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| openstackgerrit | Serguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: WIP Hierarchical approach for helm charts https://review.openstack.org/401394 | 00:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Serguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: WIP Hierarchical approach for helm charts https://review.openstack.org/401394 | 00:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Serguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: WIP Hierarchical approach for helm charts https://review.openstack.org/401394 | 00:31 |
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| liyifeng_seu | when kolla 3.0.1 running on docker 1.10.3, I find the container is not very stable, Should I need to get a newer docker? | 02:22 |
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| sdake | pavo lots o people hve talked about it nobody has actually done it | 05:57 |
| sdake | pavo the tricky part is writing some kind of gui to control the deployer container | 05:58 |
| sdake | pavo otherwise your stuck with docker exec, which kind of is unfullfilling | 05:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible: Revert "updating-deprecated-ansible-modules" https://review.openstack.org/402691 | 07:34 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla: Set proper workdir for different distro in tempest container https://review.openstack.org/402177 | 08:02 |
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| kristian__ | Hi where can I find libvirt configuration for an instance? | 10:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/kolla: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/400770 | 13:01 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/kolla-ansible: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/402187 | 13:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Vladislav Belogrudov proposed openstack/kolla-ansible: Encrease haproxy timeouts for mysql connections https://review.openstack.org/403428 | 14:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible: Notification needed for searchlight https://review.openstack.org/400022 | 14:29 |
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| sdake | portdirect morning fine sir | 15:07 |
| portdirect | afternoon sdake | 15:07 |
| sdake | portdirect say noticed during a random google search you created a working dir for doing helm experiments | 15:07 |
| sdake | any chance you could just submit those via gerrit instead? | 15:08 |
| sdake | working dir/repo | 15:08 |
| Pavo | yeah I realized that it wouldn't be beneficial after I built it unless I added a script to change global values up on container run | 15:09 |
| Pavo | which is a pita | 15:09 |
| sdake | pavo yup its not too hard although i am not a gui dude | 15:10 |
| portdirect | yeah - of course - I was goint to use them to sync work I'm doing locally, but realise the naming helps contribute to the mess of helm relayed work going on :) | 15:10 |
| sdake | so its hard for me :) | 15:10 |
| portdirect | *related | 15:10 |
| sdake | ya multiple repos = parallell implementations | 15:10 |
| sdake | the best place to sort out the parallel implements is the gerrit review queue | 15:10 |
| sdake | implementations | 15:11 |
| sdake | if your doing work locally may i suggest running git review on it | 15:11 |
| sdake | sbezverk had a bunch of local work | 15:11 |
| sdake | and it wasn't until it hit the review queue that it could be evaluated :) | 15:11 |
| sdake | it still isn't ready | 15:11 |
| sdake | but its looking closer to me | 15:12 |
| sdake | if folks wait to produce a mona lisa on the world, well.. that doesn't work in openstack :) | 15:12 |
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| sdake | portdirect what i'd like to get to is something the core team agreees on re helm charts | 15:14 |
| sdake | and use our resources we got for kubernetes to stamp out those helm charts | 15:15 |
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| portdirect | of course - I'm getting going on ceph atm - as it was preventing me getting going on keystone (and mariadb - but I think duonghq said he was gonna have a crack at that) - will have stuff for review in a few hours I hope - I'm basing the helm structure on sbezverk's layout - so as we review his I can adjust appropriately | 15:16 |
| sdake | ok - we will have to coordinate that with what kevin hass | 15:18 |
| sdake | i have several outstanding questions on his review - holidays in us | 15:18 |
| portdirect | +1, you know when he's back? | 15:18 |
| sdake | no clue | 15:18 |
| sdake | hopefully monday :) | 15:19 |
| sdake | portdirect i'd encourage you too if interested to review both patchsets | 15:20 |
| sdake | pick out problems, etc | 15:20 |
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| portdirect | will do - I'll be in a position to comment better on sbezverk's approach soon, I'm still getting my head round helm atm - and what we can actually achive with it | 15:24 |
| portdirect | also been working on getting the haylcon kubeadm stuff at a point that works for kolla-dev - I've goot a mess set of mods here: https://github.com/portdirect/halcyon-kubernetes/commit/8d25f2104cca47c1a51aa344f21b38c31f6a0d4c with I'll get cleaned up and go through with v1k0d3n et all when they are back | 15:27 |
| sdake | cool what do you think of https://github.com/att-comdev/aic-helm/blob/master/mariadb/templates/wsrep.cnf.yaml | 15:27 |
| sdake | the kolla-kubernetes spec specifies external config maps | 15:28 |
| sdake | that way we dont have to rebuild the helm packaging a million times on every change | 15:28 |
| portdirect | I've been going though that with a fine toothcomb over the last few days - and can provide some readmes that work if you wanna try it out :) | 15:29 |
| sdake | what i'm more interested in is that specific point | 15:30 |
| sdake | is it possible to have external config maps rather then have them baked into the helm packaging? | 15:30 |
| portdirect | yes - and I think this s they way we should have it - but I can see why they have done it the way they have | 15:31 |
| portdirect | though I'm not that keen on it | 15:32 |
| sdake | could you expand on why its done that way in that repo | 15:32 |
| sdake | there is no review comments | 15:32 |
| sdake | so i can't get any context on the process | 15:32 |
| sdake | of how that became their model | 15:32 |
| sdake | this is also sapcc's model | 15:33 |
| sdake | essentially can't learn from the openstack process (reviews, launchpad, etc) in a repo that doesn't use that model | 15:34 |
| sdake | portdirect so you said you understand why they did it - why? | 15:34 |
| portdirect | 2 reasons (and I'm basing this on conjecture): It's simpler to write the charts, and produces a nicer 'turnkey' deployment model - though at the expense of customisation - so perfectly vaild in sapcc's case where they prouced it for their own ds, but not what we should be doing i think | 15:35 |
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| sdake | ok, i read the above and it tells me "i have to run extra steps to register the configmaps i want" | 15:36 |
| portdirect | yup - which I why i dont think it works for us | 15:37 |
| sdake | is there any technical limitation to running external config maps? | 15:40 |
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| sdake | you mentioned its simpler to write charts... | 15:43 |
| sdake | why? | 15:43 |
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| portdirect | in response to the first q: not that I'm aware, and the 2nd simpley because it allows you to hold everything together and very quickly run: helm delete x; helm package .; helm install x over and over again untill you have somthing that works - nothing more than that | 15:45 |
| sdake | quickly as in hand modify the config maps? :) | 15:47 |
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| portdirect | yeh that ugly :P | 15:47 |
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| sdake | i dont expect operators consuming kolla will necessarily understand the ins and outs of formatting a configmap in helm | 15:48 |
| sdake | it took a massive amount of effort for me to understand helm | 15:48 |
| sdake | and just some of the kubernetes objects | 15:48 |
| sdake | pushign that operators is a recipe for failure | 15:49 |
| sdake | that on operators | 15:49 |
| portdirect | yup - i agree, it does however look like the helm way of doing things is to pacage configmaps inside packages, and then populate them using the value file: https://github.com/kubernetes/helm/blob/master/docs/chart_template_guide/values_files.md | 15:51 |
| sdake | i think the model i was envisioining is operators register configmaps | 15:54 |
| sdake | then they do helm install ... | 15:55 |
| sdake | that is why the spec is the way it is | 15:55 |
| sdake | although configmaps could be seen as boilerplate they might also be perceived as a completely opinionated installation mechnaism | 15:56 |
| portdirect | thats how I envisononed it was well (would have said if otherwise), do you have any contacts within the helm developers? | 15:56 |
| sdake | no | 15:57 |
| sdake | well today i have the funfilled job of installing a insinkerator | 16:00 |
| sdake | right up there with my favort ejob of rebuilding a toilet | 16:00 |
| portdirect | lol :) I think it would be good for us to get a channel opened up - once they are back next week it would be good to get their input and also see if they can address these concerns | 16:03 |
| portdirect | also to find out when helm is gonna work with k8s 1.5 - as I've not manged to make it do so yet - tiller bombs out when trying to load a chart... | 16:04 |
| sdake | do we need 1.5 for some specific feature? | 16:05 |
| portdirect | it's not essential right now - I'm running a frankenkube install that uses the controller-manger (1.5.0.beta) that att-comdev put together that support ceph dynamic pv's and petsets are no more, but i think thats just a name change so fixable with sed. | 16:07 |
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| sdake | ya name chcange only, petset name was considered offensive to some folks i think | 16:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla: Add ironic-ui to horizon image https://review.openstack.org/403445 | 16:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Jeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla-ansible: Add ENABLE_IRONIC environment in horizon https://review.openstack.org/403446 | 16:31 |
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| sdake | portdirect mind spending 30 minutes with me over hangouts or webex or whatever to walk me through setup of your frankenkube setup? | 16:37 |
| sdake | portdirect i'd like to replicate it | 16:37 |
| Pavo | whats a frankenkube? | 16:38 |
| sdake | pavo not sure :) | 16:38 |
| sdake | pavo i assume its a way to deploy kubernetes for a dev environment | 16:39 |
| portdirect | mixing kubernetes versions - ie like frankensteins monster - somthing you should not do - but it still comes alive :) | 16:39 |
| portdirect | no mic here - but give me 5 mins ans I'll see if i can find one | 16:39 |
| sdake | cool | 16:39 |
| Pavo | I'll join if you don't mind | 16:40 |
| sdake | dont mind | 16:40 |
| Pavo | sounds interesting | 16:40 |
| sdake | assuming portdirect can find a mic :) | 16:40 |
| Pavo | also couldn't I just take the images that I have built with kolla and use them with kubernetes? | 16:40 |
| sdake | pavo yes although the kubernetes implementation is in progress | 16:41 |
| Pavo | been doing alot of reading and watching videos on kubernetes | 16:41 |
| sdake | therefore, you wouldn't be able to do anything with it | 16:41 |
| sdake | just develop it | 16:41 |
| Pavo | seems fun and awesome | 16:41 |
| portdirect | found mic | 16:49 |
| sdake | nice let me find mic now :) | 16:49 |
| sdake | http://cisco.webex.com/join/stdake | 16:51 |
| portdirect | installing iced-tea.. | 16:53 |
| sdake | are you on linx? | 16:53 |
| portdirect | aye | 16:53 |
| portdirect | 2 sec | 16:53 |
| sdake | ok lets use google hangouts instead | 16:53 |
| sdake | webex and linux dont go well together :( | 16:54 |
| portdirect | oh hangout then | 16:54 |
| sdake | anyone know how to setup a hangout? :) | 16:54 |
| portdirect | bind mice here - 2 mins and I'll try | 16:54 |
| portdirect | sent you an invite | 16:55 |
| portdirect | https://hangouts.google.com/call/v5cy3t6hvzh4bcvc3op3hyc3oie | 16:56 |
| portdirect | pavo^^ | 16:56 |
| sdake | pavo can you click that | 16:57 |
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| sdake | pavo we can't hear ya | 16:58 |
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| portdirect | https://gist.github.com/intlabs/58bb531c3ac4d17c8d150fb2ab323899 | 17:05 |
| Pavo | sdake and portdirect I'm recording btw | 17:05 |
| portdirect | https://releases.hashicorp.com/vagrant/1.8.7/vagrant_1.8.7_x86_64.rpm | 17:08 |
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| portdirect | https://gist.github.com/intlabs/9ce71a4a6b93b4e2e90faec500ef70d0 | 17:30 |
| openstackgerrit | Vladislav Belogrudov proposed openstack/kolla-ansible: Icrease haproxy timeouts for mysql connections https://review.openstack.org/403428 | 17:41 |
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| portdirect | sdake: https://github.com/portdirect/halcyon-kubernetes/blob/kolla_dev/kube-deploy/roles/kube-addons/tasks/addons-helm.yml | 17:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Serguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: WIP Hierarchical approach for helm charts https://review.openstack.org/401394 | 18:44 |
| sdake | sbezverk iv'e got a vagrant deployment of kubernetes operational | 18:46 |
| sbezverk | sdake: cool | 18:46 |
| Pavo | damnit my recording didn't record sound | 18:47 |
| sdake | sbezverk how do i deploy your helm package? | 18:50 |
| sbezverk | sdake: helm install | 18:50 |
| sdake | isn't there some helm serv thing? | 18:51 |
| sbezverk | sdake: for now I need to specify parent-level chart | 18:51 |
| sbezverk | sdake: helm install kolla-kubernetes | 18:51 |
| sdake | how do we specify just parts of the chart? | 18:51 |
| sbezverk | sdake: for now it is not possible until version 2.1 | 18:52 |
| sdake | roger | 18:52 |
| sdake | 2.1 is when? | 18:52 |
| sbezverk | sdake: should be soon after the holidays | 18:52 |
| sdake | do they publish a schedule? | 18:52 |
| sdake | portdirect ^^ | 18:53 |
| sbezverk | sdake: the server portion is installed with "helm init" command | 18:53 |
| sbezverk | sdake: I just got a note from one of helm developers | 18:53 |
| sdake | cool | 18:53 |
| portdirect | which holidays? (not sure american lingo) | 18:54 |
| sdake | jan4th at earliest portdirect | 18:56 |
| sdake | portdirect also the other thing not to copy in sbezverk 's implementation is the lack of init container for entrypoint being configurable | 18:57 |
| sdake | i'm guessing here but i think kfox1111 's custom build tooling is to support these subcharts | 18:57 |
| portdirect | ack | 18:57 |
| sdake | portdirect you may have to walk some of our other devs through the setup process | 18:59 |
| sdake | to get them bootstrapped | 18:59 |
| sdake | i could give it a go | 18:59 |
| portdirect | np: I'm just prepping those pr's for halcyon now, would the best way to do that be to put a vagrant-dev.md in kolla-kubernetes? | 19:00 |
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| sbezverk | sdake: portdirect: it lack conditional for entrypoint only because it unconditionally needs it :-) | 19:06 |
| sdake | sbezverk roger i know that :) | 19:06 |
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| portdirect | sdake: i heard you like containers so we put your iaas in containers so you can run you container paas in our containers container containers | 19:08 |
| sbezverk | sdake: portdirect: wrt entrypoint, was the agreement to use conditions on per microservice bases or global per whole deployment? | 19:09 |
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| sbezverk | example can we have entry point for some services or it it is all or nothing approach? | 19:09 |
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| portdirect | sbezverk: I'm not sure if we actually got that far, I think it makes sense as a global option for people who dont want to use it - but are the two options mutually exclusive? | 19:12 |
| sbezverk | portdirect: I was hoping not mutually exclusive | 19:14 |
| sdake_ | portdirect all your containers belong to us, yo dawg! | 19:14 |
| portdirect | yeah - if we can make it configurable at a per service level - but have a global option as well that would be the best solution | 19:15 |
| sdake_ | sbezverk if you need it for some services, do your hting | 19:15 |
| sdake_ | sbezverk we can optimize that problem later | 19:15 |
| portdirect | now it's moved to an init container I'm pretty placid about it | 19:16 |
| sbezverk | we need to get mariadb going as ap, without it is hard to move forward.. | 19:16 |
| sdake_ | who is doing mariadb sbezverk ? | 19:17 |
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| sbezverk | there were many takers but no producers ;-) | 19:17 |
| sbezverk | hopefully portdirect will get it sorted out | 19:18 |
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| portdirect | paging portdirect | 19:19 |
| sdake_ | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla-kubernetes/+spec/helm-packaging | 19:19 |
| sdake_ | unless you wnt to tackle it portdirect | 19:20 |
| portdirect | sweet :) cheers sdake! | 19:20 |
| portdirect | I do have an arch question about memcached actually though | 19:21 |
| portdirect | should we be putting memcached in the host network namespace? | 19:23 |
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| sbezverk | portdirect: why? we did not need to do it before, what changed? | 19:24 |
| portdirect | kube-proxy cannot handle affinity/stickyness so we will need to run a headless service for this - and that means that if we dont the ip's can change with resceduling etc | 19:24 |
| portdirect | it will work without this, but my understanding is it would not be optimal | 19:25 |
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| sbezverk | portdirect: need to study it more, to understand what it means.. will be back in 2 hours.. ttyl | 19:26 |
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| portdirect | np - this is far from urgent (and only requires a single change in the yaml when we get there) | 19:26 |
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| sdake | sbezverk guess my wife took over my job of fixing the plumbing | 20:34 |
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| sdake_ | sup bmace | 21:54 |
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| bmace | sdake_ how goes? hope you are having a great sunday | 23:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Serguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: WIP Hierarchical approach for helm charts https://review.openstack.org/401394 | 23:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Serguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: WIP Rabbitmq HELM Chart https://review.openstack.org/403456 | 23:19 |
| portdirect | sbezverk/sdake: dont know if this will be of use to you but I hacked kolla-kubernetes from the old minikube quickstart to dump the raw yaml's it was providing to k8s and threw the results into a gist - its quite hard to parse in places but helps me double check my working: https://gist.github.com/intlabs/f4ea0f5105ebc38f54d7610fe8205262 | 23:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Serguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: WIP Rabbitmq HELM Chart https://review.openstack.org/403456 | 23:40 |
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| sbezverk | portdirect: have you seen helm install --dry-run --debug ?? | 23:41 |
| sbezverk | very usefull as it provides rendered yaml | 23:42 |
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| portdirect | sbezverk: yeah :) the horror in that gist is rendered output from kfoxes kolla-kubernetes minikube quickstart tutuorial - I made it as I was finding the existing unrendered templates from kolla a bit hard to virually parse in places, i think thats what 'kolla-kubernetes resource-template' was meant to do but it was bugging out on me, so as a quick and dirty way round that I just added a 'cat' subprocess in be | 23:46 |
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| portdirect | e it called kubectl | 23:46 |
| portdirect | *visually parse | 23:47 |
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| sbezverk | portdirect: got it.. | 23:54 |
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