Monday, 2018-01-29

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duonghqmorning guys01:37
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kiennt26duonghq: morning01:46
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qqmberI'0m facing this same issue: https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/111420/how-does-kolla-configure-br-ex/ I'm sacha-m that is asking on the comments of that question.01:59
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openstackgerritDai Dang Van proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Support policy.yaml file [part 2]  https://review.openstack.org/53164102:51
openstackgerritDai Dang Van proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Support policy.yaml file [part 7]  https://review.openstack.org/53171102:51
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spsuryamorning guys03:04
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openstackgerritSurya Prakash (spsurya) proposed openstack/kolla master: Zuul: Remove project name  https://review.openstack.org/53873603:28
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openstackgerritJeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Adding octavia required roles  https://review.openstack.org/53874704:49
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add cpu_mode in vagrant/bootstrap.sh  https://review.openstack.org/53722105:25
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openstackgerritChandan Kumar proposed openstack/kolla master: Added meta container for all tempest plugins  https://review.openstack.org/53780706:19
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openstackgerritChason Chan proposed openstack/kolla master: Add one more step to generate kolla-build.conf file  https://review.openstack.org/53880407:05
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duonghqegonzalez, hi08:00
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Support policy.yaml file [part 7]  https://review.openstack.org/53171108:09
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ktibihi egonzalez, I found the solution of my issue with DNS09:04
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egonzalezktibi, cool, what was?09:04
ktibiegonzalez, I don't know why but I need to add allow-notify in named.conf09:05
ktibibecause in bind log, I have a lot a refused notify without :/09:05
ktibi:q09:05
egonzalezktibi, will that impact in upgrades or security?09:05
ktibiI guess it's because my dns_interface is not my api_interface :/09:05
ktibiI don't know how can work without or maybe with rndc09:06
ktibiYou can add network or ip with allow-notify so for security, you can force to trust just CTRL but you don't have any authentification so :/09:07
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ktibiegonzalez, without the notify I have "zone test.toto/IN: refused notify from non-master: 172.16.7.4#47147"09:10
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ktibiegonzalez, or missing conf for rdnc :/09:15
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ktibiegonzalez, https://github.com/openstack/charm-designate-bind/commit/32c554817517aa7738b3daf69d2c107e1d83693409:17
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duonghqhi egonzalez, can you check my comment on my ps" https://review.openstack.org/#/c/529546/09:28
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openstackgerritHanbae Seo proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: Enable to use HA Kubernetes masters  https://review.openstack.org/53885409:31
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openstackgerritKevin Tibi proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Skydive: Fix endpoint for keystone  https://review.openstack.org/53639309:34
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openstackgerritKevin Tibi proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add permission to notify dns server from worker  https://review.openstack.org/53886110:02
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openstackgerritChandan Kumar proposed openstack/kolla master: Added meta container for all tempest plugins  https://review.openstack.org/53780710:25
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yankcrimeanyone around to give some feedback on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/534834/ ?10:27
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pbourkeegonzalez: anyone working on ceph bluestore to your knowlege?10:42
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ktibipbourke, http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-kolla/%23openstack-kolla.2018-01-11.log.html#t2018-01-11T16:18:3510:43
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pbourkeyankcrime: the patch looks ok but typically operators who want that level of customisation are encouraged to provide their own config files10:45
pbourkethe thinking behind this is if we start templating every possible config option the config files become a nightmare10:45
pbourkethat's my concern with this patch10:45
yankcrimepbourke understood, this seemed like a fairly light-touch way of at least offering the ability to introduce arbitrary additional options to each stanza though10:45
pbourkeyeah, Im not sure the project has been very consistent on this policy so far, so Id like to check again where people stand on it so there's no confusion for contributors10:47
egonzalezpbourke, not im aware of10:48
pbourkeegonzalez: ok I'll take a look at adding it10:48
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egonzalezpbourke, have you added the destroy per service for ptg planning?10:50
yankcrimepbourke the use-case for us was being able to capture (log) part of the request header (user agent)10:50
yankcrimewhich is a pretty common ime10:51
pbourkeegonzalez: wasn't from me but I think it would be a great feature all the same10:51
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egonzalezpbourke, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/504592/ have to revisit the change, missing many things and improvements10:52
pbourkeegonzalez: oh, nice!10:52
pbourkeegonzalez: I'll definitely take a look10:52
egonzalez^^ was a flight work change, so not much testing was done, just theory10:53
yankcrimepbourke any suggestions for who is best to poke about that change?10:53
pbourkeyankcrime: Im thinking of sending a mail out to the mailing list to see if we can get more opinions10:53
pbourkeyankcrime: again I dont have any major problem with the patch, just would like to be consistent10:53
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yankcrimepbourke: cool, will look out for it then10:54
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-openstackstatus- NOTICE: Zuul is currently under heavy load. Do not *recheck* or *approve* any changes.11:03
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dardeleanhi11:06
openstackgerritSurya Prakash (spsurya) proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: Zuul: Remove project name  https://review.openstack.org/53887411:08
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pbourkeyankcrime: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-January/126663.html11:18
yankcrimepbourke: thanks11:19
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openstackgerritVladislav Belogrudov proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Cinder fails some operations with secure NAS features  https://review.openstack.org/51463911:52
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qqmberegonzalez: Hi12:37
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jmccarthyHiyas, looking forward to PTG in Dublin ! Just checking, is this the correct etherpad ? https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-rocky-ptg-planning12:56
pbourkejmccarthy: yes :)13:04
jmccarthy:) Txs !13:06
openstackgerritKevin Tibi proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add permission to notify dns server from worker  https://review.openstack.org/53886113:14
dardeleaninc0 not confirmed?13:30
dmsimardJeffrey4l, sdake, egonzalez: FYI http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-January/126666.html13:31
dmsimardSorry that I wasn't able to get this out sooner, been underwater13:31
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qqmberIf I made a change like neutron_external_interface from eth0 to eth1 or something like that, can I do a kolla-ansible -i XXX reconfigure? or Do I have to destroy and deploy from skratch?13:35
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openstackgerritDai Dang Van proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Support policy.yaml file [part 2]  https://review.openstack.org/53164113:36
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Jeffrey4ldmsimard, cool. btw, is the rdo queens repo ready? can kolla use it rather than delorean repo.13:45
dmsimardJeffrey4l: we bootstrap the stable repositories around the release candidate period13:45
dmsimardSo not for a while still.13:46
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Jeffrey4lgot. tx13:47
Jeffrey4lthx13:47
pbourkedmsimard: just saw your email, sounds great :)13:56
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sdakedmsimard - my Feb 8th is booked, although I am partially available on the 7th13:58
dmsimardsdake: hey, so the hardware is made available on the 7th to let you folks the time to install things and then the test days run through the 8th and the 9th if everything goes according to plan14:00
sdakemy 9th is mostly clear - although that is subject to change :)14:01
dmsimardsdake: if you can't participate the 8th or the 9th that's fine, maybe you can help plan things -- like what you will use (k8s or ansible), what projects will be installed and how they will be configured, etc.14:01
sdakehow is the networking configured?14:02
dmsimardIt'd be great to have someone lead (and test prior to the test day?) the plan for the deployment14:02
dmsimardLast time we ran one large bare metal (24 cores, 128GB ram, sufficient disk space), I don't 100% know what we'll get this time around -- it's still in the works.14:04
sdakewe have ested kolla on 130 nodes, that took a couple weeks to execute and 24 hrs/day worth of my time :)14:04
sdakeunderstanding the network toplogy ahead of time woudl be valuable14:05
sdaketypically kolla requires an internet routed connection and a management network14:05
sdake(at minimum)14:05
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sdakeaccess is granted - via SSH?14:06
sdakewill need a /26 at minimum for the internet routed network as well14:08
sdake /27 may work14:08
sdakenetworking is the hardest part of openstack (and kolla)14:08
sdakethe rest is pushing a button14:08
sdakepbourke ^^14:08
pbourkeagree, though this is just one node by the sounds of it14:10
pbourkeso should be much easier14:10
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openstackgerritMark Duggan proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Adding ironic_dnsmasq_dhcp_range parameter to globals.yml  https://review.openstack.org/53893014:29
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openstackgerritDan Ardelean proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Implement cinder-smb-hyperv ansible role  https://review.openstack.org/50853014:49
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JezekusHello15:16
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openstackgerritDan Ardelean proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Implement cinder-smb-hyperv ansible role  https://review.openstack.org/50853015:18
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openstackgerritEduardo Gonzalez proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Fix odl custom config  https://review.openstack.org/53816615:26
santacloud_Hello15:27
dardeleanhi15:46
santacloud_I've just deployed my kolla ansible platform (multinode)15:49
santacloud_and network topology does not work, I have a "something went wrong error"15:49
santacloud_is that happend also for you?15:50
santacloud_I can deploy an instance normally15:50
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inc0hello:)15:57
dardeleanhei inc015:57
* inc0 is back15:57
qqmberIf you have one Ceph host, but 4 OSD (4 disks), is that enough to have a kealthy CEPH? Or I still have to change pool sizes to 1 (ceph osd pool set size 1)?15:57
qqmberbecause now I have:15:57
inc0qqmber: still need to make 1 node changes15:57
qqmber8 pgs are stuck inactive for more than 300 seconds15:57
inc0ceph cares about number of nodes15:58
qqmberinc0: like the pool size?15:58
qqmberDo i have to treat as aio?15:58
qqmbertreat it15:58
inc0yeah15:59
inc0it's aio as far as ceph is concerned15:59
qqmberok.. As far as I can see (https://docs.openstack.org/kolla-ansible/latest/reference/ceph-guide.html), the changes I have to do is change pool size to 1 (done already). But still not working16:01
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qqmberor I'm missing something?16:01
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inc0ceph -s doens't show any warning or anything?16:02
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dardeleaninc0 you coming the the PTG, right?16:06
inc0I don't :(16:07
dardeleanoh16:07
inc0yeah that sucks16:07
dardeleanbummer16:07
qqmberinc0: https://da.gd/PtUgH16:09
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qqmberinc0: abd here is my globals: http://paste.ubuntu.com/26484421/16:10
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qqmberany clue on where is my error, would me awesome, because now I've to decide if wether use or not Ceph, because I have to move on and pass to production ASAP16:11
inc0hmm16:11
inc0this doesn't look like aio issue16:11
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qqmberbtw, I have 2 hosts, beside the deployment one.16:12
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sdakeinc0 sup dude ;)16:12
inc0qqmber: ceph is really useful, makes life a lot easier16:12
inc0check logs in ceph containers16:13
qqmberI know.. that's why I want to make it work :(16:13
inc0or /var/lib/docker/volumes/kolla_logs16:13
inc0from hsot16:13
inc0sdake: it's cold here:(16:13
sdake80F during days here - HOT16:13
inc0I just came back from 90+F16:14
sdakemy mining operation is going to melt down16:14
inc0to low 50s in OR16:14
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sdakehttps://twitter.com/steven_dake/status/95774608599217766416:14
sdakemy fun filled weekend :)16:15
inc0lol16:15
qqmberif you have cinder and ceph enabled, volumes and backups will be in cinder? because this time those pools were not created16:16
qqmberin ceph16:16
inc0yes, and if ceph pools weren't created that's worrisome16:17
inc0they should.16:17
inc0any chances you can wipe out your env and try again?16:17
inc0sdake: anything interesting happend during my absence?16:17
qqmbersure16:17
qqmberif you tell me that to change, sure..16:17
sdakeinc0 if you read scrollback, dmellado is having a RDO test day with kolla on 8th-9th and prep on 7th of feb16:17
inc0qqmber: just to be sure - run kolla-ansible destroyu16:18
qqmberinc0: abd here is my globals: http://paste.ubuntu.com/26484421/16:18
sdakedmsimard|afk rather16:18
inc0qqmber: and you built your images?16:18
qqmberIf I do it like now, it will be the same result. I've deployed 20 times.. same result. Something is missing in globals, I think16:18
sdakeqqmber did you mark your volumes for use as ceph volumes?16:18
sdakedisks rather16:19
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qqmberinc0: images on the registry? I used centos, binary. That's your question?16:19
qqmbersdake, I mean16:19
inc0no, if you didn't build your images at all, there is good chance you got images from dockerhub16:19
inc0and that's not good with these globals16:20
qqmbersdake: I maked the disks with KOLLA_CEPH_OSD_BOOTSTRAP, yes16:20
sdakeqqmber ok - after doing that, and resetting, you removed the ceph volumes from /etc/fstab and rebooted?16:20
inc0there are 2 ways to get working images: 1. build them, push to local registry16:20
qqmberI have them on the local registry.. I think.. wait16:21
sdakeqqmber inc0 is correct, docker hub images are problematic at this time16:21
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inc0seems like you do16:21
qqmbersdake: give me one minute16:21
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sdakeyup - i have to jet to get my car detailed, bbl :)16:21
inc0qqmber: ceph logs didn't show anything interesting?16:22
qqmberinc0: http://paste.ubuntu.com/26484468/ <--- please look at that16:22
inc0yeah looks good16:23
qqmbersdake: I didn't touch /etc/fstab16:23
inc0but still, let me know what you have in /var/log/kolla/ceph_mon and ceph_osd16:23
inc0in respective containers16:23
qqmberbut there is nothing related to this disks (sdb, sdc, sde snd sdf)16:24
qqmberinc0: /var/lib/docker/volumes/kolla_logs/_data/ceph/ceph-mon.172.16.220.21.log  -> https://da.gd/Y57416:25
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qqmberinc0: /var/lib/docker/volumes/kolla_logs/_data/ceph/ceph-osd.0.log -> https://da.gd/3uXD16:26
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inc0qqmber: sooo confirm that your date is synchronized16:27
inc0a lot of "slow requests" in osd16:27
inc0so either network is *really* bad or date is off between nodes16:27
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inc0well datetime, they need to be in perfect sync16:28
sbezverkrwellum ping16:28
qqmberinc0: I'll check that, because the network is fine.. 1Gbps and no much use at the moment16:29
inc0my bet would be date16:29
inc0in any case, that's a lead16:29
inc0this slow requests thingy16:29
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qqmberinc0: in both servers pretty much the same: 29 Jan 13:30:39 ntpdate[9776]: step time server 200.54.149.24 offset -0.000585 sec16:31
inc0hmm16:31
qqmberthis are Dell R710 and R410, 128GB Ram, 5x3TB disks, etc..16:32
qqmbernot bat hw16:32
inc0yeah that shouldn't matter, I successfully ran whole thing on 8gig vms16:32
openstackgerritMark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Optimize reconfiguration for ironic  https://review.openstack.org/42390116:33
qqmberbut.. on globals.. would you change anything?16:33
inc0bbiaf, meeting, globals looks good at first glance16:33
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jmccarthyIf I want to try a pike deploy (i.e. *not for development purposes) - I should use the pip install method, is that right ?17:18
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kfox1111morning.17:28
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jmccarthyMorning !#17:30
jmccarthyIs this the up-to-date guide ? https://docs.openstack.org/project-deploy-guide/kolla-ansible/pike/quickstart.html17:30
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jmccarthy(if I want to deploy pike that is)17:31
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openstackgerritKevin Fox proposed openstack/kolla-kubernetes master: WIP - dummy change to test gate.  https://review.openstack.org/53898817:32
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kfox1111rook got into the cncf. :)17:44
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jmccarthyIs 4.0.0 the 'best' tag to deploy pike ?18:02
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inc0jmccarthy: no18:12
inc0if you build your own images that should be 4.0.218:12
inc0if you want to download from hub, thats "pike"18:13
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inc0kfox1111: cool18:13
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jmccarthyinc0: I'm trying pip install kolla-ansible==<version> but 'pike' gives an error18:24
inc0ahh18:24
inc0run pip install kolla-ansible==4.*18:25
jmccarthyinc0: Ok cool I'll try that - thanks !18:25
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jmccarthyThat gives me 'Tag 4.0.3 not found in repository docker.io/kolla/centos-binary-fluentd' ? :/18:28
inc0change openstack_release="pike" in globals18:30
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jmccarthyinc0: I've passed 'Starting fluentd container' task, so should be good - thanks ! :D18:37
openstackgerritAndrey Arapov proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Enable nova compute LVM backend  https://review.openstack.org/46030818:39
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qqmberIf the demo network made by "init-runonce" works, and it's reacheable from the outside (e.g. Internet), but when I create my own network doesnt work... what would be wrong? I'm configuring it VXLAN, with ID 222 (any number). Do I have to do anything else besides that?18:50
inc0vxlan or vlan?18:51
inc0vxlan shouldn't have number:)18:51
jmccarthyinc0: Thanks again, that was the trick, deploy complete18:51
inc0glad to hear that jmccarthy18:52
inc0fyi "pike" stands for set of images we build daily and push to dockerhub18:52
jmccarthyinc0: The pip install method pulls them from there isn't it ?18:53
inc0qqmber: also you should create router between your new network and demo18:53
inc0and assing floating ip to vm18:53
inc0jmccarthy: pip installs kolla-ansible - deployment code18:53
inc0then kolla-ansible pulls images from hub18:53
inc02 different things18:53
jmccarthyinc0: Yep - true18:54
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jmccarthyinc0: I meant the kolla-ansible -i <inv file> deploy - that this pulls from dockerhub18:54
inc0yes18:55
inc0but there is no tag 4.0.3 in hub and shouldn't ever be18:55
inc0instead, you have "pike"18:55
jmccarthyinc0: is that what folks mainly do ? This is handy for eval - but is this generally the way for production to possibly ? (or is that more the host a private registry angle)18:56
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qqmberinc0: I created a new router, floating Ips and so on, bothing between Demo and my new Router18:58
qqmberWhat if I want to have separated networks?18:58
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inc0jmccarthy: well you can download it and test it locally18:59
inc0at some point we'll add testing to these images before push18:59
inc0it's functional equivalent to you builing yourself now18:59
inc0qqmber: what do you mean by "separate"?18:59
qqmberhmmm19:00
inc02 networks are completely separate barring well...router between19:00
qqmberThat if I want to go from Demo network to my new network, has to go out of Openstack World19:01
qqmberbut it seems that has to be flat instead of VXLAN (I'm lookin into init-runonce script)19:01
inc0well if you use demo network and create new network with router between it's all within openstack19:01
inc0thing is vxlan isn't trivial to connect to internet19:01
inc0flat is well...flat19:01
qqmberhaha19:02
inc0you connect cable to neutron_external_interface and that's it19:02
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inc0vxlan is tunnel so you'd need to create equivalent to neutron router to allow external access to it19:02
inc0also init-runonce is entirely optional:)19:03
inc0did you get ceph to work btw?19:03
qqmberinc0: I know is optional, but I'm using it in order to learn how it is done the whole process.19:04
qqmberinc0: no, I'll make it work later, with time in a lab first. Now I need to launch some instances, today.19:04
inc0ok19:04
inc0you can try to install ceph externally19:04
inc0with ceph deploy or something19:04
inc0and just use it for openstack19:05
inc0it's fairly straightforward19:05
jmccarthyI don't think I did much different from init-runonce (that I remember at the moment), for a vxlan setup, 'neutron net-create demo-net1 --provider:network_type vxlan''19:05
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qqmberactually is:19:08
qqmberopenstack network create --external --provider-physical-network physnet1 \19:08
qqmber    --provider-network-type flat public119:08
inc0that's external19:08
inc0agg19:08
inc0demo net is vxlan19:09
inc0my mistake, to create new network you need to add router between public1 and your-new-net19:09
qqmber yeah.. that's what I want to avoid19:09
inc0no need for your-new-net to ever see demo net19:10
inc0well you need to access internet through something19:10
qqmberbecause I wanted to have one floating IP network for my servers, and another one for my customer's, for example19:10
inc0I see19:10
inc0vlans?19:10
inc0you could create few public networks connected to vlans19:11
inc0instead of one flat untagged19:11
qqmberyes.. that's what I expecet to have.. the one I created is VXLAN, but is not reacheable yet.. I hope to have it working right the way..19:12
qqmberthat's what I understood from here:19:12
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inc0vxlan != vlan19:13
qqmberhttps://ask.openstack.org/en/question/111420/how-does-kolla-configure-br-ex/19:13
qqmberyes.. I'll go with VLANs now19:13
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jmccarthyinc0: If I have pip installed 'pike' but there is a newer version of it that I want to upgrade to - I can just go ahead and do 'upgrade' ?19:18
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inc0agian jmccarthy you installed kolla-ansible 4.0.319:19
jmccarthyinc0: Or what would - sorry yes I mean if I want newer images19:20
jmccarthyinc0: i.e. there are newer pike images avail19:20
jmccarthyable19:20
inc0yeah, kolla-ansible pull -> kolla-ansible upgrade19:20
jmccarthyinc0: ok yea pull first makes sense, I getcha - just checking !19:21
jmccarthyinc0: Thanks :)19:22
inc0any time19:22
jmccarthyinc0: Is there a way to tell without pulling if/what version of images is there ? (I guess if hash has changed) I can see the current one in docker images listing, but how to know what the one of 'pike' is on docker hub > Is it listed someplace ?19:23
jmccarthyinc0: i.e. to know *before doing a pull, if there is actually a newer 'pike' images there for a certain piece19:25
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inc0so "pike" images will be replaced daily19:26
inc0https://hub.docker.com/r/kolla/centos-binary-ceph-mon/tags/19:26
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jmccarthyinc0: Yep, but once I pull the newer one, (and deploy) how can I go back to the previous 'pike' image if I have an issue ?19:28
inc0you'd need to stash them somewher19:28
jmccarthyinc0: Ok19:29
inc0you can do something like docker tag centos-binary-base:pike centos-binary-base:pike-29.1.201819:29
jmccarthyinc0: So yep could do that before upgrading, that makes sense19:29
jmccarthyinc0: Ok cool, thanks again !19:30
jmccarthyinc0: Trying to figure out a bit more about different upgrade scenarios19:30
qqmbersorry, but the physical network (physnet1) that uses Demo was declared somewhere in Neutron?19:31
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jmccarthyqqmbver: Well you don't want this, but for me I had 'neutron net-create public1 --router:external --provider:physical_network physnet1 --provider:network_type flat'19:32
jmccarthyI must update my old notes to new clients lol19:32
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inc0just change to network_type vlan19:32
openstackgerritMark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Optimize reconfiguration for ironic  https://review.openstack.org/42390119:32
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qqmberhmmm... maybe is good enough what inc0 said (I think): Put public1 (mada for Demo) as gateway for my new router, in my new project, my new internal network, etc.. In public1, I created a new subnet, different than 10.0.2.0/24 and created a floating IP from that range (as subnet of Public1)19:46
qqmberGood enough19:46
qqmber:)19:46
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qqmbermada for demo = Made for Demo19:46
rwelluminc0: Can you check out: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/532626/ - see if it's W worthy? :)19:53
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qqmberIs there any documentation that come with network diagram? That would be useful, because my main problem was that I used eth0 as the external and eth1 as the internal network (in past deployments of Openstack, without kolla)20:02
inc0no diagrams that I know of:(20:03
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qqmberinc0: okm thx20:11
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qqmberWhen you allocate an (external/floating) IP, you select the (external) network, not the subnet. If that network has several subnets, how can you decide (force) from which subnet take that IP?20:17
qqmberthe same when you set gateway to a router. It asks for a network, not a subnet. :(20:18
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unicellsorry, very dumb question. Regarding OpenStack on Kubernetes, there's openstack-helm project as well as kolla-kubernetes (with Helm charts in it), both seem active. Wondering what is the difference and which one is recommened for way to go.21:01
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unicellI tried search in the wiki and mail list, couldn't find much useful info regarding the difference of the two21:02
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rwellumunicell: I can share my opinion - I did a comparison once. It's a little out-of-date.21:20
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unicellrwellum: thanks!!21:27
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v1k0d3nhey unicell22:10
v1k0d3ngood question22:10
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v1k0d3nso OSH uses only one tool for installing openstack on top of kubernetes...including how configuration data is consumed = helm. in fact, the project aims to be extremely prescriptive in this way.22:12
v1k0d3nthe resulting deployment, is intended to be stateless (in a way): what i mean is that the way you make changes is to do a helm upgrade...22:13
v1k0d3nthat generates a release in helm, so you can rollback.22:13
inc0well, same goes for kolla-k8s22:14
v1k0d3ni think (kolla guys need to keep me honest...folks like @kfox1111 know best), but kolla-kubernetes allows you to manage the containers after the fact (similar to how kolla-ansible was) and generate config during some pre-deployment phase...which is jinja-based.22:14
inc0but structure of charts is big difference22:14
v1k0d3nah, ok...well...been out for a while.22:14
v1k0d3nyeah, to @inc0's point...the way the charts consume config data for the deployment is a big difference.22:15
v1k0d3nOSH relies only on the Charts, and Chart override at the time of deployment. each chart has it's own config structure with can be overridden at the time of deployment, and upgrade.22:16
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inc0what I meant is lowest level chart for OSH is "neutron" where lowest level chart for kolla-k8s is "neutron-server", so microservice22:16
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v1k0d3nlike https://github.com/openstack/openstack-helm/blob/master/keystone/values.yaml#L260-L50822:17
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inc0that I think is huge difference, other than that we have a lot of smaller implementational details22:17
v1k0d3nwell, yeah...there's that too.22:17
inc0and ad config - we just never got to move configs to charts, but that's planned22:17
v1k0d3nso the way each project treats "microservice" was a big difference.22:18
v1k0d3nneutron components are still broken out and can be configured in OSH. they're just not treated as separate deployments.22:18
v1k0d3nfor OSH, that was a bit too granular, when the deployments are still broken out anyway (just within a "neutron" chart).22:19
v1k0d3ni mean, clearly you can see that each component is broken out into it's own deployment manifest (all controlled via the values.yaml in each service).22:20
v1k0d3nhttps://github.com/openstack/openstack-helm/tree/master/neutron/templates22:20
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v1k0d3nso to the example given: https://github.com/openstack/openstack-helm/blob/master/neutron/templates/deployment-server.yaml22:20
v1k0d3n^^ i.e. neutron server22:20
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v1k0d3nand so what you'll find when searching in the values file...is all the knobs for "server" are there...you can for instance, upgrade _just_ the server part (if you want): https://github.com/openstack/openstack-helm/blob/master/neutron/values.yaml#L3222:22
v1k0d3nor turn on/off: https://github.com/openstack/openstack-helm/blob/master/neutron/values.yaml#L117322:22
v1k0d3ndefine ingress or ports, etc: https://github.com/openstack/openstack-helm/blob/master/neutron/values.yaml#L90-L10222:23
v1k0d3nyou can get the point.22:23
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v1k0d3nit's all there...to see ahead of time. tiller does the render, but config lives with the service, broken out into microservices inside of a single openstack service deployment (mouthful).22:23
v1k0d3nhopefully that helps unicell? sorry missed your message earlier.22:25
unicellv1k0d3n: Thanks a bunch!! I think now I get better understanding now22:25
rwellumRemind me v1k0d3n  - those kolla images above look a bit old (3.0) - how do you handle newer versions especially as they are being published daily?22:26
v1k0d3nif you have any questions...please, feel free to reach out to the folks in Kolla and OSH. both groups are absolutely top notch folks, and work with each other closely.22:26
v1k0d3ndude...yeah...you are SO RIGHT.22:27
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v1k0d3ni mentioned some roadmap stuff to the OSH group and would really like move that into something more relevant.22:27
v1k0d3ni'll just leave it at that.22:27
v1k0d3nnot really sure what the plan is there...22:27
inc0yeah, if you want to make use of daily builds, try using tag "pike" or "ocata"22:28
v1k0d3nit's in openstack now...official...so i think they need to update it soon? not sure.22:28
v1k0d3nyeah totally agree.22:28
inc0well it's in kolla namespace22:28
inc0always have been22:28
inc0only now they're built by openstack CI22:29
inc0every 24hrs to ensure that you get all freshest libs22:29
inc0important for security22:29
v1k0d3nyup.22:29
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dmsimard|afkinc0: just in case you missed it: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-January/126666.html23:00
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