Friday, 2017-06-23

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SamYaplejascott1: awesome cool00:01
SamYaplejascott1: also o/00:02
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openstackgerritjiangpch proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: The notify "Restart keystone containers" is not correct  https://review.openstack.org/47629800:52
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inc0SamYaple: yeah, I was off on piano lessons:)01:23
inc0I have ceph problem indeed01:23
inc0fresh install, fresh ubuntu 16.04, ceph -s times out01:23
inc0this is all I get from mon logs http://paste.openstack.org/show/613447/01:24
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duonghqmorning guys02:28
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zhubingbinghi guys02:38
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-openstackstatus- NOTICE: unknown issue with the git farm, everything broken - we're investigating06:03
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openstackgerritzhongshengping proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: The notify "Restart tacker containers" is not correct  https://review.openstack.org/47680707:25
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reidracmorning! https://review.openstack.org/#/c/475820/ only needs +W, anyone? :)07:38
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-openstackstatus- NOTICE: ok git.openstack.org is working again, you can recheck failed jobs08:02
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itoperatorguyhi, dumb question. After successful(ish) deployment I should be able to login/see the horizon at the kolla_internal_vip_address tcp port 80 so for example: http://10.20.20.254  without any /dashboard or /horizon ?11:21
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blallau@itoperatorguy yes11:46
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openstackgerritMartin Mágr proposed openstack/kolla master: Add health check to sensu-client container  https://review.openstack.org/47029812:49
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openstackgerritEric Peterson proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: Add missing setting for novncproxy_base_url  https://review.openstack.org/47593313:47
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blallauHi all, is there somebody using Kolla-ansible on Ubuntu with virt_type=kvm ?13:54
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blallauI success to boot vm using virt_type=qemu ,but it fails with hardware acceleration (kvm)13:57
openstackgerritEduardo Gonzalez proposed openstack/kolla master: Implement blazar Docker images  https://review.openstack.org/45474513:57
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sdakeblallau you dont set virt_type=kvm, you just leave the virt type unset14:05
sdakeblallau the defautl is kvm14:05
sdakeblallau beyond that, I am not sure what could be wrong with your env14:05
sdakeblallau to be more precise, dont provide any overrides for libvirt14:06
sdakemorning peeps14:06
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inc0good morning14:09
inc0blallau: I am and it works14:10
blallauhave you take alook at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/476478/14:10
blallauqemu-kvm is not installed on Ubuntu/Debian14:10
inc0interesting, I thought it's dependency14:11
inc0let me check really quick14:11
sdakeqemu-kvm is not really needed I believe14:11
sdakebut could be wrong14:11
sdakei am not a ubuntu jockey14:11
blallauwhen I enter in nova_libvirt container qemu-kvm package is not installed14:11
blallaumaybe it's not needed...14:12
inc0hmm I forgot that my prod runs centos (not my choice)14:14
blallau@inc0 are you ever test Ubuntu?14:16
inc0I always test ubuntu14:16
blallauok14:16
inc0I just have hardware semi-prod14:16
blallauI use "nested" kvm, maybe it's the problem , are you using nested KVM?14:17
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inc0well I dont have ubuntu on hardware14:17
blallauIs there somebody using kolla-ansible with nested kvm on antoher distro (centos, oracle,...) ?14:20
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jmccarthyblallau: I've used nested-kvm on oraclelinux, no probs, what's the question ? Maybe check it's enabled ok on the host: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_enable_nested_virtualization_in_KVM14:32
openstackgerritFlavio Percoco proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Allow for running standalone Ironic w/o keystone  https://review.openstack.org/47692714:32
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blallau@jmccarthy I have check /sys/module/kvm_intel/parameters/nested it's OK14:33
blallauthe error I get is always "Unable to open logfile /var/lib/nova/instances/e5f30aef-c34e-43c8-8872-c652b7835bde/console.log: Permission denied"14:34
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jmccarthyHmm doesn't sound familiar ? with virt_type= qemu it works and kvm gives that error ?14:39
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inc0yeah, kvm-ok doesn't seem to be available in vm14:41
inc0(centos, ocata)14:41
openstackgerritAndy Smith proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add qdrouterd role for messaging infrastructure component  https://review.openstack.org/46946214:42
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jamesbensonmorning all14:46
jmccarthy@blallau: Can you confirm in one of the compute vms if that functionality is actually exposed to it ? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_enable_nested_virtualization_in_K14:46
jmccarthyVM lol broken link, see above14:47
jamesbensoninc0: my deploy failed on ceph, same issue with 4.0.0 as well14:47
jamesbensonlast night14:47
inc0centos too14:47
inc0just tried14:47
inc0damn14:47
blallauit works with virt_type=qemu14:47
blallaunot with virt_type=kvm14:47
blallaukvm-ok is working in my nova_libvirt container14:48
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jmccarthyOk, but you have created compute VMs yourself on the host is that right ? Using virt-install maybe ?14:48
inc0if you add qemu-kvm it's ok?14:48
blallauit's not working even with qemu-kvm14:49
blallauIK have create a VM with libvirt on the host14:49
jmccarthyOk, and what sort of --cpu setting ? The flag being set on the host is not enough, if that is not exposed to the guest14:50
blallaupassthought feature is activated14:50
jamesbensoninc0: Did you ever chat with SamYaple about the ceph stuff?14:51
inc0didn't get a chance yesterday14:51
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jamesbensonno worries, Did I understand someone else is having issues too?14:52
blallau@jmccarthy I'll test with virt-host-validate  utility14:52
blallauI have to go... maybe I will reconnect this evening, best regards14:52
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inc0seems like centos has 10.2.7 too14:55
inc0let's try installing older version of ceph14:55
inc0btw ubuntu doens't have any other version than 10.2.7 available -.-14:55
jamesbensonugh, I hope that isn't the problem...14:58
inc0I'm not sure what is a problem14:58
inc0we deploy multinode ceph every day in gates14:58
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jamesbensonyeah, I don't get it.  In gates, what version does it specify?  is it the same?  And can anyone else verify with that version?15:08
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jamesbensoninc0: I see version 10.1.2-0ubuntu1 also available15:12
jamesbensonon xenial/main15:13
jamesbensonxenial-updates/main shows 10.2.715:13
inc0jamesbenson: in gates it's very same container as kolla_dockerhub_pusher uses15:13
inc0not even same version-same container15:14
inc0let me try to deploy centos base OS15:14
jamesbensonk15:14
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kfox1111morning.15:21
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jamesbensonmorning kfox111115:27
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jamesbensoninc0: in the kolla 4.0.0 the docker hub images have version 10.2.515:52
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jamesbensonceph version 10.2.515:53
inc0but fails too right?15:53
inc0centos host works, ubuntu host fails for both ubuntu and centos containers15:53
inc0sooo....ubuntu fails to ntp?15:53
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jamesbensonmaybe?15:56
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inc0no idea15:57
inc0well15:57
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jamesbensonI just did a ntp time sync to time.nist.gov.... I'll do a fresh deploy16:04
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inc0it's a wild guess16:05
inc0ntp can mess up ceph clustering16:05
inc0and it's something specific to host16:05
jamesbensonyeah, and it has a tight margin of error16:05
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jamesbensonlooks like it wasn't synched well.. deploying now. I'll let you know16:11
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jamesbensonlooks like that was it16:17
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jamesbensonMind if I put in a bug in the prechecks?16:18
inc0that'd be great, also boostrap servers can sync ntp16:18
inc0so did you succeed?16:18
kfox1111inc0: yeah, you need to make sure time is relatively in sync for ceph. ntp's the best route.16:18
jamesbensonit got past ceph, ....16:18
inc0kfox1111: we installed ntp, issue was I guess ubuntu also need manual sync16:19
kfox1111yeah. sounds about right.16:19
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jamesbensonDo you want it in the precheck or bootstrap?  heck depending on the drift, it might even be worth while right before the deploy16:19
inc0jamesbenson: how about both?16:19
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jamesbensonsounds good16:19
jamesbensonman, this took ::way:: too long to fix/figure out.16:19
inc0deploy is a no-no because we have rule that deploy doesn't touch host16:19
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inc0only deploys dockers16:20
kbaegisHi all. Just checking on something: if I want to use ovs on the hosts (outside of the neutron ovs container), can I simply disable openvswitch:children in the inventroy?16:20
jamesbensonfeel stupid....16:20
jamesbensonokay, I'll put it in the prechecks and bootstrap16:20
inc0thanks man16:20
kfox1111ceph-deploy works really well.16:20
jamesbensondefinitely my pleasure16:20
inc0also would you mind adding bug for it and saying it'll close bug?16:20
kfox1111wouldn't try and reimplement it. its not containerized but if thats the one thing your not containerizing, its usually fine.16:20
inc0then we can backport it to ocata16:20
inc0kfox1111: ceph-ansible also uses containers16:21
kfox1111oh, don't get me wrong. I think containerinzing ceph long term is probably a good thing.16:21
inc0issue was, by the time we wrote ceph role, neither ceph-ansible wasn't very good16:21
kfox1111I just don't think that its probably a good idea for us to do it rather then use supported ceph tools.16:21
inc0ceph-ansible is supported and I agree16:22
kfox1111rook's also insteresting if they can get it off the ground.16:22
kbaegisinc0: I can rely on host-deployed ovs by disabling openvswitch:children in inventory, correct?16:22
kbaegisi.e. commenting out network, compute, etc16:22
inc0kbaegis: in pike we included enable_openvswitch: false16:22
kbaegisinc0: is stable/pike available?16:22
inc0no16:22
kfox1111inc0: how good is ceph-ansible at this point? is it worth deprecating ceph server bits in kolla over?16:22
inc0kfox1111: not sure, possibly16:22
kbaegissure. Will the inventory approach work?16:22
inc0we'd need rock solid migration procedure tho16:23
kbaegisI use ovs for my lab segmentation16:23
inc0kbaegis: I think so16:23
kbaegisinc0: thanks16:23
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inc0although you need to do more afair16:24
inc0hold on16:24
inc0not sure16:25
inc0well, try modifying inventory16:25
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inc0kfox1111: I'd be ok with deprecating ceph, but if someone already deployed ceph with kolla, I don't want to screw these people over during upgrade16:26
inc0soo we would need good guide on how to migrate kolla-ceph to ceph-ansible16:26
kfox1111yeah. there should be a path to migrate.16:26
inc0yeah I think so16:26
inc0ceph is quite good with containers16:27
inc0but that's small project on it's own16:27
* kfox1111 nods16:27
inc0and frankly, our ceph, in it's simplistic scenario, works quite well16:27
inc0and makes deployment super easy16:28
jamesbensoninc0 I just submitted the bug under kolla, not ansible.  Can you squash it, 1700121.  Sorry about that...16:28
inc0anyway, sounds like good queens goal16:28
inc0tnanks, I'll sort it out16:28
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inc0jamesbenson: when you make patchset, add Closes-Bug: #1700121 to commit msg16:29
openstackbug 1700121 in kolla "time sync isn't verified prior to deploy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1700121 - Assigned to James (james-o-benson)16:29
jamesbensonroger16:30
inc0ok I sorted this out16:31
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inc0uff I'm glad it's just ntp sync16:31
inc0I was in little panic mode16:31
inc0brb gonna celebrate this with nutrition16:32
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kfox1111ceph bluestore's looking really nice. :)16:38
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inc0kfox1111: btw have you seen? Sony will release dlc for horizon zero dawn16:53
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inc0which is awesome16:54
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kolla-slack2<kfox1111> Hadn't. Sweet. Thanks for the heads up. :)16:54
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inc0few cool thinks coming16:55
inc0also waiting for Detroit: become human16:55
inc0I love this topic - android/human16:55
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inc0kfox1111: where do you specify periodic job frequency?16:59
kolla-slack2<kfox1111> In what?17:00
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kolla-slack2<kfox1111> K8s cronjobs?17:00
inc0yes17:00
kolla-slack2<kfox1111> It's a different kind.17:00
inc0ahh17:00
inc0sorry, no, infra17:00
inc0openstack infra jobs periodic17:00
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SamYapleinc0: yea i was on the fence about including kolla ceph stuff orignally17:06
SamYapleand there was several times i was going to break it out but didnt17:06
SamYaplethat said, ceph-ansible using the ceph-docker images is pretty awful17:07
SamYapleceph-ansible without containers is great though17:07
inc0ah so they didn't improve?17:07
SamYaplenot as of yet17:07
inc0well, maybe good thing to talk about with ceph guys17:07
inc0since tripleo is going containers17:07
inc0EmilienM ^17:08
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Pavowhen is TripleO going containers?17:08
inc0they're working on it17:08
inc0not sure what's status of it17:08
Pavonice17:08
inc0they're using Kolla containers17:09
inc0and deploy them with tripleo-esque puppet (I think)17:09
Pavowow, kind of funny because I know a few red hat guys that was bashing kolla while back17:10
Pavothats good news though17:10
inc0I was bashing docker at some point (still am but in different manner tnow)17:10
Pavolol17:11
Pavotrue17:11
inc0criticism is good, and if you'll convert critic, that makes even stronger believer;)17:11
Pavoinc0 did you guys ever fix the selinux issue while back?17:14
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inc0Pavo: negative:( I can't find anyone willing to create selinux profiles17:15
Pavoah17:15
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serlex(17:26:49) inc0: soo we would need good guide on how to migrate kolla-ceph to ceph-ansible17:36
serlexthat would be great17:36
inc0yeah, there are lots of caveats to that, I'd be happy to drop ceph support really as long as 1. upgrades are seamless from ceph-kolla to ceph-ansible17:36
inc02. guide provided17:37
inc03. ceph-ansible (or any other contenerized ceph deploy) is reasonable17:37
inc0and 4. ceph-ansible is easy enough to deploy itself and bind it with kolla-ansible17:37
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serlexunderstood17:41
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openstackgerritMichal Jastrzebski (inc0) proposed openstack/kolla master: Dockerfile publishing pipeline  https://review.openstack.org/47546917:51
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sdakepavo out of curiosity were any of their bashing complaints somehting kolla can fix or just general bitching?18:05
sdakekfox1111 fwiw wwhen we did the ceph in containers thing- there was *no* ceph installer...18:10
inc0sdake: there was, just not rly good in container18:11
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inc0ceph-deploy was there, non contenerized, pretty good18:11
kfox1111sdake: yeah. not nocking what kolla did.18:12
kfox1111just wondering now if times have changed enough thats something we shouldn't focus on anymore.18:12
sdakeif it upgrades18:13
sdakeand can be configured properly18:13
sdake++18:13
sdakeits much like our ini merging18:13
sdakewhich can be resolved now with somethign like: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/472349/18:14
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inc0sdake: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/474770/18:26
inc0this takes our ansible generation, globals.yml configmap and passwords.yml configmap and adds correct configmaps all around18:27
inc0also will work well for ansible orchestration18:27
sdakeinc0 thanks for pointing that out bro - reviewing now18:28
inc0it's rough, I already see lots of improvements18:29
inc0but idea is there18:29
inc0and I tested it locally, it works well18:29
inc0if we can distribute this container image, deploying kolla-k8s will potentially be super eays18:29
inc0easy18:29
sdakei ws speaking with sambetts|afk this morning and he suggested we create a initjob to load the secrets into the configmaps18:29
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sdakealthough that now seems like a half step18:30
inc0how about puting ansible in container (we want it anyway) and mount globals+passwords -> genconfig -> kubectl create configmap --from-file18:30
inc0that's idea I'm working with now18:31
inc0also we can use same thing to build helm repo18:31
inc0and run it in pod18:31
SamYapleinc0: just so you are aware, ceph-ansible, even with the docker containers, touches the host. alot. and youll have to relabel the gpt partitions18:31
inc0SamYaple: yeah, I don't want to presume to give our rules to ceph community18:32
inc0if they want to touch host, fine by me18:32
inc0as for relabeling partition, that goes to upgrade18:32
inc0it's not going to be easy18:33
inc0all I'm saying, if we want to put our effort to it, it will pay off at some point18:33
SamYapleyup. moving away from kolla maintained outside-of-openstack-stuff is the way to go18:33
inc0and I'd be ok with that, it'd be good change18:33
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inc0question is if we find manpower to do it18:34
inc0I know it's the way to go, but seamless upgrade is more important, so unless we can provide that, ceph stays18:34
inc0same goes to rabbitmq/mariadb18:34
sdakeinc0 agreed18:34
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sdakeinc0 looking at sambett's review I linked above18:35
inc0additional benefit of having ceph (albeit smaller benefit) is that now you have single set of config for deploy18:35
sdakeinc0 the general idea I think he is working with is as follows18:35
sdakethere is one helm chart (call it ironic-conductor-general-config)18:36
sdakethat always gets loaded18:36
sdakethat is the default18:36
sdakethere is a second helm chart (call it ironic-conductor-override-config)18:36
sdakethat always gets loaded18:36
sdakethis second one contains variables18:36
sdakeand may be modified by the end user18:36
inc0so if we can create second, we might as well create first18:37
inc0what's missing is stuff that's variable but not supplied by user18:37
inc0for example database password18:37
sdakethe idea is to serpate "bare necesccity config" from "overrides"18:37
inc0cross-deployment generated variables18:37
inc0so ansible genconfig is assumed to be bare minimal18:37
inc0and it's still significant18:37
sdakeand use nova --configfile defaults.ini --configfile overrides.ini18:37
inc0there is little not-necessary stuff there18:37
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inc0also things like overriden rabbitmq port18:38
sdakeyes you are correct nearly everything in the ansible config is required18:38
inc0with genconfig you cange it in single place18:38
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sdakehere is my take18:38
inc0with hardcoded overrides you need to manually redefine it in every single configmap18:38
sdakewe need to take a new look at config gen18:39
sdakebut out of all the priorities18:39
sdakethis is the last one I think we have18:39
sdakelet me enumerate the ones I've noted :)18:39
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sdake1. microchart deploy/upgrade/destroy18:41
sdake2. tls endpoint termination18:41
sdake3. selinux integration18:41
sdake4. sorting out the pv/pvc mess18:41
sdake5. removal of service_resources.yml18:41
sdake6. log output18:41
sdake7. complete rework of the configuration strategy18:41
sdakei think 1-6 need to happen prior to 1.0.018:41
sdakeI think 7 can wait post 1.0.018:41
inc0so ad selinux18:42
inc0if we can create selinux profiles for k8s we can do it for ansible too18:42
inc0or with a little added work use it in ansible too18:42
sdakeyou mean visa versa?18:42
inc0I mean selinux profiles won't be that different one from another18:42
sdakeour ansible implementation already works great with selinux18:42
inc0so same work will give us both18:43
inc0yes...if you disable it..18:43
sdakeone of the main reasons kolla-kubernetes doesn't work with selinux hsa to do with bindmounting all over the place18:43
sdakeinc0 selinux works great in master gate18:44
sdakeinc0 selinux does not need to be disabled18:44
sdake(for kolla-ansible)18:44
sdakeanyway the point of the above list is the config approach is a big complex unknown that i think we can punt on to post 1.0.018:45
inc0I would disagree18:45
sdakeas we have a working config approach today that will be easily portable to 2.0.018:45
inc01.0 will also need appearences18:45
inc0it has to be easy18:45
inc0and doing genconfig and running magic scripts is not easy18:46
sdakethe entire deploy process can be placed in an ansible playbook and run in a container form a k8s manifesst ina helm chart18:47
inc0if kolla-k8s will be harder to install than kolla-ansible, it's not going to attract too many users18:47
inc0yeah18:47
sdakeits as simple as helm instal XYZ18:47
inc0that works18:47
inc0still needs to be done18:47
inc0also there is one more thing we *need*18:47
inc0multinode rabbit and mariadb18:47
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inc0damn new Samael song is awesome19:09
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Pavosdake it was more like kolla wasn't secure because of selinux had to be disabled kind of bashing19:17
sdakepavo thats odd - selinux is enabled in the ate19:17
Pavobut we all know selinux is so........... secure19:18
sdakepavo well - now your armed with corrected information :)19:18
Pavosdake how did you get around the qemu issue I had a while back with selinux being enabled?19:18
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sdakewhich qemu issue are you peaking of19:19
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sdakesorry dude- i've been pretty much mia 2 weeks = 2 falls + hornet stinging me 3 times = can't use hands19:19
Pavothe qemu issue where it couldn't mount volumes from host for instances, it was awhile back ago19:19
Pavoouch19:19
Pavosorry to hear that19:19
sdakenot sure - the gate does that exact test19:20
PavoI haven't even used Openstack in a long time, been part of a different project so I don't recall myself completely the issue it was19:20
sdakekolla has had selinux suppor tfor 12-18 months atlaest19:20
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Pavoinc0 just said that there was no one willing to write the selinux policies so how did you get around that?19:21
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inc0yeah, I remember we talked about that in Barcelona19:22
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inc0(I'm ubuntu guy so I'm not 100% sure how our selinux works)19:22
sdakedocker has policies built in19:25
sdakeits called the "docker-selinux" package19:25
sdakeit does the correct magic19:25
Pavooh ok maybe it was a Docker issue atm them19:25
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PavoHave you guys had any thoughts on setting up something like LetsEncrypt docker to generate verfied SSL certs when TLS is enabled?20:06
jamesbensoninc0: quick question... I'm trying to build my own images for 4.0.2.  but the build is failing with things like: Failed with status: matched20:08
inc0jamesbenson: error is somewhere else20:09
inc0check which failed20:09
inc0matched means one of deps failed20:09
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jamesbensonah, I think I had a registry already running and they were fighting....20:16
inc0possibly20:17
inc0not sure tho20:17
jamesbensonseems to be building now20:18
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openstackgerritBertrand Lallau proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Remove Ubuntu Trusty 14.04 related code  https://review.openstack.org/47477821:06
openstackgerritBertrand Lallau proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Fix Skydive analyser 'graph' config section  https://review.openstack.org/47381821:06
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kfox1111vms/containers are so much less painful then bare metal. :/21:22
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inc0heh, problem is, they need bare metal to run;)21:24
inc0go serverless!21:24
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sdakeinc0 such an intuitive error :)21:55
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openstackgerritMichal Jastrzebski (inc0) proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: WIP Dockerfile to run ansible orchiestration  https://review.openstack.org/47477022:55
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openstackgerritMichal Jastrzebski (inc0) proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: WIP Dockerfile to run ansible orchiestration  https://review.openstack.org/47477022:57
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