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| openstackgerrit | shaofeng cheng proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add vlan tenant network support https://review.openstack.org/474416 | 01:23 |
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| openstack_ididot | hi everyone | 03:36 |
| openstack_ididot | i had a query i am trying to install ceph service in kolla ansible using loopback file system | 03:37 |
| openstack_ididot | i am getting error in step bootstrapping ceph osd | 03:37 |
| openstack_ididot | does ceph even support loopbackfile system | 03:38 |
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| openstack_ididot | i had a query i am trying to install ceph service in kolla ansible using loopback file system i am getting error in step bootstrapping ceph osd does ceph even support loopbackfile system | 04:03 |
| openstack_ididot | ?? | 04:04 |
| spsurya | morning | 04:05 |
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| openstack_ididot | i had a query i am trying to install ceph service in kolla ansible using loopback file system i am getting error in step bootstrapping ceph osd does ceph even support loopbackfile system | 04:57 |
| openstackgerrit | narasimha18sv proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: enable CORS for Gnocchi and Keystone for grafana datasource https://review.openstack.org/454186 | 05:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Bertrand Lallau proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Remove Ubuntu Trusty 14.04 related code https://review.openstack.org/474778 | 05:46 |
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| jascott1 | anyone know this rkornicam person? | 07:05 |
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| * jascott1 assumes it was kolla related | 07:06 | |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Replace always_run by check_mode https://review.openstack.org/474439 | 07:17 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/474651 | 08:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Helena proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Enabled the deployment of networking-sfc with kolla https://review.openstack.org/474887 | 08:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Helena proposed openstack/kolla master: Update the instructions for deploying with networking-sfc https://review.openstack.org/474888 | 08:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eduardo Gonzalez proposed openstack/kolla master: Add sfc plugin into neutron-base image https://review.openstack.org/461748 | 08:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eduardo Gonzalez proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Finish/fix neutron sfc service https://review.openstack.org/461745 | 08:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/474650 | 09:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla master: Add Apache packages to ironic-api container https://review.openstack.org/474141 | 09:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eduardo Gonzalez proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add if enable_outward_rabbitmq in haproxy.cfg https://review.openstack.org/474927 | 09:36 |
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| numans | I have a question regarding this patch - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/467712/ on adding opendaylight neutron-server image | 09:51 |
| numans | Is it expected the same for other networking-* plugins like networking-ovn ? | 09:51 |
| numans | or is this one off case. | 09:52 |
| numans | egonzalez, Hi. Do you any comments for my question above. | 09:52 |
| numans | just want to know if we need to do the same for networking-ovn or not | 09:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Paul Bourke (pbourke) proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Make glance filesystem_store_datadir configurable. https://review.openstack.org/452094 | 09:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Paul Bourke (pbourke) proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Only start one glance_api when using file backend https://review.openstack.org/448654 | 09:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla master: kolla-build log to stderr https://review.openstack.org/469329 | 09:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla master: kolla-build --list-dependencies use json, not pprint https://review.openstack.org/469741 | 10:04 |
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| pbourke | any cores other than egonzalez free to review this please? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/454206/ | 10:13 |
| pbourke | Jeffrey4l: ^ | 10:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add if enable_outward_rabbitmq in haproxy.cfg https://review.openstack.org/474927 | 10:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Skydive: fix facts retrieved two times https://review.openstack.org/474615 | 10:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Simplify condition check on standalone services https://review.openstack.org/474610 | 10:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eduardo Gonzalez proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Implement blazar ansible role https://review.openstack.org/454752 | 10:44 |
| openstackgerrit | jimmygc proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add vSphere support to nova_compute https://review.openstack.org/449529 | 10:45 |
| egonzalez | Jeffrey4l, when is ocata tagged? | 10:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Removing ovs bridge before destroying container https://review.openstack.org/464998 | 10:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Fix doc warning https://review.openstack.org/465900 | 10:51 |
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| blallau | @pbourke I have done review on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/454206/ , regards | 11:10 |
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| blallau | any cores to review https://review.openstack.org/472977 ? thanks | 11:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Fix "Enable influxdb datasource" random error https://review.openstack.org/472977 | 11:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add vhost to outward rabbitmq for Murano https://review.openstack.org/454206 | 11:28 |
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| kbaegis | Morning everyone | 11:45 |
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| jsalvachua | Hello, good morning | 11:53 |
| jsalvachua | i am an spanish university professor. I teach cloud and openstack; and i think that kolla could be great for students to learn about openstack. | 11:54 |
| jsalvachua | i would like to know what way you recommend me to use : the ansible or the kubernetes version. | 11:55 |
| jsalvachua | also would love that some master thesis could be contributions to the project, so they learn more about it. | 11:55 |
| manheim | hei | 11:55 |
| jsalvachua | and if you need help at architecture level i can get involved too :) | 11:55 |
| manheim | you can use kolla-ansible | 11:55 |
| jsalvachua | fine | 11:56 |
| manheim | it's stable and easier to get into | 11:56 |
| manheim | and ofc, more documentation available | 11:56 |
| manheim | by far | 11:56 |
| jsalvachua | i like the idea of the kubernetes one. but perfect then i will work on it | 11:56 |
| jsalvachua | i will go for the ansible one them | 11:56 |
| jsalvachua | :) | 11:56 |
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| manheim | i remember I had the same question as you do | 11:56 |
| manheim | and I recommend ansible part | 11:57 |
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| jsalvachua | thanks | 11:57 |
| manheim | welcome | 11:57 |
| reidrac | jsalvachua: https://docs.openstack.org/developer/kolla-ansible/ is a good start point | 11:57 |
| jsalvachua | then for the lectures i will go for ansibl | 11:57 |
| reidrac | it includes a "how to contribute" section ;) | 11:57 |
| kbaegis | Anyone using ansible with ipv6? | 11:57 |
| jsalvachua | thanks, yes i had students (phd) that have contribute to keystone. | 11:58 |
| jsalvachua | but i am asking more about your feelings on what parts they could help | 11:58 |
| manheim | also, understanding openstack is not an easy task at all, but if you combine it with k8s it can be quite a mess | 11:58 |
| egonzalez | jsalvachua, is to contribute or to create labs for students? | 11:58 |
| jsalvachua | both, sorry for mixiing it | 11:59 |
| reidrac | jsalvachua: sometimes bug reports and code reviews are a good starting point | 11:59 |
| jsalvachua | for labs i will use the ansible one probably on amazon machines | 11:59 |
| jsalvachua | fine reidrac, will point them there. | 11:59 |
| kbaegis | Anyone using ansible with ipv6? Or a mixed ipv4/ipv6 setup? | 12:00 |
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| egonzalez | kubernetes is a good place to contribute, however students will need to know openstack first, as manheim said ansible is easier to get into | 12:01 |
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| egonzalez | kbaegis, nope | 12:01 |
| kbaegis | I like how you no longer have to start out with openstack by running devstack | 12:02 |
| jsalvachua | yes this is my idea. | 12:02 |
| jsalvachua | to make them use devstack sometimes get them distrated with the installation and not focuss on the architecture | 12:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eduardo Gonzalez proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Only use br-tun on network and compute nodes https://review.openstack.org/463509 | 12:19 |
| openstackgerrit | Eduardo Gonzalez proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Only use br-tun on network and compute nodes https://review.openstack.org/463509 | 12:21 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sam Betts proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: Ensure net=host pods can use k8s DNS https://review.openstack.org/474968 | 13:02 |
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| Jeffrey4l | egonzalez, wanna create the tag today. | 13:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Jeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/ocata: Removing ovs bridge before destroying container https://review.openstack.org/474970 | 13:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Eduardo Gonzalez proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Only use br-tun on network and compute nodes https://review.openstack.org/463509 | 13:35 |
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| inc0 | good morning | 14:18 |
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| pbourke | egonzalez: nice article on superuser | 14:28 |
| egonzalez | pbourke, thanks! | 14:29 |
| egonzalez | pbourke, are you having troubles to upgrade to ocata? | 14:29 |
| inc0 | egonzalez: link plz | 14:29 |
| egonzalez | inc0, http://superuser.openstack.org/articles/deploying-openstack-designate-kolla/ | 14:30 |
| pbourke | egonzalez: my colleague mickt is looking at it and having an issue around cells | 14:30 |
| pbourke | egonzalez: should it work to your knowledge? | 14:30 |
| pbourke | inc0: http://superuser.openstack.org/articles/deploying-openstack-designate-kolla/ | 14:30 |
| egonzalez | pbourke, if upgrading from kolla 3.0.3 should work | 14:31 |
| inc0 | pbourke: btw since you're still up, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/466132/ | 14:31 |
| inc0 | one of reasons we wanted this change in the first place is to create satelite projects to Kolla | 14:31 |
| inc0 | in near future I wanted to kick off another kolla deliverable to put underlaying networking in it | 14:32 |
| inc0 | remember changes that was meant to include calico or opnfv? | 14:32 |
| pbourke | inc0: hmm no | 14:32 |
| inc0 | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/416367/ one example | 14:32 |
| inc0 | calico was last year and it was big and hard enough so it was hardly reviewed by our core team | 14:33 |
| inc0 | we ended up not having it because guy who ran this change changed jobs before it merged | 14:33 |
| inc0 | it's going to be the case with most of underlaying networking stuff | 14:33 |
| inc0 | I figured it might be good idea to put them out of tree | 14:34 |
| inc0 | with dedicated networking minded core team | 14:34 |
| pbourke | im just not sure about this | 14:34 |
| inc0 | why not? | 14:34 |
| pbourke | if they're out of tree and specialised, perhaps they dont need to follow all of kolla's procedures and can have their own build tools etc. | 14:34 |
| inc0 | but what if they want to | 14:34 |
| inc0 | I wouldn't block it | 14:35 |
| inc0 | if you want to deploy your own, even properitary, stuff alongside kolla, it would be nice to have same standard and featureset | 14:35 |
| pbourke | fyi, I dont feel really strongly about this so I dont mind if this merges. But, we should try limit the scope of what we do in this project | 14:35 |
| inc0 | as in, opesntack on top of oracle:) | 14:35 |
| pbourke | before it becomes a massive "kitchen sink" | 14:35 |
| pbourke | build.py already has about 20 too many args imo | 14:36 |
| inc0 | that's actually part of it | 14:36 |
| inc0 | instead of putting all dockerfiles ever to Kolla tree | 14:36 |
| inc0 | allow people to put them if they care enough to go through review process | 14:36 |
| inc0 | so ad args, I think that lots of args could be configs | 14:37 |
| inc0 | but I think it's just how oslo.conf is wired that they are args and configs automatically | 14:37 |
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| pbourke | config items are the same thing really | 14:37 |
| pbourke | its more about keeping things simple | 14:37 |
| inc0 | I'm ok with having 100 configs | 14:38 |
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| inc0 | but that's a different problem to solve I think | 14:38 |
| pbourke | https://twitter.com/_inc0_/status/874685835806818304 | 14:38 |
| inc0 | ahh | 14:38 |
| pbourke | when was the last time kolla said no to anything | 14:38 |
| inc0 | yeah | 14:38 |
| inc0 | well Kolla was created with having a lot of pieces which doesn't touch each other | 14:39 |
| inc0 | so it's easy to just give blanket agreement on all the dockerfiles | 14:39 |
| inc0 | or roles for that matter | 14:39 |
| inc0 | in fact, part of why I want to add these features is to be able to say no without screwing people over | 14:40 |
| inc0 | as in "yeah...this is service which is run in 0.01% clouds, how about you host it somewhere else, you still easily plug it into kolla" | 14:41 |
| pbourke | well on that matter | 14:41 |
| inc0 | and as for build.py being bad and giant, I agree, maybe we should address it in Queens? PTG session? | 14:41 |
| pbourke | we should look at some rules for what roles/images get added | 14:41 |
| pbourke | egonzalez mentioned this before | 14:41 |
| inc0 | that too, but I don't want to do it before we allow to add out-of-tree rules/images | 14:42 |
| pbourke | as people come along and add stuff, then change jobs or whatever, and it gets left to rot | 14:42 |
| inc0 | for people who need something badly enough to write and support these themselves | 14:42 |
| inc0 | I would even drop some of things we already have to separate repo/dir | 14:42 |
| inc0 | when that's the thing | 14:42 |
| inc0 | to mark them as "not really know it works" | 14:43 |
| pbourke | yeah | 14:43 |
| inc0 | but again, for that we need way to build out of tree | 14:43 |
| pbourke | are people really clamoring for this? | 14:44 |
| inc0 | yes, as in, I'm myself part of effort to create OPNFV stack deployment mechanism alongside Kolla | 14:44 |
| inc0 | also they will start when we stop giving blanket agreement on putting things to Kolla | 14:45 |
| inc0 | we really need plugin mechanisms to kolla. | 14:45 |
| inc0 | problem is ansible is not well designed for plugin, at least not way we do it | 14:50 |
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| inc0 | but that's different problem to solve | 14:50 |
| pbourke | yeah dunno its a tricky one | 14:51 |
| openstackgerrit | Sam Betts proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: Ensure net=host pods can use k8s DNS https://review.openstack.org/474968 | 14:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Bradley Jones proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: (WIP) Deploy playbook using microservices https://review.openstack.org/473588 | 14:56 |
| inc0 | bradjones: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/474770/ | 14:57 |
| inc0 | I made docker for ya | 14:58 |
| bradjones | inc0: awesome thanks | 14:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jon Schlueter proposed openstack/kolla master: scsi-target-utils doesn't exist on rhel7+ https://review.openstack.org/474999 | 15:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Vladislav Belogrudov proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add possibility to configure tenant network types and type drivers https://review.openstack.org/469511 | 15:04 |
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| emccormick | Hey all. Is there a way to limit a "reconfigure" to just one service? For example, I make a change to cinder.conf and just want to redeploy that without scanning through everything. | 15:14 |
| emccormick | I see --tags as an option, but I see no tags in the roles | 15:14 |
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| pbourke | egonzalez: just saw your comments on the bug, will verify we're using 3.0.3, thanks! | 15:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Jon Schlueter proposed openstack/kolla master: scsi-target-utils doesn't exist on rhel7+ https://review.openstack.org/474999 | 15:15 |
| inc0 | emccormick: tags are specified in ansible/site.yml | 15:15 |
| inc0 | check out there | 15:15 |
| inc0 | and yes, --tags is the way | 15:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Revert "Enable port_security in gate to fix the neutron broken" https://review.openstack.org/474402 | 15:18 |
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| emccormick | inc0: Thanks! | 15:21 |
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| dave-mccowan | inc0 sbezverk sdake i have a question about kolla-kubernetes and helm configuration. in /etc/kolla/globals.yml, the key {{ kolla_enable_tls_external }} can be set to enable/disable TLS. can helm read this config value, or does it need to be set again somewhere for helm to read? | 15:25 |
| inc0 | dave-mccowan: we'll want to use similar config as kolla-ansible | 15:26 |
| sbezverk | dave-mccowan : helm cannot read it. globals.yml is only used when config gets generated.. | 15:26 |
| inc0 | however in all honesty, I don't think we took on external tls just yet | 15:27 |
| inc0 | well, but it does use globals.yml | 15:27 |
| inc0 | not helm, but, ansible generating configs | 15:27 |
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| dave-mccowan | inc0 i'm writing the code to support external tls for kollal-kubernetes now. | 15:28 |
| inc0 | ahh cool | 15:28 |
| dave-mccowan | inc0 sbezverk so, i should add a new config variable helm/all_values.yaml and cloud.yaml to enable tls? | 15:29 |
| inc0 | so today it works like this: we havce ansible here https://github.com/openstack/kolla-kubernetes/tree/master/ansible | 15:29 |
| inc0 | that does genconfig | 15:29 |
| sbezverk | dave-mccowan : if you add conditional inside of helm chart, then yes | 15:29 |
| inc0 | sbezverk: I think it will look like kolla-ansible | 15:29 |
| inc0 | so config file in haproxy | 15:29 |
| inc0 | so ansible-genconfig | 15:30 |
| inc0 | so globals.yml | 15:30 |
| zhubingbing | hi guys | 15:30 |
| inc0 | good evening Zhubing | 15:30 |
| sbezverk | inc0: nope. ansible genconfig prepares configmaps, that is it | 15:31 |
| inc0 | yes | 15:31 |
| inc0 | and configs are in configmaps right? | 15:31 |
| inc0 | so if you want to put new config option to config file, it's genconfig | 15:32 |
| sbezverk | inc0: all conditional are specified in either cloud yaml or all_values.yaml | 15:32 |
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| dave-mccowan | inc0 sbezverk i'll need a $localVals.haproxy-tls in this file: https://github.com/openstack/kolla-kubernetes/blob/master/helm/kolla-common/templates/_common_api_python_deployment.yaml#L35 to conditionally include the secret config map for certificates. | 15:32 |
| inc0 | so you probably will need both I guess? | 15:33 |
| inc0 | duh, we need to organize our configuration | 15:33 |
| inc0 | I guess I have new job in k8s | 15:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Vladislav Belogrudov proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add possibility to configure tenant network types and type drivers https://review.openstack.org/469511 | 15:33 |
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| dave-mccowan | inc0 sbezverk so, i should i haproxy-tls with default "no" to all_values.yaml, and add instructions to set that value in cloud.yaml to enable TLS? | 15:35 |
| sbezverk | dave-mccowan : yep | 15:35 |
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| sbezverk | we need to have default no for the gate | 15:36 |
| dave-mccowan | how does genconfig fit into this? do i need to make any changes to that? | 15:36 |
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| zhubingbing__ | around sdake | 15:44 |
| zhubingbing__ | around sbezverk | 15:45 |
| zhubingbing__ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/473588/3 | 15:45 |
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| zhubingbing__ | about this , i think we can add helm ansible module in kolla--kubernetes | 15:45 |
| zhubingbing__ | do you think about ? | 15:45 |
| sbezverk | zhubingbing__ yep, let me take a look | 15:47 |
| zhubingbing__ | ok | 15:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sam Betts proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: Make helm charts available in /usr/share https://review.openstack.org/475013 | 15:53 |
| sbezverk | zhubingbing__ : there is no decision about that yet. last update was that PoC for mariadb was requested to prove feasibility of this approach. So we are on standby atm.. | 15:54 |
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| zhubingbing__ | I mean we need to add a helm ansible module to finish helm related operations | 15:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Vladislav Belogrudov proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add possibility to configure tenant network types and type drivers https://review.openstack.org/469511 | 15:56 |
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| sbezverk | zhubingbing__ : sorry I do not follow, what do you mean by "helm ansible" module. please clarify | 16:02 |
| zhubingbing__ | https://github.com/ansible/ansible/pull/24883/commits/00684a3823cd0124e5eb93058d8c4b3e7af42eb1 | 16:03 |
| zhubingbing__ | u can look it ;) | 16:03 |
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| kfox1111 | oh, so ansible-helm, not helm ansible. | 16:07 |
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| kfox1111 | (helm has a plugin mechansim where the command follows, so 'helm ansible' would be an ansible plugin for helm) | 16:08 |
| kfox1111 | yay. kubernetes-dashboard chart finally merged to stable/charts | 16:08 |
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| sbezverk | kfox1111: it is crazy they came up with ansible module to manage helm charts??!! | 16:10 |
| sbezverk | it is like double wrapping | 16:10 |
| kfox1111 | hehe | 16:11 |
| kfox1111 | like I have always said, orchestration is a very religious topic. | 16:11 |
| sbezverk | I am trying to understand the advantage of calling helm not directly but via ansible module? | 16:11 |
| kfox1111 | everyone wants to do it their way. | 16:11 |
| sbezverk | anybody can explain?? | 16:11 |
| kfox1111 | ansible upgrade kolla-kubernetes | 16:11 |
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| Jeffrey4l | inc0, please review ocata release patch https://review.openstack.org/475014 and https://review.openstack.org/475015 | 16:13 |
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| inc0 | thanks Jeffrey4l | 16:13 |
| Jeffrey4l | np ;) | 16:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Michal Jastrzebski (inc0) proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Enable multi-scenario gates https://review.openstack.org/466815 | 16:15 |
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| dave-mccowan | inc0 when i teardown with kubeadm reset, then do through deployment-guide steps again, mariadb keeps getting stuck coming up. is there an extra clean-up step for mariadb? | 16:50 |
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| inc0 | no idea tbh, | 16:51 |
| * inc0 not an expert in kolla-k8s | 16:51 | |
| dave-mccowan | sbezverk ^^ ? | 16:52 |
| sbezverk | dave-mccowan : yes, you need to clean up volume which was created /var/lib/kolla/volumes/* | 16:54 |
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| lexy | i had a query i am trying to install ceph service in kolla ansible using loopback file system i am getting error in step bootstrapping ceph osd does ceph even support loopbackfile system | 16:54 |
| inc0 | lexy: so I found out just few days ago (you're in luck, I was dealing with this myself) | 16:56 |
| inc0 | that sgdisk doesn't work with loopback | 16:56 |
| inc0 | so what I ended up doing is to create dedicated loopback for journal and another one for osd | 16:56 |
| inc0 | look at this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/466815/15/tests/setup_ceph_disks.sh | 16:57 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michal Jastrzebski (inc0) proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Enable multi-scenario gates https://review.openstack.org/466815 | 17:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rob Crittenden proposed openstack/kolla master: Add images for novajoin services https://review.openstack.org/466268 | 18:06 |
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| emccormick | Is there a good way, aside from forcible nuking from the docker cli, to nuke a single service container from a host rather that the whole thing that cleanup-containers does? | 19:12 |
| emccormick | I'm trying to push an update of the cinder-volume container which I added nfs-utils to, but it doesn't seem to replace it on a deploy run | 19:13 |
| emccormick | It would seem I could tag it with an updated version number, but that would seem to require rebuilding and redeploying everything which seems wildly inefficient. | 19:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Dave McCowan proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: [WIP] Add support for HTTPS on external API network https://review.openstack.org/471992 | 19:26 |
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| emccormick | So I went the nuke the one container and redeploy route, but if there's a formalized method to do this it'd be great to know (and document) | 19:50 |
| dave-mccowan | kfox1111 ping | 19:55 |
| kfox1111 | pong | 19:55 |
| kfox1111 | whats up? | 19:56 |
| dave-mccowan | kfox1111 help me out with your comments on using a second port for https. as far as i know, keystone catalog doesn't support this. | 19:56 |
| dave-mccowan | kfox1111 there is only public_url registered for each service | 19:56 |
| kfox1111 | there's a public, internal and admin. | 19:57 |
| kfox1111 | should be able to have public be https and internal http. | 19:57 |
| kfox1111 | (though we never carefully vetted that internal services aren't always using internal endpoints and not sometimes public ones) | 19:57 |
| dave-mccowan | kfox1111 ok...cool. that's what i'm trying to do with this patch. | 19:57 |
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| kfox1111 | yeah. | 19:57 |
| kfox1111 | but you change all to https in the ps currently. | 19:58 |
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| kfox1111 | which is much tricker to handle. as you need to figure out all the places that need the ca cert. | 19:58 |
| dave-mccowan | kfox1111 the internal url is http://k8s-dns-name:port, and the public url is https://external-ip:port | 19:58 |
| kfox1111 | yeah. but do all services always lookup internal and not public? | 19:59 |
| kfox1111 | seen that be a bit goofy in the past on other clouds fyi | 19:59 |
| dave-mccowan | kfox1111 in kolla-ansible that is the case. i don't know about kolla-k8s yet. for it to work, that will have to be the case. | 20:00 |
| kfox1111 | k. | 20:00 |
| kfox1111 | I havent' looked at the config in that way in fine detail yet so cant say. | 20:00 |
| kfox1111 | its right from kolla-ansible though, so probably pretty close then. | 20:00 |
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| EmilienM | kfox1111, inc0 : I would love having your feedback on this thread, please: Re: [openstack-dev] [deployment][kolla][openstack-ansible][openstack-helm][tripleo] ansible role to produce oslo.config files for openstack services | 20:14 |
| kfox1111 | EmilienM: can you summerize it? | 20:16 |
| kfox1111 | otherwise, I'll have to look at it some other time. | 20:16 |
| EmilienM | kfox1111: tl;dr: Doug created an Ansible role that generate config files with Ansible, by using oslo.config data only, so no stupid template to maintain | 20:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Marcus Williams proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add OpenDaylight role https://review.openstack.org/416367 | 20:17 |
| kfox1111 | ah. | 20:17 |
| EmilienM | it sounds a little thing, but I think it's an area of collaboration between deployment tools | 20:17 |
| kfox1111 | so... in duscussing something similar with Pete, we were thinking there wasn't exactly a 1:1 mapping. | 20:18 |
| inc0 | EmilienM: so I was meaning to test that | 20:18 |
| kfox1111 | the oslo.config tool would spit out a descriptive file that can be used by tools to generate configs. | 20:18 |
| inc0 | but you're just generating yaml with ansible, which is fine, but to incorporate this into our logic is going to be problem | 20:18 |
| kfox1111 | and a reference tool was created that read that file, and some templates, and generated the real things. | 20:18 |
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| kfox1111 | For example, | 20:18 |
| EmilienM | inc0: of course it's a big change, for us too in tripleo | 20:19 |
| EmilienM | but we're really motivated by this change i think | 20:19 |
| kfox1111 | for kolla-kubernetes, we'd want it to not only generate an ini file, but an ini file wrapped up in a configMap structure. | 20:19 |
| inc0 | so what I'm saying is - rendering defaults is not a huge issue, putting variables we need to render is going to be bigger issue | 20:19 |
| kfox1111 | and ideally with some templated out logic that let certain fields be overridable. | 20:19 |
| EmilienM | kfox1111: yeah I don't see any problem | 20:19 |
| EmilienM | it's just some templating details | 20:19 |
| kfox1111 | right. | 20:19 |
| EmilienM | anyway, help is welcome on this topic | 20:20 |
| kfox1111 | so, if it covers that, I'm pretty good with the tool. | 20:20 |
| inc0 | also it won't work with container work I'm afraid | 20:20 |
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| EmilienM | it doesn't right now, but this kind of feedback needs to be known | 20:20 |
| inc0 | as no service will be installed on host, including oslo | 20:20 |
| kfox1111 | in some ways would prefer it not to be ansible, just as thats a religiously charged tool. but that is less important. | 20:20 |
| inc0 | you'd need to do this with docker exec | 20:20 |
| kfox1111 | I think jinja2/python script can handle the use case probably just as easily as ansible. | 20:21 |
| EmilienM | kfox1111: you haven't read the email, we're proposing a standalone tool also | 20:21 |
| kfox1111 | ok. cool. | 20:21 |
| EmilienM | anyway... please read this email and give feedback | 20:21 |
| inc0 | and to do this with docker exec you need running docker, so you need either stub config or just one docker run with this command | 20:21 |
| kfox1111 | k. will do. | 20:21 |
| EmilienM | thanks | 20:21 |
| kfox1111 | just from what we have discussed though, sounds like we're all on the same page. | 20:21 |
| inc0 | generating config for us is kinda chicken egg problem | 20:21 |
| kfox1111 | yeah. | 20:22 |
| kfox1111 | would be nice if there was a difinitive egg delivered. | 20:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Marcus Williams proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add OpenDaylight role https://review.openstack.org/416367 | 20:22 |
| kfox1111 | rather then tryign to introspect it every time. | 20:22 |
| inc0 | yeah | 20:22 |
| inc0 | and introspect -> render defaults -> overlay overrides -> put into container | 20:23 |
| kfox1111 | which was kind of what I thought the effort was about. | 20:23 |
| inc0 | is harder than maintaining minimal template and override mechanism | 20:23 |
| kfox1111 | introspect -> distributable default file tthats language agnostic -> converted to distro defauts (configmap) -> overlay overrides -> put into container | 20:23 |
| kfox1111 | or something like that. | 20:24 |
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| inc0 | so...what is the problem we're solving again? not wanting to support templates? | 20:28 |
| EmilienM | lol | 20:28 |
| inc0 | I think we're fine with supporting templates if we create validation | 20:28 |
| kfox1111 | pulling the defaults from the various projects? | 20:28 |
| EmilienM | dude we had a session in Boston | 20:28 |
| EmilienM | we talked about the problem hundred of times | 20:29 |
| inc0 | yeah, I know, but we started with centralized etcd | 20:29 |
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| EmilienM | and folks (here) rejected it | 20:29 |
| inc0 | then moved through defaults, machine readoable (non bastartized ini) confs to generation of yamls | 20:29 |
| EmilienM | yeah this thing is done | 20:30 |
| kfox1111 | yeah. conversation has shifted a few times. | 20:30 |
| kfox1111 | +1 to machine readable defaults out of the various projects. +1 to template tool to read that and spit out configs in wahtever format there are templates for. and +1 for an oslo plugin to read yaml/json. | 20:30 |
| inc0 | this scares me https://github.com/dhellmann/oslo-config-ansible/blob/master/cinder-schema.yaml | 20:31 |
| inc0 | and we have no way of getting this | 20:31 |
| kfox1111 | inc0: yeah, if thats not generated, thats kind of a problem. | 20:32 |
| EmilienM | inc0: this file is generated by oslo | 20:32 |
| inc0 | services can generate this, fine, then we need to take it as input | 20:32 |
| inc0 | generate defaults | 20:32 |
| kfox1111 | ok. cool. | 20:32 |
| EmilienM | yeah | 20:32 |
| kfox1111 | right. | 20:32 |
| inc0 | it's generated I'm sure | 20:32 |
| EmilienM | and if you like | 20:32 |
| inc0 | but again, chicken egg | 20:32 |
| EmilienM | I can even ship it in the packages in RDO | 20:32 |
| inc0 | we'd need to deploy service just to generate this | 20:32 |
| EmilienM | actually I'm going to propose a patch in RDO to ship it by defeault | 20:32 |
| inc0 | EmilienM: doesn't help us, it's in container anyway | 20:32 |
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| kfox1111 | I think those config files should be shipped via http. | 20:33 |
| kfox1111 | put them up on an openstack hosted site somewhere. | 20:33 |
| EmilienM | kfox1111: you're not helping :) | 20:33 |
| EmilienM | we change the design every 2 min | 20:33 |
| kfox1111 | then stuff like the kolla-kubernetes helm configmap builder can pull them in. | 20:33 |
| inc0 | docker run -it ubuntu-source-cinder-base oslo_prepare_yaml_config | oslo_generate_big_yaml | 20:33 |
| kfox1111 | EmilienM: oh. your talking trunk? | 20:33 |
| inc0 | that will give us just defaults | 20:34 |
| kfox1111 | how about website for stable releases, packaging for trunk? | 20:34 |
| kfox1111 | inc0: the non defauts we have to handle ourselves anyway? | 20:34 |
| inc0 | yeah, which means we don't get deprecation warning | 20:35 |
| inc0 | so not much of a value anyway | 20:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Marcus Williams proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add OpenDaylight role https://review.openstack.org/416367 | 20:35 |
| kfox1111 | no, we should consume the dfeaults. they should have the deprication warnings in the machine readable file. | 20:35 |
| inc0 | unless we do oslo_generate_yaml | put_our_overides | oslo_prepare_config | 20:36 |
| kfox1111 | yeah. but that should also complain about depricated stuff used? | 20:36 |
| kfox1111 | as it has that info. | 20:36 |
| inc0 | how about we do oslo_validate_deprecation? | 20:36 |
| kfox1111 | that works too. | 20:37 |
| inc0 | on file that is not 28k loc | 20:37 |
| kfox1111 | machines are fast. but whatever. ;) | 20:37 |
| inc0 | still, what I don't understand is why templates are bad | 20:37 |
| kfox1111 | I'm in hpc. I always have to ask peopel what their definition of "large" is. | 20:37 |
| kfox1111 | cause you get people talkign about "large amounts of data" but when probed, | 20:37 |
| kfox1111 | "hundreds of mb"... :) | 20:37 |
| inc0 | if templates are validated, follow some non-bastartized standard | 20:38 |
| kfox1111 | my cell phone flakes off data then that. ;) | 20:38 |
| kfox1111 | inc0: I think there are multiple things in play there. | 20:38 |
| EmilienM | I'm dropping off from IRC, I just wanted to let you know we (tripleo) are very actively trying to find a way to simplify and standardize configuration management, making it re-usable by installers, etc | 20:38 |
| kfox1111 | EmilienM: yeah. thanks for the help. it sounds like your doing good work. :) | 20:39 |
| inc0 | EmilienM: cool, I'm with you, just let's not overengineer it that's my worry | 20:39 |
| EmilienM | and productive feedback on this very specific topic (give me an ini file) is welcome in the email | 20:39 |
| EmilienM | inc0: I think we want to underengineer it :D | 20:39 |
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| kfox1111 | EmilienM: eyah, I'll try and reposond this weekend if possible. | 20:39 |
| EmilienM | my ultimate goal is to stop using puppet in tripleo | 20:39 |
| EmilienM | kfox1111: don't work on weekends, it can wait next week for sure | 20:39 |
| inc0 | you can use ansible;) | 20:39 |
| EmilienM | inc0: yeah, we could indeed | 20:40 |
| EmilienM | but without templates | 20:40 |
| EmilienM | BOOM on this word I'm leaving | 20:40 |
| kfox1111 | EmilienM: work days right now are rather full. its the only time I probably can respond for the next coulpe weeks. | 20:40 |
| kfox1111 | :) | 20:40 |
| EmilienM | ok good luck | 20:40 |
| kfox1111 | thanks. you too. :) | 20:40 |
| inc0 | have a great weekend EmilienM | 20:40 |
| kfox1111 | heh. I think inc0 woudl flog me if he know how often I use anisble as a glorified pdsh.... | 20:41 |
| inc0 | kfox1111: we all do | 20:41 |
| inc0 | that's what I like about it | 20:41 |
| kfox1111 | yeah. | 20:42 |
| inc0 | it is glorified pdsh which can be written in nice yaml | 20:42 |
| EmilienM | inc0: you too man | 20:42 |
| kfox1111 | yeah. but its the latter part that doesnt' tend to happen with me. | 20:42 |
| kfox1111 | ansible -i ~/ansible/inventory/static_inventory kfox-old-compute -m shell -a 'hostname' #etc | 20:42 |
| inc0 | if it works it works | 20:42 |
| kfox1111 | my bash is very good, so I don't end up looking up how to do it in proper ansible very often. | 20:43 |
| inc0 | btw look what jascott1 made https://github.com/jascott1/arboreal | 20:43 |
| inc0 | basically cd terraform/openstack | 20:43 |
| inc0 | source openrc | 20:43 |
| inc0 | terraform apply | 20:44 |
| inc0 | and ansible-playbook afterwards | 20:44 |
| inc0 | boom, functional k8s cluster | 20:44 |
| inc0 | on top of openstack | 20:44 |
| kfox1111 | interesting. | 20:44 |
| inc0 | yeah give it a try | 20:45 |
| kfox1111 | I still really want to see someone try and close the loop and get kolla-kubernetes with ironic working in a vm, adding bare metal nodes to it, deploying k8s nodes, then sliding out the vm. :) | 20:45 |
| kfox1111 | I think between ironic and coreos's bootkube stuff, it may be possible. :) | 20:46 |
| inc0 | well I'd say kolla-ansible on vm and it's totally possible today | 20:46 |
| kfox1111 | yah, but you cant slide out the kolla-ansible node. | 20:47 |
| inc0 | why not? | 20:47 |
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| kfox1111 | how do you delete it when its running the management code? | 20:47 |
| kfox1111 | (heat had this problem. what if heat-engine was on the seed) | 20:48 |
| inc0 | local_action: command shutdown | 20:48 |
| kfox1111 | then how does the vm get removed from all the other places references? | 20:48 |
| kfox1111 | or maybe that happens first... | 20:48 |
| kfox1111 | maybe its possible... | 20:49 |
| inc0 | there is no reference of ansible being used anywhere besides having vm image sittng | 20:49 |
| inc0 | and frankly? I'd like to keep vm image | 20:49 |
| kfox1111 | no, like for lb's adn such. | 20:49 |
| inc0 | why would you need lb on ansible host anyway? | 20:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Bertrand Lallau proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Disable Heat container deployment by default https://review.openstack.org/475072 | 20:49 |
| inc0 | it just runs ssh from it | 20:49 |
| kfox1111 | ironic is hosting stuff. then it has to be shoved off to a different node. | 20:49 |
| inc0 | does it tho? | 20:50 |
| kfox1111 | how do the physical nodes be manged without ironic running? | 20:50 |
| kfox1111 | I'm thinking like: | 20:50 |
| inc0 | ok, I might be missing sth | 20:50 |
| kfox1111 | 1. start up vm that has ironic/nova/neutron/etc. | 20:50 |
| kfox1111 | 2. ironic add 10 physical nodes. | 20:51 |
| kfox1111 | 3. nova start 10 vm's with cloud-init=launch k8s | 20:51 |
| kfox1111 | 4. label them such that some are controllers and some are computes. | 20:51 |
| kfox1111 | (services from k8s automatically spread out now) | 20:51 |
| kfox1111 | 5. shutoff the seed vm. its no longer needed. | 20:52 |
| kfox1111 | its the self healing k8s stuff that would make it work I think. | 20:52 |
| kfox1111 | the ironic pod would just move to another host. | 20:53 |
| kfox1111 | then you could use any of the controllers to reinstall any of the other nodes. | 20:53 |
| inc0 | so my question would be, why just not use ansible (in or out of container), deploy kolla-k8s | 20:53 |
| inc0 | deploy 10 nodes with ironic | 20:53 |
| inc0 | run small ansible to install kubelet on them, join to cluster | 20:54 |
| inc0 | aaand...that's it | 20:54 |
| inc0 | wait for it to rebalance | 20:54 |
| inc0 | no vms involved | 20:54 |
| kfox1111 | how do you get the 10 nodes deployed in the first place? | 20:54 |
| kfox1111 | I guess your saying, use ansible instead of a vm. | 20:55 |
| inc0 | you need 1 node deployed with k8s right? | 20:55 |
| kfox1111 | but then you have to install all the ansible/k8s stuff somewhere. | 20:55 |
| kfox1111 | the vm buys you the initial isolation. | 20:55 |
| inc0 | well, you need to install ansible | 20:55 |
| kfox1111 | a vm image is very easy to "here, download/run this" | 20:55 |
| kfox1111 | plug it into your network ,and deploy. | 20:55 |
| inc0 | well, if you have hypervisor running:) | 20:55 |
| kfox1111 | think if it like a traditional os. | 20:55 |
| kfox1111 | "here. download this iso, start it up" | 20:55 |
| inc0 | I think pip install ansible is still easier than apt install libvirt, download image, run it manually and network it properly | 20:56 |
| kfox1111 | kvm/vmware/whatever else works really well for a single vm directly attached to your network port. :) | 20:56 |
| inc0 | I know, but pip install ansible is still easier;) | 20:56 |
| kfox1111 | not when it involved debugging k8s deployment. | 20:56 |
| kfox1111 | I think its way easier to debug getting that one vm up then it is to get a working k8s deployment figured out? | 20:57 |
| kfox1111 | I could be wrong. | 20:57 |
| inc0 | if you have prepared plays | 20:57 |
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| kfox1111 | its the debugging of how to plumb that k8s up to the network port. | 20:57 |
| inc0 | because stuff that needs changing needs changing anyway | 20:57 |
| inc0 | like addresses and such | 20:57 |
| kfox1111 | Idon't think its simpler then getting a vm pluggied in to a bridge. | 20:58 |
| inc0 | just specify in var "this is my iface, use it" | 20:58 |
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| * kfox1111 shrugs. always found it harder to stand up a cluster that way then running a vm image. | 20:58 | |
| kfox1111 | but thats just my experience. your milage may varry. :) | 20:59 |
| inc0 | well, you still need to stand up *cluster* afterwards | 20:59 |
| inc0 | we're talking about initial aio | 20:59 |
| inc0 | what I'm saying is, when ansible is done it leaves no trace | 20:59 |
| inc0 | no need to clean after it, no processes running | 20:59 |
| kfox1111 | I havent' seen "install stuff on host" not leave a trace. | 21:00 |
| inc0 | but you want to install it on host anyway | 21:00 |
| kfox1111 | not on the seed host. | 21:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Marcus Williams proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add OpenDaylight role https://review.openstack.org/416367 | 21:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Marcus Williams proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add OpenDaylight role https://review.openstack.org/416367 | 21:13 |
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| inc0 | what's best way to run registry on k8s for k8s to use? | 21:38 |
| inc0 | ideally secure one | 21:38 |
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| kfox1111 | many options. not sure there is a best one... | 21:52 |
| kfox1111 | a deployment with docker-registry is one way. | 21:53 |
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| inc0 | kfox1111: yeah but always need to figure out insecure registry in docker deamon | 22:54 |
| inc0 | god I hate that thing | 22:54 |
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| kfox1111 | one work around is to do a daemonset with net=host and bind it to localhost. | 23:15 |
| kfox1111 | rumer is that you can pull from localhost insecurely without a flag. | 23:15 |
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