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| duonghq | morning guys | 00:36 |
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| rstarmer | 4.0.X question for anyone that may know. I tried to "update" via reconfigure to https endpoints for a system initially deployed via http, and only a subset of the system updated correctly. I'm assuming this isn't a common scenario, but is that expected to work? | 01:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/kolla master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/494822 | 04:42 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/494823 | 04:42 |
| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/485905 | 04:42 |
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| openstackgerrit | Duong Ha-Quang proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Apply neutron database migration https://review.openstack.org/407922 | 08:13 |
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| hrw | morning | 08:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Matthieu Simonin proposed openstack/kolla master: Add missing pyngus and python-qpid-proton for AMQP https://review.openstack.org/494519 | 08:47 |
| egonzalez | hrw, sup | 08:50 |
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| hrw | we closed last non-kolla based release so I am back in business | 09:11 |
| hrw | checking how kolla looks nowadays. with docker in tmpfs ;D | 09:12 |
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| hrw | ODL :( | 09:22 |
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| hrw | anyway it is for jessie so needs to be removed | 09:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Marcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/kolla master: opendaylight: remove Debian/jessie repository https://review.openstack.org/495140 | 09:38 |
| hrw | ssh-rsa AAAAB3NzaC1yc2EAAAADAQABAAABAQC7I06iUzIBKhWpPlV7AqTgTsUSvH5mELoyarGQ9DE8kmZ4Uh/ZSkozBciyhCnZBIHoS0pO69OtQ8zSmXaC2YpPXcpQaJoB4LFv9wv+xflwM84PoiXdCrIomqyvFU3TCnGy4WzjPucpTzdvqoo83n62OY+LWxQ5x/5sl9FLfY9RxxmV1i3igDfX6nCresPd0RK+JV/6FX6k5kggGZDTeqvhwkN+RTubAXWwhUxLqgOIllvZjQ8F81epYZ1U5ufuf4WuK+F5fxNwAuRcO4iU/IWLwc8mDczY5DogTtje0IJsusGoF9IcXEYfIUcWNp82ywFunV0nj30e6Wt5i+7PL3xB linaro@cb-r1-m1-c1n1 | 09:38 |
| hrw | ops. | 09:39 |
| hrw | wrong window ;( | 09:39 |
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| serlex | your secret is safe with us :) | 09:39 |
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| hrw | serlex: good that it is public part ;D | 09:40 |
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| serlex | :) | 09:42 |
| hrw | I probably asked that earlier. Is there a way to cache all downloads done by kolla during image building other than forcing all *:80 *:443 transfers to go though some w3cache? | 09:45 |
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| hrw | setting http_proxy inside of image is not an option as people may use them in their infra | 09:48 |
| hrw | egonzalez: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/495140/ - can you help it to pass? | 09:49 |
| egonzalez | hrw, there is a replacement for odl jessie? | 09:50 |
| hrw | egonzalez: nope. there is not | 09:50 |
| egonzalez | hrw, then need to make odl image build fail | 09:50 |
| hrw | egonzalez: image should fail due to lack of package. running build now | 09:52 |
| egonzalez | hrw, I mean a controlled failure https://github.com/openstack/kolla/blob/master/docker/dragonflow/dragonflow-base/Dockerfile.j2#L12 | 09:53 |
| hrw | right. | 09:53 |
| hrw | did that change, will send for review after test | 09:56 |
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| hrw | btw - does someone knows guy who did that OBS build of opendaylight? | 09:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Heetae Ahn proposed openstack/kolla master: Add RHEL subscription registration https://review.openstack.org/495148 | 10:00 |
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| hrw | mailed repo guy with request for stretch build | 10:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Heetae Ahn proposed openstack/kolla master: Add repository for RHEL 7 Servers https://review.openstack.org/495150 | 10:08 |
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| hrw | ok. build with all images for debian/source/aarch64 started | 10:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | Heetae Ahn proposed openstack/kolla master: Fix the order of the RHEL 7 server optional repository https://review.openstack.org/495154 | 10:20 |
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| seanmurphy | hi - i have a q about kollla-ansible - hope i’m in the right place :-) | 10:35 |
| seanmurphy | we’ve done a kolla deployment and now i’ve been asked to add another service to the deployment | 10:35 |
| seanmurphy | if i do a kolla deploy with a modified globals, could this have a significant negative impact on my current operational (lite!) system? | 10:36 |
| seanmurphy | is there is a significant risk of data loss? | 10:36 |
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| egonzalez | seanmurphy, it depends on what service is added | 10:38 |
| egonzalez | seanmurphy, compute nodes shouldnt cause any issue | 10:38 |
| egonzalez | seanmurphy, service using haproxy will cause restart of haproxy | 10:39 |
| seanmurphy | @egonzalez - thanks for the tip | 10:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Marcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/kolla master: opendaylight: disable building for Debian https://review.openstack.org/495140 | 10:39 |
| seanmurphy | i need to install ceilometer | 10:39 |
| egonzalez | seanmurphy, ceilometer may cause more restarts, as cinder/neutron/nova will apply some ceilometer configs | 10:40 |
| seanmurphy | it’s a ha/ssl config on ocata | 10:40 |
| seanmurphy | ok | 10:40 |
| seanmurphy | i can live with service restarts | 10:40 |
| seanmurphy | but my q is whether any of the db info should be affected - i guess not | 10:41 |
| seanmurphy | and i had a more fundamental q abt the design of kolla - i was not clear on whether deploy is just for a clean system or whether deploy is intended for modificiations to services running on an existing system | 10:42 |
| seanmurphy | it seems the latter | 10:43 |
| egonzalez | seanmurphy, originally there was 2 actions, deploy and reconfigure | 10:50 |
| egonzalez | now reconfigure is being worked to be the same as deploy | 10:50 |
| egonzalez | most services already do that, cannot recall if there is any who doesnt | 10:51 |
| egonzalez | idempotency ftw | 10:51 |
| pbourke | > now reconfigure is being worked to be the same as deploy | 10:52 |
| pbourke | is there a spec for this? | 10:52 |
| pbourke | wasnt aware | 10:52 |
| seanmurphy | @egonzalez - excellent - thanks for the clarification | 10:52 |
| seanmurphy | we have been using reconfigure to push out changes to .conf files | 10:53 |
| seanmurphy | that is still recommended right (in ocara)? | 10:53 |
| egonzalez | pbourke, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla-ansible/+spec/better-reconfigure | 10:53 |
| pbourke | egonzalez: oh that one | 10:54 |
| pbourke | ok I know what you mean now | 10:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Bertrand Lallau proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Fix VMware VPN, LBAAS and neutron-server config https://review.openstack.org/495171 | 11:09 |
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| rwellum | egonzalez: have you build your own images from source, and if so can I ask you a couple of basic questions? | 11:11 |
| egonzalez | rwellum, i download registry from https://tarballs.openstack.org/kolla/images/ | 11:12 |
| egonzalez | but sometimes i build my owns for fixes | 11:12 |
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| rwellum | I'm sort of stuck on the latter. The guide mentions updating ./kolla/etc/kolla/kolla-build.conf to add pointer to the source code. This file can be found in the kolla repo, but modifying it does not seem to work for me when I run kolla-build -t source . kolla has to be pip installed - so does that mean that everytime I make changes to that file, I need to re-install kolla? | 11:15 |
| rwellum | I've added debugs to /kolla/image/build.py - but running kolla-build - I don't see anything being hit. | 11:16 |
| egonzalez | rwellum, nope, the file is read when using kolla-build | 11:16 |
| egonzalez | btw, update /etc/kolla/kolla-build.conf rather ./kolla/etc/kolla/kolla-build.conf | 11:17 |
| rwellum | Ok that was my next qn, that file doesn't exists - so copy it over and modify? | 11:19 |
| egonzalez | rwellum, yep, or tox -e genconfig | 11:19 |
| rwellum | I did that... Odd. | 11:19 |
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| rwellum | egonzalez: so verified that tox command - just wiped the local copy in kolla | 11:22 |
| rwellum | But I ran it from ./kolla - | 11:23 |
| egonzalez | rwellum, right my mistake https://github.com/openstack/kolla/blob/master/doc/image-building.rst#generating-kolla-buildconf | 11:23 |
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| rwellum | Right so according to the guide either works. | 11:25 |
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| rwellum | egonzalez - added this to kolla-build.conf https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/qelev9sv/ | 11:28 |
| rwellum | Then ran: sudo kolla-build -t source --logs-dir horizon-log --debug --nocache horizon | 11:28 |
| rwellum | I've added debugs to: kolla/image/build.py - I don't see any of them hit when I run the above command. I recall others using a local command rather than the installed kolla-build? | 11:32 |
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| rwellum | I guess that local command is ./tools/build.py | 12:03 |
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| hrw | rwellum: --config-dir --config-file? | 12:09 |
| rwellum | hrw: that seems to help, and gets me the same as I am now getting with using tools/build.py: | 12:13 |
| rwellum | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/rnbpixCs/ | 12:13 |
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| ar01 | hi, need to add additional combined storage (ceph) and compute node, kolla-ansible deploy -i after updating inventory file the correct way? | 12:33 |
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| rwellum | hrw: do you know if it's still mandatory to do: "sudo pip install docker-py==1.6.*" | 12:40 |
| hrw | rwellum: forbidden even | 12:40 |
| hrw | rwellum: kolla will fail to start | 12:40 |
| rwellum | which docker-py then? | 12:41 |
| hrw | rwellum: docker | 12:41 |
| hrw | rwellum: just do 'pip install -r requirements.txt' | 12:42 |
| hrw | I use virtualenv for kolla | 12:42 |
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| rwellum | hrw when I do that I get | 12:43 |
| rwellum | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/qprQBiYT/ | 12:43 |
| rwellum | So my old notes said to install docker-py | 12:44 |
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| rwellum | And inc0 said to use 1.6.* | 12:44 |
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| hrw | rwellum: docker-py gave me "AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'APIClient' | 12:45 |
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| hrw | (venv-for-kolla) linaro@cb-r1-m1-c1n1:~/devel/17.12/kolla$ pip list |grep docker | 12:46 |
| hrw | docker (2.5.0) | 12:46 |
| hrw | docker-pycreds (0.2.1) | 12:46 |
| hrw | rwellum: check 7e2486c3d9edc94300a58f5e8203277fd5d7e01d commit | 12:47 |
| hrw | it is ~2 months old change | 12:48 |
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| rwellum | hrw: hmmm, I used your requirements.txt to uninstall and then reinstall (plus removed docker-py). Now things are building - not sure what yet.. | 12:50 |
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| hrw | rwellum: I started fresh. new venv, fresh docker. have 215 debian-source images built already. on aarch64 | 12:51 |
| rwellum | hrw: Looking at 7e2486c3d9edc94300a58f5e8203277fd5d7e01d - I reckon this intersected when I started doing this. Wow. | 12:51 |
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| rwellum | Good idea for fresh environment. | 12:52 |
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| hrw | rwellum: virtualenv makes it too easy to not use | 12:54 |
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| hrw | re | 13:27 |
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| rwellum | hrw - finally building my source code! Thanks for help. | 13:28 |
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| hrw | yw | 13:34 |
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| hrw | rwellum: so you keep copy of tarballs and use them during build? | 13:35 |
| rwellum | hwr - no - I am pointing directly to the source code in kolla-build.conf | 13:35 |
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| rwellum | Because right now I am only building a few images | 13:36 |
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| hrw | ah | 13:44 |
| hrw | I will do builds on jenkins so will take a look how to get builds proxied as much as possible | 13:44 |
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| rwellum | Good idea | 13:46 |
| rwellum | hrw - you doing your own because you need Debian? | 13:48 |
| hrw | rwellum: I need aarch64 | 13:48 |
| hrw | and Debian | 13:48 |
| rwellum | Ok. Do you push to dockerhub etc? | 13:49 |
| hrw | rwellum: I pushed set some time ago - search for haerwu | 13:49 |
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| rwellum | Ah fantastic - will take a look | 13:49 |
| hrw | https://hub.docker.com/u/haerwu/ | 13:50 |
| hrw | rwellum: we plan to make next Linaro release based on kolla built images instead of own stuff. | 13:51 |
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| rwellum | cool | 13:54 |
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| sdake | mandre i am in need of your help | 14:19 |
| sdake | ar eyou around | 14:19 |
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| mandre | hey sdake! what's up? | 14:21 |
| sdake | mandre cn you do me a favor - i want to buy something from japan - and can't read japanese - i want to understand if this vendor will ship to the US and what his terms are in terms of payment | 14:21 |
| sdake | he has a website | 14:22 |
| sdake | google translate doesn't really do teh job :( | 14:22 |
| mandre | sdake: lol | 14:22 |
| mandre | sure | 14:22 |
| sdake | http://www.amtrans.jp/SHOP/Tu3-300BT-500.html | 14:22 |
| sdake | i would prefer elrog 300bs and they are alot less painful to order and a bit cheaper - however they are super delicate and break after 200 hrz | 14:23 |
| sdake | japanese audio gear is the best in the world | 14:23 |
| sdake | (eletroncis) | 14:23 |
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| sdake | a 300b tube should last 40k hrs | 14:24 |
| sdake | i can get these in the us - hwoever -they are 3k instead of 178k yet | 14:25 |
| sdake | yen | 14:25 |
| mandre | sdake: they'll produce on order, after payment and it will take at least a month to produce | 14:25 |
| sdake | works for me | 14:25 |
| sdake | ship to us? | 14:26 |
| mandre | sdake: it doesn't say... | 14:26 |
| sdake | payment occurs how? | 14:26 |
| mandre | there is contact information on the page, I can try contacting them but they're closed already for the week end | 14:27 |
| mandre | sdake: apparently they accept credit card | 14:27 |
| sdake | mandre would super appreciate it - to see if they even ship to the US - and if they have any guarantee or warranty period | 14:28 |
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| sdake | amex, or just visa/mc? | 14:28 |
| mandre | it just says credit card :) | 14:28 |
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| sdake | japan has some special credit crds i think - although vis typically works | 14:29 |
| sdake | ya if you could write him a nice email and cc me, I'd appreciate it | 14:29 |
| mandre | yeah they should accept international credit cards without problem i think | 14:29 |
| sdake | or forward me the responses | 14:30 |
| sdake | i dont know the protocols re email in japan :) | 14:30 |
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| sdake | so information looking for | 14:30 |
| sdake | 1. ship to us | 14:30 |
| sdake | 2. any warranty period or gurantee against doa | 14:31 |
| sdake | 3. type of credit cards accepted | 14:31 |
| mandre | contact is phone only | 14:31 |
| mandre | man it's too bad, I was in Japan 2 weeks ago I could have picked it up for you | 14:32 |
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| hrw | I will rebuild OpenDayLight 6.1.0 for Debian/stretch | 14:52 |
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| sdake | mandre i think you can use google voice to make free calls to japan | 14:55 |
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| sdake | mandre bummer re japan timing - that would solve all the shipping nonsense :) | 14:56 |
| mandre | sdake: it's OK, I can call Japanese landlines for free with my cell phone plan | 14:57 |
| sdake | nice | 14:57 |
| sdake | does their website permit ordering without phone contact? | 14:57 |
| mandre | sdake: maybe :) I didn't try to create an account | 14:58 |
| sdake | roger | 14:58 |
| sdake | let me try | 14:58 |
| sdake | http://www.amtrans.jp/hpgen/HPB/shop/business.html#return | 14:59 |
| sdake | google translate does a poor job of translating that | 15:00 |
| sdake | i don't really understand the terms | 15:01 |
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| sdake | it says this: It may take a long time to order from overseas ※. | 15:04 |
| sdake | Shipping will be made only in Japan. | 15:04 |
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| sdake | that is contradictory - what does it really say in japanese | 15:04 |
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| sdake | under delivery time | 15:05 |
| sdake | mandre ^ ) | 15:05 |
| hrw | I used Excite years ago to translate JP->EN | 15:05 |
| sdake | delivery date of january - groan.. | 15:12 |
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| mandre | sdake: looks like they're using a transporter that can only deliver in Japan, I don't think they're targeting the international market | 15:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Serguei Bezverkhi proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: Do Not Merge, kolla-kubernetes gate tests https://review.openstack.org/461063 | 15:40 |
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| inc0 | good morning | 15:51 |
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| inc0 | Jeffrey4l: we'll need to release rc-1 | 15:53 |
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| rwellum | Hi inc0 - debugging an issue with sbezverk - where my openstack is very unstable (using his registry to download images from the tarball) - we think the issue is that the tarball is Master and that is no longer Pike - it is Queens. The rc-1 comment above - are you talking about pushing Pike Images to dockerhub andor tarball? | 16:09 |
| rwellum | sbezverk: correct me if I've misstated anything there... | 16:10 |
| inc0 | rwellum: the moment we split to stable/pike | 16:10 |
| inc0 | as in create branch | 16:10 |
| inc0 | it'll be available | 16:10 |
| inc0 | rwellum: master should be ok tho | 16:10 |
| inc0 | what do you see? | 16:11 |
| rwellum | Lots of Nova weirdness. But Queens is a dev branch - so I don't want to use it :) | 16:11 |
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| rwellum | inc0: when does the split to stable/pike occur? | 16:16 |
| inc0 | rc1 | 16:17 |
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| rwellum | Ok so not sure how that translates to dates etc, but if you are still talking about rc-1 then it's a ways off I guess. | 16:19 |
| inc0 | rwellum our session was accepted | 16:22 |
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| sbezverk | inc0: by some reason we see two different versions for master images | 16:27 |
| inc0 | where/ | 16:27 |
| sbezverk | a couple of weeks ago my nova showed 8.0.0 nova it shows 9.0.0 | 16:27 |
| sbezverk | when deploying master images | 16:27 |
| inc0 | right, nova already released rc-1 | 16:28 |
| inc0 | so it'll show 9 | 16:29 |
| inc0 | that being said | 16:29 |
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| inc0 | I don't believe it's too far away from nova 8 | 16:29 |
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| sbezverk | wow workshop submission was not selected :( | 16:31 |
| inc0 | :( | 16:32 |
| inc0 | we'll make our own workshop | 16:32 |
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| inc0 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e35AQK014tI | 16:33 |
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| sbezverk | inc0: right, workshop with blackjack and hookers ;) | 16:37 |
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| rwellum | Good news inc0 and bad news sbezverk :( | 16:40 |
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| sbezverk | rwellum how is your cinder session? | 16:44 |
| rwellum | Rejected | 16:44 |
| sbezverk | ??? | 16:45 |
| sbezverk | wow, I am really curious | 16:45 |
| rwellum | We submitted at least 10 in my team - 2 have made it | 16:45 |
| sbezverk | what they plan to show in terms of sessions ?!?!?! | 16:45 |
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| ulf` | Hi | 16:46 |
| ulf` | inc0: howdy :) | 16:46 |
| inc0 | hey:) I'm about to finish mail to you | 16:46 |
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| inc0 | interesting case! | 16:46 |
| rwellum | I can't believe the workshop.. | 16:46 |
| vhosakot | inc0: rwellum: did you guys check your email? is it real ? :) | 16:47 |
| inc0 | kfox1111 sbezverk rwellum what's best way to connect thing that is outside of k8s to a pod over same L2? | 16:48 |
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| sbezverk | inc0: I would say publishing service with external IP | 16:49 |
| inc0 | but that'll create NAT so no L2 connectivity | 16:49 |
| kolla-slack | <kfox1111> k8s has no real notion of l2.... best I've come up with is run the pod net=host. | 16:49 |
| inc0 | goal is to allow pod to send multicasts | 16:50 |
| sbezverk | inc0: I guess kfox1111's solution is the only one providing true l2 | 16:50 |
| inc0 | yeah net=host is something I considered too, seems like there is nothing else:S | 16:50 |
| kolla-slack | <kfox1111> sbezverk has been playing with a multi nic cni driver that might work too. | 16:50 |
| inc0 | you could handcraft overlay network to include these non-k8s things | 16:51 |
| sbezverk | kfox1111: right, but that would require srvio | 16:51 |
| sbezverk | capable interface | 16:51 |
| inc0 | sr-iov? | 16:51 |
| kolla-slack | <kfox1111> sbezverk, it doesn't support linuxbridge/ovs? | 16:51 |
| rwellum | vhosakot: looks like it :) | 16:51 |
| inc0 | right, sriov seems to be a bit of a overkill | 16:51 |
| vhosakot | sbezverk: rwellum I see the kolla-k8s workshop talk was rejected. May be we can try next time :) | 16:52 |
| kolla-slack | <kfox1111> @inc0 sriov for nics is the same thing as hardware virtualization for cpu's. | 16:52 |
| vhosakot | I'm being to getting my talks rejected since 2013 :) since the Atlanta summit or something. | 16:52 |
| rwellum | I thought there were CNI's that were close to L2 already? | 16:52 |
| kolla-slack | <kfox1111> which workshopw talk? | 16:52 |
| sbezverk | kfox1111: it will support whatever that has cni driver | 16:52 |
| inc0 | ulf`: bottom line, let's start with net=host | 16:53 |
| inc0 | http://alesnosek.com/blog/2017/02/14/accessing-kubernetes-pods-from-outside-of-the-cluster/ | 16:53 |
| sbezverk | vhosakot have you said something bad about foundation at that time ;) ?? | 16:53 |
| vhosakot | hahaha, as if thr foundation (or anyone for that matter) listens to what I say ;) | 16:54 |
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| inc0 | workshops might had issues being accepted due to venue constrains | 16:54 |
| inc0 | there are a lot of things track chairs have to consider | 16:54 |
| vhosakot | inc0: duong: the poke-a-pike got rejected too I see. I'll still work on the upgrade gates however, I'm still testing it now. | 16:55 |
| inc0 | cool thanks vhosakot, yeah that's a bummer it got rejected | 16:55 |
| inc0 | we need to make image talk count! | 16:55 |
| vhosakot | inc0: yes, so, we may need to meeting to discuss what to do, and what pending items are remaining and how I can help implement the image publighing feature. | 16:56 |
| vhosakot | rwellum: I'll test custom images too. it worked from source when I last tested few months ago. | 16:57 |
| inc0 | vhosakot: I think we'll spend some time on PTG for that | 16:57 |
| vhosakot | inc0: cool | 16:57 |
| rwellum | I got customer image working for 1st time today :) | 17:00 |
| rwellum | I don't think the doc is clear enough... | 17:00 |
| hrw | good news: Opendaylight upstream will package it for Debian too | 17:02 |
| inc0 | yay | 17:02 |
| inc0 | will it do arm?;0 | 17:03 |
| vhosakot | rwellum: cool, please save the steps and the code.. also, I can help submit patch sets to get it upstreamed if needed so we have it in the kolla repo by the summit. | 17:03 |
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| rwellum | Will do. | 17:04 |
| rwellum | inc0: did you know that the step: "sudo pip install docker-py==1.6.*" is no longer needed? Since: 7e2486c3d9edc94300a58f5e8203277fd5d7e01d | 17:05 |
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| inc0 | in kolla-k8s? | 17:06 |
| rwellum | inc0: no when using kolla-build | 17:07 |
| inc0 | ah, depends on version | 17:07 |
| inc0 | there are version tables per kolla version | 17:07 |
| rwellum | docker-ky removed | 17:07 |
| rwellum | Right | 17:07 |
| sdake | mandre thanks | 17:17 |
| hrw | inc0: opendaylight is java so arch:all ;D | 17:18 |
| hrw | inc0: but they will make sure to keep it arch:all | 17:19 |
| sdake | re kolla specific talks at summit, anyone know what did get accepted? | 17:19 |
| hrw | I know that krtaylor's talk got rejected | 17:19 |
| hrw | March/April PTG should be in Europe - would be easier to convince boss's boss to cover budget | 17:20 |
| sdake | hrw what was krtaylor'stalk? | 17:21 |
| hrw | multiarch kolla | 17:21 |
| hrw | Use Kolla on all your machines: Multi-arch microservice build and deployment | 17:21 |
| rwellum | sdake: I only see the one when I search: https://www.openstack.org/summit/sydney-2017/summit-schedule/global-search?t=Kolla | 17:22 |
| rwellum | inc0: If I see 4.0.2 here: https://releases.openstack.org/teams/kolla.html - does that mean images are published for 4.0.2? | 17:25 |
| sdake | rwellum thanks | 17:25 |
| sdake | litecoin mining ftw: Past 24 hours Rewards0.370875006976 LTC | 17:27 |
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| vhosakot | hrw: where in Europe? | 17:29 |
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| hrw | vhosakot: somewhere. will be cheaper to fly than to US | 17:37 |
| vhosakot | I see. | 17:37 |
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| ulf` | inc0: let me give that a try thanks! | 17:42 |
| ulf` | inc0: seems like it's hostNetwork: true though | 17:45 |
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| krtaylor | ah, darn, I didn't see the announce | 18:01 |
| krtaylor | hrw, maybe we can try again later | 18:01 |
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| krtaylor | there was only 1 kolla presentation accepted? wow | 18:06 |
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| inc0 | well there will be project update and onboarding for sure too | 18:10 |
| inc0 | but yeah, a bit low :( | 18:10 |
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| vhosakot | lots of https://www.openstack.org/summit/sydney-2017/summit-schedule/global-search?t=kubernetes talks. | 18:15 |
| vhosakot | lots of k8s talks I meant. | 18:15 |
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| inc0 | right, I'm not sure if that's good | 18:32 |
| inc0 | kubernetes has it's own conference | 18:32 |
| vhosakot | well, the talks are around using k8s with OpenStack using projects like magnum, openstack-helm and OSAD. | 18:40 |
| cloudnull | inc0: totally agree. | 18:41 |
| vhosakot | I'm very surprised no talk about kolla-k8s. kolla-k8s is doing next-gen (adding k8s to OpenStack), I thought there'd be many talks/users. | 18:41 |
| inc0 | well, k8s is new hype so I guess that's just how summits will look like for time being | 18:43 |
| vhosakot | right, k8s in DockerCon, MesosCon, OpenSTack summit, LinuxCon... | 18:43 |
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| inc0 | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/346455/ yay finally | 18:54 |
| inc0 | proposed over a year ago | 18:55 |
| jascott1 | sbezverk kfox1111 FYI we landed more deterministic rendering order in helm 2.6 | 19:01 |
| jascott1 | but `template plugin in helm` got slated for 2.7 | 19:01 |
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| sdake | inc0 lol re kuberneetes has it's own conference | 19:44 |
| sdake | inc0 STABLE FOLLOWS POLICY | 19:45 |
| sdake | holy shitballs | 19:45 |
| inc0 | yeah, I'm not saying don't talk about it, but let's not forget about openstack topics.. | 19:45 |
| rwellum | sdake: should have proposed a summit topic: 'Will k8s replace OpenStack".... :) | 19:50 |
| sdake | the answer is no | 19:50 |
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| vhosakot | rwellum: well, well.. I'm not surprised if people think like: why do we need OpenStack Horizon when there is k8s dashboard? why do we need neutron when there is CNI? why cinder/ceph when there is k8s volumes? why do we need keystone when there is k8s secrets/key management, why glance when there are image registries? | 19:52 |
| rwellum | Yes and add in Cinder and others are working on their independence too. | 19:54 |
| sdake | vhosakot why do we need windows when we have linux? | 19:59 |
| sdake | vhosakot why do we need repulicans when we have democrats | 20:00 |
| sdake | vhosakot the answer is obviously - people like choices :) | 20:00 |
| rwellum | Answer to both is we don't? | 20:00 |
| rwellum | :) | 20:00 |
| sdake | rwellum yet both exist :) | 20:00 |
| vhosakot | sdake: yes, totally agree :) | 20:02 |
| sdake | vhosakot also your keystone analogoy to k8s secrets it wrong - the correct system would be barbican | 20:02 |
| vhosakot | sdake: right, barbican... | 20:02 |
| sdake | ok peeps i gotta jet for a bit | 20:02 |
| vhosakot | yes, I think k8s cannot "replace" OpenStack. | 20:02 |
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| Mannheim | k8s is not the same thing as OpenStack | 20:46 |
| Mannheim | OpenStack is IaaS, k8s is Paas | 20:46 |
| Mannheim | hello folks | 20:46 |
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| vhosakot | right, very good point. | 20:48 |
| Mannheim | and as I like to descibe it "k8s can perfectly run on OpenStack, get over it" :D | 20:49 |
| Mannheim | btw, I say this again, if you want a good k8s book try "Kubernetes in action" from Manning | 20:50 |
| Mannheim | this book is perfect | 20:50 |
| vhosakot | we can also run OpenStack and Kubernetes on each other in a loop ;) | 20:50 |
| Mannheim | yep, it's called k8s-openstack club sandwich if memory serves | 20:51 |
| vhosakot | OpenStacKuberneteStacKuberneteStacKubernetStacKubernetes in a loop :) | 20:52 |
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| kolla-slack | <kfox1111> k8s deployed using ironic (openstack), k8s hosting ironic. :slightly_smiling_face: | 21:38 |
| rwellum | CoreOS are investigating self-hosted k8s. | 21:38 |
| kolla-slack | <kfox1111> yeah. been keeping a close eye on self hosted k8s. | 21:38 |
| kolla-slack | <kfox1111> I think between the self hosting k8s bits going in soon, etcd-operator and something like ironic, you could totally make it self hosting. | 21:39 |
| kolla-slack | <kfox1111> from seed vm sluffed all the way off to hardware. | 21:39 |
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| jascott1 | sluffed :) | 21:51 |
| kolla-slack | <kfox1111> :slightly_smiling_face: | 21:52 |
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