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| yoctozepto | morning | 07:07 |
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| hrw | morning | 07:18 |
| mnasiadka | morning | 07:21 |
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| Fl1nt | Good morning channel! | 07:23 |
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| Fl1nt | @mgoddard, Sorry for yesterday if I didn't answered, I suffered of an electric shutdown, we have a heavy rain episode right now :-( | 07:26 |
| Fl1nt | so regarding Cloudkitty, I'll do the documentation while I'm pushing the WIP patch, Do you have a service oriented documentation that you would me to start from? | 07:27 |
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| kevko | yoctozepto: hi, what about to split my review to bunch of reviews to not have a lot of changes in one review .. | 08:01 |
| mgoddard | morning | 08:02 |
| LinPeiWen | morning | 08:03 |
| mgoddard | Fl1nt: documentation can be a separate patch if you prefer | 08:04 |
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| Fl1nt | Ok mgoddard, I'll do it that way. | 08:04 |
| mgoddard | Fl1nt: currently I don't think we have any docs for cloudkitty. They should go in doc/source/reference/logging-and-monitoring/cloudkitty.rst | 08:05 |
| Fl1nt | BTW: I'm will work on a doc rework proposal as for now the doc is kind of messy: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/kolla-doc <-- to follow that proposal | 08:05 |
| Fl1nt | rating isn't about monitoring or logging, it's about financial so I'm not sure it would be logical for a user to find it under that section. | 08:06 |
| yoctozepto | kevko: that sounds sensible | 08:06 |
| yoctozepto | Fl1nt: the pad looks pretty empty | 08:07 |
| Fl1nt | yes, I just started it, I'll work on it today | 08:07 |
| kevko | Fl1nt: just wondering about "rating" ? | 08:08 |
| kevko | Fl1nt: it is rating-as-a-service :P | 08:08 |
| Fl1nt | Cloudkitty is a rating service for your whole cluster. | 08:08 |
| Fl1nt | so it's not as-a-service per see, but as it rate atomically at project scope, it's in a way. | 08:09 |
| Fl1nt | kevko, don't mix up rating and billing BTW ;-) | 08:10 |
| kevko | Fl1nt: well, cloudkitty has description in doc: "CloudKitty is the project name of a Rating-as-a-Service project." .. so, I wanted to just tell here :P | 08:11 |
| Fl1nt | that's not really true actually as none of your project can actually opt out of it if you deploy CK on your platform. | 08:12 |
| Fl1nt | But it can be used to rate external "things" so, in a way it is. | 08:13 |
| Fl1nt | maybe the "as a service" term is just too vague. | 08:14 |
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| kevko | Fl1nt: ok :) | 08:14 |
| mgoddard | I realise it's not exactly monitoring, but we try to group services together. If we put it in a rating directory it is likely to be the only thing in it | 08:16 |
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| Fl1nt | yep, you're right | 08:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Pierre Riteau proposed openstack/kolla master: Fix typo and capitalisation in help message https://review.opendev.org/753441 | 08:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla master: Fix typo and capitalisation in help message https://review.opendev.org/753441 | 08:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla master: Restore Neutron migrations https://review.opendev.org/753543 | 08:27 |
| yoctozepto | Fl1nt, kevko: aas (as-a-service; not to confuse with "bottom" synonym) is vague - rating is the functionality and the project implements the service doing it so it's RaaS :-) | 08:30 |
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| Fl1nt | @yoctozepto, except that it's not project level implemented, it's platform wide and it's the project that rate other project independently, aas require the notion of opt out, like for Octavia for instance, you can use it, but you can decide to not. | 08:33 |
| Fl1nt | as any project even those not using anything except for instance object-storage will be incidently rated, you're not in a AAS model. | 08:34 |
| Fl1nt | but as you told it | 08:34 |
| Fl1nt | cloudkitty being a service of the platform | 08:34 |
| Fl1nt | it can be named RAAS too | 08:34 |
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| Fl1nt | so yeah, aas is too vague as it depends on your context. | 08:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michal Arbet proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add support for custom logging file defined by user https://review.opendev.org/679812 | 08:37 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pierre Riteau proposed openstack/kayobe master: Add missing barbican.conf support https://review.opendev.org/752900 | 10:27 |
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| recyclehero | hey guys if the experts meeting is over I have some Qs | 11:20 |
| recyclehero | planning to migrate from a multi node openstack queens backed by nfs driver to kolla ussuri | 11:21 |
| recyclehero | I ahve around 10 vms now and 5 users | 11:21 |
| recyclehero | should I go all in one in your opinion? | 11:21 |
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| recyclehero | should I control the deployment process(Ansible) from my laptop? | 11:22 |
| hrw | q->r->s->t->u is nice pile of updates... | 11:23 |
| recyclehero | hrw: I hope I dont need to work that path instead move the important vms manually | 11:24 |
| recyclehero | the multinode inventory file has lots of Ip 10.0.0.[10:14] like 2 for control. can I use one for each and ditch HA? | 11:25 |
| recyclehero | hrw: they are kvm virtual manchines arent they? I should be able to move them in some fashion | 11:26 |
| hrw | never did upgrades so hard to tell | 11:27 |
| * hrw back to training | 11:27 | |
| recyclehero | how do u do this * thing in IRC? | 11:28 |
| yoctozepto | recyclehero: /me da best | 11:30 |
| * yoctozepto da best | 11:30 | |
| * recyclehero is thankful | 11:30 | |
| yoctozepto | recyclehero: really depends on where your laptop is | 11:30 |
| yoctozepto | if it's a low latency low failure-rate link to the server room, then it will be nice | 11:31 |
| recyclehero | yoctozepto: It can be connected to both management net and provider net | 11:31 |
| yoctozepto | yeah, I mean like if you want to control New York servers from Los Angeles | 11:31 |
| yoctozepto | that wouldn't be a good idea in the budget scenario | 11:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Michal Nasiadka proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Use Docker healthchecks for core services https://review.opendev.org/676389 | 11:32 |
| recyclehero | yoctozepto: kolla is a permenant entity or only needed for deployment ? | 11:32 |
| yoctozepto | for your size AIO sounds just right considering current hardware standards | 11:32 |
| yoctozepto | recyclehero: kolla builds the images; kolla-ansible deploys them | 11:32 |
| yoctozepto | you don't need either after you are done | 11:32 |
| yoctozepto | but you might still want to run updates/upgrades so... | 11:33 |
| recyclehero | so laptop it is, tnx. | 11:33 |
| yoctozepto | you should only keep your settings and passwords store in a safe backed-up place | 11:33 |
| yoctozepto | as hrw said you need to do release per release upgrade | 11:34 |
| yoctozepto | queens->rocky etc. | 11:34 |
| recyclehero | the yaml files? | 11:34 |
| yoctozepto | yeah, the yaml files | 11:34 |
| yoctozepto | and the ini files | 11:34 |
| yoctozepto | and any other relevant files | 11:34 |
| * yoctozepto bbl | 11:35 | |
| recyclehero | I will read the entire doc for kolla and will spam the chanell later | 11:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michal Nasiadka proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Use Docker healthchecks for core services https://review.opendev.org/676389 | 11:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Michal Nasiadka proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Use Docker healthchecks for core services https://review.opendev.org/676389 | 11:43 |
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| * recyclehero testing the water | 12:09 | |
| recyclehero | can one go from a all in one to a multi node with kola? | 12:09 |
| recyclehero | can one add a controller node to a multi node deployment later on? if yes please explain how does the new node DB get synced? | 12:10 |
| recyclehero | does the actual user created instances live in docker? kvm in docker is possible? | 12:26 |
| yoctozepto | recyclehero: they live in the host pid namespace, the libvirt is containerised - yes | 12:29 |
| yoctozepto | recyclehero: you can go from aio to multinode | 12:29 |
| yoctozepto | recyclehero: mariadb galera is able to do the sync | 12:29 |
| Fl1nt | and I'm back ^^ | 12:31 |
| Fl1nt | mgoddard, just teasing a bit, but I've a final meeting on friday afternoon about an acquisition of my company by my current customer, we have an agreement clause where I'll be 100% dedicated on our openstack platform initiative, including all aspects related to the contibution to the community and patches with dedicated time for that ;-) | 12:33 |
| recyclehero | recyclehero: "they live in the host pid namespace" means its special kind of containerizatio? does the performance of kvm differ from bare metal? | 12:33 |
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| priteau | New CI issue in Kayobe today | 12:36 |
| priteau | https://zuul.opendev.org/t/openstack/build/f3512f023f5344078e921bb1ddef08a6 | 12:36 |
| priteau | Seems to be related to the release of ansible 2.10 | 12:39 |
| recyclehero | yoctozepto: | 12:39 |
| priteau | I see 2.10.0 getting installed here: https://48f44a00bc5b9605050d-37d30e8ca4786c547186bac4ea4dd159.ssl.cf2.rackcdn.com/752900/6/check/kayobe-tox-molecule/f3512f0/tox/molecule-1.log | 12:39 |
| recyclehero | Fl1nt: way to go. you are now a millioner I guess | 12:40 |
| openstackgerrit | wu.chunyang proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: remove octavia interface configs https://review.opendev.org/743954 | 12:40 |
| Fl1nt | lol recyclehero far from that but I'm doint it well financially for sure ^^ | 12:41 |
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| Fl1nt | but the message here was mostly to let mgoddard know that I'll have more dedicated time for the project ^^ | 12:41 |
| Fl1nt | and | 12:41 |
| Fl1nt | probably more people to bring with me us the near futur. | 12:42 |
| mgoddard | Fl1nt: congrats :) | 12:42 |
| mgoddard | Fl1nt: will you share which company it is? | 12:43 |
| Fl1nt | government ^^ but yeah | 12:43 |
| yoctozepto | Fl1nt: way to go! French gov? | 12:47 |
| yoctozepto | recyclehero: it does not differ; you can configure docker to let processes live in the same namespace that normal, host ones do | 12:48 |
| Fl1nt | @yoctozepto, yes | 12:48 |
| yoctozepto | Fl1nt: yay, I wish our had a similar stance rather than spending lots of monies on Microsoft | 12:49 |
| yoctozepto | priteau: ansible 2.10 is a centos8 no-go anyway | 12:50 |
| priteau | Really, what's the problem? | 12:50 |
| yoctozepto | priteau: I'm not a big fan | 12:50 |
| yoctozepto | priteau: oops | 12:50 |
| yoctozepto | priteau: https://github.com/ansible/ansible/issues/71786 | 12:50 |
| yoctozepto | I don't know where that copy-paste have come from | 12:50 |
| yoctozepto | :D | 12:51 |
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| yoctozepto | need to fix that neutron role | 12:51 |
| yoctozepto | but so far clueless about the real reason of failure | 12:51 |
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| yoctozepto | :-( | 12:52 |
| openstackgerrit | wu.chunyang proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: remove octavia interface configs https://review.opendev.org/743954 | 12:52 |
| Fl1nt | @yoctozepto, it's all about communication and marketing honestly, we started our journey with a small big really optimized cloud platform that kicked ass those microsoft and VMWare toys, then we took that design and make it evolve the more customers integrated it, it helped us to create customers success stories that then spreaded the words to other departments etc. | 12:53 |
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| yoctozepto | priteau: I think kayobe needs to pin ansible currently anyway | 13:01 |
| priteau | We already pin it, I am not sure where this installation of ansible 2.10.0 is coming from | 13:01 |
| priteau | Maybe it's not related to ansible directly but ansible-base, I am investigating | 13:02 |
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| priteau | It might be some installation weirdness: https://github.com/ansible-collections/community.kubernetes/issues/135#issuecomment-661189940 | 13:09 |
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| Fl1nt | priteau, thanks for your comments on the cloudkitty WIP, I'll adapt. | 13:13 |
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| Fl1nt | mgoddard, priteau should I rather rework the patch for cloudkitty to be kolla oriented and let down the external part? it introduce a lot of if/else mechanism otherwise and I feel it's too much for now. | 13:19 |
| priteau | I think so, but what would you keep if we ignore the external part? | 13:20 |
| mgoddard | Fl1nt: need to look again, can do it later | 13:21 |
| Fl1nt | @priteau, I'll keep your keystone auth section and add prometheus/monasca/gnocchi/elasticsearch the way we have influxdb | 13:24 |
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| Fl1nt | mgoddard, sure thx | 13:27 |
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| kevko | yoctozepto: hi, could you please check my review , if you have some time of course .. | 14:05 |
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| yoctozepto | kevko: sure, I definitely will | 14:12 |
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| kevko | yoctozepto: thank you | 14:28 |
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| mgoddard | mgoddard mnasiadka hrw egonzalez yoctozepto rafaelweingartne cosmicsound osmanlicilegi bbezak | 14:51 |
| mgoddard | ^ meeting in 9 minutes | 14:51 |
| hrw | ah. meeting | 14:51 |
| osmanlicilegi | I need to skip today's meeting cause there is open infra days turkey now and I have some tasks there. | 14:52 |
| hrw | osmanlicilegi: have fun | 14:52 |
| hrw | Polish open infra days were cancelled | 14:52 |
| osmanlicilegi | we too, trying to do virtual but it's hard | 14:54 |
| yoctozepto | :O the time really flies | 14:54 |
| mgoddard | #startmeeting kolla | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Sep 23 15:00:27 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mgoddard. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kolla' | 15:00 |
| mgoddard | #topic rollcall | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "rollcall (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:00 | |
| mgoddard | put your hands in the air like you just don't care | 15:00 |
| priteau | o/ | 15:00 |
| mgoddard | \o/ | 15:00 |
| hrw | [o] | 15:01 |
| Fl1nt | \o | 15:01 |
| wuchunyang | o | 15:01 |
| yoctozepto | o/ | 15:01 |
| mgoddard | that's a new one hrw | 15:01 |
| hrw | ha! | 15:01 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: but we care :-( | 15:01 |
| mnasiadka | o/ | 15:02 |
| Fl1nt | he's grumpy ^^ | 15:02 |
| hrw | Fl1nt: who is not? | 15:02 |
| yoctozepto | hrw: santa claus | 15:02 |
| Fl1nt | I'm not ^^ | 15:02 |
| mgoddard | #topic agenda | 15:03 |
| yoctozepto | <sherlock-mode>Fl1nt is Santa Claus</sherlock-mode> | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "agenda (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:03 | |
| mgoddard | * Roll-call | 15:03 |
| mgoddard | * Announcements | 15:03 |
| mgoddard | ** Kolla Klub meeting returns tomorrow @ 15:00 UTC! https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EwQs2GXF-EvJZamEx9vQAOSDB5tCjsDCJyHQN5_4_Sw/ | 15:03 |
| mgoddard | ** Kolla feature freeze fast approaching: Sep 28 - Oct 02 | 15:03 |
| mgoddard | ** Submit Virtual PTG topic proposals: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/kolla-wallaby-ptg | 15:03 |
| mgoddard | ** TC & PTL elections coming up: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-September/017306.html | 15:03 |
| mgoddard | ** Ubuntu qemu bug http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-September/017390.html | 15:03 |
| mgoddard | * Review action items from the last meeting | 15:03 |
| mgoddard | * CI status | 15:03 |
| mgoddard | * Victoria release planning | 15:03 |
| mgoddard | ** Bump minimum Ansible version to 2.9 but blacklist 2.10 on CentOS 8? https://github.com/ansible/ansible/issues/71786 | 15:03 |
| mgoddard | #topic announcements | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:03 | |
| mgoddard | #info Kolla Klub meeting returns tomorrow @ 15:00 UTC! | 15:03 |
| mgoddard | #link https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EwQs2GXF-EvJZamEx9vQAOSDB5tCjsDCJyHQN5_4_Sw/ | 15:04 |
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| mgoddard | agenda: | 15:04 |
| mgoddard | Quick upstream update | 15:04 |
| mgoddard | Improving engagement with the community in non EU/US timezones | 15:04 |
| mgoddard | Operator feedback | 15:04 |
| yoctozepto | ++ | 15:04 |
| mgoddard | #info Kolla feature freeze fast approaching: Sep 28 - Oct 02 | 15:05 |
| mgoddard | Weekly reminder | 15:06 |
| mgoddard | #info Submit Virtual PTG topic proposals | 15:06 |
| mgoddard | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/kolla-wallaby-ptg | 15:06 |
| mgoddard | No topics yet :) | 15:06 |
| * yoctozepto proposes to copy-paste unfinished victoria ones | 15:07 | |
| Fl1nt | I'll had some ^^ | 15:07 |
| mgoddard | Great | 15:07 |
| mgoddard | yoctozepto: into the Incomplete Victoria Priorities section please | 15:07 |
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| mgoddard | although we're not finished yet :) | 15:07 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: sure, just closer to victoria release | 15:07 |
| yoctozepto | indeed! | 15:07 |
| yoctozepto | I need to get you out of my head | 15:08 |
| mgoddard | cue Kylie | 15:08 |
| mgoddard | #info TC & PTL elections coming up | 15:08 |
| mgoddard | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-September/017306.html | 15:08 |
| mgoddard | Again, anyone is free to nominate themselves to join the TC, or become PTL | 15:09 |
| mgoddard | Anyone thinking of running for kolla? (you don't have to say now) | 15:09 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: I hope you are just teasing and you are going to run for it :-) | 15:09 |
| mgoddard | yoctozepto: all good things must come to an end... | 15:10 |
| hrw | I do not plan to | 15:10 |
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| yoctozepto | mgoddard: :O :-(((((( | 15:10 |
| mgoddard | I do intend to run this time however | 15:10 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: we can also use the ptl-less model if it makes you feel better | 15:11 |
| hrw | mgoddard: done! you are PTL for Wcycle ;D | 15:11 |
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| wuchunyang | +1 | 15:11 |
| mgoddard | #info Ubuntu qemu bug | 15:11 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: but you definitely have my vote whenever, wherever | 15:11 |
| mgoddard | yoctozepto: are you deliberately throwing out pop lyrics? | 15:12 |
| mgoddard | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-September/017390.html | 15:12 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: singer's soul | 15:12 |
| mgoddard | ^ potentially nasty bug for ubuntu users on victoria/focal | 15:13 |
| yoctozepto | indeed, hence why I added it to agenda | 15:13 |
| yoctozepto | not sure we can do anything about it | 15:13 |
| yoctozepto | based on further discussion it's not 100% reproducible | 15:13 |
| yoctozepto | so it belongs to the most feared category of bufs | 15:14 |
| yoctozepto | bugs* | 15:14 |
| mgoddard | #topic Review action items from the last meeting | 15:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review action items from the last meeting (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:14 | |
| mgoddard | yoctozepto to try bumping ansible to 2.9-2.10 | 15:14 |
| mgoddard | he tried, he failed | 15:14 |
| mgoddard | not his fault | 15:14 |
| yoctozepto | it works on Ubuntu | 15:14 |
| yoctozepto | and Debian | 15:14 |
| mgoddard | looks like we will be sticking with 2.9 | 15:15 |
| yoctozepto | just not CentOS 8 | 15:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Michal Nasiadka proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Use Docker healthchecks for core services https://review.opendev.org/676389 | 15:15 |
| mgoddard | py3.6 issue then | 15:15 |
| yoctozepto | so I managed to bump | 15:15 |
| yoctozepto | but it failed to run it | 15:15 |
| yoctozepto | seems o | 15:15 |
| yoctozepto | so* | 15:15 |
| mgoddard | great | 15:15 |
| yoctozepto | I did not get much help from the ansible community | 15:15 |
| yoctozepto | and unable to reproduce minimal example | 15:15 |
| mgoddard | why would they want ansible to work on RHEL distros? | 15:15 |
| priteau | We won't consider bumping to 2.9 only? | 15:15 |
| mgoddard | +1, that was the backup plan | 15:16 |
| yoctozepto | it's the final agenda point | 15:16 |
| yoctozepto | but we can discuss it now | 15:16 |
| mgoddard | let's get it over with | 15:16 |
| yoctozepto | anyone disagrees? | 15:16 |
| mgoddard | bump minimum ansible to 2.9? | 15:16 |
| yoctozepto | #vote yes | 15:16 |
| mgoddard | #vote yes | 15:16 |
| mnasiadka | #vote yes | 15:17 |
| wuchunyang | #vote yes | 15:17 |
| hrw | + | 15:17 |
| yoctozepto | regarding maximum - we can bump it for deb to keep it tested but deliberately note it is not supported on centos 8 | 15:17 |
| mgoddard | sounds complicated | 15:18 |
| yoctozepto | well, we kinda test it like this already anyway | 15:18 |
| yoctozepto | ;p | 15:18 |
| yoctozepto | lowest on centos | 15:18 |
| yoctozepto | highest on ubuntu | 15:18 |
| mgoddard | true. lucky you caught it | 15:18 |
| yoctozepto | so it's a matter of documenting the failure fact | 15:19 |
| yoctozepto | and *maybe* we get it fixed for centos anyway | 15:19 |
| yoctozepto | testing 2.10 has the benefit of catching it bugs early | 15:19 |
| yoctozepto | "benefit" | 15:19 |
| yoctozepto | bump maximum ansible to 2.10? | 15:20 |
| yoctozepto | #vote yes | 15:20 |
| Fl1nt | Goes for the 2.9 on my own | 15:20 |
| Fl1nt | sorry, I had a work call :( | 15:20 |
| mgoddard | hmm, unsure | 15:21 |
| Fl1nt | #vote no | 15:21 |
| priteau | 2.10 was just released today if I understood correctly, and we just started testing with it | 15:21 |
| Fl1nt | because I feel like it will be yet another complication to get to maintain two different syntax/requirements on different platform and it doesn't really add a lot of benefit yet. | 15:21 |
| priteau | Sounds like something we should be bumping in Wallaby? | 15:21 |
| priteau | (and hoping that CentOS supports it by then) | 15:22 |
| Fl1nt | +1 | 15:22 |
| mnasiadka | well, can we bump testing on debian/ubuntu but not advertise 2.10 support in docs? | 15:22 |
| Fl1nt | for testing purpose sure ^^ | 15:22 |
| mnasiadka | once centos 8 issues are solved, we'll fix the support note? | 15:22 |
| mgoddard | it's only a loose dependency, more of a constraint. We could potentially bump to 2.10 in a minor release? | 15:23 |
| Fl1nt | but be careful of any downward compatibility issue tho | 15:23 |
| Fl1nt | especially on keywords etc. | 15:23 |
| mgoddard | of course, it would need to be tested | 15:23 |
| mnasiadka | mgoddard: sure | 15:23 |
| mnasiadka | but let's get rid of 2.8 ;) | 15:23 |
| Fl1nt | I already had a bad surprise with those nasty changes with keywords ^^ | 15:24 |
| mnasiadka | once 2.11 will be out - 2.8 will be eol anyways | 15:24 |
| Fl1nt | for sure let's abbandon 2.8 :D | 15:24 |
| mgoddard | seems like the general feeling is no 2.10 in V, reassess later | 15:24 |
| mgoddard | anyone want to bump min to 2.9? | 15:24 |
| yoctozepto | no promise of 2.10 compat | 15:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Michal Nasiadka proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Use Docker healthchecks for core services https://review.opendev.org/676389 | 15:24 |
| yoctozepto | easy stuff, folks, get your hands dirty :-) | 15:25 |
| priteau | I can give it a try, I am not too familiar with this part in K-A | 15:25 |
| hrw | +1 for 2.9 | 15:26 |
| yoctozepto | priteau: perfect, the ideal candidate | 15:26 |
| mnasiadka | well, yoctozepto can guide you in how many places that's done :D | 15:26 |
| mgoddard | priteau: we should do the same in kayobe | 15:26 |
| yoctozepto | or my change really | 15:26 |
| mgoddard | #action priteau to bump minimum Ansible to 2.9 | 15:26 |
| priteau | mgoddard: of course, I know where to change it in Kayobe :-) | 15:26 |
| yoctozepto | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/752420/2 | 15:27 |
| patchbot | patch 752420 - kolla-ansible - [DNM] Test Ansible 2.10.0rc1 - 5 patch sets | 15:27 |
| mgoddard | #topic CI status | 15:27 |
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| mgoddard | how are things looking? | 15:28 |
| mgoddard | whiteboard looks ok | 15:29 |
| mgoddard | ubuntu binary still unhappy | 15:29 |
| priteau | Kayobe is RED :( | 15:29 |
| mgoddard | priteau: any idea what the problem is? I saw you mentioned ansible 2.10 | 15:29 |
| priteau | I'll recheck just to be sure, but I am able to reproduce the issue reliably & locally | 15:30 |
| priteau | Well I thought it was related, but it fails in my tox venv which uses 2.9.13 | 15:30 |
| yoctozepto | it seems k&k-a stabilised a bit | 15:30 |
| priteau | so far I've only found that if we pip3 uninstall ansible, remove the site-package ansible folder and reinstall it, it works | 15:30 |
| yoctozepto | sad ubuntu binary still fails but it's not really our fault... | 15:30 |
| yoctozepto | priteau: :O | 15:31 |
| yoctozepto | MAGIC | 15:31 |
| priteau | and except for the ansible 2.10 release, there were no changes to the other packages in the last days | 15:31 |
| priteau | CI was still green yesterday | 15:31 |
| mgoddard | priteau: are you able to continue looking at it? | 15:31 |
| priteau | yeah I'll try some more | 15:32 |
| mgoddard | #action priteau to investigate kayobe kayobe-tox-molecule failures | 15:32 |
| mgoddard | #topic Victoria release planning | 15:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Victoria release planning (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:32 | |
| mgoddard | Victoria approaches | 15:32 |
| mnasiadka | yoctozepto: I'll look into ubuntu-binary case, I think it can be fixed | 15:33 |
| mgoddard | #action mnasiadka to investigate ubuntu binary CI failures | 15:33 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: superb | 15:33 |
| yoctozepto | will it be a victory for kolla | 15:33 |
| mgoddard | no doubt | 15:34 |
| mgoddard | hrw: what's the current status of infra images? Do you think you'll be able to sort out the CI in time? | 15:34 |
| hrw | hm. good question | 15:35 |
| hrw | will look at making change to have some sort of tree | 15:36 |
| hrw | https://marcin.juszkiewicz.com.pl/2020/09/23/8-years-of-my-work-on-aarch64/ | 15:36 |
| hrw | ops | 15:36 |
| mgoddard | lol | 15:36 |
| mgoddard | this is not an advertising platform :p | 15:36 |
| mnasiadka | no? | 15:37 |
| hrw | mgoddard: if I would like to advertise I would add #link ;D | 15:37 |
| mgoddard | I think we need to decide now whether to pursue for V or not | 15:37 |
| mgoddard | we have basically 1 week left | 15:37 |
| yoctozepto | +/- FFE period | 15:37 |
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| hrw | move to W I would say | 15:38 |
| yoctozepto | then W it is | 15:38 |
| mgoddard | it's a big enough change that FFE seems unfriendly | 15:38 |
| mgoddard | e.g. kayobe will need to react to it | 15:38 |
| hrw | get kolla_infra_install_type for k-a into V | 15:38 |
| mgoddard | ok | 15:38 |
| yoctozepto | we can have an experimental job for infra as well | 15:38 |
| yoctozepto | to just test that it exists | 15:39 |
| mgoddard | the work can continue, but we can drop the review priority | 15:39 |
| hrw | so if you want to be brave then you can build infra+binary/source and install it using k-a in V | 15:39 |
| yoctozepto | much easier than the CI warfare | 15:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Pierre Riteau proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Bump minimum Ansible version to 2.9 https://review.opendev.org/753776 | 15:39 |
| yoctozepto | I felt sad we didn't deliver any support for letsencrypt in this cycle | 15:39 |
| hrw | yoctozepto: https://review.opendev.org/753260 + https://review.opendev.org/706982 and you have base for such CI job | 15:39 |
| patchbot | patch 753260 - kolla - [WIP] add centos8 images for source+infra CI job - 1 patch set | 15:39 |
| patchbot | patch 706982 - kolla-ansible - Introduce 'kolla_infra_install_type' variable - 13 patch sets | 15:39 |
| yoctozepto | so I started upstreaming bite-sized portions of semi-automatic approach now | 15:40 |
| mgoddard | yoctozepto: will it be compatible with the full approach? | 15:41 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: yes, that's the goal | 15:41 |
| mgoddard | ok | 15:41 |
| yoctozepto | it just requires user intervention and docs | 15:41 |
| mgoddard | better be quick then :) | 15:41 |
| yoctozepto | I also left a comment where you asked about cycle | 15:41 |
| yoctozepto | sure, sire | 15:42 |
| mgoddard | priteau: any progress on pull/retag/push? | 15:43 |
| priteau | yes. I have a very rough proof of concept, I need a bit more time to clean it up | 15:43 |
| mgoddard | nice | 15:43 |
| priteau | Honestly not sure we can get it ready for V now | 15:43 |
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| mgoddard | ok | 15:45 |
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| mgoddard | I would very much like to get wuchunyang's work on octavia merged | 15:45 |
| mgoddard | #link https://review.opendev.org/#/q/topic:bp/implement-automatic-deploy-of-octavia+(status:open+OR+status:merged) | 15:46 |
| mgoddard | reviews would be appreciated | 15:46 |
| wuchunyang | need some review now.. | 15:46 |
| mgoddard | I will do another pass through | 15:47 |
| johnsom | I think I have reviewed this stack at least once. I will try to give another pass later today. It was in good shape last time I looked. | 15:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Pierre Riteau proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Bump minimum Ansible version to 2.9 https://review.opendev.org/753776 | 15:48 |
| mgoddard | thanks johnsom | 15:48 |
| wuchunyang | mgoddard johnsom thanks | 15:48 |
| mnasiadka | yoctozepto: seems ubuntu-binary will get solved after all - https://bugs.launchpad.net/cloud-archive/+bug/1893935 | 15:48 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1893935 in Ubuntu Cloud Archive "Missing dependency on vitrageclient and zunclient in master" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 15:48 |
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| mgoddard | good investigative work mnasiadka | 15:48 |
| yoctozepto | mnasiadka: because it hit charms | 15:48 |
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| mgoddard | would also be nice to land keystone federation https://review.opendev.org/#/c/695432/34 | 15:49 |
| patchbot | patch 695432 - kolla-ansible - Add support to OpenID Connect Authentication flow - 34 patch sets | 15:49 |
| mnasiadka | yoctozepto: yeah :) | 15:49 |
| mgoddard | although that needs an update | 15:49 |
| mgoddard | health checks have had some activity | 15:49 |
| mgoddard | https://review.opendev.org/743958 | 15:49 |
| patchbot | patch 743958 - kolla-ansible - Add healthchecks option to kolla_docker - 14 patch sets | 15:49 |
| mgoddard | https://review.opendev.org/676389 | 15:49 |
| patchbot | patch 676389 - kolla-ansible - Use Docker healthchecks for core services - 83 patch sets | 15:49 |
| mgoddard | more reviews welcome | 15:49 |
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| mgoddard | https://review.opendev.org/#/c/728448/ has a +2... | 15:50 |
| patchbot | patch 728448 - kolla-ansible - Support TLS encryption of RabbitMQ client-server t... - 12 patch sets | 15:50 |
| mgoddard | priteau: do you plan to work on kayobe multiple envs before V? | 15:51 |
| priteau | I would like to but it's getting quite late now | 15:53 |
| priteau | (in the cycle) | 15:53 |
| mgoddard | indeed | 15:54 |
| mgoddard | I could see if I can spare some cycles, if that helps? | 15:54 |
| priteau | It would help for sure | 15:55 |
| mgoddard | let's see how the next week goes | 15:55 |
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| mgoddard | any other features for V? | 15:56 |
| wuchunyang | designate ？ | 15:56 |
| wuchunyang | the designate default_pool_id bug has fixed. | 15:57 |
| yoctozepto | that did not happen, unfortunately | 15:57 |
| wuchunyang | i can work on it .. tomorrow. | 15:57 |
| mgoddard | #topic open discussion | 15:58 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:58 | |
| yoctozepto | wuchunyang: that would be awesome | 15:58 |
| mgoddard | kplant mentioned ozzzo is a new colleague, who will be spending some time upstream | 15:58 |
| mgoddard | welcome ozzzo :) | 15:59 |
| yoctozepto | welcome ozzzo indeed | 15:59 |
| kplant | :-) | 15:59 |
| kplant | welcome ozzzo | 15:59 |
| yoctozepto | time to wrap up (for me at least) | 15:59 |
| mgoddard | feel free to drop questions into IRC as you climb the learning curve | 15:59 |
| * yoctozepto afk | 15:59 | |
| mgoddard | indeed, time for us all to wrap up | 15:59 |
| mgoddard | thanks all | 15:59 |
| mgoddard | #endmeeting | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "IRC meetings on Wednesdays @ 15:00 UTC - agenda @ https://goo.gl/OXB0DL | Whiteboard: https://bit.ly/2MM7mWF | IRC channel is *LOGGED* @ http://goo.gl/3mzZ7b" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Sep 23 16:00:12 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2020/kolla.2020-09-23-15.00.html | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2020/kolla.2020-09-23-15.00.txt | 16:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2020/kolla.2020-09-23-15.00.log.html | 16:00 |
| priteau | Regarding the kayobe CI issues | 16:00 |
| priteau | I checked the logs of a successful job yesterday | 16:00 |
| priteau | There's one difference, now ansible-base is getting installed | 16:01 |
| priteau | ansible-base==2.10.1 | 16:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla master: Restore Neutron migrations https://review.opendev.org/753543 | 16:01 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla master: Fix typo and capitalisation in help message https://review.opendev.org/753441 | 16:01 |
| priteau | Although it was released a week ago: https://pypi.org/project/ansible-base/#history | 16:01 |
| mgoddard | priteau: molecule is unchanged? | 16:03 |
| priteau | Yes, still molecule 2.22 | 16:05 |
| openstackgerrit | wu.chunyang proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: remove octavia interface configs https://review.opendev.org/743954 | 16:07 |
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| ozzzo | thanks for the welcome; it's good to be back working on openstack again | 16:08 |
| priteau | mgoddard: Do you know what generates this log file? https://storage.bhs.cloud.ovh.net/v1/AUTH_dcaab5e32b234d56b626f72581e3644c/zuul_opendev_logs_04d/752900/6/check/kayobe-tox-molecule/04dff04/tox/molecule-1.log | 16:09 |
| mgoddard | priteau: tox I think | 16:10 |
| priteau | What may be happening is that first, something installs ansible>=2.8, which is now 2.10.0 since today | 16:10 |
| mgoddard | .tox/molecule/log/ | 16:10 |
| mgoddard | ah | 16:10 |
| priteau | This pulls ansible-base-2.10.1 | 16:10 |
| mgoddard | could be molecule pulling that in | 16:11 |
| priteau | Then in the same venv, we reinstall 2.9.13 | 16:11 |
| mgoddard | maybe we need to reorder? | 16:11 |
| priteau | But ansible-base is still there | 16:11 |
| mgoddard | if we install ansible 2.9 first, it won't pull in ansible-base | 16:12 |
| mgoddard | then if molecule is satisfied by that, it shouldn't chang eit | 16:13 |
| * mgoddard thinks | 16:13 | |
| priteau | I am trying to add requirements.txt to the molecule tox deps | 16:17 |
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| priteau | I think it's working, thanks a lot mgoddard! | 16:20 |
| openstackgerrit | James Kirsch proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add support for encrypting Ironic API https://review.opendev.org/751543 | 16:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pierre Riteau proposed openstack/kayobe master: CI: Fix kayobe-tox-molecule job https://review.opendev.org/753791 | 16:35 |
| priteau | ^^^ I hope this fixes it | 16:35 |
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