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| openstackgerrit | wu.chunyang proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: update octavia doc https://review.opendev.org/746409 | 02:50 |
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| shyamb | Hi | 05:52 |
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| yoctozepto | morning | 06:39 |
| yoctozepto | mloza: how so? | 06:39 |
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| mgoddard | morning | 07:50 |
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| mnasiadka | morning | 08:09 |
| mgoddard | yoctozepto: bad luck with TC. Still, it was a close run for 4th, and if the TC wasn't being shrunk you'd have made it in :) | 08:09 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: sure, last time I was right below the bar as well :-) | 08:10 |
| mgoddard | next time | 08:10 |
| mgoddard | a lot of it is about familiarity. Keep making noise on the ML and you'll attract some followers | 08:11 |
| mgoddard | yoctozepto: it is also about how many colleagues you have... | 08:11 |
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| rohit02 | hi team does ussuri kolla ansible supports all endpoints on ssl | 08:13 |
| osmanlicilegi | morning | 08:20 |
| yoctozepto | rohit02: nope, only mentioned in the release notes | 08:20 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: true that; though I'm not particularly fit for getting that kind of attention... | 08:21 |
| rohit02 | yoctozepto: internal and admin endpoints on ssl works right? | 08:23 |
| yoctozepto | rohit02: ah, if you mean haproxy endpoints, then all support ssl, yes | 08:24 |
| yoctozepto | rohit02: I meant the backend endpoints | 08:24 |
| yoctozepto | rohit02: as in from haproxy to apis | 08:24 |
| rohit02 | yoctozepto: thanx | 08:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/stein: Performance: use a single config file for fluentd https://review.opendev.org/757817 | 08:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla stable/stein: Bump versions for Stein https://review.opendev.org/757566 | 09:24 |
| openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla stable/train: Bump versions for Train https://review.opendev.org/758047 | 09:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible master: baremetal: Install iptables for Docker if enabled https://review.opendev.org/756891 | 09:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla stable/ussuri: Add sysfsutils to nova-compute ubuntu source https://review.opendev.org/758051 | 09:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla stable/train: Add sysfsutils to nova-compute ubuntu source https://review.opendev.org/758052 | 09:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla stable/stein: Add sysfsutils to nova-compute ubuntu source https://review.opendev.org/758053 | 09:36 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla stable/ussuri: Improve pip install process for offline deployment. https://review.opendev.org/758054 | 09:39 |
| openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla stable/train: Improve pip install process for offline deployment. https://review.opendev.org/758057 | 09:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla stable/ussuri: Checks for heat_user_domain explicitly https://review.opendev.org/758058 | 09:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla stable/train: Checks for heat_user_domain explicitly https://review.opendev.org/758059 | 09:44 |
| openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla stable/stein: Checks for heat_user_domain explicitly https://review.opendev.org/758060 | 09:45 |
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| mnasiadka | backports flood ;) | 09:57 |
| mgoddard | that's just kolla | 10:02 |
| openstackgerrit | Michal Nasiadka proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Fix fernet cron path on Ubuntu/Debian https://review.opendev.org/757076 | 10:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/ussuri: Delete the /var/log/kolla directory should use sudo https://review.opendev.org/758064 | 10:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/train: Delete the /var/log/kolla directory should use sudo https://review.opendev.org/758065 | 10:14 |
| openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/stein: Delete the /var/log/kolla directory should use sudo https://review.opendev.org/758066 | 10:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/ussuri: Fix glance-tls-proxy logrotate and fluentd log permissions https://review.opendev.org/758067 | 10:16 |
| openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/ussuri: replace internal with openstack_interface https://review.opendev.org/758068 | 10:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/train: replace internal with openstack_interface https://review.opendev.org/758069 | 10:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Michal Nasiadka proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add log for cron script fernet-rotate.sh https://review.opendev.org/756083 | 10:17 |
| openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/ussuri: baremetal: Install iptables for Docker if enabled https://review.opendev.org/758070 | 10:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/train: baremetal: Install iptables for Docker if enabled https://review.opendev.org/758071 | 10:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kayobe stable/ussuri: Performance: skip LVM configuration if no groups configured https://review.opendev.org/758073 | 10:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kayobe stable/train: Performance: skip LVM configuration if no groups configured https://review.opendev.org/758074 | 10:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kayobe stable/stein: Performance: skip LVM configuration if no groups configured https://review.opendev.org/758075 | 10:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kayobe stable/ussuri: Add missing barbican.conf support https://review.opendev.org/758076 | 10:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kayobe stable/train: Add missing barbican.conf support https://review.opendev.org/758077 | 10:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible stable/train: docs: Add information on migrating to CentOS 8 https://review.opendev.org/757133 | 10:40 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible stable/train: docs: more info on migrating from CentOS 7 to 8 https://review.opendev.org/757519 | 10:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: docs: add info on adding and removing hosts https://review.opendev.org/758085 | 10:51 |
| yoctozepto | well, that was a flood | 10:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rafael Weingärtner proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Feature to manage public endpoints via DNS names https://review.opendev.org/757847 | 11:15 |
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| priteau | Is there a way to skip service registration tasks when we know nothing's going to change? (for example when deploying a new hypervisor) | 11:44 |
| priteau | I trying skipping the always tag, but that skips all roles | 11:44 |
| yoctozepto | priteau: that sounds like a good topic for the ptg - what should be easier to skip - operators might know what to usually optimize away | 12:37 |
| yoctozepto | priteau: please add | 12:38 |
| priteau | Yes sir! | 12:38 |
| mgoddard | I like the idea of reconfigure doing this | 12:47 |
| mgoddard | skip bootstrap and register | 12:47 |
| yoctozepto | ^ +2 | 12:47 |
| priteau | ^ -1? If a configuration change implies changing the endpoint URLs (e.g. enable tls), I would expect reconfigure to handle it. | 12:55 |
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| mgoddard | priteau: then use deploy | 12:56 |
| mgoddard | my main arguments against it are that it would be a behaviour change, and could be confusing | 12:57 |
| yoctozepto | we also don't remove old endpoints really | 12:57 |
| mgoddard | alternatively we add tags | 12:57 |
| yoctozepto | why not both | 12:57 |
| yoctozepto | we have upgrade notes for that reason | 12:57 |
| priteau | Do you envision that reconfigure should only be limited to update the on-disk configuration? (nova.conf, etc.) | 12:57 |
| mgoddard | yes | 12:58 |
| yoctozepto | it could also be a different command | 12:58 |
| yoctozepto | if you can imagine the name | 12:58 |
| mgoddard | kolla-ansible reconfigure-without-register-or-bootstrap | 12:58 |
| priteau | The use case I have in mind is to deploy a new hypervisor, there's no need to check all endpoints for that | 13:02 |
| priteau | But it would feel a bit odd to run reconfigure to deploy a fresh hypervisor | 13:02 |
| priteau | Unless you view it as a reconfiguration (extension) of the cloud as a whole | 13:02 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: nice one | 13:05 |
| mgoddard | priteau: true | 13:05 |
| mgoddard | I'd be happy with tags | 13:05 |
| yoctozepto | priteau, mgoddard: we could also just deprecate the 'reconfigure' alias | 13:05 |
| yoctozepto | and go with tags | 13:05 |
| yoctozepto | and docs for them | 13:05 |
| yoctozepto | more docs - less questions | 13:06 |
| priteau | Confusion between deploy and reconfigure is something that comes up frequently | 13:06 |
| yoctozepto | yeah, in the simplest questions | 13:06 |
| yoctozepto | should I run ... | 13:06 |
| mgoddard | it's a bit mean to just remove it though | 13:06 |
| yoctozepto | and the answer is: it does not matter | 13:06 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: deprecate and stop mentioning in docs | 13:06 |
| mgoddard | we could do that | 13:07 |
| yoctozepto | and alias completely to deploy internally | 13:07 |
| mgoddard | literally make it an alias, and document it as such | 13:07 |
| yoctozepto | to avoid last bastions of confusion | 13:07 |
| yoctozepto | +2 | 13:07 |
| yoctozepto | do we want it to happen already in Victoria? ;p | 13:07 |
| mgoddard | we might need to finally fit swift to the "new" format | 13:07 |
| yoctozepto | ah, right | 13:08 |
| yoctozepto | and what about bifrost? | 13:08 |
| mgoddard | different commands | 13:15 |
| dougsz | I know the oldskool Swift role frequently bites people with not restarting containers after new config is applied | 13:17 |
| mgoddard | I don't know why it got left behind | 13:17 |
| mgoddard | maybe we should push on it for W | 13:17 |
| mgoddard | added to PTG agenda | 13:19 |
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| * osmanlicilegi bbl | 13:35 | |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kayobe master: Fix failures in Docker storage driver check https://review.opendev.org/757952 | 14:45 |
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| mgoddard | mgoddard mnasiadka hrw egonzalez yoctozepto rafaelweingartne cosmicsound osmanlicilegi bbezak | 14:51 |
| mgoddard | ^ meeting in 10 minutes | 14:51 |
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| wuchunyang | it seems much quiet today | 14:58 |
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| yoctozepto | o/ | 15:01 |
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| yoctozepto | oh, no meeting yet | 15:01 |
| yoctozepto | xD | 15:01 |
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| yoctozepto | mgoddard | 15:01 |
| mgoddard | wake up mgoddard | 15:02 |
| mgoddard | #startmeeting kolla | 15:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Oct 14 15:02:14 2020 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mgoddard. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kolla' | 15:02 |
| mgoddard | #topic rollcall | 15:02 |
| yoctozepto | o/ | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "rollcall (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:02 | |
| mgoddard | \o | 15:02 |
| rafaelweingartne | \o | 15:02 |
| yoctozepto | \o/ | 15:02 |
| engel75 | \o | 15:02 |
| priteau | o/ | 15:03 |
| wuchunyang | \o | 15:03 |
| mgoddard | #topic agenda | 15:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "agenda (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:04 | |
| mgoddard | * Roll-call | 15:04 |
| mgoddard | * Announcements | 15:04 |
| mgoddard | ** OpenStack Victoria released | 15:04 |
| mgoddard | ** Kolla now in feature freeze | 15:04 |
| mgoddard | ** Submit Virtual PTG topic proposals: https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/kolla-wallaby-ptg | 15:04 |
| mgoddard | * Review action items from the last meeting | 15:04 |
| mgoddard | * CI status | 15:04 |
| mgoddard | * DNS-based endpoint naming https://review.opendev.org/#/c/757847/ | 15:04 |
| patchbot | patch 757847 - kolla-ansible - Feature to manage public endpoints via DNS names - 4 patch sets | 15:04 |
| mgoddard | * Victoria release planning | 15:05 |
| mgoddard | ** Review deprecations and other planned removals | 15:05 |
| mgoddard | * Wallaby PTG planning | 15:05 |
| mgoddard | #topic announcements | 15:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:05 | |
| mgoddard | #info OpenStack Victoria released | 15:05 |
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| mgoddard | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2020-October/017959.html | 15:06 |
| mgoddard | #info Kolla now in feature freeze | 15:06 |
| mgoddard | #info Submit Virtual PTG topic proposals | 15:06 |
| mgoddard | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/kolla-wallaby-ptg | 15:06 |
| mgoddard | Any others? | 15:06 |
| yoctozepto | na-ah | 15:07 |
| mgoddard | #topic Review action items from the last meeting | 15:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review action items from the last meeting (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:07 | |
| mgoddard | mgoddard get octavia CI job passing in order to merge patches | 15:07 |
| mgoddard | done | 15:07 |
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| mgoddard | #topic CI status | 15:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "CI status (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:09 | |
| mgoddard | kolla | 15:09 |
| mgoddard | NFV job broken due to lack of Aodh for Tacker/Heat | 15:09 |
| mgoddard | I wonder if its as simple as enabling aodh | 15:09 |
| mgoddard | anyone care to try? | 15:09 |
| mgoddard | ok | 15:11 |
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| mgoddard | Bifrost should be fixed on stein once we merge https://review.opendev.org/757566 | 15:11 |
| patchbot | patch 757566 - kolla (stable/stein) - Bump versions for Stein - 3 patch sets | 15:11 |
| mgoddard | Rocky is probably a no go | 15:11 |
| mgoddard | Kolla Ansible | 15:12 |
| yoctozepto | rocky is em | 15:12 |
| yoctozepto | no care | 15:12 |
| mgoddard | claims to be AMBER, but I can't see why | 15:12 |
| yoctozepto | lemme seeeee | 15:12 |
| yoctozepto | noo, it's GREEEN | 15:13 |
| mgoddard | good | 15:14 |
| mgoddard | kayobe is also green | 15:14 |
| mgoddard | #topic DNS-based endpoint naming https://review.opendev.org/#/c/757847/ | 15:14 |
| patchbot | patch 757847 - kolla-ansible - Feature to manage public endpoints via DNS names - 4 patch sets | 15:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "DNS-based endpoint naming https://review.opendev.org/#/c/757847/ (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:14 | |
| mgoddard | rafaelweingartne proposed this patch | 15:14 |
| rafaelweingartne | yes | 15:14 |
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| mgoddard | could you give a quick overview? | 15:14 |
| rafaelweingartne | yes, this is a second step of a series of proposals that we have prepared. I guess you remember we did a major review of the URLs in Kolla-ansible, to normalize their uses | 15:15 |
| yoctozepto | yes | 15:16 |
| yoctozepto | unforgettable | 15:16 |
| yoctozepto | :-) | 15:16 |
| rafaelweingartne | :) | 15:16 |
| rafaelweingartne | for me too | 15:16 |
| rafaelweingartne | The idea is to allow/enable operators to configure URLs/endpoints that are standard from a user perspective | 15:16 |
| rafaelweingartne | by standard here, I mean, using standard ports 80/443 | 15:16 |
| rafaelweingartne | Therefore, to deal with that, we need to execute redirects/forward HTTP requests based on DNS names of the components/services | 15:17 |
| yoctozepto | oh, that would be awesome | 15:17 |
| yoctozepto | yeah, proxy them | 15:17 |
| rafaelweingartne | We all of this working internally, but to avoid the nightmare of another mega huge patch | 15:17 |
| rafaelweingartne | we will be introducing bit by bit | 15:17 |
| rafaelweingartne | the first step if to enable us to generate/configure public endpoints based on a basic company DNS name | 15:18 |
| rafaelweingartne | that is what this patch is introducing | 15:18 |
| rafaelweingartne | of course, the patchset is not self contained, as it would depend on an operator to configure a proxy to handle the names | 15:18 |
| rafaelweingartne | but, after we introduce mechanisms to handle the URL/endpoints generation, we can introduce a role to do exactly that | 15:19 |
| rafaelweingartne | with HAproxy or some other web proxy | 15:19 |
| rafaelweingartne | "We all of this working internally" -> "We already have this working internally" | 15:19 |
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| yoctozepto | hmm, hmm; would not it be better to expose these on different paths though | 15:20 |
| yoctozepto | but yeah, names are acceptable too | 15:20 |
| mgoddard | so that question is why I wanted to discuss this here | 15:20 |
| yoctozepto | web-wise names are better separation | 15:21 |
| rafaelweingartne | that is a good question, for us, it felt more natural to use the server name instead of query paths | 15:21 |
| mgoddard | there are various ways this could be done | 15:21 |
| yoctozepto | but these are not really strictly web services | 15:21 |
| yoctozepto | so paths are just as fine | 15:21 |
| yoctozepto | and probably easier in regular maintenance | 15:21 |
| yoctozepto | (and also to implement) | 15:21 |
| yoctozepto | devstack does paths | 15:21 |
| yoctozepto | we should encourage the move away from magic ports, yes | 15:21 |
| mgoddard | my feeling is we should expose the variables to be able to do this in various ways | 15:22 |
| yoctozepto | +2 | 15:22 |
| mgoddard | the current patch looks to me like it forces quite a specific pattern, and adds quite a lot of overhead to do so | 15:22 |
| engel75 | a flexible solution sounds good | 15:22 |
| rafaelweingartne | yes, it forces that pattern of server names | 15:22 |
| mgoddard | the alternative would require more work for the operator, as they would need to override more variables | 15:23 |
| engel75 | kolla-ansible is already ver flexible | 15:23 |
| mgoddard | but would be more flexible | 15:23 |
| mgoddard | if we could easily specify the FQDN, port and path per-service, would that be enough? | 15:23 |
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| mgoddard | do your later patches depend on a specific format? | 15:23 |
| rafaelweingartne | yes, everything we did so far is based on server names | 15:24 |
| mgoddard | while its nice to have bite sized things to review, in terms of a design it would help if we could see the big picture in more detail | 15:25 |
| mgoddard | "bite sized" for anyone who reviewed the last patch :D | 15:26 |
| rafaelweingartne | I am looking at the patch now, and we already extracted the URLs, with the first patch we introduced "<component>_<interface>_base_endpoint" | 15:26 |
| rafaelweingartne | therefore, it is already possible to override them | 15:26 |
| mgoddard | right | 15:27 |
| rafaelweingartne | The only said thing is that the person doing the job would have to do it manually (either for server name or context path) | 15:27 |
| rafaelweingartne | sad* | 15:27 |
| mgoddard | if we can come up with a nice pattern, it could be documented | 15:28 |
| mgoddard | I think in order to change my mind I'd want to see a few people saying yes, I want to deploy OpenStack this way, and I'd like it to be really easy to do | 15:28 |
| priteau | I've done customisation of URLs in this pattern a while ago for a deployment, as early as Queens | 15:29 |
| mgoddard | (of course my opinion is just one of many) | 15:29 |
| priteau | It was customising the HAProxy template which was the more complex part, not customising endpoint variables | 15:29 |
| rafaelweingartne | at least now, it is easier to work with these URLs, as we are consistently using the same variables around the code | 15:29 |
| mgoddard | right | 15:29 |
| rafaelweingartne | What if we only document the way we manage these URLs for the endpoints, and then we introduce a variable to indicate for kolla-ansible what is the configurations we want in the proxy | 15:30 |
| mgoddard | if we don't have this patch, and just set the URLs, is it possible to do what you want with HAProxy, to avoid the issue priteau had? | 15:30 |
| rafaelweingartne | then, we would have something like "server_name_based_proxy: true" or "context_path_redirects: true" or something similar | 15:31 |
| rafaelweingartne | mgoddard: yes, it is | 15:31 |
| rafaelweingartne | I just wanted to facilitate the URLs generation, but as long as they are already externalized, if we document it, it is easy to work with it | 15:32 |
| mgoddard | would it have to dissect the URL to determine the FQDN/path to match on? | 15:32 |
| rafaelweingartne | Kolla-ansible no, basically, we would just register the URLs as it is done already, and then we need a new role to configure the proxy server | 15:33 |
| rafaelweingartne | that would either work with server names or context paths | 15:33 |
| mgoddard | what proxy server would be used? | 15:34 |
| rafaelweingartne | we are using HAproxy, but I guess we can use any one of the available out there | 15:34 |
| rafaelweingartne | in the containers we already use HTTPD, but Kolla-ansible has a role for HAproxy | 15:35 |
| priteau | I don't understand what role plays a new proxy in this. Why can't this be integrated directly in the HAProxy external API config? | 15:35 |
| engel75 | it should be possible to deploy a 2nd proxy | 15:35 |
| rafaelweingartne | priteau: are you asking about the current HAproxy role? | 15:36 |
| mgoddard | I think this needs a write up | 15:36 |
| rafaelweingartne | yes, that might be a good idea | 15:36 |
| engel75 | from a security perspective it is good practice to run that "external" proxy in a DMZ | 15:36 |
| priteau | I meant role not in an Ansible way. | 15:37 |
| mgoddard | could you write up an overview of the changes you'd like to make, and how you see the feature working overall? | 15:37 |
| rafaelweingartne | engel75: you mean, placing the proxy out of the control nodes, but we could do that right now? couldn't we? If we define a custom set of hosts for that role | 15:37 |
| mgoddard | it doesn't need to be a full spec, just enough to let us see what you are aiming for | 15:38 |
| rafaelweingartne | mgoddard: yes, I can | 15:38 |
| rafaelweingartne | I will prepare a brief spec, and then we can move on from there | 15:38 |
| mgoddard | thanks | 15:38 |
| mgoddard | if we have it in time for the PTG, we can discuss it there | 15:39 |
| mgoddard | I'll add it to the agenda | 15:39 |
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| engel75 | rafaelweingartne yes but if a FW is sitting in between access from all those services to the Haproxy would be blocked | 15:39 |
| rafaelweingartne | mgoddard: Sure, I guess, it is possible. | 15:40 |
| engel75 | so I would like to be able to deploy two haproxys | 15:40 |
| mgoddard | I think we should move on | 15:41 |
| engel75 | ok | 15:41 |
| mgoddard | thanks for discussing this, we can take it to the PTG | 15:41 |
| rafaelweingartne | sure | 15:41 |
| mgoddard | engel75: feel free to add your thoughts to the item in https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/kolla-wallaby-ptg | 15:41 |
| mgoddard | #topic Victoria release planning | 15:42 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Victoria release planning (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:42 | |
| mgoddard | Subtopic Review deprecations and other planned removals | 15:42 |
| mgoddard | I guess this was yoctozepto? | 15:43 |
| yoctozepto | yesss | 15:43 |
| mgoddard | #link https://docs.openstack.org/releasenotes/kolla/ussuri.html | 15:43 |
| mgoddard | start will kolla | 15:44 |
| yoctozepto | I noticed we have the vmware revert proposed | 15:44 |
| mgoddard | *with | 15:44 |
| yoctozepto | I mean vmware deprececation reno* | 15:44 |
| alistarle | Hi | 15:44 |
| mgoddard | #link https://review.opendev.org/747512 | 15:45 |
| patchbot | patch 747512 - kolla-ansible - Revert VMware deprecated note - 1 patch set | 15:45 |
| mgoddard | hi alistarle, we're just in a meeting currently | 15:45 |
| mgoddard | finished in 15 | 15:45 |
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| alistarle | Yup no problem, it was just for discussing about the VMware deprecation if it is needed | 15:45 |
| alistarle | as you mention in the patch set | 15:45 |
| mgoddard | oh right, cool | 15:46 |
| mgoddard | so, we have 3 options | 15:46 |
| mgoddard | 1. remove vmware support | 15:46 |
| mgoddard | 2. keep vmware support deprecated and wait for $something | 15:46 |
| mgoddard | 3. undeprecate vmware | 15:47 |
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| mgoddard | anyone have strong feelings? | 15:47 |
| yoctozepto | only weak | 15:47 |
| alistarle | On our side, we already have KVM-based deployment and we need to expose vmware services too, that's why we wanted to continue using Openstack and kolla | 15:48 |
| alistarle | we are currently building the platform using vmware in kolla but it still require more effort our side to fully open in production, but it looks very promising | 15:49 |
| alistarle | we until here only see two little bugs, one is already merged and the other will be submitted soon (and it concern all non-OVS deployment actually) | 15:49 |
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| mgoddard | my opinion is that vmware support does not require much maintenance from us, and if it is useful to someone then we should keep it | 15:50 |
| wuchunyang | agree | 15:50 |
| mgoddard | was there some discussion about nova dropping vmware support, or have I made that up? | 15:50 |
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| alistarle | vmware itself propose an openstack distribution, which is not even deprecated, so I think it is still up to date | 15:51 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: there was | 15:51 |
| yoctozepto | not remember what the decision was | 15:51 |
| mgoddard | ok | 15:52 |
| mgoddard | well I suppose that would be out of our hands | 15:52 |
| alistarle | Latest version from VMware is from July, based on train : https://docs.vmware.com/en/VMware-Integrated-OpenStack/7.0/rn/VMware-Integrated-OpenStack-70-Release-Notes.html | 15:52 |
| yoctozepto | https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/nova-victoria-ptg | 15:52 |
| yoctozepto | line 388 | 15:52 |
| yoctozepto | AGREED: enahnce the deprecation signal to say it is not just deprecated but it is also marked for deletion in a coming cycle. Ask the VMware folks to make the 3pp CI working. gibi will start the communication. | 15:53 |
| mgoddard | seems like they are pushing vmware to fix the CI | 15:54 |
| yoctozepto | might be | 15:55 |
| yoctozepto | so undeprecate? rephrase? | 15:55 |
| mgoddard | nova v renos: VMWare virt driver is now supported again in Victoria after being deprecated during the Ussuri release, as testing issues have been addressed. | 15:56 |
| mgoddard | https://docs.openstack.org/releasenotes/nova/victoria.html | 15:56 |
| mgoddard | their plan worked | 15:56 |
| mgoddard | any objections to kolla undeprecating VMWare support? | 15:56 |
| openstackgerrit | Pierre Riteau proposed openstack/kayobe master: Fix "Wait for the ironic node to be inspected" task https://review.opendev.org/758202 | 15:57 |
| yoctozepto | none, it's low maintenance, and if we break anything, then, well, that's life on the edge of no testing coverage :-) | 15:58 |
| mgoddard | #action undeprecate VMware | 15:58 |
| mgoddard | #topic Wallaby PTG | 15:58 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Wallaby PTG (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:58 | |
| mgoddard | Please add topics https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/kolla-wallaby-ptg | 15:58 |
| mgoddard | #topic Open discussion | 15:58 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:58 | |
| mgoddard | Does anyone have anything else to discuss? | 15:58 |
| priteau | What is the plan for https://review.opendev.org/#/c/751795/ | 15:59 |
| patchbot | patch 751795 - kolla-ansible - Disable Docker iptables and bridge networking by d... - 2 patch sets | 15:59 |
| priteau | I believe we have in-tree some warnings about default behaviour change in Victoria | 15:59 |
| priteau | And some release notes of course | 15:59 |
| mgoddard | it didn't work for me in CI: https://review.opendev.org/751982 | 15:59 |
| patchbot | patch 751982 - kolla-ansible - DNM: test kolla build without iptables or bridge - 3 patch sets | 15:59 |
| priteau | And that's with host networking? | 16:00 |
| mgoddard | yes | 16:00 |
| mgoddard | CI always uses host networking | 16:00 |
| priteau | I'll give it a try in a local env | 16:00 |
| priteau | Should we revert the mentions of behaviour change in Victoria then? | 16:01 |
| priteau | And leave it to Wallaby when more tested | 16:01 |
| mgoddard | yes, we should revert mentions of behaviour change, and add them tohttps://review.opendev.org/#/c/751795/ | 16:02 |
| patchbot | patch 751795 - kolla-ansible - Disable Docker iptables and bridge networking by d... - 2 patch sets | 16:02 |
| mgoddard | (or work out why that doesn't pass, fix it, then merge) | 16:02 |
| priteau | Even if we fixed the issue in the coming days, it could be too close to release? | 16:03 |
| mgoddard | possibly | 16:03 |
| mgoddard | the issue is quite annoying though | 16:03 |
| mgoddard | ok, let's leave it there | 16:04 |
| mgoddard | Thanks all | 16:04 |
| mgoddard | #endmeeting | 16:04 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Oct 14 16:04:43 2020 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:04 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2020/kolla.2020-10-14-15.02.html | 16:04 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2020/kolla.2020-10-14-15.02.txt | 16:04 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2020/kolla.2020-10-14-15.02.log.html | 16:04 |
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| wuchunyang | mgoddard i noticed that ansible gathers facts is too slow when we have huge vm tap devices. | 16:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Revert VMware deprecation https://review.opendev.org/747512 | 16:12 |
| mgoddard | wuchunyang: fact gathering can be slow, yes | 16:13 |
| mgoddard | more of an ansible issue though | 16:13 |
| priteau | fact caching can help | 16:13 |
| mgoddard | +1 | 16:14 |
| mgoddard | we do make things worse when you use --limit though | 16:14 |
| priteau | And mgoddard put a lot of work in making fact caching work well :-) | 16:14 |
| wuchunyang | yeah,,it there a good way to improve this ? | 16:14 |
| mgoddard | fact caching | 16:14 |
| wuchunyang | is there docs about caching ? | 16:15 |
| wuchunyang | thanks :-) | 16:15 |
| mgoddard | https://docs.openstack.org/kayobe/latest/configuration/reference/ansible.html#fact-caching | 16:15 |
| mgoddard | I should translate that for kolla-ansible | 16:15 |
| wuchunyang | thanks mgoddard | 16:15 |
| mgoddard | but it is close enough | 16:15 |
| wuchunyang | i know, just alter the ansible.cfg file. | 16:17 |
| priteau | I am seeing an issue in a-universe-from-nothing master branch, where provisioning overcloud nodes fails with a big backtrace from bifrost. In the middle there are hints about SSH issues: Please login as the user \"centos\" rather than the user \"root\" | 16:20 |
| priteau | It looks like Ansible is SSH'ing from inside the bifrost container to the host running the container | 16:21 |
| mgoddard | priteau: hmm, are we missing connection=local somewhere? | 16:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: docs: Add information on tuning Ansible https://review.opendev.org/758205 | 16:22 |
| wuchunyang | mgoddard. though we have not decide whether to merge this ps https://review.opendev.org/#/c/755589/ . but i would be nice for ci or test purpose. i want to work on this, bu i don't know wheter this is no meaning. | 16:22 |
| patchbot | patch 755589 - kolla-ansible - octavia: support tenant management network - 11 patch sets | 16:22 |
| wuchunyang | bu - but | 16:23 |
| mgoddard | wuchunyang: I think we agreed to merge it | 16:23 |
| mgoddard | with a 'tech preview' flag | 16:23 |
| mgoddard | and change the default to provider | 16:23 |
| wuchunyang | ok, thanks ,, i will alter the patch for test purpost .. | 16:24 |
| yoctozepto | more 'experimental' though; with no compatibility promise ever | 16:25 |
| priteau | mgoddard: I am not familiar with the ansible parts of bifrost. I see there is a python script as inventory, but it hasn't changed since 2015 | 16:25 |
| wuchunyang | yoctozepto yeah. just for CI, test or poc | 16:26 |
| mgoddard | priteau: I think it has changed since then? | 16:26 |
| priteau | commit 8d878e6268d969618f56449bd033a442da2086f4 | 16:26 |
| priteau | Author: Julia Kreger <juliaashleykreger@gmail.com> | 16:26 |
| priteau | AuthorDate: Wed Nov 4 15:58:31 2015 -0500 | 16:26 |
| priteau | That's the last change I see | 16:26 |
| priteau | Oh, there's another file | 16:27 |
| priteau | I was looking at playbooks/inventory/bifrost_inventory.py | 16:28 |
| priteau | But there is bifrost/inventory.py | 16:28 |
| mgoddard | symlink | 16:28 |
| priteau | heh, good catch | 16:29 |
| priteau | So there is a playbooks/inventory/localhost file in bifrost source, but I don't find it in the deployed service | 16:30 |
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| priteau | I see `--connection local` is not used in the call for provisioning | 16:34 |
| priteau | I'll try adding it | 16:35 |
| openstackgerrit | wu.chunyang proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: update octavia doc https://review.opendev.org/746409 | 16:37 |
| openstackgerrit | wu.chunyang proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: update octavia doc https://review.opendev.org/746409 | 16:40 |
| openstackgerrit | wu.chunyang proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: update octavia doc https://review.opendev.org/746409 | 16:41 |
| priteau | It fails in a different way | 16:41 |
| priteau | Looking at a train deployment, the output of the inventory script is similar anyway | 16:41 |
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| Fl1nt | Hi everyoen | 16:56 |
| Fl1nt | everyone :D | 16:56 |
| priteau | mgoddard: I traced it to this change, once I revert just this one line, it proceeds further: https://review.opendev.org/#/c/748230/4/playbooks/roles/bifrost-cloud-config/tasks/main.yml | 16:58 |
| patchbot | patch 748230 - bifrost - Move services to internal_ip by default and refact... (MERGED) - 4 patch sets | 16:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla master: rally: Add rally-openstack https://review.opendev.org/757542 | 16:58 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Revert VMware deprecation https://review.opendev.org/747512 | 16:58 |
| priteau | Next error is "When setting an instance to present, instance_info is a required variable." | 16:59 |
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| Fl1nt | hum... does anyone already had an issue with neutron-l3-agent and neutron-openvswitch-agent on a CentOS-8 distribution where those containers aren't able to perform iptables actions? | 17:02 |
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| priteau | I've not seen thi | 17:04 |
| priteau | this | 17:04 |
| priteau | Is selinux disable on the host? | 17:05 |
| Fl1nt | yes as well as firewalld, it make me crazy, I can't find why that error is poping up. | 17:05 |
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| Fl1nt | I find out that we call update-alternatives, but I don't know if it is contained on CentOS 8 image. | 17:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible stable/ussuri: Performance: optimize genconfig https://review.opendev.org/757799 | 17:46 |
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| ozzzo | Fl1nt: I don't think centos 8 has iptables; they have nft and firewall-cmd instead | 18:06 |
| ozzzo | you can install iptables on 7; i'm not sure about 8, but it for sure isn't there by default | 18:09 |
| ozzzo | it's a link to nft, and your iptables rules will probably need to be updated to work with nft | 18:11 |
| mgoddard | Fl1nt: are you still mixing C7 and C8? | 18:15 |
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| mgoddard | priteau: perhaps we need to set internal_ip to localhost? | 18:17 |
| mgoddard | priteau: unsure why it doesn't work via the api interface though | 18:20 |
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| Fl1nt | @ozzzo, yes, but that exactly why there is a test that use update-alternative to test for iptables existance. | 18:50 |
| Fl1nt | mgoddard, yep unfortunately, I can't migrate to host C8 until we don't get podman support as we've a hyperconverged installation with CEPH and Openstack on the same hosts, which mean that ceph-ansible being nuts it doesn't let you choose for the container runtime on C8 and use podman. | 18:51 |
| Fl1nt | while technically I can run docker and podman on the same host in parallel, I'm not really kine to do it as I feel there will be more weird behavior involved. | 18:52 |
| Fl1nt | I think I'll just rollback everything on C7 and better plan our migration to C8 | 18:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kayobe stable/ussuri: Performance: skip LVM configuration if no groups configured https://review.opendev.org/758073 | 20:02 |
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| openstackgerrit | Pierre Riteau proposed openstack/kayobe master: Fix overcloud provisioning with newer Bifrost https://review.opendev.org/758252 | 21:06 |
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