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cp | why does the kayobe VagrantFile only refers to a Centos 7 machine ? | 02:32 |
cp | Can't we use a Ubuntu machine for the VM ? | 02:32 |
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openstackgerrit | Zdenek Dvorak proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/rocky: Patch to fix RPC selection problem after upgrade https://review.opendev.org/693505 | 07:08 |
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openstackgerrit | Marcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/kolla master: base: generate en_US.UTF-8 locale data for Debian/Ubuntu systems https://review.opendev.org/694099 | 07:36 |
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openstackgerrit | Marcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/kolla master: base: generate en_US.UTF-8 locale data for Debian/Ubuntu systems https://review.opendev.org/694099 | 07:39 |
mnasiadka | morning | 07:45 |
mnasiadka | cp: I think Ubuntu is only supported on the Ansible control host, not on the overcloud. | 07:46 |
cp | I see | 07:47 |
openstackgerrit | Marcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/kolla master: Revert "Use Train release for all OpenStack projects" https://review.opendev.org/694056 | 07:48 |
cp | mnasiadka: that is kind of too bad | 07:48 |
yoctozepto | morning | 07:52 |
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yoctozepto | mgoddard: so deprecate onos? | 07:54 |
yoctozepto | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2019-November/010811.html | 07:55 |
cp | uhmm FreeBSD is supported in train ? | 08:08 |
yoctozepto | cp: what do you mean? as a guest system in a vm? then it depends on the hypervisor but generally yes | 08:14 |
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openstackgerrit | Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla master: base: generate en_US.UTF-8 locale data for Debian/Ubuntu systems https://review.opendev.org/694099 | 08:27 |
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hrw | mnasiadka: ^^ | 08:45 |
mnasiadka | done, wait for zuul and +w ;) | 08:47 |
mnasiadka | yoctozepto: do we support onos? | 08:48 |
hrw | mnasiadka: thx | 08:49 |
yoctozepto | mnasiadka: unfortunately, yes | 08:52 |
yoctozepto | I guess the reason mgoddard asked ml | 08:52 |
yoctozepto | is he saw onos next to odl we deprecate | 08:52 |
mnasiadka | well then deprecate and remove as fast as possible :) | 08:52 |
yoctozepto | :D | 08:52 |
yoctozepto | my pleasure, sir | 08:52 |
yoctozepto | it helps with my personal goal to clean up neutron config | 08:53 |
yoctozepto | less conditionals that look plain weird | 08:53 |
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mnasiadka | yeah, so I guess onos and opendaylight will be gone from the neutron role | 09:07 |
mnasiadka | makes stuff simpler | 09:07 |
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mnasiadka | (especially with adding OVN to the mix) | 09:41 |
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openstackgerrit | Marcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/kolla master: Revert "Use Train release for all OpenStack projects" https://review.opendev.org/694056 | 09:43 |
hrw | 694056 rebased | 09:43 |
mgoddard | cp: hi. Is lack of ubuntu support a blocker for you? | 09:44 |
mgoddard | morning | 09:45 |
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openstackgerrit | Marcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/kolla master: Add keyserver-options 'http-proxy' for apt-key in base/Dockerfile.j2 https://review.opendev.org/692029 | 09:48 |
openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kayobe stable/stein: Fix kolla ansible virtualenv creation on the seed https://review.opendev.org/694220 | 09:52 |
hrw | mgoddard: nice comment about locales ;D | 09:53 |
mgoddard | hrw: every time we touch something fundamental, it breaks in weird ways. And it's not always obvious when merged | 09:54 |
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mgoddard | hrw: back to C? :) | 09:54 |
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openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kayobe stable/rocky: Fix kolla ansible virtualenv creation on the seed https://review.opendev.org/694224 | 09:55 |
hrw | mgoddard: no way | 09:55 |
openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kayobe stable/queens: Fix kolla ansible virtualenv creation on the seed https://review.opendev.org/694226 | 09:55 |
hrw | mgoddard: once that patch go in we have same locale for each distro | 09:55 |
mgoddard | hrw: sometimes you have to treat your children differently | 09:56 |
openstackgerrit | Dincer Celik proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Fixes the compatibility issue at HAProxy role with Ansible 2.9 https://review.opendev.org/694058 | 09:57 |
hrw | mgoddard: if you say so | 09:57 |
mgoddard | I just mean that distros are all a little bit different, and sometimes it's easier to accommodate their differences than try to force them all to be the same | 09:58 |
mgoddard | it's not always true | 09:58 |
hrw | sure | 09:58 |
yoctozepto | mgoddard: now we are getting C and it breaks congress | 10:04 |
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yoctozepto | dumb python defaults to locale encoding | 10:05 |
mnasiadka | well then, we need to treat our children differently :D | 10:05 |
yoctozepto | mnasiadka: deprecate python | 10:12 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kayobe master: Remove some references to Github https://review.opendev.org/692415 | 10:12 |
mnasiadka | yoctozepto: well, there's always the second approach - fix it in python :) | 10:12 |
openstackgerrit | Michal Nasiadka proposed openstack/kayobe master: Fix customised inventory section https://review.opendev.org/686141 | 10:16 |
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yoctozepto | hrw: I was intrigued by the guy's comment on pushing | 10:16 |
yoctozepto | and he is right | 10:16 |
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yoctozepto | we are building and pushing atsm | 10:16 |
yoctozepto | that's why we regularly get 7 failures | 10:16 |
yoctozepto | because the 8th thread is pushing | 10:17 |
yoctozepto | we need to delay the pushing after builds | 10:17 |
yoctozepto | plus use his comment avoid in-push failures | 10:17 |
hrw | yoctozepto: ok | 10:18 |
yoctozepto | hrw: want to handle this or prefer me? | 10:19 |
hrw | yoctozepto: looks like you have some idea to try | 10:19 |
hrw | yoctozepto: so go for it | 10:19 |
yoctozepto | ok | 10:20 |
hrw | in meantime I will look at centos8 | 10:22 |
openstackgerrit | Marcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/kolla master: Drop openstack-tox-py27 job https://review.opendev.org/694235 | 10:31 |
hrw | someones care about python 2? | 10:31 |
openstackgerrit | Marcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/kolla master: WIP: move to CentOS 8 in containers https://review.opendev.org/692368 | 10:33 |
hrw | rebased to HEAD | 10:33 |
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stingrayza | morning o/ | 10:40 |
openstackgerrit | Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: CI: Push images to the local registry after all are built https://review.opendev.org/694243 | 10:40 |
yoctozepto | hrw: ^ | 10:41 |
hrw | yoctozepto: +2 | 10:42 |
openstackgerrit | Marcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/kolla master: WIP: move to CentOS 8 in containers https://review.opendev.org/692368 | 10:43 |
openstackgerrit | Marcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/kolla master: WIP: CI: Move to CentOS 8 nodepool images https://review.opendev.org/692794 | 10:43 |
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cp | mgoddard: Sort of | 10:45 |
cp | mgoddard: I guess OpenStack is a Redhat/Centos world | 10:45 |
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yoctozepto | cp: nope, most stuff is tested on ubuntu actually | 10:47 |
yoctozepto | it just happens that kayobe guys prefer rhel env | 10:47 |
mgoddard | cp: would you be willing to help port kayobe to ubuntu? | 10:47 |
cp | just my luck :) | 10:47 |
cp | mgoddard: how can I help ? | 10:47 |
mgoddard | cp: many of our Ansible roles are from Galaxy, and already support Ubuntu | 10:48 |
mgoddard | we would need some conditional apt/yum changes | 10:48 |
mgoddard | we are not against adding ubuntu support, it's just that we use centos, as do most of our users | 10:49 |
cp | I wonder why | 10:49 |
mgoddard | I would definitely recommend that as the easier path, but if you really want ubuntu I could find some time to help get it working | 10:49 |
mgoddard | if you will also help :) | 10:50 |
cp | I will think about it. I do not want to promise something that will end up in ENOTIME | 10:50 |
mgoddard | cp: I understand | 10:50 |
mgoddard | let me know | 10:50 |
cp | currently I am learning OpenStack and at the moment it is ENOTIME | 10:51 |
mgoddard | ok, so you already have your hands quite full | 10:51 |
cp | that's right | 10:51 |
cp | and I will probably be asking lots of stupid questions too | 10:52 |
hrw | mnasiadka, yoctozepto: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/694099/ got +1 - time for +w :D | 10:52 |
patchbot | patch 694099 - kolla - base: generate en_US.UTF-8 locale data for Debian/... - 6 patch sets | 10:52 |
mnasiadka | hrw: mgoddard asked a question, maybe it's better to answer and then +w :D | 10:53 |
hrw | let me check | 10:53 |
mgoddard | just added -1 to block | 10:53 |
hrw | (venv3) 11:55 (73s) hrw@puchatek:kolla$ docker run --rm -it en-c/debian-source-base:8.1.0 bash | 10:55 |
hrw | ()[root@094aa7602569 /]# locale | 10:55 |
hrw | LANG=C | 10:55 |
hrw | with LANG=C set in base_lang block | 10:56 |
hrw | now checking ubuntu | 10:56 |
openstackgerrit | Doug Szumski proposed openstack/kayobe master: Add support for custom Elasticsearch config https://review.opendev.org/694247 | 10:57 |
openstackgerrit | Numan Siddique proposed openstack/kolla master: Use ovn-ctl script to start OVN ovsdb-servers https://review.opendev.org/691507 | 10:59 |
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yoctozepto | mgoddard, hrw, mnasiadka: replied | 11:03 |
yoctozepto | also, you just don't want C anyway as any non-UTF-8 trigger py3 bad behavior | 11:03 |
hrw | INFO:kolla.common.utils.base:Error: 'C' is not a supported language or locale | 11:05 |
hrw | ubuntu:18.04 | 11:05 |
hrw | funny | 11:05 |
openstackgerrit | Doug Szumski proposed openstack/kayobe master: Add support for custom Elasticsearch config https://review.opendev.org/694247 | 11:07 |
hrw | we should just move to pl_PL.UTF-8 as default | 11:07 |
hrw | and use źdźbło for some important variable | 11:08 |
yoctozepto | dżdżysta_zmienna | 11:10 |
mnasiadka | awesome idea | 11:11 |
yoctozepto | we don't support non-UTF-8 anyway as they break py3 | 11:11 |
hrw | yoctozepto: and I just wanted to suggest Mazovia encoding... | 11:11 |
yoctozepto | hrw: sad | 11:13 |
yoctozepto | windows-1250 is backed by a commercially-succesful company | 11:14 |
yoctozepto | let's switch | 11:14 |
yoctozepto | dos-850 has a longer tradition | 11:14 |
yoctozepto | decisions, decisions | 11:14 |
hrw | yoctozepto: 850 or 852? I used AmigaPL encoding at that time... | 11:15 |
hrw | or be catolic - use xJP encoding ;D | 11:15 |
yoctozepto | JP na 100% | 11:15 |
yoctozepto | ;D | 11:15 |
hrw | yoctozepto: not that JP :D | 11:16 |
* hrw bbl | 11:16 | |
yoctozepto | it was written on a building wall on my way to church, must mean the right one | 11:16 |
Blinkiz | yoctozepto: In file /kolla-ansible/ansible/roles/heat/defaults/main.yml I have heat_ks_user_roles which defines project this user should belong to. project: "{{ openstack_auth.project_name }}". openstack_auth does not contain project_name anymore for me. Heat is authenticating with {{ openstack_heat_auth }} which uses {{ openstack_heat_auth }} that | 11:23 |
Blinkiz | has "system_scope: all". Anyway.. What is heat_ks_user_roles? Does it need to belong to a project when am using enforcing_scope = True? | 11:23 |
Blinkiz | This also is a problem with many roles that is using {{ openstack_auth.project_name }}. | 11:23 |
Blinkiz | I wrote a little wrong above. "openstack_heat_auth: {{ openstack_auth }}" should it be. | 11:25 |
yoctozepto | Blinkiz: as I said, it's a bit messy the way this var is used | 11:26 |
mgoddard | hrw, yoctozepto: we have a few patches still with RP-1. Can you check the feature freeze patches on the dashboard and remove | 11:30 |
Blinkiz | yoctozepto: Should I use {{ keystone_admin_project }} that can be defined in globals.yml? | 11:30 |
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yoctozepto | mgoddard: ok | 11:34 |
yoctozepto | Blinkiz: if you think it's appropriate | 11:34 |
openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Set previous release to Train https://review.opendev.org/694254 | 11:34 |
Blinkiz | yoctozepto: Okay. Going that path. :) | 11:35 |
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yoctozepto | Blinkiz: share the end result on gerrit and we will discuss :-) | 11:37 |
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Blinkiz | yoctozepto: okay | 11:37 |
yoctozepto | mgoddard: mine done | 11:38 |
openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Remove enable_xtrabackup variable https://review.opendev.org/694258 | 11:39 |
openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Remove transitional support for influxdb in cloudkitty upgrade https://review.opendev.org/694259 | 11:42 |
yoctozepto | mgoddard: we be dropping onos? (asking because did not see response) | 11:45 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kayobe stable/queens: Only set up the kolla ansible venv on hosts in the kolla ansible inventory https://review.opendev.org/692826 | 11:49 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kayobe master: Fix customised inventory section https://review.opendev.org/686141 | 11:49 |
openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Remove transitional support for neutron-lbaas removal https://review.opendev.org/694262 | 11:50 |
openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Remove precheck for nova_enable_rolling_upgrade https://review.opendev.org/694265 | 11:55 |
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openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: CI: Remove Stein upgrade support from CI https://review.opendev.org/694267 | 11:58 |
openstackgerrit | Marcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: CI/Debian: Push images after building https://review.opendev.org/694243 | 11:59 |
hrw | yoctozepto: improved a bit | 11:59 |
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openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/train: CI: Don't always build images for Debian https://review.opendev.org/694268 | 12:01 |
yoctozepto | hrw: thanks for not waiting for Zuul to get times in :-) | 12:01 |
openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/train: Fix indentation of HAProxy internal http-request config https://review.opendev.org/694269 | 12:02 |
openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/train: Fix keystone fernet rotation for source images https://review.opendev.org/694270 | 12:02 |
openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/stein: Fix keystone fernet rotation for source images https://review.opendev.org/694271 | 12:02 |
openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/rocky: Fix keystone fernet rotation for source images https://review.opendev.org/694272 | 12:02 |
openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/rocky: Collect rabbitmq logs by fluentd https://review.opendev.org/694275 | 12:06 |
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openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Attempt to pull image before stopping and removing container https://review.opendev.org/694278 | 12:14 |
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openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Attempt to pull image before stopping and removing container https://review.opendev.org/694278 | 12:52 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kayobe stable/queens: Fix kolla ansible virtualenv creation on the seed https://review.opendev.org/694226 | 12:53 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla master: CI: Remove collectd roles https://review.opendev.org/693803 | 13:12 |
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openstackgerrit | Marcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: CI/Debian: Push images after building https://review.opendev.org/694243 | 13:24 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add support for custom HAProxy service config https://review.opendev.org/693738 | 13:30 |
openstackgerrit | Keith Plant proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/train: Add support for custom HAProxy service config https://review.opendev.org/694293 | 13:34 |
openstackgerrit | Keith Plant proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/stein: Add support for custom HAProxy service config https://review.opendev.org/694294 | 13:34 |
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openstackgerrit | Zdenek Dvorak proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/rocky: Patch to fix RPC selection problem after upgrade https://review.opendev.org/693505 | 14:03 |
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openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: CI/Debian: Push images after building https://review.opendev.org/694243 | 14:13 |
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mnasiadka | yoctozepto: if we plan to remove opendaylight and onos I might do this in the process of adding OVN | 14:18 |
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openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kayobe master: Support installing packages in IPA images https://review.opendev.org/694310 | 14:28 |
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watersj | Hi, have strange issue where my vxlan is bouncing between 2 of my networking nodes. This seems to cause strange ssh session drops in instances and other interesting networking issues. | 14:36 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kayobe stable/stein: Only set up the kolla ansible venv on hosts in the kolla ansible inventory https://review.opendev.org/692824 | 14:37 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kayobe stable/stein: Fix kolla ansible virtualenv creation on the seed https://review.opendev.org/694220 | 14:37 |
mnasiadka | watersj: vxlan is bouncing? like l2 network bouncing? or is there a router involved? | 14:47 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Remove enable_xtrabackup variable https://review.opendev.org/694258 | 14:50 |
watersj | mnasiadka, my network is tied to a router to get traffic out of the private lan | 14:56 |
watersj | if that i what you are asking | 14:56 |
mnasiadka | I'm asking what is bouncing between your two network nodes :) | 14:57 |
watersj | from dmesgs its says vxlan-46: fa:16:3e:3f:09:a7 migrated from 10.1.155.44 to 10.1.155.42 | 14:57 |
watersj | and it does this every 2-15minutes or so | 14:57 |
watersj | i would think it would only jump if node or neutron containers crashed | 15:00 |
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yoctozepto | mnasiadka: sure, you remember the split I had in mind? the server/agent/ml2 config split stuff | 15:03 |
yoctozepto | if you do it, it will be easier/cleaner to implement ovn too | 15:03 |
yoctozepto | I think even if you do it, it's best to be a separate change | 15:04 |
mnasiadka | you want to split neutron.conf for agents and neutron.conf for neutron-server? | 15:04 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kayobe stable/rocky: Only set up the kolla ansible venv on hosts in the kolla ansible inventory https://review.opendev.org/692825 | 15:04 |
yoctozepto | mnasiadka: now ml2 conf is for all agents and neutron-server | 15:04 |
yoctozepto | which makes it ugly | 15:04 |
yoctozepto | so yeah, that's more-or-less what I have in mind | 15:05 |
yoctozepto | you probably remember the kind comment with "don't remove the next blank line" | 15:05 |
yoctozepto | "or else we are doomed" | 15:05 |
yoctozepto | this is a part of that | 15:05 |
yoctozepto | {# NOTE: newline above is required for correct config generation. Do not remove. #} | 15:06 |
yoctozepto | xD | 15:06 |
kplant | is this a fluke CI failure https://review.opendev.org/#/c/694294/ ? | 15:06 |
patchbot | patch 694294 - kolla-ansible (stable/stein) - Add support for custom HAProxy service config - 1 patch set | 15:07 |
kplant | i don't see why that would pass for everything but kolla-ansible-centos-source-upgrade when it passed all for master | 15:07 |
openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Attempt to pull image before stopping and removing container https://review.opendev.org/694278 | 15:08 |
yoctozepto | kplant: fluke | 15:09 |
yoctozepto | do a recheck | 15:10 |
kplant | i can just reply with "recheck" right? | 15:11 |
hrw | yep | 15:12 |
kplant | ty | 15:12 |
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numans_ | yoctozepto, Hi, when ever you get some time can you please take a look at this - https://review.opendev.org/#/c/691507/ | 15:21 |
patchbot | patch 691507 - kolla - Use ovn-ctl script to start OVN ovsdb-servers - 7 patch sets | 15:21 |
yoctozepto | numans_: done | 15:24 |
numans_ | yoctozepto, Thank you | 15:25 |
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yoctozepto | numans_: still, there was an extra line :D | 15:26 |
numans_ | yoctozepto, oops. | 15:26 |
yoctozepto | but let's not waste CI resources, can be removed any time later | 15:26 |
numans_ | yoctozepto, ack. in case we need to change anything in ovn I will remember to update this | 15:27 |
yoctozepto | numans_: you made up your mind as if it's ussuri only or train? | 15:27 |
yoctozepto | thanks | 15:27 |
numans_ | yoctozepto, I checked with Daniel (networking-ovn core) and I think it may be required in train as well | 15:28 |
yoctozepto | kplant: "recheck" plus your favorite swear words :D | 15:28 |
yoctozepto | numans_: ok, I guess nothing really holds us back, especially if we handle this pre-release | 15:28 |
kplant | jebem ti mamu, recheck! | 15:28 |
numans_ | yoctozepto, ok. Once this patch is merged, I will submit to train as well. | 15:28 |
kplant | or is it "^recheck" lol | 15:28 |
yoctozepto | kplant: slovenian? | 15:28 |
numans_ | thank you | 15:28 |
kplant | russian | 15:29 |
kplant | just up on my slang of fellow nations :D | 15:29 |
yoctozepto | ah, always weird without cyrillic | 15:29 |
yoctozepto | xD | 15:29 |
kplant | oh no, the language isn't russian | 15:29 |
kplant | i thought you were asking if i was slovenian | 15:29 |
yoctozepto | ah | 15:29 |
yoctozepto | :D | 15:29 |
kplant | yeah it's slovenian | 15:29 |
kplant | i think it works in sebian too | 15:29 |
yoctozepto | :D | 15:29 |
kplant | serbian** | 15:30 |
yoctozepto | yeah, it sounds southern slavic | 15:30 |
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mnasiadka | yoctozepto: well, ml2_conf.ini is really small, to chopping it to multiple bits is not gonna make it better, unless we just want to add if/else statements based on service for which this is templated | 15:30 |
mnasiadka | neutron.conf might be a hog, sure ;) | 15:31 |
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yoctozepto | mnasiadka: but neutron.conf has simpler nesting | 15:31 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kayobe stable/rocky: Fix kolla ansible virtualenv creation on the seed https://review.opendev.org/694224 | 15:31 |
yoctozepto | ml2_conf is not long, but hard to follow all branches | 15:31 |
openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kayobe master: Add reference to zero touch provisioning blog in docs https://review.opendev.org/693532 | 15:32 |
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yoctozepto | so it has this hidden complexity completely needlessly | 15:32 |
hrw | kplant: syntax is "recheck CURSEWORD", not vice versa | 15:32 |
kplant | does the severity of the curse word match up to the speed at which ci runs? | 15:32 |
yoctozepto | I usually do "recheck\n\nexplanation" | 15:32 |
yoctozepto | kplant: not tested | 15:33 |
yoctozepto | could be | 15:33 |
yoctozepto | ask infra | 15:33 |
mnasiadka | yoctozepto: maybe it's just written in complicated manner and we could make it more readable :) | 15:33 |
yoctozepto | mnasiadka: no need to lie to oneself that neutron-server needs to know bridge config :-) | 15:34 |
yoctozepto | the config just does not belong there | 15:34 |
yoctozepto | believe me, you are going to be healthier if you split it | 15:35 |
mnasiadka | maybe, question how many things we will break :) | 15:35 |
yoctozepto | mnasiadka: enough to be proud | 15:35 |
yoctozepto | your argument is invalid - you could deny any change this way ;-) | 15:36 |
mnasiadka | haha | 15:36 |
mnasiadka | well, let's first remove odl | 15:36 |
mnasiadka | and onos | 15:36 |
mnasiadka | so then we have two normal backends, and the vmware ones | 15:37 |
mnasiadka | wonder if vmware works at all ;) | 15:37 |
hrw | nsx? | 15:38 |
kplant | ^ that's a curseword | 15:38 |
yoctozepto | xD | 15:38 |
yoctozepto | is nsx available for evaluation/testing? | 15:39 |
yoctozepto | hmm, nope, only their labs | 15:40 |
yoctozepto | so no way to tell for me | 15:40 |
generalfuzz | yoctozepto: when you have a chance, can you please take a look at https://review.opendev.org/#/c/686024/ | 15:42 |
patchbot | patch 686024 - kolla-ansible - Custom CA certificates deployment - 15 patch sets | 15:42 |
yoctozepto | generalfuzz: it's pretty fat but i'll try tomorrow | 15:43 |
generalfuzz | thanks thanks | 15:43 |
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mnasiadka | hrw: nsx, nsxv3 and dvs - we have three drivers | 15:44 |
yoctozepto | mnasiadka: wonder about neutrno support | 15:45 |
yoctozepto | could help checking the projects repos | 15:45 |
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mnasiadka | yoctozepto: it works, I used it years ago - I don't know if they are ,,vibrant'', but still VMware has it's OpenStack distro (VIO), so they can't just dump it :) | 15:46 |
hrw | bye | 15:46 |
yoctozepto | mnasiadka: *cough* suse *cough* | 15:47 |
yoctozepto | mnasiadka: I think follow mgoddard's example and ask the ml | 15:49 |
yoctozepto | maybe we get at least some insight into their liveness | 15:49 |
mnasiadka | yoctozepto: suse hasn't dumped their old support contracts :) | 15:50 |
yoctozepto | mnasiadka: ussuri is not in the support contract :-) | 15:50 |
mnasiadka | yoctozepto: I have better means than asking the ML - I can ask people from VMware ;) | 15:50 |
yoctozepto | mnasiadka: I think do both ways :-) | 15:50 |
yoctozepto | you worked for them? | 15:50 |
yoctozepto | or just happen to know insiders? | 15:50 |
yoctozepto | also, I heard linuxbridge is being deprecated in neutron | 15:51 |
yoctozepto | so we might deprecate that paralelly to them | 15:51 |
yoctozepto | obviously NOT in train | 15:51 |
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mnasiadka | yoctozepto: I worked too much with VMware when did years in the IBM prison ;) | 15:52 |
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kplant | all of charter was vmware when i got here | 15:52 |
kplant | took years to convince them to start ditching that poison | 15:53 |
kplant | i've at least got my BU moving to openstack with kvm | 15:53 |
mnasiadka | kplant: well, in IBM you couldn't convince anybody ;) | 15:53 |
yoctozepto | the first time at uni we bought vmware essentials, soon regretted being so limited that standalone kvms were more flexible ;-) | 15:53 |
kplant | it's just such a pile | 15:54 |
kplant | it annoys me that it has such a large market share | 15:54 |
yoctozepto | kplant: it annoys me ppl deploy vmware in azure | 15:55 |
kplant | yeah.... | 15:55 |
kplant | aws too | 15:55 |
yoctozepto | that was rotfl first time I heard, thought it was a joke | 15:55 |
yoctozepto | but no | 15:55 |
mnasiadka | yoctozepto: people deploy vmware in AWS, Google and IBM Cloud | 15:55 |
kplant | that way both the cloud provider AND vmware can take your money | 15:55 |
yoctozepto | vmware poisoned business heads | 15:55 |
yoctozepto | mnasiadka: yeah, first time I head on azure, then realized we are already doomed | 15:56 |
mnasiadka | well, if you have too much money and don't want to hire smart people, then you are using vmware :) | 15:56 |
kplant | ^ | 15:56 |
kplant | then you pay your "vmware techs" who all they do is wait for an alert and call TAC | 15:56 |
kplant | but don't actually know how to do anything | 15:57 |
kplant | honestly you don't even need to be smart anymore to deploy not-vmware anymore | 15:57 |
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yoctozepto | kplant: too much "anymore" :D | 16:09 |
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kplant | yeah i noticed as soon as i hit enter | 16:17 |
kplant | hoping nobody would notice | 16:17 |
openstackgerrit | Doug Szumski proposed openstack/kolla master: Add Elasticsearch Curator Docker image https://review.opendev.org/694341 | 16:17 |
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yoctozepto | mnasiadka: the only issues in k/k-a that reference vmware networking | 16:19 |
yoctozepto | https://bugs.launchpad.net/kolla-ansible/+bug/1736410 | 16:19 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1736410 in kolla-ansible "DVS neutron dhcp_agent fail to start" [Undecided,Fix released] | 16:19 |
yoctozepto | https://bugs.launchpad.net/kolla-ansible/+bug/1711576 | 16:19 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1711576 in kolla-ansible "VMware LBaaS and VPNaaS config file issues" [Undecided,Fix released] | 16:19 |
yoctozepto | quite a long time ago | 16:19 |
yoctozepto | kplant: /me notices | 16:20 |
yoctozepto | hmph, gate broken due to unstable mirrors | 16:21 |
mnasiadka | yoctozepto the deprecator :) | 16:22 |
yoctozepto | mnasiadka: someone has to do it :-) | 16:22 |
yoctozepto | especially if ppl wanting vmware nsx at least can really use overrides to get the same | 16:22 |
yoctozepto | or even better consider our lack of knowledge and support | 16:23 |
yoctozepto | dvs looks a tad bit more complicated but still... | 16:23 |
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yoctozepto | # Valid options are [ openvswitch, linuxbridge, vmware_nsxv, vmware_nsxv3, vmware_dvs, opendaylight ] | 16:26 |
yoctozepto | neutron_plugin_agent: "openvswitch" | 16:26 |
yoctozepto | so it looks like we might end up with openvswitch | 16:26 |
yoctozepto | wonder where onos went in ther | 16:26 |
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yoctozepto | ah, it just needs openvswitch there, and onos somewhere else | 16:30 |
yoctozepto | the less documented, the more cryptic | 16:30 |
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yoctozepto | mnasiadka: https://bugs.launchpad.net/kolla-ansible/+bug/1850763 I provided a summary ;p | 16:39 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1850763 in kolla-ansible "onos_ml2 mechanism driver not found when we are trying to deploy onos with kolla ansible " [Undecided,Opinion] | 16:39 |
mnasiadka | Lol | 16:39 |
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yoctozepto | mnasiadka: still wonder why add to Rocky if ocata was the last release I can see ? | 16:43 |
mnasiadka | yoctozepto: I have no clue, time to deprecate :) | 16:44 |
yoctozepto | mnasiadka: https://tarballs.openstack.org/networking-onos/networking-onos-2.0.0.tar.gz | 16:45 |
yoctozepto | not really available though | 16:45 |
yoctozepto | so it seems the only available is from Juno lol | 16:45 |
yoctozepto | oh what a mess | 16:45 |
mnasiadka | yoctozepto: change to deprecate raised? | 16:46 |
openstackgerrit | Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/train: Deprecate ONOS https://review.opendev.org/694354 | 16:49 |
yoctozepto | mnasiadka: ^ | 16:49 |
mnasiadka | Good, tomorrow we can remove :) | 16:49 |
yoctozepto | we should really remove it already but policy kind-of prevents it, eh | 16:50 |
yoctozepto | it's broken and that's it | 16:50 |
yoctozepto | # FIXED(jeffrey4l): UCA rocky release is not include python-vmware-nsx | 16:54 |
yoctozepto | # 13.0.0 package now. add 'python-vmware-nsx' into | 16:54 |
yoctozepto | # neutron_base_packages list after UCA fixed the issue. | 16:54 |
yoctozepto | heh, that much interest in vmware nsx | 16:54 |
yoctozepto | nsx is releasing sources fine though | 16:55 |
yoctozepto | https://opendev.org/x/vmware-nsx/commits/branch/master | 16:55 |
yoctozepto | by the looks of it, they still support 3 modes of this plugin | 16:59 |
yoctozepto | nsx/dvs/nsxv3 | 16:59 |
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kplant | i don't want to load up CI with crap jobs, should i recheck this again? https://review.opendev.org/#/c/694294/1 | 18:02 |
patchbot | patch 694294 - kolla-ansible (stable/stein) - Add support for custom HAProxy service config - 1 patch set | 18:02 |
kplant | it merged into master and stable/train already | 18:02 |
kplant | and there's no difference on stable/stein that should stop that | 18:03 |
kplant | well didn't merge into train yet but passed CI | 18:03 |
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watersj | is there a know issue with overiding network interfaces in multinode (hosts) file for compute nodes only? | 19:08 |
watersj | unfortunately controlling device names for this 1 test is not controllable | 19:09 |
watersj | nvm, i see error of my ways | 19:21 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla master: Use ovn-ctl script to start OVN ovsdb-servers https://review.opendev.org/691507 | 20:29 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla master: Revert "Move to RDO Train packages" https://review.opendev.org/694054 | 21:42 |
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