 05:40 |
| inc0 | yeah, we'll dig through this iterator thing and modify whats in it | 05:40 |
| sdake | so rewrite the iterator | 05:41 |
| sdake | where is the iterator defined? | 05:41 |
| inc0 | somewhere deeper in ansile | 05:41 |
| inc0 | dunno | 05:41 |
| sdake | or you want to inherit the whole linear.py and just rewrite the run operation? | 05:41 |
| inc0 | yeah | 05:41 |
| inc0 | add couple lines to it:) | 05:41 |
| inc0 | whole thing might be less than 100 lines of code | 05:42 |
| inc0 | ...but will be GPL-tainted | 05:42 |
| sdake | thats not even tained | 05:42 |
| sdake | thats straight up gpl | 05:42 |
| sdake | hrm | 05:43 |
| sdake | actually let me think a min | 05:43 |
| inc0 | yup | 05:43 |
| inc0 | so technically we *could* put this code into kolla tree | 05:43 |
| sdake | is it possible to specify your own strategy plugins? | 05:43 |
| inc0 | under GPL license | 05:43 |
| sdake | no we really can't | 05:43 |
| inc0 | because this will be called with popen from rest of kolla | 05:44 |
| sdake | ya, GPL licensed code not permitted in openstack proper | 05:44 |
| inc0 | yeah, it's really simple to specify our own strategy plugin, that's my point | 05:44 |
| sdake | openstack-infra has an exception because they don't deliver their softwre to customers | 05:44 |
| inc0 | technical part is nice and elegant | 05:44 |
| inc0 | http://docs.ansible.com/ansible/playbooks_strategies.html | 05:44 |
| inc0 | we literally just add strategy: our_own_strategy to playbook declaration | 05:45 |
| sdake | The strategies are implemented via a new type of plugin, this means that in the future new execution types can be added, either locally by users or to Ansible itself by a code contribution. | 05:46 |
| sdake | One example is debug strategy. See Playbook Debugger for details. | 05:46 |
| inc0 | but strategy code has to be inherited from existing strategies, waaaay too complex to rewrite it without derivitive | 05:46 |
| sdake | ok so bck on this: | 05:46 |
| sdake | [22:45:55] <inc0>we literally just add strategy: our_own_strategy to playbook declaration | 05:46 |
| sdake | does that load "our own strategy" from somewhere? | 05:46 |
| inc0 | yeah, it does python import | 05:47 |
| sdake | sweet | 05:47 |
| sdake | so its like a module | 05:47 |
| inc0 | we can create directory strategy_plugins in our tree | 05:47 |
| inc0 | no | 05:47 |
| inc0 | it's loaded kinda like plugins, but not with popen or whatnot | 05:47 |
| sdake | ok walk me through how it gets instantiated | 05:47 |
| inc0 | main ansible thread does import. | 05:48 |
| sdake | popen is loaded from kolla-ansible.py | 05:48 |
| inc0 | that's it | 05:48 |
| sdake | need 5-10 mins to process | 05:48 |
| sdake | can you hang tight | 05:48 |
| inc0 | but code in this plugin HAS TO BE gpl | 05:48 |
| inc0 | that's the issue here | 05:48 |
| sdake | if we write our own completely derived run command that inherits, i'm not sure that is true | 05:48 |
| sdake | need 5-10 minutes to process like i said :) | 05:49 |
| sdake | hang tight | 05:49 |
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