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| openstackgerrit | Serguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Glance service orchestration with entrypoint https://review.openstack.org/410736 | 00:15 |
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| sdake | l4yerffeJ_ around? | 00:22 |
| sdake | l4yerffeJ_ kolla-kubernetes is good for tag on the commit related to the release notes | 00:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Wei Cao proposed openstack/kolla: Add dragonflow container https://review.openstack.org/418193 | 02:52 |
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| Jeffrey4l | sdake, sound great. is the last hash commit id OK? | 03:04 |
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| sdake_ | Jeffrey4l the one with the release notes | 03:14 |
| sdake_ | Jeffrey4l moment - i'll tell you hash id | 03:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Dake proposed openstack/kolla: DNM: Test of Mitaka Gate https://review.openstack.org/420379 | 03:15 |
| sdake_ | Jeffrey4l 5ec591ac8be51681146a68097edf5ef84c6f09a5 | 03:15 |
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| Jeffrey4l | sdake_, roger. thanks. | 03:23 |
| sdake_ | thank you Jeffrey4l :) | 03:23 |
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| Jeffrey4l | sdake_, pushed. please check https://review.openstack.org/420380 | 03:26 |
| sdake_ | what is type: other? | 03:27 |
| sdake_ | lgtm btw | 03:27 |
| Jeffrey4l | re-pushed. fixed a typo | 03:27 |
| Jeffrey4l | i have no idea to type. let me check. | 03:27 |
| Jeffrey4l | sdake_, check this https://releases.openstack.org/reference/deliverable_types.html | 03:28 |
| sdake_ | ya i looked at the latest | 03:28 |
| sdake_ | why using gmail instead of cloud99? | 03:29 |
| Jeffrey4l | deployment tool should be "other" type. | 03:29 |
| Jeffrey4l | hrm. i configure gmail as global. and only in kolla project is using 99cloud. | 03:29 |
| Jeffrey4l | but it is the same. i added both email in the gerrit. | 03:29 |
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| sdake | Jeffrey4l why using gmail instead of cloud99? | 03:30 |
| sdake | rather 99cloud | 03:30 |
| sdake | Jeffrey4l is that your normal committer email address? | 03:30 |
| Jeffrey4l | hrm. i configured gmail as global. and only in kolla project is using 99cloud. | 03:33 |
| Jeffrey4l | but it is the same. i added both email in the gerrit. | 03:33 |
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| sdake | ahh ok | 03:34 |
| sdake | that should work fine then | 03:34 |
| Jeffrey4l | [metadata] | 03:34 |
| Jeffrey4l | name = kolla_kubernetes | 03:34 |
| sdake | although your stackalaytics may be off | 03:34 |
| sdake | the gate fialed btw | 03:34 |
| Jeffrey4l | why we are using kolla_kubernetes rather kolla-kubernetes. | 03:34 |
| Jeffrey4l | gate complain above ^^ sdake | 03:35 |
| Jeffrey4l | sdake, i added both mail into stackalaytics. so it is fine, too. | 03:35 |
| sdake | ahh - ok | 03:36 |
| sdake | btw, I was just looking at the kolla.yaml | 03:36 |
| sdake | it is missing release notes publishign too | 03:36 |
| Jeffrey4l | sdake, no idea why change the name here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/415273/ | 03:36 |
| Jeffrey4l | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/415273/2/setup.cfg | 03:36 |
| sdake | groan | 03:37 |
| Jeffrey4l | will we revert the name ? _ is not common in packages name. | 03:37 |
| sdake | i am changing it as we speak | 03:37 |
| Jeffrey4l | cool. | 03:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Dake proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Revert name in metadata back to kolla-kubernetes https://review.openstack.org/420382 | 03:39 |
| Jeffrey4l | +2ed | 03:39 |
| sdake | making sure tox -e cover still works | 03:39 |
| Jeffrey4l | yep. it should not matter the package name. | 03:40 |
| sdake | yup - often those kinds of changes get missed | 03:40 |
| sdake | many people in kolla-kubernetes land are not super python packaging experts ;) | 03:40 |
| sdake | the fact that kolla's python packaging works is a small miracle in itself :) | 03:41 |
| Jeffrey4l | they will be ;) | 03:41 |
| sdake | i remember writing the first implementation | 03:41 |
| sdake | it took me a couple days | 03:41 |
| * sdake groans doubly loudly | 03:41 | |
| sdake | afterwards I had it down tho :) | 03:41 |
| sdake | is that what was blocking the gate btw - i assumed it was | 03:41 |
| Jeffrey4l | release patch fixed. i add depends-on , no idea whether releases support cross repo test. :) | 03:42 |
| Jeffrey4l | gtg. brb. | 03:42 |
| sdake | thanks Jeffrey4l - no idea either | 03:43 |
| sdake | Jeffrey4l i guess we will find out when the gate wraps up :) | 03:44 |
| sdake | sbezverk if your raound need an ack on https://review.openstack.org/420382 | 03:44 |
| sdake | Jeffrey4l when you get back in - that patch will need further attention with the depends on because it has an invalid hash (the hash will change that we want to release from since metadta is busted and the entire pip release process wont work | 03:48 |
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| Jeffrey4l | roger. i add -w in the release patch. will remove the depends-on when the k8s patch is merged. | 03:50 |
| sbezverk | sdake: what happened? | 03:50 |
| sdake | sbezverk a regression in a patch | 03:50 |
| sdake | sbezverk can you ack https://review.openstack.org/420382 | 03:50 |
| sbezverk | done | 03:51 |
| sdake | thanks | 03:51 |
| sdake | rax-iad is busted for kolla-kubernetes gates | 03:53 |
| * sdake sighs even more | 03:53 | |
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| sdake | I saw on linkedin coolsvap got a new gig at a different co | 03:55 |
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| sbezverk | I am off to bed, good night | 04:01 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/419343 | 04:03 |
| sdake | sbezverk when you roll in later, can you try tox -e cover | 04:09 |
| sdake | I get this error during tox -e cover: jinja2.exceptions.UndefinedError: 'hostvars' is undefined | 04:10 |
| sdake | we can release without coverage working | 04:10 |
| sdake | I read somewhere github is losing 88 million a year | 04:10 |
| sdake | crazy burn rate | 04:11 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Revert name in metadata back to kolla-kubernetes https://review.openstack.org/420382 | 04:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Dake proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Add information about QSG and reliance on kolla-ansible https://review.openstack.org/420384 | 04:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Steven Dake proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Add information to QSG about reliance on kolla-ansible https://review.openstack.org/420384 | 04:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Steven Dake proposed openstack/kolla: Remove the you pronouns from the quickstart.rst https://review.openstack.org/420385 | 04:44 |
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| sdake_ | Jeffrey4l if your about - kolla-kubernetes 0.4.0 can be tagged on the latest tag | 06:23 |
| sdake_ | latest hash i mean | 06:23 |
| sdake_ | Jeffrey4l if not, anytime before tuesday is good - as I think the release team will be on pto | 06:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/419343 | 09:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/419343 | 20:18 |
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| masber | hi | 22:24 |
| masber | one questin | 22:24 |
| masber | question | 22:24 |
| masber | regardign the new kolla based on helm, is mariadb still need galera? | 22:25 |
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| sdake_ | masber we haven't implemented that part yet - and unclear on that particular point | 22:41 |
| sdake_ | and its not a new kolla - just an alternative orchestration engine technique | 22:42 |
| masber | sdake_, thank for this and apologies for the confusion | 22:42 |
| sdake_ | no need to apologize :) | 22:43 |
| masber | sdake_, Do you think it would be feasible to provide HA without galera? the reason Iam asking is because att-comdev/openstack-helm still uses it... | 22:44 |
| sdake_ | masber it may be possible with the way kubernetes operates | 22:44 |
| sdake_ | sbezverk would know more | 22:44 |
| sdake_ | the ha via galera is really designed for bare metal machines | 22:45 |
| sdake_ | not cloud-native systems | 22:45 |
| sdake_ | masber expanding - since the data is persistent - if mariadb crashes - kubernetes restarts it | 22:45 |
| sdake_ | and mariadb can just reconnect to the db files in the persistent storage | 22:46 |
| sdake_ | (which are backed by ceph on bare metal) | 22:46 |
| sdake_ | the way OpenStack uses mariadb in ha mode is n+m where n = 1 and m = 2 | 22:46 |
| sdake_ | this is often called active passive | 22:47 |
| sdake_ | this is a design flaw in OpenStack + mariadb implementation | 22:47 |
| sdake_ | I'm not sure which component is at fault | 22:47 |
| sdake_ | inc0 would know more about this point | 22:47 |
| masber | sdake_, yes that was the point I would like to deploy openstack on kubernetes, I think it is more HA than relying on galera | 22:47 |
| sdake_ | masber should warn you - kolla-kubernetes isn't ready for deploying at present - its more of a development deliverable | 22:48 |
| masber | the thing is that I was trying to play with openstack-helm but reading the docs i had the impression that it still uses Galera... so I was surprised | 22:48 |
| sdake_ | yup - our ptl i think also has mixed feelings about galera and mariadb | 22:48 |
| sdake_ | I don't htink we have the definitive answer in kolla upstream | 22:48 |
| sdake_ | if mariadb was active/active/active, it would be a totally different scenario | 22:49 |
| masber | I see | 22:49 |
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| sdake_ | then openstack could actually read and write and synchronize the database properly during fialure scenarios | 22:49 |
| masber | I am happy to help you testing things | 22:49 |
| masber | if you need | 22:49 |
| sdake_ | with a read/write to one node and the others acting as backup, the others acting as backup don't help much | 22:49 |
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| sdake_ | masber that would be fantastic! | 22:49 |
| sdake_ | masber although I just spent the day hanging up led lighting so i am too tired at present to guide you | 22:50 |
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| sdake_ | and monday is a holiday as well with many people tkaing pto days | 22:50 |
| sdake_ | the channel should heat up tuesday i suspect ;) | 22:50 |
| masber | sdake_, yes no rush when ever any of you is available | 22:50 |
| masber | all good | 22:50 |
| sdake_ | masber anyone can help you get started | 22:51 |
| masber | yep | 22:51 |
| sdake_ | masber (anyone in the kolla-kubernetes-core subteam or genral community) | 22:51 |
| sdake_ | masber: https://twitter.com/steven_dake/status/820752300289339393 | 22:52 |
| sdake_ | need to haul that to recycle | 22:52 |
| * sdake_ groans | 22:52 | |
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| sdake | tuesday hopefully :) | 22:53 |
| sdake | this is what the final job looked like: https://twitter.com/steven_dake/status/820753240966840320 | 22:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Serguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Mariadb service deployment https://review.openstack.org/412237 | 22:57 |
| sbezverk | masber: hey.. atm we do not use galera | 23:07 |
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| sbezverk | in kolla-kubernetes, but it does not mean it will always be the case | 23:08 |
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| sdake | sbezverk - while your around | 23:08 |
| masber | sbezverk, why is that, Im just curious | 23:08 |
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| sdake | mind taking a look at this change to the qsg | 23:08 |
| sdake | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/420384/ | 23:08 |
| sdake | I know the qsg is incomplete | 23:08 |
| sdake | l4yerffeJ thanks for releasing kolla-kubernetes | 23:10 |
| sdake | sbezverk also - you may have missed this - we are now using reno from now on :) | 23:10 |
| portdirect | masber: deploying a db is a very subjective subject :) | 23:10 |
| sbezverk | masberL if we need to have subsecond convergence, we will need galera | 23:10 |
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| sdake | sbezverk I should have -1'ed your glance review, but I failed as a cr :( | 23:10 |
| sbezverk | sdake: why is that? | 23:11 |
| sdake | sbezverk it was missing a reno release note | 23:11 |
| sbezverk | sdake: reno is required ONLY at version 1.0 | 23:11 |
| sdake | nah - we agreed after 0.4.0 to use reno | 23:11 |
| sdake | let me explain why | 23:11 |
| sbezverk | we had extensive discussion yesterday | 23:11 |
| sdake | http://docs.openstack.org/releasenotes/kolla/mitaka.html | 23:12 |
| sdake | see that? | 23:12 |
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| sdake | that took one day worth of work to produce the consolidate drelease notes | 23:13 |
| sdake | it also took 2 days to create the reno 0.4.0 release notes | 23:13 |
| sdake | and blocked the tagging | 23:13 |
| sdake | we are using reno from here on out - and i am enforcing it with -1's ;) | 23:13 |
| sdake | its really not that hard | 23:13 |
| sbezverk | sdake: it is not release version, why waste cycles on something nobody atm will be using? where is the logic? | 23:13 |
| sdake | reno new glance-service | 23:13 |
| sdake | the logic is peopel read the release notes to udnerstand what has changed | 23:14 |
| sdake | it takes 3 minutes to add a release note | 23:14 |
| sdake | 3 minutes for 10-20% of patches | 23:14 |
| masber | what would be the minimum number of nodes required for the installation? | 23:14 |
| masber | 3? | 23:14 |
| sbezverk | sdake: I agree to some extent, wth to released version | 23:14 |
| sbezverk | masber: for galera of for kolla-kubernetes? | 23:14 |
| sdake | we are releasing y streams at the moment | 23:14 |
| sdake | people want ot know what is new in the y streams | 23:14 |
| masber | I assume this would be a hyper-converged installation, I mean ceph and openstack components may be running on same hardware? | 23:15 |
| sdake | once we releae 1.0.0, all those release notes roll up into one 1.0.0 release note | 23:15 |
| masber | kolla-kubernetes | 23:15 |
| sdake | sbezverk you will just have to take my word for it - using reno is super beneficial to the project | 23:15 |
| portdirect | masber: with both projects they can be as converged or diverse as you want | 23:15 |
| sdake | have I led us astray thus far? | 23:15 |
| sbezverk | masber: you can do even aio | 23:15 |
| masber | aio? | 23:15 |
| sbezverk | all in one | 23:15 |
| sdake | all-in-one | 23:15 |
| masber | oh cool | 23:16 |
| sdake | sbezverk also - the 0.4.0 release notes which were approved included a commitment to include release notes from ehre on out | 23:16 |
| sdake | if we didn't want that language in there, we should have tkaen it out - that can't be undone, its been published to the mailing lists | 23:16 |
| sdake | we have set expectations for release notes | 23:16 |
| sdake | i make and meet commitments ;-) | 23:17 |
| sdake | this is a fundamental thing in openstack | 23:17 |
| sdake | thing/behavior | 23:17 |
| sdake | sbezverk when you say we had - who was the we | 23:17 |
| sdake | we had an extension discussoin about it friday where eveyrone agreed to ues reno ;) | 23:17 |
| masber | this is all based on docker containers right? | 23:17 |
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| sdake | reno has been in the repo since inception - all projects should use release notes right from the get go | 23:18 |
| portdirect | masber: currently, though i have been doing some initial testing with other container runtimes | 23:18 |
| sdake | the overhead is minimal | 23:18 |
| sdake | vs me making a release notes file each release | 23:18 |
| sdake | choose your poison - block for 2-3 days each tag and work as a team to produce an etherpad to make the releae notes or add a one liner to a yaml file | 23:19 |
| sdake | the idea of deliverables is they should be completely free of blocking | 23:19 |
| masber | I have heard docker had some security issues, is it still the case? | 23:19 |
| sdake | masber the way we use docker - there are no security issues | 23:19 |
| sdake | we drop root | 23:19 |
| portdirect | masber: that depends on how yo use it | 23:20 |
| sdake | and take exceeding care to ensure a breakout of the container will have limited imipact on teh system | 23:20 |
| sbezverk | sdake: there is no clear steps how to install reno, last time I tried it took 4 hours to update to its requirements and then my ws stopped working.. | 23:20 |
| sdake | sbezverk did you read the docs? | 23:20 |
| sdake | sudo pip isnstall reno | 23:20 |
| sdake | sbezverk i installed reno 2.0.z on my mac and linux box and it works like a champ | 23:20 |
| sdake | why on earth did it take 4 hours to update to the reno requirements? | 23:21 |
| sdake | I had a fresh box - and it took 15 seconds | 23:21 |
| sdake | my mac, I used easy_instal | 23:21 |
| sbezverk | sdake: you had to ask for help to infra people with my case | 23:21 |
| sdake | sbezverk - try it again plz - perhaps you had an old version that had some kind of wierd problem | 23:21 |
| sbezverk | I clearly remember that nightmare %( | 23:21 |
| sdake | sbezverk i don't recall the 4 hour wastage of time | 23:21 |
| sdake | but i can see your pushback if it cost you 4 hours | 23:22 |
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| masber | I would like to help you with the kolla-kubernetes project | 23:25 |
| masber | I am not very skillful, but probably can help testing | 23:26 |
| masber | it will be an exercise for me to learn how all this works | 23:26 |
| sdake | masber everyone says they are not skillful - then they turn out to be skillful after they get ramped up:) | 23:26 |
| sbezverk | masber: sounds great | 23:27 |
| sdake | masber so dont sell yourself short ;) | 23:27 |
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| sbezverk | you will need to get your test bed going | 23:27 |
| masber | sbezverk, ok no problem just guide me to any doc or put here what I need to start | 23:27 |
| masber | ok, this one I guess --> https://github.com/openstack/kolla-kubernetes | 23:29 |
| sbezverk | masber: well since we were mostly into the development, documentation has not been updated | 23:29 |
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| sbezverk | your best bet is to try to ue halcyon dev environment which was developer by portdirect, some folks afaik used it with success | 23:30 |
| sbezverk | or you build your own small kube cluster and use it for testing and development.. that is what I use .. | 23:31 |
| sdake | sbezverk yes - i will be updating docs - need some reviews on the docs patches i have outstanding :) | 23:31 |
| sdake | ok - i am out for dinner - enjoy | 23:31 |
| sbezverk | I have not played much with halcyon, but I am sure you will find some help here. If you decide to go with kube cluster then I could help you | 23:32 |
| portdirect | either option should get you to pretty much the same place | 23:32 |
| sdake | masber i'll be a little more opinonated - start here: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/kolla-kubernetes/development-environment.html | 23:33 |
| portdirect | halcyon is great with vagrant if you use that, but stting up a cluster with kubeadm yourself is pretty easy too :) | 23:33 |
| sdake | masber vagrant works well | 23:33 |
| sdake | masber assumign you ahve enough ram in your machine | 23:33 |
| sdake | masber and lets you simulate 4+ nodes with 1 computer | 23:34 |
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| sdake | masber the plus of that solutoion is it runs on centos, ubuntu, mac - so distro choice is available | 23:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Serguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes: Mariadb service deployment https://review.openstack.org/412237 | 23:36 |
| sdake | and can simulate anything you need | 23:36 |
| masber | ok, I will try with halcyon-kubernetes on vmware, this is the easier way for me to test I think | 23:36 |
| sdake | masber vmware is not a thing that works unfortunately - unless you want to run inside a vm | 23:37 |
| sdake | masber and i'm unclear if it even works then | 23:37 |
| sdake | masber which is your distro your using? | 23:38 |
| masber | sdake, yes inside a VM, vagrant also works inside vms right? | 23:38 |
| masber | I prefer centos, but can also use ubuntu if required | 23:39 |
| sdake | not sure how well nested virt works inside vmware | 23:39 |
| sdake | if you use centos, libvirt or virtualbox both work | 23:39 |
| sdake | (for virtualization providers) | 23:39 |
| sdake | then you can jsut run it on your box | 23:39 |
| sdake | it doesn't create a bunch of chaos on yoru system like devstack does | 23:39 |
| sdake | no need to run it in a vm | 23:39 |
| sdake | masber try readin teh docs- i think you will have troubles with vmware as a virtualizatoin provider | 23:40 |
| sdake | the nested virt thing could be a potential problem | 23:40 |
| sdake | for example, kvm doesn't nest on xen | 23:41 |
| sdake | kvm nesting pretty sure requires kvm | 23:41 |
| sdake | i don't know if virtualbox supports nesting, pbourke would know | 23:41 |
| sdake | best to short-circuit that pain :) | 23:41 |
| masber | ok | 23:41 |
| sdake | if runnign centos, i'd just use libvirt | 23:42 |
| sdake | its probably the shortest path | 23:42 |
| sdake | ok - old man steak needs a nap | 23:42 |
| sdake | ttyl | 23:43 |
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| masber | do I still libvirt if I deploy kubernetes+helm on top of centos VMs on vmware and work from there? | 23:44 |
| masber | install the carts, etc | 23:44 |
| masber | no need to worry about libvirt right? | 23:44 |
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| masber | just wondering | 23:46 |
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| portdirect | masber: you would need to use qemu, for nova unless vmware supports nested virt | 23:47 |
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| masber | portdirect, I was thinking about running compute nodes as bare-metal, vms only to run openstack controllers | 23:50 |
| portdirect | in that case i'd either use the playbooks from halcyon or kubeadm directly to set up your cluster | 23:51 |
| masber | portdirect, yes I was thinking that as well | 23:51 |
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| portdirect | +1 are you planning on staying in (I assume vsphere?) with opentack as well? | 23:52 |
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| masber | vsphere yes | 23:53 |
| portdirect | depending on your current storage environment you may also want to bypass ceph and use your existing storage for the databases | 23:53 |
| masber | if this goes successful, I can take 2 bare-metal nodes and try a hyper-converged installation (that would be my goal) | 23:54 |
| portdirect | cool :) | 23:54 |
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