Thursday, 2017-04-20

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inc0kfox1111: whole suite that we plan to do is extremally useful for general containers00:11
inc0registry+revision tagging too00:11
kfox1111yeah.00:11
inc0I'm making whole suite of cli calls for that00:11
kfox1111coo.00:18
kfox1111cool.00:18
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openstackgerritKevin Fox proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: Test Ceph OSD Chart  https://review.openstack.org/45730200:22
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kfox1111once that's in, I think we're really close to killing off kollakube.00:23
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jascott1kfox1111 could make --node-selectors required when using daemonset00:28
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kfox1111jascott1: probably safer that way. or have a default implied --node-selectors if not specified.00:31
kfox1111and overridden if the user specifies one.00:32
jascott1yeah was just thinking about the UX for helm init --daemonset alone00:33
jascott1I run that and then go see it not scheduled because of some default label00:33
jascott1then redo it all00:33
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jascott1vs just requiring their label00:33
kfox1111true.00:34
kfox1111it would be hard to forget then too.00:34
kfox1111helm init --daemonset00:34
kfox1111#no.. add --node-selector <foo>=<bar>00:34
kfox1111oh. yeah.00:34
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kfox1111+100:35
jascott1werd00:35
kfox1111gotta head out. have a good one. :)00:35
openstackgerritKevin Fox proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: Test Ceph OSD Chart  https://review.openstack.org/45730200:37
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inc0ehh...docker-py changed their api, package name and everything...besides import path -.-00:42
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duonghqmorning guys00:43
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openstackgerritDuong Ha-Quang proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: Heat service deployment  https://review.openstack.org/43725200:57
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duonghqsdake, ping02:22
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openstackgerritDuong Ha-Quang proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: Heat service deployment  https://review.openstack.org/43725202:24
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spsuryamorning all02:32
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openstackgerritSurya Prakash (spsurya) proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: In Deployment guide neutron interface name typo correction  https://review.openstack.org/45792203:01
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openstackgerrithosup choi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: Update deployment-guide.rst document for ubuntu  https://review.openstack.org/45808303:25
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sdakeduonghq sup dude04:21
sdakesup spsurya04:21
spsuryasdake: hi..04:22
spsuryapreparing PPTs04:22
spsuryafor summit04:22
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spsuryasdake: few items https://review.openstack.org/#/c/457870/     https://review.openstack.org/#/c/457922/04:28
spsuryawhat i experienced from guide04:28
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sdakespsurya thanks for the contributions :)04:50
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tervancovanhi all05:42
tervancovanI moved from  kubeadm-aio container to baremetal  but nslookup kubernetes is still not wokring -> https://thepasteb.in/p/r0hwElAGLvGsK05:51
openstackgerritEric Lei proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Fix the path of firewall plugin in kolla-ansible.  https://review.openstack.org/45834005:55
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openstackgerritJeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Mount /lib/modules folder for cinder-volume container  https://review.openstack.org/45834206:00
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mandrehi06:13
mandrecan we merge https://review.openstack.org/#/c/457214/? all these useless rechecks are wasting important CI resource06:13
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tervancovanhi all06:30
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openstackgerritshaofeng cheng proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Remove image_format config section  https://review.openstack.org/45835206:41
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hrwelo06:43
hrwmandre: I sometimes feel that whole review process is to run rechecks over and over again and not about code itself06:45
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mandrehrw: it's like winning the lottery when you finally get your patch to merge07:06
hrw;)07:06
duonghqsdake, which bp should my ps about heat-service belong to?07:10
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openstackgerritEric Lei proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Fix the path of firewall plugin in kolla-ansible.  https://review.openstack.org/45834007:22
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openstackgerritshaofeng cheng proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add ceph_enable_cephx config option  https://review.openstack.org/45836607:36
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egonzalezsup guys07:41
openstackgerritEric Lei proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Fix the path of firewall plugin in kolla-ansible.  https://review.openstack.org/45834007:43
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spsuryaegonzalez: hi..07:44
openstackgerritEduardo Gonzalez proposed openstack/kolla master: Fix zun images  https://review.openstack.org/45625107:47
openstackgerritshaofeng cheng proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add copy ceph keyring files conditions in cinder  https://review.openstack.org/45836607:48
openstackgerritChen proposed openstack/kolla master: Use LABEL instead of MAINTAINER (deprecated) in all Dockerfile.j2  https://review.openstack.org/45751307:54
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openstackgerritEduardo Gonzalez proposed openstack/kolla master: Fix zun images  https://review.openstack.org/45625107:57
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bjolomorning08:01
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openstackgerritEduardo Gonzalez proposed openstack/kolla master: Fix zun images  https://review.openstack.org/45625108:03
egonzalezsup bjolo08:03
egonzalezhow things going?08:04
bjolosup egonzalez08:04
bjolopretty good08:04
bjoloabout to deploy ocata on a new cloud08:04
bjolo:)08:04
egonzalezawesome :)08:04
bjolowe have newton in production now in another cloud :)08:04
bjolohow about you? hows irland treating you?08:05
egonzaleznot bad, are you going to Boston?08:08
bjoloprobably not unfortunately. Not to drag my personal life in here, but im going through a divorce right now. No time or money for a trip to Boston. Hoping to go to the next PTG though. :)08:09
bjoloare you going to Boston?08:10
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egonzalezim not going, saving money to go PTG too08:12
egonzalezi think the forum is not worth enough for an expensive travel08:13
bjolodo you know when and where it is? has that been determined yet?08:13
bjolotend to agree. i thought the PTG was great. better than the summits08:13
egonzalezdenver September 11th-15th.08:13
bjolooh nice08:14
bjolonever been to denver08:14
bjoloi do want to go to the summit in australia though :)08:14
egonzalezhttp://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-April/115046.html08:14
egonzalezaustralia would be awesome, but is really far away from here08:15
openstackgerritMartin André proposed openstack/kolla master: Add missing cleanup step for heat images  https://review.openstack.org/45347108:18
openstackgerritMartin André proposed openstack/kolla master: Add missing cleanup step for new apache images  https://review.openstack.org/45347008:18
mandreegonzalez: can you have a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/453470/? this changes the logic a little bit for cinder-api/extend_start.sh that you touched recently08:21
egonzalezmandre, applied that logic to make a clean backport into ocata, i'm going to move other distros cinder-api to apache in master08:23
egonzalezmandre, that change will be backported?08:23
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mandreegonzalez: yeah!08:24
mandreegonzalez: I made the one for heat (not to be backported) in a separate commit, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/453471/08:25
egonzalezthe issue with cinder, is that only ubuntu-binary will use apache for the API. not sure if removing the condition will be good08:25
mandreegonzalez: it not true, we also have the possibility to run cinder-api over apache for centos08:26
egonzalezmandre, yeah, i'm going to change that in master to unify all distros, but ocata ubuntu don't run without apache08:27
egonzalezthat's why this change is made without modify behaviour of other distros08:27
mandreegonzalez: hmm, what do you mean? which change?08:28
egonzalezhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/457993/08:28
mandreright.... so this commit doesn't cover all cases for cinder-api, because we also have the possibility to run it over apache for rpm distros08:30
mandrewe need https://review.openstack.org/453471 in master and ocata08:30
egonzalezmandre, I will apply this change for the rest of the distros for master, but ubuntu ocata need this change and followup backport to make cinder-api work08:30
egonzalezmandre, gotcha, any way, removing the if for binary/ubuntu will not harm anything since apache is installed on all those images. just won't do anything since is not used08:32
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egonzalezmandre, tripleo use apache for most of services? at least the one that support wsgi right?08:34
mandreegonzalez: note that I didn't remove the 'if binary', just changed it to 'if user == root' which is what you'll have to set to run apache in your container08:34
mandrethe 'if user == root' test covers more cases08:35
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egonzalezmandre, yep, good point08:35
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Marginhi,  https://bugs.launchpad.net/kolla/+bug/168450408:37
openstackLaunchpad bug 1684504 in kolla "failed to Bootstraping the mongodb replication set " [Undecided,New]08:37
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Marginit seems that we shoudn't use  initiate ,but reconfig08:42
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egonzalezMargin, is the mongo docker volume removed on the destroy? that errors looks like is bootstraping an already bootstraped cluster(volume has old data)08:45
duonghqegonzalez, ping08:46
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Marginhi, egonzalez08:47
egonzalezduonghq, sup08:48
Margindestory operation return  ok08:49
duonghqegonzalez, would you like to bring this ps up again: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/425446/ ?08:49
egonzalezduonghq, sure, we need it for pike imo08:50
duonghqegonzalez, agreed, so I think we need raising it again to get attention, I hope that we can get some more hands testing it08:50
duonghqdo you think it's already in good shape?08:51
egonzalezduonghq, agree, i will be on holidays next week and will have time and enough resources to test the upgrade, i'm concern in the upgrade order since serial is not used by default08:51
duonghqah, yes, many things changed since we started this ps08:52
egonzalezduonghq, i marked with -workflow to avoid merges before validate it works with current implementation08:53
duonghqegonzalez, did you rebase this ps?08:54
egonzaleznope, just recheck08:54
duonghqegonzalez, roger08:54
egonzalezduonghq, at first glance looks good. the only thing i see is the handlers will restart all containers at the same time (downtime). Not sure if handlers can run serialized08:57
Marginegonzalez , I updated https://bugs.launchpad.net/kolla/+bug/1684504, can you help me to check it ?08:57
openstackLaunchpad bug 1684504 in kolla "failed to Bootstraping the mongodb replication set " [Undecided,New]08:57
egonzalezMargin, the error in the destroy task is that some VMs were running in compute nodes and cannot remove libvirt container08:58
egonzalezbefore destroy need to remove all instances08:58
Marginyes, I know ,but that time I forgot , so I manually kill qemu process and rerun the destory ansible scripts.08:59
MarginJust now , I rerun "deploy "  and find this time is successful.09:00
duonghqegonzalez, I'm also thinking about serial in finer level09:01
duonghqbut iirc, it cannot, which is not good news09:01
hrwgate-kolla-dsvm-deploy-ubuntu-source-ubuntu-xenial-nv--09:04
egonzalezduonghq, we'll figure out how to orchestrate the upgrade. this will help other WIP zer downtime upgrades who share the same pattern(neutron i.e)09:09
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egonzalezMargin, the successful deploy was after the failed one? or destroy the environment between both deploy?09:14
duonghqegonzalez, roger, we also have glance in the queue09:17
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egonzalezduonghq, something similar to this may work https://github.com/ceph/ceph-ansible/blob/master/roles/ceph-common/handlers/main.yml#L4509:30
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duonghqegonzalez, quite tricky, but seems nice09:31
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openstackgerritshaofeng cheng proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add the ceph keyring files related task condition  https://review.openstack.org/45841709:49
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Fix troubleshooting guide debugging section  https://review.openstack.org/45811510:00
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mandrepbourke: hey :) can you have a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/457214/? this should help get out of this recheck madness10:07
mandrepbourke: and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/453470/ too while you're at it ;-)10:08
sdakemorning people10:08
mandrehey sdake10:08
mandreI'm trying to attract more eyeballs to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/457214/10:09
mandresdake: fancy doing a quick review? ^^10:09
sdakemandre enjoy10:12
sdakeegonzalez quick q re cell0 and the pain it brings :)10:13
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Mount /lib/modules folder for cinder-volume container  https://review.openstack.org/45834210:13
sdakeegonzalez can you read this ?10:13
egonzalezsdake, sup10:13
mandresdake: thx!10:13
openstackgerritJeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/ocata: Mount /lib/modules folder for cinder-volume container  https://review.openstack.org/45843010:15
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-ansible stable/ocata: Fix Freezer service config override issue  https://review.openstack.org/45660610:16
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-ansible stable/ocata: Add panko.conf file in ceilometer container  https://review.openstack.org/44472010:18
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Fix the path of firewall plugin in kolla-ansible.  https://review.openstack.org/45834010:20
spsuryasdake: around ?10:22
sdakespsurya indeed10:23
spsuryasdake: do you have kk8s running10:23
spsuryai need data10:23
spsuryaof memory10:23
spsuryai.e total consumption of memory by kolla-k8s10:23
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pbourkemandre: done, nice job fixing up the tests10:39
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla master: Ensure tests run in isolation  https://review.openstack.org/45721411:01
sdakespsurya I can make it so11:06
sdakespsurya give me a moment11:06
sdakespsurya to do so I'll need your vagrantfile for two nics11:07
spsuryanot yet found with two nics :(11:08
spsuryasdake11:08
sdakespsurya why do you need to know memory requiremetns?11:08
spsuryaneed to include in my PPT11:09
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: In Deployment guide neutron interface name typo correction  https://review.openstack.org/45792211:09
spsuryaso that i can state kk8s is better to use11:09
spsuryaon this factor too11:09
spsurya:)11:09
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spsuryacurious too11:09
spsuryato know11:10
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sdakespsurya i'm not really sure how to do that without the two nics thing11:13
sdakespsurya what is your ppt for?11:13
spsuryaif we have AIO kk8s running then11:14
spsuryai think top can help11:15
spsurya$top11:15
sdakespsurya moment11:15
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sbezverkspsurya: In theory you do not need a second real nic if you ready to sacrifice connectivity from inside of a running container11:24
spsuryasbezverk: Yes11:25
sbezverkyou can just create fake interface using linux bridge command or some people prefer to use ip link command11:25
spsuryai created a dummy one11:25
spsuryawith ip link11:25
spsuryabut seems that doesn't work11:25
spsuryabecoz all the service level chart are not running11:26
spsuryaand facing etcd connection issue11:26
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla master: Add missing cleanup step for new apache images  https://review.openstack.org/45347011:26
sbezverkspsurya: hm then I am positive it is not a second link issue11:26
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spsuryasdake: sbezverk thanks11:27
spsuryaI am checking11:27
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sdakespsurya did you run cleanup-kolla.sh?11:29
sdake(or rm -rf /var/lib/kolla/volumes/*??"11:30
sdakespsurya between deploys these volume directories must be deleted11:30
spsuryasdake: i am in fresh install11:30
sdakesbezverk can you spell out hte magic incantation for the creating fake interface using linux bridge11:31
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sbezverksdake: read the code Luke ;) tools/setup_gate_common.sh11:32
sdakesbezverk spsurya ^^11:33
sdakerather spsurya ^^11:33
spsuryasdake: please parse below, may be you can get to problem11:34
spsuryahttp://paste.openstack.org/show/607320/11:34
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sdakesbezverk any idea on those logs ^^11:35
sdakespsurya gathering your data - can't do two things at once :)11:35
spsuryasdake: thanks11:36
spsuryanp11:36
sbezverkspsurya: you need to check each pod stuck in init to state to why it got stuck11:36
sbezverkspsurya: run kubectl describe pod for each and carefully read the output11:36
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spsurya``kubectl describe pods`` gives nothing  while ``kubectl describe pods neutron-dhcp-agent-74v6t`` gives  Error from server (NotFound): pods "neutron-dhcp-agent-74v6t" not found11:44
spsuryasdake11:45
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla master: magnum-conductor: mark as x86-64 only  https://review.openstack.org/45808511:45
sbezverkspsurya: do not forget to use namespace kolla11:46
sbezverkkubectl describe pods neutron-dhcp-agent-74v6t -n kolla11:47
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla master: debian: move to stretch  https://review.openstack.org/43445312:00
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hrwwhat a lovely day!12:03
sdakespsurya https://da.gd/DOz6 -> https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/oG7lJzJwpFEbRlnYd~ZqN15M1UNdIGYhyRLivL9gydE=/12:05
sdakesup hrw]12:05
sdakehrw12:05
sdake:)12:05
spsuryasdake: thansk12:06
spsuryathanks12:06
spsurya*12:06
hrwsdake: can you look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/458078/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/457983/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/457946/ ones?12:06
sdakehrw enjoy12:11
hrwcool!12:11
openstackgerritBertrand Lallau proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Simplify Openstack services configuration possibilities  https://review.openstack.org/45668812:11
spsuryahttps://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/cWVBtCih/12:12
hrwsdake: will recheck https://review.openstack.org/#/c/450805/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/444832/ ones12:12
spsuryasdake: sbezverk tried to parse12:12
hrwsdake: rest need rebasing12:12
spsuryahttps://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/cWVBtCih/12:12
spsuryapods whcih are not running12:13
spsuryastill in waiting state12:13
sdakespsurya just for the sake of proving me wrong12:13
sdakecan you please try http://stackoverflow.com/questions/23957752/vagrant-how-to-configure-multiple-nics-within-a-vagrantfile12:14
spsuryasuree12:15
spsuryasure*12:15
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla master: Add oslo-vmware module in glance_base image  https://review.openstack.org/45716312:16
openstackgerritMarcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/kolla master: nova-libvirt: handle ppc64le  https://review.openstack.org/43481012:18
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hrwsdake, egonzalez: ^^ simple, easy to review12:19
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spsuryasdake: vagrant up is failing12:24
spsuryai will check from vagrant point of view12:25
spsuryanow going home from office12:25
spsuryaits already 9:25 PM12:25
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openstackgerritSurya Prakash (spsurya) proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: Deployment guide updation for better followup  https://review.openstack.org/45787012:31
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla master: Use LABEL instead of MAINTAINER (deprecated) in all Dockerfile.j2  https://review.openstack.org/45751312:32
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hrwback12:44
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hrwhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/457967/ anyone? sdake? egonzalez?12:46
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sdakeI typed in "openstack travel" and the automatic google search term that came up was "openstack travel ban" :(12:56
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla master: kubetoolbox: mark as x86-64 only  https://review.openstack.org/45807812:59
hrwgo CI, go! :D13:00
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openstackgerrithosup choi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: Update deployment-guide.rst document for ubuntu  https://review.openstack.org/45808313:03
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla master: grafana: disable for non-x86  https://review.openstack.org/45794613:04
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egonzalezsdake, was funny when foundation sent email about trump immigration policy, next 2 summits outside US, but next PTG still being there13:07
tervancovanhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/458083/13:08
tervancovansdake ?13:08
tervancovanplz check this review~!13:09
sdakeegonzalez i dont know what to check you13:09
sdaketell you :)13:09
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sdaketervancovan moment13:11
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srwilkersmorning13:22
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hrwok, non-x86 patch has to wait with review - checking does it work properly13:23
egonzalezhrw, changes start to merge yay!13:24
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hrwegonzalez: 4 patches today already!13:24
hrwand all remaining ones are now rebasable... no more fighting with order ;D13:26
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sdakehrw you have arm images in hand, have you tried deploying with kolla-ansible?13:37
hrwsdake: we are in a middle of reorganising lab so one machine only and I use it for build tests13:38
sdakehrw one machine will do the job - you can build and deploy from one location :)13:38
sdaketo that sam emachine13:38
hrwwill have to check then ;D13:39
hrwand learn ansible13:39
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sdakehrw ansible is easy peasy - kubernetes - not so much :)13:39
hrw;D13:39
sdakehrw kolla-ansible is also very mature, so it should be pretty straightforward to get rolling13:39
hrwsure13:40
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Remove python-heatclient from test-requirements.txt  https://review.openstack.org/45433914:07
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Remove python-swiftclient from test-requirements.txt  https://review.openstack.org/45434014:09
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Remove python-barbicanclient from test-requirements.txt  https://review.openstack.org/45433814:09
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Remove graphiz from test-requirements.txt  https://review.openstack.org/45434214:11
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Remove image_format config section  https://review.openstack.org/45835214:13
openstackgerritEduardo Gonzalez proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: DNM: test master branch  https://review.openstack.org/45614014:14
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openstackgerritSurya Prakash (spsurya) proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: Deployment guide updation for better followup  https://review.openstack.org/45787014:27
openstackgerrithosup choi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: Update deployment-guide.rst document for ubuntu  https://review.openstack.org/45808314:28
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openstackgerritBertrand Lallau proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Grafana: automatically set InfuxDB datasource  https://review.openstack.org/45709414:33
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openstackgerritEduardo Gonzalez proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Panko.conf cannot be copied in ceilometer role  https://review.openstack.org/45853414:39
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inc0good morning14:47
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sdakesup inc014:54
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sdakeinc0 hrw needs some reviews if your available - i'm pretty swamped all day today and tomorrow - dentist ftl14:55
sdakeinc0 also there are some reviews that are pretty much rubber stamps at this point related to the service redux blueprint14:55
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spsuryainc0: morning14:58
sdakesup spsurya14:58
spsuryasdake: i got this14:58
sdakespsurya  :)14:58
spsuryahttps://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/VuyY466x/14:58
spsurya4 interfaces14:58
tervancovan-mobisdake  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/458083/14:58
openstackgerrithosup choi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: Update deployment-guide.rst document for ubuntu  https://review.openstack.org/45808314:58
sdakespsurya ok well 2 would do :)14:59
sdakespsurya they need ot be on different subnets I htink15:00
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spsuryasdake will that create problem15:03
spsurya?15:03
sdakespsurya neutron may implode15:03
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spsuryaI will give it a try15:04
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: Update deployment-guide.rst document for ubuntu  https://review.openstack.org/45808315:08
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inc0sdake: service redux reviews? k15:12
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: Remove services/keystone  https://review.openstack.org/45285315:23
sdakehttps://www.openstack.org/assets/survey/April2017SurveyReport.pdf15:23
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egonzalezinc0, page 11 in SurveyReport ^^15:26
inc0ha, I'm famous!15:27
inc0;)15:27
inc0kolla has more deployments than tripleO!15:28
egonzalezguess a lot of people don't know rhosp is tripleO15:30
inc0possibly15:30
sdakeegonzalez are you talking about the NPS score?15:30
inc0can't see mention of fuel, osa or any other deployment tool15:31
inc0according to this survey, we are most popular deployment tool in the field :)15:31
inc0w00t!15:31
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sdakepage 18 is telling15:32
sdakeinc0 which page?15:32
inc0just ctrl-f kolla15:32
sdakeA common deployment and15:32
sdakelifecycle management tool/15:32
sdakeframework would really make15:32
sdakethings easier. Having every15:32
sdakedistribution use its own tools15:32
sdakereally doesn’t help.15:32
sdakepage 1815:32
inc0I was looking at used projects15:33
inc0there are 2 deployment tools in the list15:33
inc0us and tripleO15:33
sdakepage 32 is rockin15:34
sdake13% in dev/prod15:34
sdakeup from 4% in dev/prod in april15:34
sdakemonster growth15:34
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sdakepage 59 is interesting15:35
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla master: Add missing cleanup step for heat images  https://review.openstack.org/45347115:36
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inc0people have kolla-k8s deployments?!15:36
sdakeinc0 don't know what to tell you :)15:37
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inc0I'm impressed15:37
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inc0I mean we didn't release 1.015:37
inc0I hope these aren't prod15:37
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sdakeinc0 who knows15:38
sdakeit is clear from the docs kolla-kubernetes is not ready for production15:38
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sdakeinc0 that doesn't mean people aren't usign it :)15:39
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openstackgerritDan Ardelean proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add Hyper-V role  https://review.openstack.org/45568415:39
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hrwdoes someone builds ubuntu based pike images with kolla?15:50
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openstackgerritMarcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/kolla master: Support non-x86 architectures (aarch64, ppc64le)  https://review.openstack.org/43094015:56
hrwnot yet final but much better than it was15:56
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hrweh. bug ;(16:07
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openstackgerritMarcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/kolla master: Support non-x86 architectures (aarch64, ppc64le)  https://review.openstack.org/43094016:10
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openstackgerritSerguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: WIP Fixing ironic deployment failure on Ubuntu  https://review.openstack.org/44980316:19
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inc0ehh LABEL might not be too useful :S16:30
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pbourkewoot!16:34
pbourkekolla is surging in that report16:34
pbourkeinc0: whats the deal with labels then16:35
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openstackgerritKevin Fox proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: Test Ceph OSD Chart  https://review.openstack.org/45730216:44
kfox1111morning.16:44
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portdirecthey whos using kolla-k8s in prod right now?16:46
portdirecthttps://www.openstack.org/assets/survey/April2017SurveyReport.pdf, page 59 is awesome! but not sure if that many people are?16:47
inc0pbourke: I can't figure out how to add LABEL from runtime info16:48
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jascott1morning16:54
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srwilkerssup jascott116:56
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jascott1hey man16:56
jascott1hanging in the helm meeting16:56
jascott1srwilkers how r things?16:56
srwilkersjascott1, pretty good dude. been outside of helm for a bit, so having some golang withdrawals16:57
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jascott1gophenstacken16:57
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manheimegonzalez thanks for the commets on the hyperv stuff17:04
kfox1111portdirect: I'm gearing up for it, but arn't yet.17:04
kfox1111the usersurvey is interesting.17:05
kfox111129% liberty, 42% mitaka, 27% newton.17:05
kfox1111so, I still assert we should support mitaka in kolla-kubernetes well enough to get it running as a way to do easier migrations.17:06
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kfox1111oh. its skewed even further in production.17:07
kfox111133% liberty, 42% mitaka, 23% newton.17:08
inc0kfox1111: that's because there was no good upgradable deployment tool back then17:08
kfox1111yeah.17:09
inc0osa was close, our first release was mitaka, but only now we get enough traction to make bigger difference17:09
inc0we need to reach out to these 42% people and make case for brownfield migration to kolla-mitaka17:09
inc0after that upgrades gets easier17:10
kfox1111it does mean, there are a lot of clouds out there and giving them a path from where they are to kolla-kubernetes thats up to date would give us a much better chance of getting adoption.17:10
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kfox1111+117:10
inc0or kolla-ansible17:10
kfox1111sure.17:10
inc0I think kolla-ansible might be more attractive as it's less different from regular ops17:11
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kfox1111possibly.17:13
kfox1111though stuff like self healing and much better visibility counter some of that.17:13
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kfox1111interesting. ansible's use for deployment is higher then puppet.17:15
inc0that was case for last few releases at least17:15
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kfox111148% of clouds are running ceph rbd for cinder.17:17
kfox111115% lvm.17:17
kfox1111surprised lvm is that high.17:17
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kfox1111very interesting. "how do you use Kolla", N=3117:19
kfox1111~13 users reporting using kolla-kubernetes.17:20
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jascott1kfox1111 went to helm meeting seeking wisdom on helm init scope... had another +1 to just doing the template out thing but some pledges to comment on the proposal17:25
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openstackgerritKevin Fox proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: Test Ceph OSD Chart  https://review.openstack.org/45730217:31
kfox1111jascott1: just --template or still a few key flags like --kind=daemonset?17:32
jascott1kfox1111 trending towards just --template17:33
kfox1111:/17:33
kfox1111doable. just much harder to deploy with in that mode.17:34
sbezverkkfox1111: lvm is getting nice features and some new development in  cinder community happen, so you should not discard it ;) it might get to the point of being as popular as ceph17:34
kfox1111sbezverk: highly doubt that.17:34
jascott1some peoples mantra is helm init is for newbs and everyone else should do all their own heavy lifting17:34
sbezverkkfox1111: will see ;)17:34
jascott1matt seemed interested in our CNI loading case tho17:35
kfox1111sbezverk: the lack of easy ha makes it really fragile.17:35
sbezverkkfox1111: that what I heard people ar working on17:35
kfox1111sbezverk: indeed.17:35
sbezverkkfox1111: not lvm related question17:35
kfox1111jascott1: yeah, thats one way of thinking... I don't nessisarily agree you either are a newb or an expert.17:36
sbezverkkfox1111: 1 ovs bridge has uplink with 2 vlan tags17:36
kfox1111jascott1: you can be an expert and just need a common config to be easy to use.17:36
jascott1agree17:36
kfox1111sbezverk: k. that should work ok.17:37
jascott1i think there should be *some* controls over where Tiller lands without going to template17:37
sbezverkkfox1111: several VMs are connected to corresponding tags example vm 1 is connected with interface17:37
kfox1111sbezverk: I do that on one cloud.17:37
sbezverkin tag 1 and another vm with tag 217:37
sbezverkit seems vm must be tag aware17:37
kfox1111you want to put vm's directly on external nets?17:37
sbezverkas when ovs port is configured with tag ovs bridge does not strip tag and pass it along with l2 header17:38
kfox1111or do you want fips on the external networks to tunnel into vms?17:38
sbezverkso when packet gets to vm, vn looks for interface mapped to that tag17:39
kfox1111please describe use case first.17:39
sbezverkkfox1111: it is not openstack related17:39
sbezverkit is virsh setup17:39
kfox1111ah.17:39
kfox1111ok.17:39
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kfox1111if not using neutron, thats different.17:40
kfox1111sec...17:40
sbezverkI want ovs strip vlan tag before it sends packet to des vm17:40
spsuryakfox1111: sup17:40
spsuryaplease see yr PC17:40
sbezverkbasically tags are used to partition that ovs bridge17:40
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kfox1111sbezverk: I've got an example of this working. trying to dig it up.17:44
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sbezverkkfox1111: would be great, since I have single upstream trunk I cannot just use two separate switches17:45
sdakejascott1 i'm a noob and an expert - what label should I have?17:47
sdakespsurya kfox1111 is terrible about reading private messages17:47
sdakespsurya recommend just using the channel :)17:47
spsuryasdake: :)17:48
kfox1111or slack. it actually works for pm's.17:48
spsuryasdake: i understood17:48
spsurya:)17:48
sdakekfox1111 if you two youths were running macs, you could have a nice irc client that actually works correctly :)17:48
kfox1111sdake: centos7.17:48
sdakekfox1111 roger - well then - there is no good irc cleint for linux :(17:49
sdakexchat is about as good as it  gets17:49
sdakekfox1111 i can say that after using irc for 20 years :)17:49
kfox1111been using irssi in screen on my offsite.17:49
sdakeyup irssi is pretty terrible ;)17:49
kfox1111works really well, except no noisy notifications when a pm happens. :/17:49
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sdaketextual rocks17:50
sdakeshame they dont have a linux versoin17:50
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sdakecan't believe i went 20+ years on irc without it :)17:50
inc0which graph driver you guys use for centos?17:52
sdakeinc0 standard - seems to work well enough for setup/teradown17:52
sdakeinc0 - wouldn't put it into production that way however17:52
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inc0asking for prod17:53
sdakeinc0 also using red hat's version17:53
sdakeinc0 for production i'd use btrfs17:53
sdakeinc0 overlay is good for dev, although it will potentially eat your system17:54
sbezverkkfox1111: I think I found solution17:54
inc0because overlay2 is a thing:P17:54
sdakeinc0 i haen't used overlya for a long time - the last time it returned ????????????? as permissions, i was like "ugh"17:55
sbezverkkfox1111: native='untagged'17:55
sdakeand stopped using it17:55
sdakeinc0 it may have improved in rhel kernels17:55
sdakeinc0 that was 1+ year ago17:55
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inc0deploying 50 nodes prod kolla-ansible18:06
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inc0gonna be fun fun18:07
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jascott1sdake noobpert18:08
sdakehttp://dilbert.com/strip/2010-10-2618:09
jascott1haha18:09
sdakeinc0 nice :)18:10
sdakeinc0 have you switched to the dark side and running centos?18:10
inc0no, was forced to18:10
inc0although I might check centos on desktop18:10
sdakethats ok - all thee cool kits are switching to centos anyway :)18:11
inc0had some strange issues with ubuntu lately18:11
sdakekits/kids18:11
inc0I have strange setup at home now18:11
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inc02 graphic cards - radeon and geforce:P18:11
sdakecentos is maintained, works, and i know how to use it18:11
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jascott1speaking of noobs, i think this is great overview of k8s networking https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Omvgd7Hg1I&list=PLj6h78yzYM2PAavlbv0iZkod4IVh_iGqV&index=3818:11
inc0radeon for gamin, geforce for cuda18:11
inc0ubuntu doesn't seem to handle it very well18:12
openstackgerritMarcus Williams proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add OpenDaylight role  https://review.openstack.org/41636718:14
kfox1111sbezverk: https://pastebin.com/2Pxrdf7f18:14
sbezverkkfox1111: thanks18:14
kfox1111I then tag the vm's with the ports.18:16
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kfox1111so... how can we get focus from the k8s folks on the mount shared namespace issue?18:20
kfox1111it seems to have been dropped again.18:20
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sbezverkkfox1111: I guess it will get moving only when sme developers will get real interest in it18:21
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kfox1111it sounded like it was all but implemented but then they paniced and backed off.18:22
kfox1111I really want to know what it will take to finish it. I'd code it myself if need be, but need to know an aproach that is acceptable to them. :/18:22
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openstackgerritKevin Fox proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: Test Ceph OSD Chart  https://review.openstack.org/45730218:31
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openstackgerritBertrand Lallau proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: WIP: set kibana default index pattern  https://review.openstack.org/45815619:42
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kfox1111yay.20:10
kfox1111sbezverk: inc0: sdake: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/457302/ please. :)20:10
sdakekfox1111 you got it20:10
sdakemoment20:10
kfox1111now we're just down to secrets and configmaps in kollakube I think.20:11
sdakekfox1111 why hostpid?20:11
kfox1111ceph does connection tracking using hostname and pids,20:12
kfox1111if there are overlaps because pid namespaces, the connections fight with eatch other.20:12
sdakegot it20:12
sdakeat one point /dev required a special flag20:12
sdakeor maybe i am misremembering that with something that actually merged without a flag20:13
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kfox1111this ps is basically just a streight port of the jinja2 to helm.20:13
sdakeoh well :)20:13
sdakekfox1111 roger20:13
kfox1111they are only inteneded for testing, so known issues with it to make it more general/cleaner.20:14
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kfox1111sdake: none of the experimental jobs touch ceph I think.20:14
kfox1111not until I get teh 4.x stuff working at least.20:15
sdakekfox1111 at one point computekit was experimental20:15
kfox1111thx.20:15
sdakeinfra approved my patch to chang eit20:15
kfox1111cool.20:15
sdakeI saw that - adn the n+2/+wed20:15
kfox1111yeah, it shoudl be non exp.20:15
kfox1111thx.20:15
jascott1is there a reference somewhere for all the k8s resources (besides the source) ?20:17
kfox1111jascott1: like, object types in k8s? daemonset, deployment, etc?20:17
jascott1oh sorry I meant the YAML20:17
jascott1like exhasutive reference for all properties20:17
kfox1111yeah. its a bit weirdly documented.20:18
kfox1111its like in their api guide...20:18
openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: Test Ceph OSD Chart  https://review.openstack.org/45730220:18
jascott1cool i will keep looking20:18
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kfox1111https://kubernetes.io/docs/api-reference/v1.6/20:19
kfox1111looks like they changed the ui quite a lot. harder to read I think. :/20:19
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kfox1111anyone ever configure rabbit to just log to stdout/error?20:22
jascott1iirc its swagger... they dont have the example responses20:24
jascott1"Coming soon!"20:24
kfox1111swagger-ui?20:25
kfox1111or some other ui?20:25
kfox1111not really important...20:25
jascott1nah swagger or RAML are both fine for me but it helps to completely document the response bodies :/20:26
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kfox1111yeah.20:34
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openstackgerritKevin Fox proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: Docker Logging Support  https://review.openstack.org/45864920:38
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openstackgerritBertrand Lallau proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Fix Kibana checking free port interface  https://review.openstack.org/45865521:05
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sbezverkkfox1111: do you know any ovs expert/developer?21:08
kfox1111not really. :/  whats up?21:10
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/kolla stable/ocata: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/45286921:11
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/ocata: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/45287021:11
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sbezverkkfox1111: I see some strange behavior with ovs bridges.21:13
sbezverkinitially ot works but when I add more vms connectivity breaks21:13
kfox1111direct or with neutron.21:13
sbezverkdirect21:14
kfox1111how are you adding the vm?21:14
sbezverkjust start them21:14
sbezverkwhat is frustrating is inconsistency21:14
sbezverkit would have been much easier if it did not work at all21:14
kfox1111in the vm, do you have something like:21:15
kfox1111<source network='ovs-network' portgroup='foo'/>21:15
sbezverkkfox1111: I decided to go with the simplest config21:15
kfox1111the config I gave is the simpliest I've ever gotten to work.21:15
sbezverkno tagging, each group of vms shares their own ovs bridge21:15
kfox1111but are you trying to isolate them, or tie them in together?21:16
kfox1111cause if the latter, one bridge is simpler.21:16
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sbezverkok each vm has 3 nics21:17
sbezverk1 management 1 external 1 provisioning21:17
kfox1111k.21:17
kfox1111each on its own bridge?21:17
sbezverkright21:17
kfox1111internal to one machine, or do yo utry and get the bridges out to a physican nic?21:17
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kfox1111physical21:17
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sbezverkthe only fancy thing I do is I have trunk which is also bond interface21:18
kfox1111two physical nics in a bond, then added to all 3 bridges with tags?21:18
sbezverkI do bond0.10 and plug it in 1 bridge21:18
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sbezverkthen bond0.90 plug it to second bridge21:19
kfox1111yeah. I tried that for a while, untagging outside of the bridges.21:19
kfox1111did not have good luck with that.21:19
sbezverk:(21:19
kfox1111it worked for a months, then after a reboot, it all fell apart, and never made it work again. :/21:19
sbezverkfunny thing is it works for a bit but then stop21:19
kfox1111I gave up and switched to one bridge, and tagging the ports into the vm's.21:19
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kfox1111yeah. that tracks with what I saw too.21:20
kfox1111I went down that same path, and almost want crazy trying to debug it. :/21:20
sbezverkkfox1111: but in vm you need to use things like eth0.X21:20
kfox1111it looks like it should work.21:20
kfox1111sbezverk: no.21:20
kfox1111you make the network in libvirt aware of the vlans in the network description,21:20
kfox1111it breaks them out to 'portgroups',21:20
kfox1111and when you pluin the vm to the network you specify the portgroup for the interface.21:21
kfox1111so, looks the same as what your trying. 3 nics.21:21
sbezverkkfox1111: ok I will give a try to portgroup21:21
sbezverknever used them before21:21
kfox1111each specify a portgroup. then it tags/untags going out/in from the vm.21:21
kfox1111yeah. I never did myself until having to fix this same issue. :/21:21
kfox1111but it turned out working really well.21:21
sbezverkkfox1111:21:22
sbezverkkfox1111: sorry pressed enter21:22
kfox1111no worries. :)21:22
sbezverkkfox1111: what I do not like about port group, from the first look. I need to define those network in virsh kinbd of separately from vms xml files21:23
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sbezverkbut I guess it is necessary evil21:23
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kfox1111yeah. you define a network, then plug vm's into networks.21:34
kfox1111I do kind of like it in a way.21:35
kfox1111it lets you use eseeentially the same vm xml everywhere, and do the network config in a system specific way.21:35
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openstackgerritBertrand Lallau proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: WIP: set kibana default index pattern  https://review.openstack.org/45815621:40
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sbezverkkfox1111: how do you plug uplink to the bridge, manually?21:43
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kfox1111I'm running centos7 which has native ovs support.21:44
kfox1111so I setup the bridge in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts at boot,21:44
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kfox1111and throw the network.yaml example I gave you in /etc/libvirt/qemu/networks/21:45
kfox1111and symlink it in /etc/libvirt/qemu/networks/autostart/21:45
kfox1111my system only has one nic, so I bridge the physical nic right into ovs,21:45
kfox1111the host also has interfaces on that ovs.21:45
sbezverkkfox1111: ok thanks will try it21:46
kfox1111I can show you some exaple configs of that if your using el7.21:46
openstackgerritBertrand Lallau proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Grafana: automatically set InfuxDB datasource  https://review.openstack.org/45709421:47
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sbezverkkfox1111: thanks a lot.. let me try first, if it fails appreciate then some examples21:54
kfox1111k.21:55
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kfox1111heh. openstack upgrades never go smoothly... :/22:17
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sbezverkkfox1111: even with portgroup see similar issue, it run for few minutes and then dies22:18
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kfox1111so far, one recently merged ps is required to migrate to newton, and one that was posted less then 3 hours ago. :/22:25
kfox1111still in review.22:25
kfox1111openstack really needs to figure out upgrades. :/22:25
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openstackgerritKevin Fox proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: Docker Logging Support  https://review.openstack.org/45864922:30
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jascott1kfox1111 ah crap can we really pull of deployment to daemoneset with --set? i didnt think about that one22:47
jascott1iirc you changed its kind and removed a field?22:47
kfox1111yeah, set would be difficult to do kind=daemonset or kind=pod22:47
kfox1111yeah.22:48
kfox1111and pod woudl require everything outside the spec.template to be removed.22:48
jascott1we might can live with difficult but not impossible22:48
jascott1arg22:48
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kfox1111you'd really need an unset for kind=daemonset.22:48
kfox1111maybe --set could take a - flag to do an unset. but I don't know if the existing code could do that.22:49
kfox1111so, my recommendation would be to still support --kind and --node-selector.22:50
jascott1yeah was just thinking it doesnt have to be exactly like helm install wrt to --set behavior22:50
kfox1111--set and --template would be cool.22:50
jascott1idk --set spec.template- as you said might work for us22:52
jascott1also the daemonset is a workaround that might get changed by k8s fixig bug or helm doing multi master so investing in --kind is probably alarming to many22:53
kfox1111- usually deletes.22:55
kfox1111the problem is for pod, it needs to reparent.22:55
kfox1111I can see wanting to run helm as iether Deployment, DaemonSet, or static Pod.22:56
kfox1111The first works on any k8s.22:56
kfox1111the second works as an integrated piece of a control plane for doing sdn.22:56
kfox1111the third can be used to build a self hosting k8s. using helm to deploy and manage kube-apiserver itself.22:57
kfox1111ala bootkube.22:57
sbezverkkfox1111Ь шчат ис тче усе цасе фор даемонсет?22:57
kfox1111my terminal wont display that. a shrug?22:58
sbezverkkfox1111: oops what is the use case for daemonset?22:58
kfox1111sbezverk: today, k8s 1.6 won't land a pod on a system without sdn running even if its net=host. :/22:58
kfox1111with the exception of if its a daemonset.22:58
sbezverkkfox1111: sdn == canal or some flavor?22:59
kfox1111sbezverk: yeah.22:59
kfox1111so to use helm to deploy an sdn as a helm chart, helm needs to run in a daemonset, not a deployment.22:59
kfox1111tested it here:22:59
sbezverkkfox1111: got it, interesting why they have made this exception23:00
kfox1111https://review.openstack.org/#/c/456964/23:00
kfox1111sbezverk: its an iterative thing. they are switchign from hard coded logic in the scheduler,23:00
kfox1111to using taints/tolerations.23:00
kfox1111so nodes without sdn would taint, and pods that coudl deal with it woudld tolerate it.23:00
kfox1111but it is a work in progress, and the hard coded logic is still in the scheduler. :/23:01
sbezverkkfox1111: yea I read some k8s devs were discussing major changes in 1.723:03
kfox1111I'm not holding my breath for it actually being in 1.7 though. things take a while in k8s.23:03
sbezverkin this area, but with all thing I would not be surprised if it gets done in 2.7 ;)23:04
kfox1111indeed. ;)23:04
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jascott1kfox1111 how much is in the key that needs reparenting? can we just delete and --set it in new location?23:08
kfox1111jascott1: was looking into that.23:09
kfox1111give me another minute to verify.23:09
jascott1great23:09
kfox1111jascott1: here's a working tiller in a static pod I'm running in production23:13
kfox1111https://pastebin.com/0sM9GU2D23:13
kfox1111compared to the default Deployment,23:13
kfox1111kind Deployment -> Pod, everything outside of spec.template gets deleted and everything inside gets moved to the root,23:14
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kfox1111and a volume/volumeMount/env needs adding.23:14
kfox1111since tiller can't just get a service acount token from the running system.23:15
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jascott1so sounds like we will have to use --template < until bug is fixed or helm moves to daemonset23:19
jascott1seems like too much for a one liner without --kind anyway23:20
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jascott1if its just a static yaml shouldnt it be --file or similar?23:23
kfox1111--template for which feature? or both?23:24
jascott1--template is taking in yaml from file right?23:25
kfox1111was thinking something like: helm init --kind=pod > /etc/kubernetes/manifests/tiller.yaml23:25
kfox1111was thinking --template was kind of like --dry-run.23:25
jascott1ooh23:25
kfox1111print out to stdout, so it can be tweaked by other tools.23:25
kfox1111if it was json outputed,23:26
kfox1111could be tweaked with something like jq.23:26
kfox1111helm init --kind=daemonset --node-selector=controller=t --template | jq  '.spec.template.metadata.attributes.mythingy=foo' > mytiller.yaml; kubectl create -f mytiller.yaml23:27
kfox1111I think the three use cases I stated above are the primary ones. if those can be made easy, something like --template could be used by people writing shell scripts to do more advanced things.23:28
jascott1--template is not named well imo23:30
kfox1111could be. any other suggestions?23:30
kfox1111--dry-run doesn't seem fitting to me.23:31
jascott1hamster is runnin23:31
kfox1111:)23:31
kfox1111--dump ? --json?23:31
kfox1111--tiller-json23:31
jascott1-o --output like kubectl but doesnt let you know that its not doing the install23:31
jascott1--output also lets yo specify yaml or json23:32
kfox1111true23:32
jascott1output-only? idk23:32
jascott1--tiller-json prob best so far?23:33
kfox1111or --tiller-output -o json ?23:34
jascott1nice23:34
jascott1ah but two flags23:35
jascott1got it23:35
jascott1--tiller-output23:35
jascott1defaults to json23:35
jascott1but like -o can be --tiller-output=yaml (someday)23:35
kfox1111oh... .wait....23:36
kfox1111--tiller-output=kube is the default.23:36
kfox1111--tiller-output=json :)23:36
kfox1111if kube, its the upload behavior? :)23:36
jascott1ah gotcha23:37
jascott1hmm23:37
jascott1also helm writes some stuff to stdout23:38
jascott1helm init rather23:38
kfox1111stdout or stderr?23:38
jascott1hapy helming and all that23:38
jascott1maybe no big deal if we dont do that when flag is set23:39
kfox1111or redirect that output to stderr when flag set?23:39
kfox1111then piping would still work, as it only does stdout by default.23:40
jascott1id prob just call it an alternative mode and not print that all23:41
kfox1111that works too.23:41
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jascott1cause then you break scripts that see stderr coming out of helm23:41
kfox1111if outputting, it would skip all the client init stuff too that way.23:41
kfox1111well, they wouldn't be calling the flag unless they know how to deal with it.23:42
jascott1true23:42
jascott1they could run it once to get output and again to install client23:42
kfox1111but, yeah. probably can just skip over all the stuff thats outputing.23:42
jascott1(helm)23:42
kfox1111yeah. client only flag is already there I think.23:42
jascott1ya23:42
jascott1so --tiller-output just dumps the resource def and nothing else23:43
jascott1?23:43
kfox1111yeah.23:43
jascott1isnt that the same as seding or yaml parsing a static version23:44
jascott1it would be cool with --set cause then could just follow with ; kubectl apply and be done23:45
jascott1in most cases23:45
jascott1not ours unfortunately23:46
kfox1111jascott1: it skips al lthe parts of uploading/downloading/deleting.23:46
jascott1right but we could still template it on the way out and it foes into manifests dir23:47
kfox1111+123:47
jascott1idk they will go for kind so we are still same boat as before it seems23:47
kfox1111not sure. might need to get technosophos  to weigh in.23:48
sbezverkkfox1111: it seems connectivity issue I see is related to kubernetes :( as soon as it starts, it kills arp reply23:49
jascott1sounds good23:49
kfox1111sbezverk: oh. interesting.23:49
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sbezverkkfox1111: well, I would rather to pass on this type of issue atm23:50
kfox1111sbezverk: which issue. the arp?23:50
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jascott1it kills me that helm manages manifests but not its own :/23:52
sbezverkkfox1111: yep I need working cluster and not wasting time on this :( I do not think people at summit will fully appreciate broken connectivity23:53
kfox1111yeah...23:54
kfox1111jascott1: yeah. that was really surprising to me.23:54
kfox1111jascott1: I think thats partiallyl due to the lack of template plugin directly in helm.23:54
kfox1111jascott1: I asked technosophos if he would merge it in. he said its a strong possibility.23:54
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jascott1cool23:55
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sbezverkkfox1111: must be something with kube-proxy23:55
sbezverkas I clearly see incoming arp packet on the inteface but no arp reply is generated..23:56
kfox1111kube is in the vm's or on the physical host?23:58
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