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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kayobe master: Add support for stopping overcloud services https://review.opendev.org/715194 | 00:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kayobe master: Avoid writing out requirements.txt in kolla-ansible role https://review.opendev.org/707853 | 00:50 |
| openstackgerrit | James Kirsch proposed openstack/kolla master: Add stunnel container for Glance service https://review.opendev.org/720850 | 00:54 |
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| srin | I installed kolla-ansible on centos 8 a week ago and I got errors about yum install python2, but vanilla minimal centos8 hasn't python2 package so I cannot install it | 01:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jeffrey Zhang proposed openstack/kolla stable/queens: nova-libvirt: add UEFI packages to support UEFI instances https://review.opendev.org/721764 | 01:46 |
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| srin | oh I misunderstanded | 02:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | ya.wang proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/train: Fix that cyborg conductor failed to communicate with placement https://review.opendev.org/721770 | 02:47 |
| openstackgerrit | ya.wang proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Fix that cyborg agent failed to start privsep daemon. https://review.opendev.org/721139 | 02:59 |
| srin | is master removed supports about installing ceph? | 03:01 |
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| mnasiadka | sri_: yes | 05:47 |
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| sri_ | morning, mnasiadka | 06:03 |
| sri_ | srin: ^^ | 06:03 |
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| yoctozepto | dcapone2004: yes, must be from git atm | 06:43 |
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| hrw | morning | 07:01 |
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| openstackgerrit | Marcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/kolla master: use Ansible 2.9+ binary packages https://review.opendev.org/721251 | 07:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Marcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/kolla master: kolla-toolbox: use only binary packages https://review.opendev.org/721252 | 07:08 |
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| hrw | rebased | 07:08 |
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| born2bake | just letting you know guys that this issue related to kvm permissions happens when you build images, in my case amphora,trove images, on that host | 07:16 |
| born2bake | I assume that kvm, qemu and etc are installed on the host and they somehow cant properly work together with libvirt docker container | 07:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Marcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/kolla master: kolla-toolbox: use only binary packages https://review.opendev.org/721252 | 07:17 |
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| hrw | mgoddard: your comments were valuable. applied changes, added reno | 07:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Marcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Drop handling of 'easy_install' https://review.opendev.org/721290 | 07:28 |
| hrw | rebased | 07:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Fix that cyborg agent failed to start privsep daemon. https://review.opendev.org/721139 | 07:35 |
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| mgoddard | thanks hrw :) | 07:50 |
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| mgoddard | morning | 07:50 |
| mgoddard | I'll be out until the meeting today | 07:50 |
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| hrw | mgoddard: c8/train will see update later today | 07:51 |
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| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: btw, did you notice wsrep problems are extremely rare nowadays? | 08:03 |
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| dswebb | morning all, just a quick q / potential bug report. The decision to run ovs 2.12 in the train deployment, is that something that comes from upstream (eg neutron project) or internally within kolla? Our experience with kollas train deployment and ovs 2.12 has been riddled with issues (show stopper type issues). Once we downgraded to 2.11 for ovs_vswitchd all of our problems went away. | 08:10 |
| yoctozepto | dswebb: upstream (distro) | 08:16 |
| yoctozepto | what are the issues? distros should know them | 08:17 |
| dswebb | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1782834, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openvswitch/+bug/1852221 | 08:17 |
| openstack | bugzilla.redhat.com bug 1782834 in openvswitch "Changing protocols in Bridge table doesn't take effect" [High,New] - Assigned to aconole | 08:17 |
| yoctozepto | (and obviously it works for us (TM) ) | 08:17 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1852221 in openvswitch (Ubuntu) "ovsdb-server needs to be restarted after adding protocols to bridges" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 08:17 |
| yoctozepto | so distros know it | 08:19 |
| yoctozepto | hmm, why not fix ovsdb-server, I see canonical charm team is doing some huge workaround for it, lol | 08:19 |
| yoctozepto | dswebb: thanks for the heads up | 08:20 |
| yoctozepto | dswebb: did you manage to get this issue with kolla-ansible? | 08:20 |
| dswebb | those two showed up in our deployment, but the main issue we had (we patched those with with the upstream patch from master for neutron). but the main issue we kept hitting was weird OVS issues where security group rules on an instance with a floating ips just not working really. | 08:20 |
| yoctozepto | was it new deployment or upgrade? | 08:21 |
| dswebb | yes, new deployment | 08:21 |
| yoctozepto | hmm | 08:21 |
| mnasiadka | yoctozepto: didn't have time in couple of last days to check up anything in kolla | 08:21 |
| dswebb | we completely re-deployed last week | 08:21 |
| dswebb | the ovs SG issue was almost like ovs was failing closed, but without any sort of RMQ communication issues or anything like that | 08:23 |
| yoctozepto | dswebb: well, ovs doesn't speak rmq | 08:25 |
| yoctozepto | it's neutron agent that would | 08:25 |
| dswebb | yeah, that is what I meant, there were no communication issues from the agent that I could see | 08:25 |
| yoctozepto | dswebb: I marked the launchpad's bug for kolla too | 08:25 |
| dswebb | cool | 08:25 |
| yoctozepto | dswebb: so these two are the same | 08:25 |
| dswebb | yes | 08:25 |
| yoctozepto | dswebb: and is the other one you are speaking of reported somewhere? | 08:26 |
| yoctozepto | would be good to include it in that bug report, since it's still 2.12 regression | 08:26 |
| dswebb | no, we can raise it, would it go to neutron bug report | 08:27 |
| dswebb | ? | 08:27 |
| dswebb | also, the fix for the version mismatch issue is here: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/698715/9 | 08:27 |
| patchbot | patch 698715 - neutron - Set OpenFlow 1.0, 1.3 and 1.4 by default on bridges (MERGED) - 9 patch sets | 08:27 |
| cosmicsound | good day | 08:28 |
| cosmicsound | https://bugs.launchpad.net/kolla/+bug/1874129 any idea what could cause this? | 08:31 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1874129 in kolla "cloudkitty zombie processes" [Undecided,New] | 08:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michal Nasiadka proposed openstack/kolla master: Add mariadb_clustercheck image https://review.opendev.org/710217 | 08:46 |
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| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: we are not using upstream mariadb in c8 now? | 09:11 |
| yoctozepto | feeling confused | 09:11 |
| mnasiadka | yoctozepto: no, I think only in Ubuntu? | 09:11 |
| yoctozepto | dswebb: yes, as long as it is 2.12-related | 09:11 |
| yoctozepto | dswebb: it's more like workaround, neutron wishes to revert it | 09:11 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: crap | 09:11 |
| yoctozepto | (sorry for language) | 09:12 |
| mnasiadka | https://github.com/openstack/kolla/blob/master/docker/base/sources.list.ubuntu#L51 | 09:12 |
| mnasiadka | yoctozepto: ^^ | 09:12 |
| yoctozepto | https://ethercalc.openstack.org/kolla-infra-service-matrix looks gone argh | 09:14 |
| yoctozepto | ubuntu is 10.3 mariadb upstream | 09:14 |
| yoctozepto | debian is 10.3 mariadb distro (buster) | 09:14 |
| yoctozepto | c8 is 10.3 mariadb distro (c8 stream current) | 09:16 |
| yoctozepto | I wonder if they move | 09:16 |
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| yoctozepto | so focal in victoria will move us up to 10.4, hmm | 09:19 |
| yoctozepto | anyways, these look pretty stable, as they are not revamping galera | 09:20 |
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| hrw | speaking of stuff... | 09:27 |
| hrw | as we are now at rmq 3.8 in ussuri I would like to move centos8 to use in-distro version of erlang and rabbitmq | 09:27 |
| hrw | for x86-64 and ppc64le it will give us rmq 3.8 version and erlang 22 | 09:28 |
| hrw | aarch64 has to wait for centos 8.2 | 09:28 |
| born2bake | yoctozepto just letting you know that this issue related to kvm permissions happens when you build images, in my case amphora,trove images, on the same host where you run compute. I assume that kvm, qemu and etc are installed on the host and they somehow cant properly work together with libvirt docker container | 09:29 |
| yoctozepto | born2bake: qemu is together with libvirt in the container | 09:30 |
| yoctozepto | born2bake: kvm is part of kernel | 09:30 |
| yoctozepto | but this is a good hint | 09:30 |
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| yoctozepto | maybe something reconfigures something | 09:31 |
| born2bake | not sure but I checked twice. Create instances - all good. Build amphora/trove images on the host. Create instances again - error. | 09:32 |
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| yoctozepto | born2bake: btw, what does the building? external programs? | 09:36 |
| born2bake | https://docs.openstack.org/octavia/latest/admin/amphora-image-build.html | 09:38 |
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| yoctozepto | born2bake: uhm, so you did those instructions on host level? | 09:39 |
| born2bake | yup | 09:39 |
| yoctozepto | hmm, there is a chance it somehow hijacked the kvm device | 09:41 |
| yoctozepto | makes sense to add it to the report | 09:41 |
| yoctozepto | hrw: I think it makes sense; we wanted 3.8 for prometheus and to get better ipv6 | 09:43 |
| yoctozepto | so it's what it is | 09:43 |
| hrw | yoctozepto: c8/aarch64 will stay broken for a while | 09:43 |
| yoctozepto | my dream is to be able to drop rabbitmq but it is not happenning any time soon ;p | 09:43 |
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| hrw | yoctozepto: as we need centos 8.2 to get erlang on aarch64 | 09:44 |
| yoctozepto | hrw: define 'a while' | 09:44 |
| yoctozepto | is it going to take months or days | 09:44 |
| hrw | yoctozepto: it is broken already | 09:44 |
| yoctozepto | hrw: then why ask | 09:44 |
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| hrw | anyway it was useless question ;D | 09:46 |
| hrw | on c8 we use delorean repos. they depend on rmq38 repo from centos already | 09:46 |
| hrw | so my change just enables that repo officially. | 09:46 |
| openstackgerrit | Nick Jones proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: [skydive] fix: Use Keystone backend to authenticate API users https://review.opendev.org/717596 | 09:46 |
| hrw | rabbitmq/erlang ones we have defined are not used at all | 09:47 |
| yoctozepto | ok | 09:48 |
| osmanlicilegi | morning | 09:49 |
| hrw | hi osmanlicilegi | 09:49 |
| osmanlicilegi | how's going folks | 09:49 |
| hrw | osmanlicilegi: life sucks | 09:50 |
| osmanlicilegi | agree | 09:50 |
| hrw | hopefully then you die ;) | 09:51 |
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| yoctozepto | https://bugs.launchpad.net/kolla-ansible/+bug/1874218 | 09:54 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1874218 in kolla-ansible "swift sanity checks broken" [Low,Triaged] | 09:54 |
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| yoctozepto | so users tried enabling those lovely sanity checks | 09:54 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard, mnasiadka: deprecate (remove) sanity checks? | 09:55 |
| openstackgerrit | Marcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/kolla master: use Ansible 2.9+ binary packages https://review.opendev.org/721251 | 09:55 |
| hrw | yoctozepto: disabled now | 09:55 |
| osmanlicilegi | hrw: today I have another topic which sucks too. it's surveys. I learned that we can get rich by stopping working for OpenStack and starting to do something related with surveys. people spend tens of dollars to ask more than 10 questions to people. | 09:57 |
| osmanlicilegi | here is the topic for todays meeting: https://ethercalc.openstack.org/46c7q4lnww6j | 09:57 |
| yoctozepto | hrw: ++ | 09:58 |
| hrw | osmanlicilegi: we can also go and burn some 5G towers! | 09:58 |
| osmanlicilegi | aha good idea. let's occupy 5g! | 09:59 |
| hrw | I wonder how many neighbours noticed 'Testing 5G station' wifi network | 09:59 |
| yoctozepto | hrw: they died already | 09:59 |
| yoctozepto | cancer, autism and covid-19 | 09:59 |
| yoctozepto | AT ONCE | 09:59 |
| * osmanlicilegi brb | 10:00 | |
| openstackgerrit | Marcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/kolla master: CentOS: use RabbitMQ and Erlang from official repos https://review.opendev.org/721800 | 10:02 |
| hrw | read commit message please | 10:02 |
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| hrw | there are some other c8/aarch64 failures | 10:15 |
| hrw | will work on them but first need some centos-release-* files (in progress) | 10:15 |
| mnasiadka | yoctozepto: deprecate swift :) | 10:22 |
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| born2bake | When creating multiple instances with volume, volume takes ages to create/stuck at downloading state. Thus, instances fail with error timeout msg. If I create 1 volume manually, there is no issues. | 10:41 |
| born2bake | can someone suggest where to dig | 10:41 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Drop handling of 'easy_install' https://review.opendev.org/721290 | 10:48 |
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| hrw | c8/train gets closer | 11:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | Marcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/kolla stable/train: [WIP] switch to official CentOS 8 repositories https://review.opendev.org/721329 | 12:10 |
| hrw | all images built. | 12:11 |
| hrw | still WIP as we wait for centos-release-* packages | 12:11 |
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| sorin-mihai | for a deployment on a network with jumbo frames, is there anything that needs to be done? documentation is not clear for me regarding this. i can set the MTU on the VIP interface, but not on the other one, is that bein taken care by neutron somehow? | 12:20 |
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| yoctozepto | sorin-mihai: you might want to tinker with [DEFAULT]\global_physnet_mtu in neutron | 12:27 |
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| sorin-mihai | based on openstack documentation, i guess it should go in /etc/kolla/config/neutron/{config.json,ml2_conf.ini} ? | 12:32 |
| sorin-mihai | what about the docker daemon, does it need to be adjusted as well? | 12:33 |
| kplant | /etc/kolla/config/neutron.conf for [DEFAULT]/global_physnet_mtu | 12:33 |
| kplant | and /etc/kolla/config/neutron/ml2_conf.ini for [ml2]/path_mtu | 12:34 |
| kplant | that, and the physical interfaces ofc, is all you have to change | 12:34 |
| yoctozepto | ^ and path_mtu defaults to global_physnet_mtu | 12:34 |
| yoctozepto | so no need to change both | 12:34 |
| yoctozepto | in fact, you can limit this to neutron-server most likely, as it dictates network mtus | 12:35 |
| yoctozepto | so /etc/kolla/config/neutron/neutron-server.conf would be minimal impact | 12:35 |
| yoctozepto | we use host networking so docker is not to be touched | 12:35 |
| hrw | how many of you do builds with separate logs? | 12:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kayobe master: Fix seed VM provisioning on a remote seed hypervisor https://review.opendev.org/718518 | 12:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Marcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/kolla master: Do not try to build skipped/unbuildable images https://review.opendev.org/721847 | 12:41 |
| hrw | say goodbye to 'skipped' logs | 12:41 |
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| sorin-mihai | yoctozepto, thanks | 12:48 |
| sorin-mihai | and kplant ^_^ | 12:48 |
| kplant | yw | 12:51 |
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| hrw | mgoddard: as you use bifrost... can you patch it to not try to install debootstrap on c8? | 13:03 |
| hrw | mgoddard: last time it was present in centos was queens era - in cloud/openstack-queens/ repo | 13:03 |
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| mnasiadka | mgoddard: can't join todays meeting | 13:39 |
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| mnasiadka | finally, can I go home? :D | 13:39 |
| kplant | eye for an eye | 13:39 |
| mgoddard | mnasiadka: if you aren't home, where have you been? :) | 13:42 |
| mgoddard | hrw: debootstrap exists in epel on c8. We just need to enable it | 13:43 |
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| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: policy violation detected, initiating destruction processes | 13:44 |
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| yoctozepto | hrw: if you find some leisure time, it would be good to fill in https://ethercalc.openstack.org/kolla-infra-service-matrix :-) | 13:45 |
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| mgoddard | yoctozepto: that page would be more useful in docs | 13:52 |
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| osmanlicilegi | mgoddard: I have to skip today's meeting cause there will a lockdown here for the next 4 days. I need to visit pharmacy and market. You can find my survey tools comparison at https://ethercalc.openstack.org/46c7q4lnww6j. If there's anything missing for this task, just ping me. | 14:02 |
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| Fl1nt | good afternoon dear people of the chat ! | 14:10 |
| Fl1nt | question, does this warning: "If you are using ceph-ansible - please copy ceph.client.cinder.keyring as /etc/kolla/config/nova/ceph.client.nova.keyring" from https://docs.openstack.org/kolla-ansible/train/reference/storage/external-ceph-guide.html apply to any release of k-a with c-a ? If so, why do we still need a nova keyring ? | 14:13 |
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| Fl1nt | because for now, even if I copy the content of my ceph.client.cinder.keyring within ceph.client.nova.keyring I've got a ErrNO 13 Permission denied which is quite obvious as we try to connect() with the nova user. If we need to also adapt the rbd_user to cinder, then what's the point of having nova one still ? | 14:15 |
| Fl1nt | btw | 14:15 |
| Fl1nt | as ceph is smart enough to compare its username and id to what should be there | 14:15 |
| Fl1nt | if you don't fill the ceph.conf with [client.nova] keyring = <PATH> that won't work neither | 14:16 |
| mgoddard | thanks for doing that osmanlicilegi | 14:17 |
| Fl1nt | so, I'm a bit confuse at that moment because of that warning, any thoughts on this ? | 14:18 |
| Fl1nt | hum... and that commit completely blow the doc ^^ https://opendev.org/openstack/kolla-ansible/commit/a9fecc41a31749c97e89ba6b66c9c46714fa6da8 | 14:20 |
| Fl1nt | I'll try with that train patch | 14:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kayobe stable/train: Add support for stopping overcloud services https://review.opendev.org/721982 | 14:22 |
| mnasiadka | mgoddard: in the garage, my family can’t stand me working :) | 14:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kayobe stable/train: Fix seed VM provisioning on a remote seed hypervisor https://review.opendev.org/721983 | 14:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kayobe stable/stein: Fix seed VM provisioning on a remote seed hypervisor https://review.opendev.org/721984 | 14:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kayobe stable/rocky: Fix seed VM provisioning on a remote seed hypervisor https://review.opendev.org/721985 | 14:23 |
| hrw | mgoddard: ok | 14:31 |
| hrw | yoctozepto: debian and centos8 updated for train/ussuri | 14:38 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/train: CentOS 8: CI: Test CentOS 7 to 8 migration https://review.opendev.org/711601 | 14:47 |
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| mgoddard | meeting in 10 minutes | 14:50 |
| mgoddard | mgoddard mnasiadka hrw egonzalez yoctozepto rafaelweingartne cosmicsound osmanlicilegi ^ | 14:50 |
| hrw | ok | 14:51 |
| Fl1nt | I'm in ^^ | 14:52 |
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| yoctozepto | hrw: thx | 15:00 |
| mgoddard | #startmeeting kolla | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Apr 22 15:00:18 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mgoddard. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kolla' | 15:00 |
| mgoddard | #topic rollcall | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "rollcall (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:01 | |
| mgoddard | \o | 15:01 |
| yoctozepto | o/ | 15:01 |
| Fl1nt | noob question, what's rollcall ? | 15:01 |
| hrw | ~o~ | 15:01 |
| hrw | Fl1nt: 'who is here' | 15:01 |
| priteau | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roll_call | 15:02 |
| Fl1nt | oh ok | 15:02 |
| Fl1nt | o/ | 15:02 |
| priteau | "A taking of attendance as part of a meeting agenda" | 15:02 |
| Fl1nt | so ^^ | 15:02 |
| priteau | o/ | 15:02 |
| mgoddard | #topic announcements | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:03 | |
| mgoddard | #undo | 15:03 |
| headphoneJames | o/ | 15:03 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: #topic announcements | 15:03 |
| mgoddard | #topic agenda | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "agenda (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:03 | |
| mgoddard | * Roll-call | 15:03 |
| mgoddard | * Announcements | 15:03 |
| mgoddard | ** Proposed cross-project goal for Victoria: https://review.opendev.org/720107 | 15:03 |
| patchbot | patch 720107 - governance - goals: add container-images - 3 patch sets | 15:03 |
| mgoddard | ** Kolla builder next generation proposal: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-April/014255.html | 15:03 |
| mgoddard | * Review action items from last meeting | 15:03 |
| mgoddard | * CI status | 15:03 |
| mgoddard | * Kolla Klub https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-sig | 15:03 |
| mgoddard | ** Survey tools comparison https://ethercalc.openstack.org/46c7q4lnww6j | 15:03 |
| mgoddard | * Ussuri release planning (kayobe) | 15:03 |
| mgoddard | * Ussuri release planning (kolla & kolla ansible) | 15:03 |
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| mgoddard | * Virtual PTG | 15:03 |
| mgoddard | * Train release planning (centos 8) | 15:03 |
| mgoddard | * Announcements | 15:03 |
| mgoddard | #topic announcements | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:04 | |
| mgoddard | #info Proposed cross-project goal for Victoria on container images | 15:04 |
| mgoddard | #link https://review.opendev.org/720107 | 15:04 |
| patchbot | patch 720107 - governance - goals: add container-images - 3 patch sets | 15:04 |
| mgoddard | Seems there could be some interesting outcomes from this | 15:05 |
| mgoddard | And some opening up to the potential of using kolla | 15:05 |
| yoctozepto | so this is mnaser's proposal that we could participate in as we have some relevant experience | 15:05 |
| yoctozepto | bindep is interesting to finally get nice | 15:05 |
| hrw | I decided to limit myself to read comments | 15:06 |
| mgoddard | right, although it's a long way from magically installing all your deps IMO | 15:06 |
| yoctozepto | actually sean-k-mooney has just written up something relevant to bindep on the ml, regarding the next announcement | 15:06 |
| yoctozepto | (as well) | 15:06 |
| mgoddard | #info Kolla builder next generation proposal | 15:06 |
| mgoddard | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-April/014255.html | 15:06 |
| mgoddard | Thanks yoctozepto for starting this conversation. I encourage people to get involved | 15:07 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: sure, I think we should do these kinds of things on ml from time to time, if not just to raise community awareness | 15:08 |
| mgoddard | #info OpenStack projects proposing RC1 releases this week | 15:08 |
| yoctozepto | (not kolla!) | 15:08 |
| cosmicsound | o/ | 15:09 |
| mgoddard | #info Kolla feature freeze next week | 15:09 |
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| yoctozepto | :O | 15:09 |
| mgoddard | yup | 15:09 |
| yoctozepto | :D | 15:09 |
| hrw | let me check what I have open... | 15:09 |
| mgoddard | ok, that's enough #info | 15:09 |
| mgoddard | Review action items from last meeting | 15:09 |
| * Fl1nt reading | 15:09 | |
| mgoddard | #topic Review action items from last meeting | 15:09 |
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| mgoddard | mgoddard to prepare project update for kolla klub | 15:10 |
| mgoddard | osmanlicilegi to adapt popularity-contest for kolla needs | 15:10 |
| mgoddard | osmanlicilegi to look into kolla klub survey/poll | 15:10 |
| mgoddard | mgoddard to read PTG emails and request slots | 15:10 |
| mgoddard | hrw to switch kolla centos 8 train from delorean to centos-release-openstack-train | 15:10 |
| mgoddard | we will find out if I have done mine tomorrow | 15:10 |
| mgoddard | I haven't requested PTG slots yet, but did put a proposal on the mailing list | 15:10 |
| hrw | https://review.opendev.org/721329 does my part. We are waiting for centos-release-* packages (on a way). | 15:10 |
| patchbot | patch 721329 - kolla (stable/train) - [WIP] switch to official CentOS 8 repositories - 3 patch sets | 15:10 |
| mgoddard | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-April/014174.html | 15:11 |
| hrw | all images build fine. | 15:11 |
| mgoddard | thanks | 15:11 |
| mgoddard | osmanlicilegi did his, but can't attend the meeting | 15:11 |
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| yoctozepto | yeah, thanks osmanlicilegi! | 15:11 |
| mgoddard | #action mgoddard to sign up for PTG slots | 15:11 |
| yoctozepto | nice summary there | 15:11 |
| hrw | 16:02 < osmanlicilegi> mgoddard: I have to skip today's meeting cause there will a lockdown here for the next 4 days. I need to visit pharmacy and market. You can find my survey tools comparison at https://ethercalc.openstack.org/46c7q4lnww6j. If there's anything missing for this task, just ping me. | 15:12 |
| yoctozepto | #link https://ethercalc.openstack.org/46c7q4lnww6j | 15:12 |
| mgoddard | #topic CI status | 15:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "CI status (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:12 | |
| hrw | c8/aarch64 is RED due to lack of erlang | 15:13 |
| openstackgerrit | James Kirsch proposed openstack/kolla master: Add stunnel container for Glance service https://review.opendev.org/720850 | 15:13 |
| hrw | both train and ussuri. we have to wait for CentOS 8.2 ;( | 15:13 |
| yoctozepto | otherwise pretty green | 15:14 |
| mgoddard | hrw: can you mark the rabbitmq image as unbuildable until then so we're green? | 15:14 |
| mgoddard | then at least we can catch regressions | 15:14 |
| hrw | mgoddard: kolla-toolbox is red too :( | 15:14 |
| hrw | mgoddard: ok | 15:14 |
| mgoddard | #action hrw mark rabbitmq and kolla-toolbox unbuildable for c8/aarch64 | 15:15 |
| mgoddard | #topic Kolla Klub https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-sig | 15:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Kolla Klub https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-sig (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:15 | |
| mgoddard | Meeting tomorrow, 1500 UTC | 15:15 |
| mgoddard | I'll give a project update, and we can feed back about surveys | 15:16 |
| mgoddard | #topic Survey tools comparison https://ethercalc.openstack.org/46c7q4lnww6j | 15:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Survey tools comparison https://ethercalc.openstack.org/46c7q4lnww6j (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:16 | |
| Fl1nt | We should also | 15:16 |
| yoctozepto | it's interesting to learn details on kolla usage too | 15:16 |
| mgoddard | indeed. I think some case studies would be nice | 15:17 |
| Fl1nt | have a little agenda for what we as a community expect from this klub | 15:17 |
| mgoddard | ideally I won't be presenting every session :) | 15:17 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: that would be regression! | 15:17 |
| yoctozepto | Fl1nt: yup, that discussion should be part of agenda | 15:18 |
| yoctozepto | the homework was to think about it | 15:18 |
| mgoddard | Fl1nt: I did try to ask last time, but didn't get too much response | 15:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Marcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/kolla master: No kolla-toolbox & rabbitmq for aarch64/centos8 https://review.opendev.org/721999 | 15:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Marcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/kolla master: Revert "No kolla-toolbox & rabbitmq for aarch64/centos8" https://review.opendev.org/722000 | 15:18 |
| mgoddard | feedback seemed to be 'not too much naval gazing - just get on with it' | 15:18 |
| Fl1nt | yep, unfortunately, I think, on my own part, that many operators wait for a more vivid community in terms of support channels. | 15:19 |
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| mgoddard | Agenda is here, feel free to add something: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EwQs2GXF-EvJZamEx9vQAOSDB5tCjsDCJyHQN5_4_Sw/edit#heading=h.u784zrqsv2k1 | 15:19 |
| Fl1nt | ok, I'll think about it. | 15:20 |
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| mgoddard | if it's something you want to drive, that might encourage others to get involved | 15:20 |
| mgoddard | ok, let's look at osmanlicilegi's results, since he put time into it | 15:20 |
| mgoddard | https://ethercalc.openstack.org/46c7q4lnww6j | 15:20 |
| yoctozepto | at the end of the day, google forms look the best | 15:21 |
| mgoddard | kolla klub agena item 1: | 15:21 |
| mgoddard | Survey tools survey results | 15:21 |
| yoctozepto | but I guess China cannot access them | 15:21 |
| mgoddard | yeah that's a shame | 15:23 |
| Fl1nt | yeah, such constraints definitely slowdown collaboration. | 15:23 |
| mgoddard | typeform seems nice, apart from the 10 question limit | 15:23 |
| Fl1nt | Can we achieve the survey in 10 questions? | 15:24 |
| mgoddard | It seems a bit low | 15:24 |
| yoctozepto | but maybe it fits | 15:25 |
| Fl1nt | Maybe the trick is to create multiple survey and explain that multiple strategy has we want to include and ease the discussion with everyone? So no one will complain about having multiple poll. | 15:25 |
| yoctozepto | we also need to consider multianswer and freeform parts | 15:25 |
| mgoddard | +1 | 15:25 |
| mgoddard | osmanlicilegi has some multi answer | 15:25 |
| yoctozepto | let's extend the calc for that | 15:26 |
| mgoddard | I don't see freeform though | 15:26 |
| mgoddard | IMO that would be one of the most valuable parts | 15:26 |
| hrw | Fl1nt: the problem is analizing results | 15:26 |
| Fl1nt | hum... 45€ for the professional plan, can't we pay for it ? | 15:27 |
| mgoddard | One thing I worry about with these surveys is how discoverable the data will be | 15:27 |
| Fl1nt | that's the killer feature of Google | 15:27 |
| mgoddard | I think at a minimum we need data export | 15:27 |
| mgoddard | but also we need to be able to host that somewhere | 15:28 |
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| yoctozepto | it would be nice to learn about osf's solution | 15:28 |
| Fl1nt | +1 | 15:28 |
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| mgoddard | I see a few uses for the results | 15:29 |
| mgoddard | 1. give the team a better picture of what people do and don't use | 15:29 |
| Fl1nt | you can connect typeform anserws to google sheets | 15:29 |
| mgoddard | 2. allow to connect up questions to sources of knowledge | 15:29 |
| mgoddard | a survey is probably quite good at 1., I don't know how well it serves 2 | 15:30 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: could you elaborate on 2.? | 15:30 |
| mgoddard | i.e. user comes in asking about storlets + kolla, who do we connect them to? | 15:31 |
| mgoddard | maybe I'm just thinking too siloed, and we should send them to #openstack-storlets | 15:31 |
| mgoddard | almost what I want is a social network :) | 15:32 |
| mgoddard | linkedin for openstack | 15:32 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: I was about to say "linkedin for kolla" | 15:32 |
| yoctozepto | but yeah | 15:32 |
| mgoddard | maybe it's a pipe dream | 15:32 |
| yoctozepto | you already know I'm a dreamer too, so you have my full support | 15:33 |
| mgoddard | I'd just like to avoid the problem that questions often go unanswered because not all experts read IRC, and when we send people to $project-channel it's often to /dev/null | 15:33 |
| yoctozepto | yeah, especially those least used ones | 15:33 |
| Fl1nt | yeah, exactly my point of why I suggested having discord, let's face it, nobody except old school devs/operators like us will use IRC, new comers to Openstack tends to be rather younger and have different tools/usage to communicate. | 15:33 |
| * osmanlicilegi is back after a quick shopping | 15:34 | |
| yoctozepto | osmanlicilegi: quick, huh? ;D | 15:34 |
| yoctozepto | probably after cilegi ;-) | 15:34 |
| mgoddard | Fl1nt: it's not just about the medium though, most people just don't want to consume the firehose | 15:34 |
| Fl1nt | honestly, kolla channel is for sure the most active one. | 15:34 |
| osmanlicilegi | yoctozepto: ;] | 15:35 |
| Fl1nt | sure, it was an exemple to support the fact that this community can't be based on either IRC or List. | 15:35 |
| mgoddard | maybe the answer is we should direct people to the mailing list more often | 15:35 |
| mgoddard | at least there people filter out threads | 15:35 |
| yoctozepto | just let's not talk ask.oo, it s... is not decent enough :-) | 15:35 |
| mgoddard | indeed | 15:35 |
| mgoddard | anyways, in terms of surveys | 15:36 |
| mgoddard | google forms is best, but limited | 15:36 |
| Fl1nt | if you ask you'll get 10000 answers of the form to use, if you build it and propose it, you'll get adoption if it fit. | 15:36 |
| mgoddard | is there a runner up to forms? | 15:36 |
| mgoddard | typeform? apart from 10 question limit | 15:37 |
| Fl1nt | yep typeform | 15:37 |
| mgoddard | osmanlicilegi: did any surveys offer freeform text? | 15:37 |
| yoctozepto | it feels tedious to fill in | 15:37 |
| yoctozepto | and has 100 answers limit monthly | 15:37 |
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| Fl1nt | typeform and surveymonkey.com are the both big names in that industry | 15:37 |
| Fl1nt | outside of google form I mean | 15:37 |
| osmanlicilegi | mgoddard: iirc all has freeform text support | 15:38 |
| mgoddard | I think 100 answers per month would be plenty yoctozepto! | 15:38 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: be a dreamer! ;p | 15:38 |
| osmanlicilegi | btw, typeform seems best after google forms if 10 questions is ok | 15:38 |
| Fl1nt | if 10 questions is your blocker, I'll subvention the typeform if necessary. | 15:39 |
| yoctozepto | seems so | 15:39 |
| yoctozepto | I don't like one q per page though | 15:39 |
| mgoddard | I think we should move on :) | 15:39 |
| yoctozepto | ++ | 15:39 |
| mgoddard | #topic Ussuri release planning (kayobe) | 15:39 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Ussuri release planning (kayobe) (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:39 | |
| Fl1nt | yep | 15:39 |
| mgoddard | priteau, dougsz, jovial[m] | 15:39 |
| osmanlicilegi | yoctozepto: typeform is customizable. one question per page can be my fault | 15:39 |
| yoctozepto | osmanlicilegi: would you drop a question to ml and osf about their framework for surveys? | 15:40 |
| mgoddard | If you didn't catch it earlier, feature freeze next week | 15:40 |
| yoctozepto | maybe someone responds | 15:40 |
| yoctozepto | osmanlicilegi: ack | 15:40 |
| yoctozepto | (now onto kayobe) | 15:40 |
| osmanlicilegi | yoctozepto: I will, today. | 15:40 |
| mgoddard | https://review.opendev.org/#/q/project:openstack/kayobe+branch:master+status:open | 15:40 |
| priteau | mgoddard: thanks for the reminder | 15:40 |
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| priteau | Lots of open patches :o | 15:40 |
| mgoddard | yep | 15:41 |
| mgoddard | quite a few +2'd or approved though | 15:41 |
| priteau | mnasiadka: are you planning to update https://review.opendev.org/#/c/709689/ to answer Mark's comments? | 15:41 |
| patchbot | patch 709689 - kayobe - Add framework to deploy user-defined containers on... - 11 patch sets | 15:41 |
| mgoddard | if anyone has time then adding a second +2 would help clear some | 15:42 |
| mgoddard | would be nice to get https://review.opendev.org/#/c/658815/ in but I don't know if I have time to test the migration | 15:42 |
| patchbot | patch 658815 - kayobe - WIP: Switch default docker storage driver to overlay2 - 2 patch sets | 15:42 |
| dking | For Kayboe, should cloud_vip_address be set for localhost? I'm receiving the error that kolla_internal_vip_address is not set for localhost. And if so, where's the right place to set that? | 15:43 |
| mgoddard | if someone else has time feel free to pick it up | 15:43 |
| mgoddard | dking: we're just in a meeting at the moment | 15:43 |
| mgoddard | dking: but you can set it in networks.yml | 15:43 |
| dking | Okay. Thank you. I'll probably try back in an hour or so, then. | 15:43 |
| mgoddard | dking: which is global for all hosts | 15:43 |
| mgoddard | any more for kayobe | 15:44 |
| mgoddard | ? | 15:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Fix that cyborg agent failed to start privsep daemon. https://review.opendev.org/721139 | 15:44 |
| mgoddard | #topic Ussuri release planning (kolla & kolla ansible) | 15:44 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Ussuri release planning (kolla & kolla ansible) (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:44 | |
| yoctozepto | all good | 15:45 |
| hrw | Debian packages partially available | 15:45 |
| mgoddard | added RP+1 to https://review.opendev.org/#/c/721632/1 | 15:46 |
| patchbot | patch 721632 - kolla-ansible - Add docs and release note for CentOS 8 - 1 patch set | 15:46 |
| hrw | for CentOS I wait for centos-release-* packages and will add some of them to cover RDO needs | 15:46 |
| hrw | rabbitmq/erlang are now in queue: https://review.opendev.org/721800 then advanced-virtualization and ceph-nautilus will follow | 15:46 |
| patchbot | patch 721800 - kolla - CentOS: use RabbitMQ and Erlang from official repos - 1 patch set | 15:46 |
| mgoddard | hrw: is that for train? | 15:46 |
| hrw | mgoddard: both train and ussuri | 15:47 |
| mgoddard | ok | 15:47 |
| hrw | mgoddard: only centos-release-openstack-{train,ussuri} will differ | 15:47 |
| mgoddard | we have a few tls backend patches in flight. Hopefully we can get them in | 15:48 |
| mgoddard | would be nice to do it for all services already using httpd, but getting late | 15:49 |
| hrw | I will add relnote to kolla/rmq patch for aarch64 to make it visible that c8/aarch64 is not part of initial release | 15:49 |
| mgoddard | ok, thanks | 15:49 |
| yoctozepto | https://review.opendev.org/707800 | 15:49 |
| patchbot | patch 707800 - kolla - [community goal]: Add contributor and PTL guide - 2 patch sets | 15:49 |
| yoctozepto | this needs some love | 15:49 |
| mgoddard | +1 | 15:50 |
| mgoddard | although not affected by freeze | 15:50 |
| mnasiadka | priteau: yes, tomorrow | 15:50 |
| mgoddard | #topic Virtual PTG | 15:51 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Virtual PTG (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:51 | |
| mgoddard | Do we have much to say on it? | 15:52 |
| mgoddard | We can gather topics in a few weeks I think | 15:52 |
| mgoddard | #topic Train release planning (centos 8) | 15:52 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Train release planning (centos 8) (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:52 | |
| hrw | as usual: this cycle summary, c8 summary, next cycle goals | 15:52 |
| hrw | train for C8 is splendid | 15:53 |
| hrw | we have all images buildable | 15:53 |
| mgoddard | I think this was just a request to make a release when train/c8 is ready? | 15:53 |
| hrw | yes | 15:53 |
| mgoddard | ok. If I backport the k-a docs/reno patch to train then I think we're ready for a release | 15:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Marcin Juszkiewicz proposed openstack/kolla master: No kolla-toolbox & rabbitmq for aarch64/centos8 https://review.opendev.org/721999 | 15:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible stable/train: Fix that cyborg conductor failed to communicate with placement https://review.opendev.org/721770 | 15:54 |
| hrw | added relnote | 15:55 |
| mgoddard | it should at least work for greenfield deploys. I'll do 7-8 migration docs separately to not block a releaase | 15:55 |
| hrw | ok | 15:55 |
| hrw | thanks | 15:55 |
| mgoddard | #topic Open discussion | 15:55 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:55 | |
| Fl1nt | Documentation question | 15:55 |
| Fl1nt | is rocky release considered as EOL ? | 15:55 |
| yoctozepto | Fl1nt: extended maintenance | 15:56 |
| yoctozepto | Fl1nt: we accept patches as lons as CI works (it works afaik) | 15:56 |
| yoctozepto | but do not really propose ourselves etc. | 15:56 |
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| Fl1nt | because the k-a with external ceph needs some fixes, I'll be happy to write them, but it also need some fixes on the nova role as it doesn't work at this moment. | 15:56 |
| yoctozepto | and I'd like to discuss https://bugs.launchpad.net/kolla-ansible/+bug/1874218 a bit | 15:56 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1874218 in kolla-ansible "swift sanity checks (smoke tests) broken" [Low,Triaged] | 15:56 |
| yoctozepto | are we into sanity checks / smoke tests? | 15:56 |
| yoctozepto | they look pooey now | 15:57 |
| openstackgerrit | James Kirsch proposed openstack/kolla master: Modify Heat and Nova containers to execute httpd setup https://review.opendev.org/722028 | 15:57 |
| yoctozepto | Fl1nt: only rocky? | 15:57 |
| priteau | Fl1nt: I am curious, what doesn't work with nova and external ceph? | 15:57 |
| Fl1nt | maybe stein, but I didn't have HW/CI to test that release for now | 15:57 |
| Fl1nt | @priteau, the keyring | 15:57 |
| Fl1nt | because | 15:57 |
| Fl1nt | with external ceph | 15:58 |
| Fl1nt | you don't handle which ceph client/release you're using | 15:58 |
| Fl1nt | and so | 15:58 |
| Fl1nt | when using ceph.client.nova.keyring filename with rbd_user = cinder and inner key = ceph.client.cinder.keyring content | 15:58 |
| Fl1nt | ceph client saw the trick | 15:58 |
| Fl1nt | and complain about it and raise an error | 15:59 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: no thoughts on smoke tests / sanity checks? | 16:00 |
| Fl1nt | the only way to overcome that, is to upload the ceph.client.cinder.keyring on nova_compute and nova_libvirt container instead of ceph.client.nova.keyring. | 16:00 |
| Fl1nt | or | 16:00 |
| Fl1nt | to add a client directive within your ceph.conf like | 16:01 |
| Fl1nt | [client.nova] | 16:01 |
| Fl1nt | keyring = <path_to_cinder_keyring> | 16:01 |
| Fl1nt | which is... ugly for the least ^^ | 16:01 |
| Fl1nt | exemple: https://opendev.org/openstack/kolla-ansible/src/tag/7.2.1/ansible/roles/nova/tasks/external_ceph.yml | 16:01 |
| Fl1nt | but on train: https://opendev.org/openstack/kolla-ansible/commit/a9fecc41a31749c97e89ba6b66c9c46714fa6da8 | 16:02 |
| mgoddard | Fl1nt: I would suggest talking to mnasiadka. He made quite a few changes to external ceph config in master | 16:02 |
| Fl1nt | cool | 16:02 |
| mgoddard | we're out of time I'm afraid | 16:02 |
| mgoddard | Thanks all | 16:02 |
| mgoddard | #endmeeting | 16:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Please feel welcome to join Kolla SIG https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kolla-sig | Kolla IRC meetings on Wednesdays @ 15:00 UTC - see agenda @ https://goo.gl/OXB0DL | Whiteboard: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/KollaWhiteBoard | IRC channel is *LOGGED* @ http://goo.gl/3mzZ7b" | 16:03 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Apr 22 16:03:02 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:03 |
| Fl1nt | if we can cherry pick the fixes may be good | 16:03 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2020/kolla.2020-04-22-15.00.html | 16:03 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2020/kolla.2020-04-22-15.00.txt | 16:03 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2020/kolla.2020-04-22-15.00.log.html | 16:03 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: I don't mind your answer after the meeting | 16:03 |
| osmanlicilegi | thanks folks | 16:03 |
| hrw | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/721847/ anyone? | 16:03 |
| patchbot | patch 721847 - kolla - Do not try to build skipped/unbuildable images - 1 patch set | 16:03 |
| Fl1nt | @mgoddard, any idea of @mnasiadka timezone ? | 16:04 |
| priteau | Fl1nt: mnasiadka's commit suggests that this is needed only from Train | 16:04 |
| hrw | Fl1nt: 18:04 at his place | 16:04 |
| Fl1nt | @priteau, it's not unfortunately | 16:04 |
| priteau | And stupid question, but why not just configure a nova user? :-) | 16:04 |
| Fl1nt | get the issue confirmed on rocky 7.1.1 kolla container using centos-7 with ceph-common packages from nautilus and ceph-ansible cluster using nautilus too. | 16:05 |
| hrw | Fl1nt: you did a fresh modified build of rocky/c7 images? | 16:06 |
| Fl1nt | because booting from volume is handled by cinder. | 16:06 |
| Fl1nt | @hrw, fresh? is a week ago enough? | 16:06 |
| mnasiadka | Fl1nt: rocky? Oh boy | 16:07 |
| mnasiadka | Fl1nt: I did make some changes to external-ceph, but mainly in master - not backported since it was rather an extension, not bug fixing | 16:07 |
| hrw | Fl1nt: fresh as other than official ones | 16:07 |
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| Fl1nt | @mnasiadka, all in all, let's just nova use cinder key and username, put in the doc that due to some shinaningan within libraries within rocky you need to use cinder and add the vms pools to your cinder user, that's it | 16:08 |
| Fl1nt | @hrw, yep, they've been rebuild last week. | 16:09 |
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| hrw | Fl1nt: have you considered r->s->t? | 16:10 |
| mnasiadka | Fl1nt: rocky is in extended maintenance, if you feel like caring for it - raise a bug and fix it :) | 16:10 |
| Fl1nt | @hrw, that's in the process but I can't for now as the PoC requester explicitely required the acceptance test to be PoC on rocky, then upgrade validation to train and prod on train. | 16:11 |
| Fl1nt | @mnasiadka, I'll do. | 16:11 |
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| Fl1nt | FWIW @mnasiadka this, isn't accurate neither: https://docs.openstack.org/kolla-ansible/train/reference/storage/external-ceph-guide.html | 16:14 |
| Fl1nt | because kolla doesn't control the ceph-common client version. | 16:14 |
| Fl1nt | used within image builds | 16:14 |
| * hrw off | 16:14 | |
| sorin-mihai_ | i'm getting this error when trying to deploy from master https://pastebin.com/raw/9RrYBaL1 where should that cert file be on the node to get sourced? | 16:15 |
| Fl1nt | @sorin-mihai_, within <node_config>/config/cinder/ directory | 16:17 |
| sorin-mihai_ | strange, because i tried that, i was hopping it should be somewhere else | 16:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla stable/train: CentOS 8: Add rabbitmq-3.7.24 image (CentOS 7 only) https://review.opendev.org/715224 | 16:19 |
| sorin-mihai_ | that would be /etc/kolla/config/cinder/ with the defaults, right? | 16:20 |
| Fl1nt | yep, except if you deploy using kolla-ansible from pip | 16:21 |
| sorin-mihai_ | yeah, double checked. i have /etc/kolla/config/cinder/cinder-cert.pem | 16:22 |
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| mnasiadka | Fl1nt: it does - in a way - we install what distro gives us - you’re free to change it using template override | 16:25 |
| Fl1nt | @sorin-mihai_, do you have your ansible run history? does it copied the file or skipped it? | 16:25 |
| sorin-mihai_ | can always run again | 16:26 |
| Fl1nt | @mnasiadka, yes, but I mean, for instance, we don't really get a compatibility matrix such as rocky = ceph >13.x <15.y etc | 16:26 |
| Fl1nt | and | 16:26 |
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| Fl1nt | Here is an example, your company have two departments, one which handle the storage part, one which provide platforms that are supposed to use/run over it. | 16:27 |
| Fl1nt | then you've got maybe storage team using ceph octopus, but the platforms requiring rocky/stein/whatever | 16:28 |
| Fl1nt | and maybe that required platform version isn't compatible with a specific client. | 16:28 |
| Fl1nt | but you can't know it | 16:28 |
| mnasiadka | Fl1nt: https://ethercalc.openstack.org/kolla-infra-service-matrix | 16:28 |
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| mnasiadka | Fl1nt: can’t think of ceph client incompatibility for RBD... unless your storage team limits the version of clients allowed to connect | 16:29 |
| Fl1nt | @mnasiadka, where did you get that? :D that's exactly that kind of matrix that should be frontpage of the project doc. | 16:29 |
| Fl1nt | @mnasiadka, exactly that. | 16:30 |
| mnasiadka | Fl1nt: I think yoctozepto/hrw did that | 16:30 |
| Fl1nt | ooooh sweet of them!! kudos to anyone did it! | 16:30 |
| mnasiadka | Fl1nt: so kick the storage team in the head for not thinking straight :) | 16:30 |
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| mnasiadka | When it comes to RBD - even Jewel clients are fully compatible with Nautilus cluster | 16:31 |
| mnasiadka | (Doesn’t mean bugs are fixed in Jewel clients though) | 16:31 |
| Fl1nt | Well, as operators, we're dealing with company, I'm not David going to beat the ass of goliath ;-) I think that enterprise oriented software should at least know about such use-case and provide explicit material on it, vmware do it for instance. | 16:32 |
| Fl1nt | yeah, it's not an incompatibility issue in here, it's just the way corporate work. | 16:32 |
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| Fl1nt | oh and also the way the library used as switched within nova during a release I guess :D | 16:33 |
| Fl1nt | -as +have | 16:33 |
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| sorin-mihai_ | https://pastebin.com/raw/vC5WY1Te | 16:35 |
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| Fl1nt | @sorin-mihai_, did you set your node_config var? because you run your kolla-ansible from venv, it won't be able to find it otherwise. | 16:37 |
| sorin-mihai_ | no, the line is actually commented, i thought it would keep it as 'default' #node_custom_config: "/etc/kolla/config" | 16:39 |
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| sorin-mihai_ | but is not commented in group_vars/all.yml and i thought it would take it from there | 16:43 |
| Fl1nt | @mnasiadka, ok, I confirm the issue, I'll do a bugfix this weekend and propose it, that's nothing too complex so it should be easy to approve (or not) it. | 16:44 |
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| riuzen | Anyone have a luck with magnum on k-a? I try to deploy it on Train version then got this error: http://paste.openstack.org/show/792556/. Magnum service always using public keystone endpoint instead internal and keystone_auth_default_policy.json missing. | 16:51 |
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| yoctozepto | well, that was a quick leave | 17:03 |
| hrw | mnasiadka: yoctozepto did, I updated | 17:04 |
| dcapone2004 | saw some response on my questions about openstack train and CentOS8 | 17:08 |
| dcapone2004 | there was a ntoe that the git clone version was needed | 17:08 |
| dcapone2004 | however, I was monitoring your meeting and noted some conversation about a CentOS8/Train "release", did this imply that this support is being backported into the pip channel and will work from pip install -U kolla-ansible in the near future? | 17:10 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard, hrw: I updated https://ethercalc.openstack.org/kolla-infra-service-matrix | 17:12 |
| yoctozepto | (just now) | 17:12 |
| yoctozepto | it represents current state | 17:12 |
| yoctozepto | there are two apparent issues, marked red and added a comment | 17:12 |
| yoctozepto | this is before proposed hrw's changes * | 17:13 |
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| hrw | yoctozepto: I would love to have facts checked before leaving comments | 17:16 |
| hrw | yoctozepto: Debian in train uses luminous despite backports being enabled | 17:16 |
| hrw | yoctozepto: Debian in ussuri has nautilus pinned | 17:16 |
| hrw | yoctozepto: if someone wants then Debian/stein/nautilus is also possible. We have such images built in Linaro. | 17:18 |
| yoctozepto | hrw: we don't have backports repo in train, mr fact checker ;-) | 17:18 |
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| hrw | yoctozepto: then I do not understand your comment on debian/ussuri/ceph version | 17:18 |
| yoctozepto | the issue is that we are 1) using general backports when ceph has its own home, 2) we are using train for ussuri :-) | 17:18 |
| yoctozepto | it's not a breaker, just something to keep in mind | 17:19 |
| hrw | yoctozepto: https://review.opendev.org/719364 | 17:19 |
| patchbot | patch 719364 - kolla - Debian: use Ussuri binary packages - 1 patch set | 17:19 |
| yoctozepto | despite the red colour | 17:19 |
| hrw | yoctozepto: when it will be ready then it will be using ussuri binaries | 17:19 |
| hrw | yoctozepto: if you want to help Debian OpenStack team then go for it. | 17:19 |
| hrw | yoctozepto: they work on packages After RC1 of openstack | 17:20 |
| hrw | it is not UCA or RDO with people paid to do that stuff | 17:20 |
| yoctozepto | hrw: I don't know why you are taking this personally :-) it's just a thing to remember ;-) | 17:20 |
| hrw | yoctozepto: such a day.week.month | 17:21 |
| yoctozepto | yeah, I'm depressed too :/ | 17:21 |
| hrw | yoctozepto: I am tired of keeping all those distros in sync ;d | 17:21 |
| yoctozepto | interesting uca brought octopus to the table though | 17:22 |
| hrw | not suprising. they did that in past too | 17:22 |
| hrw | we released centos/debian with luminous and ubuntu with mimic | 17:22 |
| hrw | etc | 17:22 |
| yoctozepto | hrw: yeah, it's quite demanding to keep them all in a worky state | 17:22 |
| yoctozepto | hmm, mimic looks gone from tables though | 17:23 |
| yoctozepto | not seein it | 17:23 |
| hrw | yoctozepto: I like the fact of knowing openstack people in rdo and debian as this makes our life easier | 17:23 |
| hrw | yoctozepto: RDO had some changes done especially for us in last few days | 17:23 |
| hrw | as effect of 'guys, we lack those packages: x, y, z, za. they were built here: urlx, urly, urlz, urlza' | 17:24 |
| hrw | centos-release-ansible-29 got fixed as it broke our CI | 17:24 |
| hrw | centos-release-* (ceph-nautilus, advanced-virt, openstack-train) will be released this week | 17:25 |
| hrw | c8/train will use mirrors.centos.org on all three architectures | 17:25 |
| hrw | c8/ussuri will use same (except openstack-train) + RDO delorean | 17:26 |
| hrw | so some repos will duplicate in master but not in stable/ussuri | 17:26 |
| hrw | etc | 17:26 |
| openstackgerrit | James Kirsch proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add support for encrypting glance api https://review.opendev.org/707131 | 17:26 |
| yoctozepto | hrw: that | 17:26 |
| yoctozepto | 's cool | 17:26 |
| hrw | for vicky we can choose to use either centos or rdo repos for components | 17:26 |
| hrw | etc | 17:26 |
| hrw | I really like how c8 looks for us. | 17:27 |
| yoctozepto | c8 feels better than c7 for sure | 17:27 |
| hrw | we probably can ignore external repos for most of stuff. | 17:27 |
| hrw | ELK will be external, grafana too but rmq? c8 | 17:27 |
| hrw | once c8/train gets released I will take ppc64le machine and check how it looks there | 17:28 |
| yoctozepto | hrw: and then other distros move to rmq 4.0 which requires magic and we have to cater for that in k-a :D | 17:28 |
| hrw | yoctozepto: when they do then we will worry | 17:30 |
| yoctozepto | hrw: indeed | 17:30 |
| hrw | I am tired of that IT cargoculture of using random binaries | 17:30 |
| hrw | which in projects like that keeps us nicely out of time for working on new stuff | 17:31 |
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| yoctozepto | hrw: agreed | 17:34 |
| yoctozepto | hrw: so you are saying you've got good contacts in rdo and debian | 17:34 |
| yoctozepto | maybe what we need is a way to coordinate such things | 17:35 |
| yoctozepto | and also include uca in that of course | 17:35 |
| yoctozepto | ideally we would not need any upstreams and coordinate all 3 to roughly match their versions | 17:36 |
| yoctozepto | or else it would help greatly if we could just consume "official" containers | 17:36 |
| yoctozepto | for non-openstack things and then focus on openstack and better features for it | 17:36 |
| hrw | yoctozepto: those contacts are 'go to proper irc channels, ask nicely, be gentle and help' | 17:37 |
| hrw | yoctozepto: we can drop binary images and pray for infra ones to work ;D | 17:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla master: [DNM] test something https://review.opendev.org/722102 | 17:49 |
| yoctozepto | hrw: deprecated everything! | 17:49 |
| yoctozepto | deprecate* | 17:49 |
| hrw | yoctozepto: deprecate base. rest will not matter | 17:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla master: Do not try to build skipped/unbuildable images https://review.opendev.org/721847 | 17:58 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kayobe master: Fix passwords.yml generation with vault encryption on Python 3 https://review.opendev.org/721281 | 17:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kayobe master: Cleanup py27 support https://review.opendev.org/720764 | 17:59 |
| dcapone2004 | any response on my Train/CentOs8 support? | 18:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla master: CI: Add swift jobs https://review.opendev.org/722127 | 19:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Michal Nasiadka proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Custom haproxy script for monitoring galera https://review.opendev.org/710213 | 19:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kayobe master: Use upper constraints when installing Tenks https://review.opendev.org/720736 | 20:11 |
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| openstackgerrit | James Kirsch proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add support for encrypting glance api https://review.opendev.org/707131 | 20:42 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-April/014293.html, hmm? | 20:44 |
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