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openstackgerrit | ZhouHeng proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Replace db-sock with db-nb-sock and db-sb-sock https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/771594 | 00:51 |
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openstackgerrit | Kevin Zhao proposed openstack/kolla stable/ussuri: [DNM] add rbd-iscsi-client as a dependencies https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/772615 | 01:56 |
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yoctozepto | morning koalas | 07:12 |
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openstackgerrit | Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Edit services roles to support database sharding https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/770216 | 07:25 |
openstackgerrit | Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: [CI] Enable proxysql test https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/770621 | 07:25 |
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kevko | morning | 09:06 |
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kevko | yoctozepto: was checking jobs at night :) | 09:08 |
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kevko | yoctozepto: here ? | 09:13 |
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yoctozepto | kevko: here | 09:20 |
openstackgerrit | Pierre Riteau proposed openstack/kayobe stable/train: Fix Python setup when venv is not used https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/764511 | 09:20 |
openstackgerrit | Pierre Riteau proposed openstack/kayobe stable/train: Fix /tmp/swift-rings/backups/ files deletion https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/771928 | 09:21 |
kevko | yoctozepto: tests failed .. you don't have rendered config in proxysql for shard user .. | 09:31 |
kevko | yoctozepto: and i've leaved a comment few seconds ago ... curious if it could be done by different way | 09:31 |
openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla stable/stein: CI: Use Docker proxy for pulls + Ruby fixes + get_pip https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/772490 | 09:32 |
kevko | yoctozepto: ok, i know why you failed tests ... you changed shard root user from shard_x to root_shard_x .. | 09:40 |
kevko | yoctozepto: but didn't changed in os services defaults | 09:40 |
kevko | example : aodh_database_shard_root_user: "{% if enable_proxysql | bool %}shard_{{ aodh_database_shard_id }}{% else %}{{ database_user }}{% endif %}" | 09:40 |
yoctozepto | kevko: yeas, as well as the default id | 09:41 |
yoctozepto | I need to adapt both now | 09:41 |
yoctozepto | possibly refactoring the prefix | 09:41 |
yoctozepto | to have some sanity | 09:41 |
kevko | yoctozepto: really ? i see 0 in https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/770216/22/ansible/group_vars/all.yml | 09:41 |
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kevko | yoctozepto: can we then add some test which is also testing two shards ? and maybe two services splitted to shards ? | 09:43 |
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openstackgerrit | wu.chunyang proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: CI: octavia: create and test a load balancer https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/754285 | 09:46 |
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yoctozepto | kevko: I have updated the patch today :D | 09:46 |
yoctozepto | but missed the prefix | 09:46 |
yoctozepto | if you have some time, please patch it | 09:47 |
yoctozepto | I'm a little busy now | 09:47 |
openstackgerrit | wu.chunyang proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: CI: octavia: create and test a load balancer https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/754285 | 09:49 |
kevko | yoctozepto: will try, If will have some time .. | 09:50 |
openstackgerrit | wu.chunyang proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: CI: octavia: create and test a load balancer https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/754285 | 09:52 |
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openstackgerrit | Pierre Riteau proposed openstack/kayobe master: Adapt to changes from the Bifrost Victoria release https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/772607 | 10:01 |
openstackgerrit | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Replace db-sock with db-nb-sock and db-sb-sock https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/771594 | 10:04 |
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openstackgerrit | Michal Nasiadka proposed openstack/kolla master: Add octavia-driver-agent https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/771191 | 10:33 |
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openstackgerrit | Carsten Koester proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add IPv6 configuration options to Octavia management network https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/772647 | 10:40 |
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mgoddard | hrw: I removed MERGED from Allowed to fail images on the whiteboard | 11:16 |
mgoddard | hrw: we have the option but it won't make any improvement until we use it :) | 11:17 |
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mgoddard | hrw: it would be good to have some way to find out when images break, too. Right now, it allows merging a patch that breaks an 'allowed' to fail image | 11:18 |
hrw | mgoddard: without checking build log? | 11:23 |
openstackgerrit | Michal Arbet proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Edit services roles to support database sharding https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/770216 | 11:29 |
openstackgerrit | Michal Arbet proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: [CI] Enable proxysql test https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/770621 | 11:36 |
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yoctozepto | mgoddard, hrw: perhaps we could submit the job results somewhere? | 12:08 |
yoctozepto | and have it in the stats? | 12:08 |
mgoddard | hrw: you check every build log? | 12:09 |
mgoddard | I think the problem is that we can't distinguish between new failures and expected failures | 12:09 |
mgoddard | so maybe we need to keep the list empty, then add to it when we have failures | 12:10 |
hrw | mgoddard: no, only failed ones | 12:11 |
mgoddard | hrw: the job won't fail if an image is allowed to fail | 12:12 |
hrw | imho the idea was to use it only for things like 'monasca-thresh' which state for me is 'nice if builds but if not then no one (maybe except dougsz) cares' | 12:12 |
mgoddard | well if no one cares then we should remove the image | 12:13 |
hrw | or in other words: some non important image fails and we are not in mood/time to fix it | 12:13 |
mgoddard | that is true, but we do need to know that it is failing. If the job passes we never know | 12:14 |
mgoddard | also we can't distinguish between new failures and expected failures | 12:14 |
openstackgerrit | Pierre Riteau proposed openstack/kayobe master: Remove trailing whitespace https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/772681 | 12:16 |
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hrw | that's how CI works | 12:19 |
hrw | we can move to 'those have to pass' + 'everything' (non-voting) using profiles | 12:19 |
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kevko_ | guys, can I check ara "live" somewhere ? | 12:32 |
kevko_ | I don't mean zuul status page -> job -> console , but real ara html while job still running | 12:33 |
dmsimard | kevko_: there is https://demo.recordsansible.org/?path=kolla-ansible but it's one-off tests | 12:34 |
hrw | kevko_: would be nice to have but nope | 12:35 |
dmsimard | fwiw data from demo comes from patches such as https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/720902 | 12:37 |
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openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/kayobe stable/train: Fix Python setup when venv is not used https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/764511 | 12:47 |
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kevko_ | yoctozepto: fixed root_shard_N and it looks like it's passing | 13:18 |
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mgoddard | hrw: added allowed to fail to todays agenda | 13:50 |
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yoctozepto | mgoddard: I have removed the "hot issues" as there are none; the cinder is in the "sit down and do it" state now and nothing to discuss | 13:54 |
yoctozepto | this way we should easily fit the other agenda points | 13:54 |
mgoddard | yoctozepto: thanks. I think we were veering into too much boilerplate territory | 13:54 |
yoctozepto | mayhaps a bit | 14:01 |
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ozzzo | how can I display quota usage on CLI? | 14:28 |
openstackgerrit | Pierre Riteau proposed openstack/kayobe master: Update seed VM image to CentOS 8.3 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/772700 | 14:31 |
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mgoddard | meeting in 2 minutes | 14:58 |
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mgoddard | ^ mgoddard mnasiadka hrw egonzalez yoctozepto rafaelweingartne cosmicsound osmanlicilegi bbezak | 14:59 |
mgoddard | #startmeeting kolla | 15:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Jan 27 15:00:16 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mgoddard. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:00 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kolla' | 15:00 |
mgoddard | #topic rollcall | 15:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to "rollcall (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:00 | |
mgoddard | \o | 15:00 |
wuchunyang | \o | 15:00 |
osmanlicilegi | o/ | 15:00 |
hrw | [o] | 15:00 |
yoctozepto | /o\ | 15:03 |
mnasiadka | o/ | 15:03 |
mgoddard | #topic agenda | 15:04 |
*** openstack changes topic to "agenda (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:04 | |
mgoddard | * Roll-call | 15:04 |
mgoddard | * Announcements | 15:04 |
mgoddard | * Review action items from the last meeting | 15:05 |
mgoddard | * CI status | 15:05 |
mgoddard | * Cleaning up disabled components and services (e.g. monasca/storm) https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/769900 | 15:05 |
mgoddard | * Allowed to fail images - next steps https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/765807 | 15:05 |
mgoddard | * Wallaby release planning | 15:05 |
mgoddard | #topic announcements | 15:05 |
*** openstack changes topic to "announcements (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:05 | |
mgoddard | I have none. Anyone else? | 15:05 |
mgoddard | #topic Review action items from the last meeting | 15:06 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Review action items from the last meeting (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:06 | |
mgoddard | There were none | 15:06 |
mgoddard | #topic CI status | 15:06 |
*** openstack changes topic to "CI status (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:06 | |
mgoddard | How are we looking? | 15:06 |
mgoddard | We've had some issues with train, let's start there | 15:07 |
yoctozepto | good | 15:07 |
yoctozepto | everything works | 15:07 |
mgoddard | great. Thanks to those involved in rescuing it | 15:08 |
mgoddard | Stein has some issues | 15:08 |
mgoddard | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/772501 | 15:08 |
mgoddard | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/772490 | 15:08 |
mgoddard | Those two should address them | 15:08 |
mgoddard | optional: propose CI Slim Down in K-A (T-W) | 15:09 |
mgoddard | remove l-c jobs in K-A U, V & W (as agreed; already dropped in older) | 15:09 |
mgoddard | let's either do those or remove them from the board | 15:10 |
yoctozepto | do these | 15:10 |
mgoddard | I guess I'm undecided on the slim down | 15:11 |
mgoddard | has anyone actually run 'check experimental' in kolla since we removed the jobs? | 15:12 |
yoctozepto | I | 15:12 |
yoctozepto | once | 15:12 |
yoctozepto | I'd prefer we make CI work better | 15:12 |
yoctozepto | but we can't easily | 15:12 |
mgoddard | work better how? | 15:12 |
mnasiadka | I honestly don't think anybody will use check experimental | 15:14 |
mnasiadka | So, if we could have a list of problematic jobs, and vote on what to do with them - would probably be better | 15:15 |
mgoddard | most people don't know about it, and those who do are likely to forget | 15:15 |
mgoddard | it seems like a reasonable trade-off for kolla, but not so sure about k-a | 15:15 |
mgoddard | maybe we should have only one of each scenario | 15:16 |
mgoddard | and put the other in experimental | 15:16 |
yoctozepto | mgoddard: as in dockerhub not failing | 15:16 |
yoctozepto | and no disk_full | 15:16 |
yoctozepto | and no timeout | 15:16 |
yoctozepto | and no multiple retries | 15:16 |
yoctozepto | we got ourselves a ton of jobs | 15:17 |
yoctozepto | I liked adding them | 15:17 |
yoctozepto | but I don't like waiting for them nowadays :D | 15:17 |
* yoctozepto practicing self-blame | 15:17 | |
mnasiadka | well, I prefer to wait for them, instead of write check experimental and wait for them to fail :) | 15:17 |
mgoddard | +1 | 15:18 |
mgoddard | we do have various things that make CI unreliable, but it does seem workable at the moment | 15:18 |
mnasiadka | I would rather keep a list of jobs that need to be looked into, if there's no interest - we can decide to remove them, or just disable them. | 15:19 |
mgoddard | or combine them | 15:19 |
yoctozepto | +1 | 15:19 |
yoctozepto | let's not overwork ourselves for the moment | 15:20 |
yoctozepto | remove the point on slim down | 15:20 |
mgoddard | ok | 15:20 |
yoctozepto | and we will reconsider our options when it gets worse | 15:20 |
yoctozepto | kolla has it already | 15:20 |
yoctozepto | it sounds like a reasonable tradeoff | 15:20 |
mnasiadka | I know the ceph jobs are failing often, but I plan to move to use cephadm, and then investigate failures if they happen. | 15:20 |
yoctozepto | yeah, cephadm should help a bit; ceph-ansible is quite quirky | 15:21 |
mgoddard | are there legit ceph failures we should look into? | 15:21 |
yoctozepto | or perhaps we should just spin ceph manually for our simple scenario | 15:21 |
yoctozepto | it's a no-brainer xD | 15:21 |
yoctozepto | mgoddard: I don't think so | 15:22 |
yoctozepto | it's just feels worse than before | 15:22 |
mgoddard | ok | 15:22 |
mgoddard | let's move on, tired of CI :) | 15:22 |
yoctozepto | perhaps just due to multinode being worse | 15:22 |
yoctozepto | indeed! | 15:22 |
mgoddard | #topic Cleaning up disabled components and services (e.g. monasca/storm) https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/769900 | 15:22 |
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* yoctozepto to deprecate everything | 15:22 | |
mgoddard | This came up while reviewing one of dougsz's patches | 15:23 |
mgoddard | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/769900 | 15:23 |
hrw | monasca goes out? | 15:23 |
mgoddard | no | 15:23 |
mgoddard | but it's going on a diet :) | 15:23 |
mgoddard | some things will be removed | 15:23 |
mgoddard | and we'll add a flag to allow disabling the alerting pipeline | 15:24 |
mgoddard | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/769902/ | 15:24 |
mgoddard | so... | 15:24 |
mgoddard | there are two cases here | 15:24 |
mgoddard | 1. a container is no longer required and should be cleaned up | 15:24 |
mgoddard | 2. a container is disabled based on some feature flag, and should be cleaned up | 15:25 |
yoctozepto | ah, this general thing | 15:25 |
mgoddard | 1. I think should be done on upgrade | 15:25 |
yoctozepto | we should address both at once | 15:25 |
mgoddard | 2. is less clear. I don't really want a bunch of code that cleans up on every deploy | 15:26 |
yoctozepto | perhaps treat being disabled as removal? | 15:26 |
mgoddard | it will be messy and slow | 15:26 |
yoctozepto | and have a stub for those removed completely due to new release | 15:26 |
yoctozepto | hmm | 15:26 |
mgoddard | there is also a 3. which I forget | 15:27 |
mgoddard | 3. a service (enable_X) is disabled and should be cleaned up | 15:27 |
mgoddard | 3 is tricky because the site.yml playbook doesn't execute plays for disabled services | 15:27 |
mnasiadka | we need undeploy.yml in each role and a separate command to clean up? | 15:28 |
mgoddard | that is my preference | 15:28 |
mnasiadka | that sounds simplistic and doable in short time | 15:28 |
mgoddard | right | 15:28 |
mgoddard | however, I think dougsz didn't want to overload his patch | 15:29 |
mgoddard | so we came to a compromise | 15:29 |
mgoddard | he will implement a specific command to clean up the monasca alerting pipeline, which can be adapted into a general cleanup command | 15:29 |
mgoddard | e.g. kolla-ansible monasca-disable-alerting | 15:29 |
mgoddard | does that seem reasonable? | 15:30 |
wuchunyang | what about kolla-ansible destroy --tags service ? | 15:30 |
mgoddard | (dougsz is busy right now so can't join in) | 15:30 |
mgoddard | wuchunyang: I think destroy is subtley different | 15:30 |
mgoddard | destroy will clean up everything, regardless of enable flags, etc. | 15:31 |
mgoddard | cleanup should only destroy things that have been disabled | 15:31 |
mnasiadka | and still questionable if it should delete database entries and so on | 15:32 |
mgoddard | is this making sense? | 15:32 |
mgoddard | hmm, hadn't considered DB | 15:32 |
mgoddard | that would only apply if the whole service is disabled | 15:32 |
mgoddard | probably it will evolve some flags | 15:33 |
yoctozepto | it's tricky and sounds like a good topic for the next ptg | 15:33 |
mgoddard | --clean-db --clean-keystone --clean-mq | 15:33 |
yoctozepto | as the need grows :D | 15:33 |
mnasiadka | yeah, but the initial approach with Monasca sounds fine, we need to start somewhere | 15:33 |
yoctozepto | --yes-i-really-really-want-it-clean | 15:33 |
wuchunyang | sounds good | 15:33 |
mgoddard | but a simple deletion of containers and volumes would be a good start | 15:34 |
yoctozepto | yes | 15:34 |
mnasiadka | just need to make sure we adapt reno if we change the command name :) | 15:34 |
mnasiadka | (over time) | 15:34 |
mgoddard | I think it would be a new command | 15:34 |
wuchunyang | + 1 | 15:34 |
mgoddard | any other thoughts or shall we progress? | 15:35 |
mgoddard | #topic Allowed to fail images - next steps https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/765807 | 15:36 |
*** openstack changes topic to "Allowed to fail images - next steps https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/765807 (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 15:36 | |
mgoddard | ping hrw | 15:36 |
mgoddard | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/765807 | 15:36 |
hrw | pong | 15:36 |
mgoddard | we had some discussion about this in IRC earlier | 15:36 |
mgoddard | that patch adds an option to kolla to mark some images as being allowed to fail | 15:37 |
mgoddard | the next step is to make use of this in our CI | 15:37 |
mgoddard | some key requirements for me: | 15:37 |
mgoddard | * a change that breaks an image must fail CI | 15:38 |
mgoddard | * ideally we have some visibility if an external change breaks an image | 15:38 |
* hrw waits for end of list | 15:39 | |
mgoddard | </end> | 15:39 |
hrw | ok. | 15:39 |
hrw | 1. 'change that breaks an image must fail CI' == what we have by default | 15:39 |
hrw | allowed-to-fail does not change anything here | 15:40 |
hrw | this feature is more for 'omg, xyz image failed again and the only core who understand it is on holidays. let use ignore it for a week with this patch' | 15:40 |
mgoddard | ok | 15:41 |
hrw | otherwise we would switch to profile builds which can list 'those images we build and they can not fail' | 15:41 |
mgoddard | I think if we keep the list empty by default it will work | 15:41 |
hrw | + non-voting job building everything to check are there images which fail | 15:41 |
hrw | that's the plan | 15:41 |
hrw | (empty list) | 15:42 |
mgoddard | ok | 15:42 |
hrw | 'ideally we have some visibility if an external change breaks an image' == normal CI too | 15:42 |
hrw | allowed-to-fail is kind of 'one step' before moving to UNBUILDABLE_IMAGES | 15:43 |
mgoddard | the original goal was for tiers of images, so I imagined having a static list of tier 3 images | 15:43 |
mgoddard | in which case they could have started failig silently | 15:43 |
mgoddard | default empty list works for me | 15:43 |
mgoddard | so perhaps you are right in saying that the feature is complete :) | 15:44 |
mgoddard | anyone disagree? | 15:44 |
mgoddard | great | 15:44 |
hrw | we have 3 levels for images: BUILD, allowed to fail, UNBUILDABLE | 15:44 |
hrw | with middle one being for emergencies | 15:45 |
mgoddard | hrw: could you add a few sentences on that to the contributor docs? | 15:45 |
yoctozepto | no disagreement | 15:45 |
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hrw | mgoddard: #action please. will handle | 15:45 |
mgoddard | #action hrw to document allowed to fail & unbuildable images in contributor docs | 15:46 |
mgoddard | good job - nice and simple, should be useful | 15:46 |
hrw | and 'allowed to fail' is basically CI stuff which can be used by anyone | 15:46 |
mgoddard | PTL just too stoopid to understand it :D | 15:47 |
mgoddard | #topic Wallaby release planning | 15:47 |
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hrw | mgoddard: after adding UNBUILDABLE I have a feeling that I understand all those lists. and that's scary | 15:47 |
hrw | ~3 months to release? | 15:48 |
mgoddard | I don't think we've talked dates yet | 15:48 |
hrw | April is usual date ;D | 15:48 |
mgoddard | I'll add a section to the whiteboard | 15:48 |
yoctozepto | ++ | 15:48 |
mgoddard | #link https://releases.openstack.org/wallaby/schedule.html | 15:49 |
hrw | I think that infra stuff would be nice. I may take a look and rewrite patches adding funcionality and skip CI changes | 15:49 |
mgoddard | Apr 12 - Apr 16 | 15:49 |
mgoddard | ^ is OpenStack Wallaby GA | 15:50 |
hrw | so 1st April is a day when we should be ready with features, freeze, fix issues and release on 1st May | 15:50 |
mgoddard | Kolla feature freeze: Mar 29 - Apr 02 | 15:51 |
mgoddard | Kolla RC1: Apr 12 - Apr 16 | 15:51 |
mgoddard | CentOS 8 stream is a risk | 15:51 |
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mgoddard | RDO is targeting stream for wallaby | 15:51 |
yoctozepto | it will freeze our blood | 15:52 |
yoctozepto | :-) | 15:52 |
mgoddard | just to reiterate - there are around 2 months until feature freeze | 15:52 |
mgoddard | now is the time to get working on features | 15:53 |
yoctozepto | only sad reactions! | 15:53 |
hrw | if RDO goes stream then so are we. | 15:53 |
mgoddard | (and reviewing) | 15:53 |
yoctozepto | :D | 15:53 |
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hrw | which may end in centos:8 -> stream or ubi:8 as a base image | 15:53 |
mgoddard | 7 minutes to go. Shall we look at the release priorities? | 15:54 |
hrw | go, quickly | 15:55 |
mgoddard | this one is ever present, and never done: | 15:55 |
mgoddard | High level documentation, eg. examples of networking config, diagrams, justification of use of containers, not k8s etc | 15:55 |
mgoddard | but if anyone has time for docs, they will be appreciated | 15:55 |
mgoddard | Ability to run CI jobs locally (without Zuul, but possibly with Ansible) | 15:55 |
mgoddard | yoctozepto: any progress? | 15:55 |
yoctozepto | mgoddard: none | 15:56 |
mgoddard | ok | 15:56 |
mgoddard | Switch to CentOS 8 stream | 15:57 |
mgoddard | Anyone want to pick this up? | 15:57 |
hrw | I may if no one wants | 15:58 |
mgoddard | ok | 15:58 |
mgoddard | Infra images | 15:58 |
mgoddard | hrw: you mentioned adding features but skipping CI | 15:58 |
mgoddard | AFAIR, CI was the blocking part | 15:58 |
mgoddard | the CentOS combined job fails | 15:58 |
mgoddard | so we either need to fix that, or implement the multi-job pipeline | 15:59 |
hrw | I want to rewrite patches to have functionality for review while waiting for someone with ideas of CI changes | 16:00 |
hrw | it is quite old patchset so I first have to remind myself how it works | 16:00 |
mgoddard | I do wonder if the combined job could be made to work with a bit of debugging | 16:01 |
mgoddard | it could be a disk issue, try removing images after each build | 16:01 |
mgoddard | anyway, we are over time | 16:02 |
mgoddard | thanks all | 16:02 |
hrw | the good part is that CI changes can be done separately | 16:02 |
mgoddard | #endmeeting | 16:02 |
*** openstack changes topic to "IRC meetings on Wednesdays @ 15:00 UTC - agenda @ https://goo.gl/OXB0DL | Whiteboard: https://bit.ly/2MM7mWF | IRC channel is *LOGGED* @ http://goo.gl/3mzZ7b" | 16:02 | |
openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jan 27 16:02:34 2021 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:02 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2021/kolla.2021-01-27-15.00.html | 16:02 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2021/kolla.2021-01-27-15.00.txt | 16:02 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2021/kolla.2021-01-27-15.00.log.html | 16:02 |
hrw | as we already have infra images in kolla | 16:02 |
mgoddard | they can, but they still block enabling infra images | 16:03 |
hrw | so CI steps: base -> binary,source now and later: base -> infra,binary,source | 16:03 |
hrw | ok, I have to go | 16:03 |
mgoddard | k | 16:03 |
hrw | cu tomorrow | 16:03 |
mgoddard | \o | 16:03 |
headphoneJames | If anyone is still around, I have a question about how to build a test case for LetsEncrypt | 16:04 |
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headphoneJames | To actually exercise the LE service, we would need to have access to domain names and the DNS to use LE in an automated test. | 16:07 |
openstackgerrit | Doug Szumski proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Fix Barbican API log config https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/772715 | 16:08 |
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yoctozepto | headphoneJames: does it also apply to the sandbox? | 16:15 |
headphoneJames | yoctozepto: I am unfamiliar with the sandbox | 16:16 |
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yoctozepto | headphoneJames: the internets suggest using https://github.com/letsencrypt/pebble | 16:19 |
yoctozepto | "Pebble is NOT INTENDED FOR PRODUCTION USE. Pebble is for testing only." | 16:19 |
yoctozepto | and that is exactly what we want | 16:19 |
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headphoneJames | Not sure if this is what we need - will look at it more closely. I imagine it would be better to mock the LE service than the AMCE one. | 16:23 |
kevko_ | guys, just for curiosity ... have someone solve https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystonemiddleware/+bug/1883659 ? | 16:23 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1883659 in oslo.cache "keystonemiddleware connections to memcached from neutron-server grow beyond configured values" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 16:23 |
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kevko_ | this was measured on openstack ussuri (kolla, kolla-asnible) | 16:25 |
kevko_ | while loop -> openstack server list; openstack volume list; openstack token issue ; openstack network list to API | 16:26 |
kevko_ | https://ibb.co/7g2yRGX | 16:26 |
kevko_ | X are while loop cycles ... Y are connections to memcached | 16:26 |
kevko_ | does anyone solve this issue ? somehow ? | 16:26 |
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headphoneJames | yoctozepto: thanks for the link | 16:27 |
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mgoddard | yoctozepto: would be nice to push on https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/745164 | 16:33 |
mgoddard | maybe pulling out the check-containers.yml -> role refactor first | 16:37 |
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mgoddard | yoctozepto: would you agree we only want Letsencrypt for the external API? | 16:45 |
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openstackgerrit | Pierre Riteau proposed openstack/kayobe master: Update seed VM image to CentOS 8.3 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/772700 | 16:51 |
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yoctozepto | mgoddard: I agree; first step is definitely external only | 17:08 |
yoctozepto | let's not attack all fronts | 17:08 |
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mgoddard | yoctozepto: well, would we ever want internal? | 17:08 |
mgoddard | given that it must be publicly accessible | 17:09 |
mgoddard | the patch already tries to do internal | 17:09 |
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yoctozepto | mgoddard: that's the dream of let's encrypt in an ipv6 internet | 17:09 |
yoctozepto | but realistically | 17:09 |
yoctozepto | we probably want integration with some internal mechanisms | 17:09 |
yoctozepto | rather than le | 17:09 |
yoctozepto | mgoddard: re pushing: makes sense | 17:10 |
yoctozepto | we also have one other that got reverted | 17:10 |
mgoddard | I suppose the question is, do we not want internal LE enough to ask headphoneJames to remove it? | 17:11 |
yoctozepto | mgoddard: no, that's valid if it is possible | 17:11 |
yoctozepto | hopefully not enforced :P | 17:12 |
mgoddard | so keep it? | 17:12 |
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yoctozepto | why not? | 17:13 |
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yoctozepto | I don't mind extra features | 17:13 |
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mgoddard | I guess it just adds a bit of complexity, and unsure if it will be used | 17:14 |
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headphoneJames | Happy to go either way :) | 17:17 |
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yoctozepto | the question is.... | 17:18 |
yoctozepto | how much complexity?! | 17:18 |
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mgoddard | some | 17:19 |
mgoddard | headphoneJames: did you look at the --standalone option of certbot? | 17:20 |
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headphoneJames | I believe standalone removes the need for an acme server - certbot will still do a request to the LE service. | 17:24 |
openstackgerrit | Doug Szumski proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Fix Barbican API log config https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/772715 | 17:25 |
yoctozepto | what do you mean by 'acme server'? | 17:27 |
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mgoddard | headphoneJames: right. Wondering if that could be a good simplifier. Any downsides? | 17:35 |
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headphoneJames | standalone removes the requirement that deployment is running ACME server for handling certbot challenges. Running acme server is no issue. | 17:37 |
openstackgerrit | Pierre Riteau proposed openstack/kayobe master: Test building IPA images in the seed job https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/772751 | 17:38 |
headphoneJames | the issue is having certbot issue requests to the LE service to generate certs. I'm hoping it possible to run 'pebble' locally to generate test certs. | 17:39 |
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headphoneJames | otherwise, maybe I can use a combination of standalone and --test-cert to generate certs good enough to run a test with SSL validation disabled | 17:41 |
mgoddard | headphoneJames: I wasn't talking about testing, more about simplification - if we can remove a container by adding a CLI argument, that sounds like a good tradeoff | 17:45 |
headphoneJames | ah, I see | 17:45 |
mgoddard | but perhaps there are benefits I have missed to a separate acme server | 17:46 |
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headphoneJames | the benefits are that you cannot bind the standalone to a different port than 80, nor specify the ip address you want to listen on | 17:50 |
mgoddard | ok | 17:51 |
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headphoneJames | mgoddard: thanks much for initial review! | 17:53 |
mgoddard | headphoneJames: np | 17:54 |
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openstackgerrit | Piotr Parczewski proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: [docs] Unify project's naming convention https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/771282 | 19:09 |
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openstackgerrit | Pierre Riteau proposed openstack/kayobe master: Fix deployment image build in Victoria https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/772774 | 21:12 |
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openstackgerrit | Pierre Riteau proposed openstack/kayobe master: Test building IPA images in the seed job https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/772751 | 21:54 |
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openstackgerrit | Pierre Riteau proposed openstack/kayobe master: Update seed VM image to CentOS 8.3 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/772700 | 21:56 |
openstackgerrit | Pierre Riteau proposed openstack/kayobe stable/victoria: Fix deployment image build in Victoria https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/772777 | 22:00 |
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openstackgerrit | Pierre Riteau proposed openstack/kayobe master: Test building IPA images in the seed job https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/772751 | 22:36 |
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