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| opendevreview | jinyuanliu proposed openstack/kolla master: venus: add log management system https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/793795 | 01:00 |
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| opendevreview | jinyuanliu proposed openstack/kolla master: venus: add log management system https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/793795 | 01:19 |
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| opendevreview | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible master: [docker] Add support for setting CgroupnsMode https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/790678 | 02:49 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add support for Debian Bullseye (11) as host distro https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/793698 | 02:52 |
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| opendevreview | jinyuanliu proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: ADD venus for kolla-ansible https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/793897 | 03:23 |
| opendevreview | jinyuanliu proposed openstack/kolla master: venus: add log management system https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/793795 | 03:28 |
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| yoctozepto | morning | 05:47 |
| oklhost | morning | 05:49 |
| Gilou | hi | 05:52 |
| Gilou | are there any interesting grafana dashboards available to show cool metrics from a kolla-ansible deployed setup ? | 05:53 |
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| hrw | morning | 07:12 |
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| opendevreview | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible stable/wallaby: Trivial if conditional fix in keystone.json https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/793692 | 07:37 |
| opendevreview | Matthias Runge proposed openstack/kolla master: Remove panko https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/794150 | 07:44 |
| opendevreview | jpic proposed openstack/kolla master: Fix _get_images_dir when pip-installed with --user https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/794153 | 07:54 |
| * jpic 's first! | 07:56 | |
| hrw | ok, let me look then | 07:56 |
| jpic | it's trivial though | 07:57 |
| jpic | I have opened a launchpad bug but didn't quite figure how to link them : https://bugs.launchpad.net/kolla/+bug/1930544 | 07:57 |
| opendevmeet | Launchpad bug 1930544 in kolla "Support pip install --user kolla" [Undecided,New] | 07:57 |
| hrw | jpic: Closes: #1930544 | 07:57 |
| jpic | ok, i'll rewrite that commit then | 07:58 |
| jpic | thank you | 07:58 |
| hrw | yw | 07:58 |
| opendevreview | jpic proposed openstack/kolla master: Fix _get_images_dir when pip-installed with --user https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/794157 | 07:59 |
| hrw | jpic: keep Change-Id please | 07:59 |
| hrw | jpic: as you now have 2 patches doing same | 07:59 |
| jpic | oh my | 07:59 |
| hrw | just abandon one of them | 08:00 |
| opendevreview | jpic proposed openstack/kolla master: Fix _get_images_dir when pip-installed with --user https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/794153 | 08:00 |
| jpic | yes | 08:00 |
| hrw | ops. "Closes-Bug: #ID" is proper | 08:00 |
| hrw | I do not use it often so forgot syntax | 08:01 |
| opendevreview | jpic proposed openstack/kolla master: Fix _get_images_dir when pip-installed with --user https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/794153 | 08:01 |
| hrw | jpic: can you use FullName in commit author? | 08:01 |
| jpic | yes, hang on | 08:02 |
| hrw | thanks | 08:02 |
| opendevreview | jpic proposed openstack/kolla master: Fix _get_images_dir when pip-installed with --user https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/794153 | 08:03 |
| hrw | at same time I would expand commit message a bit | 08:03 |
| hrw | https://chris.beams.io/posts/git-commit/ is nice read | 08:04 |
| opendevreview | jpic proposed openstack/kolla master: Fix _get_images_dir when pip-installed with --user https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/794153 | 08:06 |
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| jpic | is that enough or should I find more? | 08:07 |
| hrw | looks nice | 08:07 |
| hrw | thanks | 08:07 |
| hrw | now it needs to pass zuul | 08:07 |
| hrw | then votes, merge and backport to stable branches | 08:08 |
| jpic | thank you for the heads up! | 08:09 |
| hrw | thanks for contribution | 08:09 |
| hrw | nice, simple, useful, needed | 08:09 |
| jpic | and good for my conscience xD | 08:10 |
| opendevreview | jinyuanliu proposed openstack/kolla master: venus: add log management system https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/793795 | 08:12 |
| jpic | thank you for the kind words, much appreciated :) | 08:14 |
| opendevreview | jinyuanliu proposed openstack/kolla master: venus: add log management system https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/793795 | 08:15 |
| hrw | jinyuanliu: can you do whole set of changes and then upload for review? | 08:15 |
| hrw | jinyuanliu: less stress on zuul killing just-started jobs | 08:16 |
| jinyuanliu | ok | 08:16 |
| jpic | btw, is there anything I need to do to stop zuul on 794157 which I have abandoned? | 08:17 |
| hrw | jpic: it will end on it's own | 08:17 |
| jpic | good to know, thanks | 08:17 |
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| hrw | ok, let me go offline - have to reattach 8p8c connector to get 1GbE instead of just Fast Ethernet ;D | 08:18 |
| kevko | yoctozepto: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/777772 anything else regarding this ? | 08:24 |
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| jpic | is there any way to mount pip cache at build time? | 08:28 |
| opendevreview | Matthias Runge proposed openstack/kolla master: Remove panko https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/794150 | 08:28 |
| jpic | or do I have to setup a python index service? (preparing for airgapped setup) | 08:28 |
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| hrw | re | 08:29 |
| hrw | r8169 0000:27:00.0 enp39s0: Link is Up - 1Gbps/Full | 08:29 |
| hrw | and work can go on | 08:30 |
| jpic | you're tearing me apart, I have country side DSL connection 1Mbps tops, ~15 to 50 5-15 minute downtimes per day xD | 08:30 |
| opendevreview | jinyuanliu proposed openstack/kolla master: venus https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/793795 | 08:31 |
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| hrw | jpic: that's lan speed | 08:32 |
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| parallax | hrw: working from arm based machine obviously? | 09:47 |
| hrw | parallax: ? | 09:48 |
| opendevreview | jinyuanliu proposed openstack/kolla master: venus: add log management system https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/793795 | 09:48 |
| parallax | hrw: is your regular workstation x86_64 or aarch64, just out of curiousity | 09:49 |
| hrw | parallax: x86-64 still. | 09:49 |
| hrw | parallax: one day it may change. Hope that it will be before my retirement | 09:50 |
| hrw | and I would like to end work on reaching retirement age | 09:50 |
| parallax | cool :) Gilou : one particular dashboard dedicated for OpenStack deployement is this: https://github.com/openstack-exporter/grafana-dashboards I wouldn't call it extremely exciting, it could use some polishing here and there | 09:58 |
| parallax | Kolla Ansible deploys bunch of "regular" exporters which work well with upstream Grafana dashboards, eg. for node-exporter | 09:59 |
| hrw | speaking of grafana... did not they changed license recently? | 10:03 |
| parallax | I think your question might come from, by having K-A deployment, you're ending up with some nice metrics in Prometheus but an empty Grafana, is that correct? I guess it's a conscious decision of K-A project to not include any dashboards in the deployment (maybe it will change?) | 10:03 |
| parallax | hrw: seems you are right | 10:04 |
| parallax | agpl-3.0 | 10:04 |
| hrw | the 'we are forcing you to gplv3 all your services using our agplv3 code' license, right? | 10:08 |
| mgoddard | o/ | 10:08 |
| hrw | hi Mark | 10:08 |
| jpic | is there any way to get the list of all apt and pip packages to have if one wants to build in an airgapped environment? | 10:10 |
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| hrw | jpic: you may grep logs | 10:13 |
| jpic | my own build logs you mean right? | 10:13 |
| hrw | yes | 10:13 |
| jpic | ok, i'm on the right track then, thank you! | 10:13 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: o/ | 10:15 |
| hrw | jpic: for APT repos you may look how infra does it in project-config repo. and then reuse their reprepro configs | 10:15 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: will you write to the ml about the new kolla meeting place? | 10:15 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: yeah, you just did | 10:16 |
| mgoddard | yoctozepto: I just did | 10:17 |
| hrw | I would say that nothing change when it comes to meeting. it is still on same channel as project uses. | 10:17 |
| hrw | and project move was separate change | 10:17 |
| hrw | ;D | 10:17 |
| yoctozepto | hrw: yeah, but the additional communication helps | 10:19 |
| hrw | I know, joking kind of | 10:19 |
| yoctozepto | but you are right in the joke | 10:19 |
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| opendevreview | Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/wallaby: [docker] Add support for setting CgroupnsMode https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/794174 | 10:21 |
| hrw | yoctozepto: it is like with tomorrow's holiday. It is at any random thursday. similar with easter. someone will say 'but there is a rule for it' while is still feels random | 10:22 |
| opendevreview | Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/wallaby: Add support for Debian Bullseye (11) as host distro https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/794175 | 10:22 |
| yoctozepto | hrw: yeah | 10:22 |
| hrw | curse those who do not even bother building locally before 'git review' | 10:23 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: need this cherrypicked on wallaby, approve? https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/789569 | 10:24 |
| hrw | jinyuanliu: I will not review venus anymore until Zuul says +1 | 10:24 |
| yoctozepto | hrw: oh no, a cactus just grew on my hand | 10:24 |
| * yoctozepto admits to be guilty as charged | 10:24 | |
| hrw | yoctozepto: it was selfcurse as well. | 10:24 |
| mgoddard | is venus official? | 10:24 |
| yoctozepto | though always within reason | 10:24 |
| mgoddard | we just removed some things because they were not official | 10:25 |
| hrw | mgoddard: not in openstack/ namespace | 10:25 |
| jpic | do we use any other image other than the one specified as base with kolla-build? | 10:25 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: it's not | 10:25 |
| hrw | jpic: you can, we do not | 10:25 |
| yoctozepto | https://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/projects/ | 10:26 |
| yoctozepto | hrw: namespace is currently not the guaranteed way to know that | 10:26 |
| yoctozepto | but yes, it's an inspur project atm | 10:26 |
| yoctozepto | not official | 10:26 |
| yoctozepto | looks promising and they want it as official | 10:27 |
| jpic | nice, thanks | 10:29 |
| hrw | jpic: note that template overrides can also be used for customizing images | 10:32 |
| hrw | jpic: you can also make jpic-debian:bullseye image with some changes in it and then use it as base image | 10:33 |
| jpic | yes, I'm playing with that to override apt mirror and friends | 10:34 |
| jpic | oh, well that's even a better idea that you had, thank you! | 10:34 |
| jpic | I'll just make my own base with my own apt setup then | 10:35 |
| hrw | jpic: check tests/templates/template_overrides.j2 file in kolla | 10:35 |
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| Gilou | parallax, well, it may be hard to decide what dashboards to put by default hehe, but it was mostly a question to showcase it a bit | 10:42 |
| Gilou | hmm, just deployed a new wallaby install, kibana is unhappy, complains it doesn't find its config file grmbl | 10:43 |
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| opendevreview | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible master: [CI] Move to Debian Bullseye https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/789569 | 10:58 |
| jpic | nice one, thank you! I see we also have some npm, I suppose for Horizon ... | 11:01 |
| Gilou | parallax, nice dashboard you linked to, that'll will do nicely :P | 11:03 |
| opendevreview | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/wallaby: [CI] Move to Debian Bullseye https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/794178 | 11:04 |
| jpic | I could build all images except kolla-toolbox and rabbitmq, both because: The repository 'https://dl.bintray.com/rabbitmq/debian bionic InRelease' is not signed. | 11:05 |
| Gilou | wallaby / kibana fails, Error: ENOENT: no such file or directory, open '/usr/share/kibana/config/kibana.yml' | 11:05 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/kayobe master: docs: Update Freenode to OFTC https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/793733 | 11:06 |
| jpic | can you run this Gilou python -c 'import kolla; print(kolla.__path__)' | 11:06 |
| Gilou | on the node? | 11:06 |
| jpic | nope, that's not going to help sorry about that | 11:07 |
| Gilou | on the deployment machine, I guess, and it fails, so maybe a hint, but probably not the root :P | 11:07 |
| Gilou | (it yields ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'kolla', should I be worried ? :P) | 11:08 |
| jpic | i thought it was looking into /usr/share/kolla and fixed a related bug but i didn't read your question correctly sorry | 11:09 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible master: [CI] Drop Zuul host groups https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/793784 | 11:09 |
| Gilou | np, anyway it seems to be a bug related to a recent version of kibana rather than kolla | 11:09 |
| jpic | ok for my rabbitmq problem, just need to backport 641b936bc7 into kolla 11.0 | 11:10 |
| Gilou | https://discuss.elastic.co/t/kibana-upgrade-to-7-8-fatal-cli-error-error-enoent-no-such-file-or-directory/239885/6 | 11:10 |
| jpic | however, now that bintray has effectively shut down, nobody would be able to `pip install kolla; kolla-build -b ubuntu rabbitmq kolla-toolbox`, might be considered a critical bug? | 11:10 |
| opendevreview | Pierre Riteau proposed openstack/kayobe stable/wallaby: docs: Update Freenode to OFTC https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/794179 | 11:14 |
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| hrw | jpic: it was solved already | 11:23 |
| parallax | jpic: `pip install git+https://opendev.org/openstack/kolla.git && kolla-build -b ubuntu rabbitmq kolla-toolbox` | 11:24 |
| parallax | right, just the package not yet release on pypi | 11:24 |
| parallax | *released | 11:24 |
| hrw | mgoddard: can we bump and release? | 11:25 |
| mgoddard | hrw: we could | 11:26 |
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| opendevreview | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: chrony: remove during upgrade when disabled https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/792119 | 11:37 |
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| Gilou | meh, elasticsearch / kibana is kinda dead in fact… seems the docker version of kibana won't talk directly to es … | 12:23 |
| Gilou | also elasticsearch itself seems not to be initialize its cluster, but that's maybe an issue on my config… seems it requires to add cluster.initial_master_nodes, but I assumed this was supposed to be done earlier… | 12:24 |
| Gilou | and I'm not sure about Kibana, seems it wants me to use filebeat / metricbeat, and doesn't want to connect directly to es | 12:28 |
| Gilou | ah | 12:29 |
| Gilou | it's hidden… | 12:29 |
| Gilou | but not fed… ok, I'll investigate… it worked on victoria, sad! | 12:32 |
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| opendevreview | wu.chunyang proposed openstack/kolla master: Remove rally https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/794238 | 14:41 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/kayobe stable/victoria: Fix host configuration due to missing python3 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/793402 | 14:42 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/kayobe stable/wallaby: docs: Update Freenode to OFTC https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/794179 | 14:42 |
| mgoddard | mgoddard mnasiadka hrw egonzalez yoctozepto rafaelweingartne cosmicsound osmanlicilegi bbezak parallax Fl1nt | 14:55 |
| mgoddard | ^ meeting in 5 | 14:55 |
| opendevreview | Pierre Riteau proposed openstack/kayobe stable/victoria: docs: Update Freenode to OFTC https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/794242 | 14:57 |
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| yoctozepto | meeting now | 15:01 |
| * yoctozepto wants the meeting | 15:01 | |
| yoctozepto | not sure for | 15:01 |
| yoctozepto | not sure what* for | 15:02 |
| mgoddard | #startmeeting kolla | 15:02 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting started Wed Jun 2 15:02:48 2021 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mgoddard. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:02 |
| opendevmeet | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:02 |
| opendevmeet | The meeting name has been set to 'kolla' | 15:02 |
| mgoddard | #topic rollcall | 15:03 |
| yoctozepto | \o/ | 15:03 |
| mgoddard | \oftc | 15:03 |
| wuchunyang | \o/ | 15:03 |
| yoctozepto | o/ o/ o/ freenode | 15:03 |
| mgoddard | #topic agenda | 15:04 |
| mgoddard | * Roll-call | 15:04 |
| mgoddard | * Agenda | 15:04 |
| mgoddard | * Announcements | 15:04 |
| mgoddard | ** #openstack-kolla now lives on OFTC | 15:04 |
| mgoddard | * Review action items from the last meeting | 15:04 |
| mgoddard | * CI status | 15:04 |
| mgoddard | * Wallaby release planning | 15:04 |
| mgoddard | ** Debian bullseye | 15:04 |
| mgoddard | ** chrony | 15:04 |
| mgoddard | * Xena cycle planning | 15:04 |
| mgoddard | ** master branch life cycle https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/kolla-release-process-draft | 15:04 |
| mgoddard | * Documentation improvements http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2021-May/022478.html | 15:04 |
| mgoddard | * RabbitMQ upgrade issues https://bugs.launchpad.net/kolla-ansible/+bug/1930293 | 15:04 |
| mgoddard | * Open discussion | 15:04 |
| opendevmeet | Launchpad bug 1930293 in kolla-ansible xena "multinode rabbitmq failing upgrades" [High,Triaged] - Assigned to Radosław Piliszek (yoctozepto) | 15:04 |
| mgoddard | #topic announcements | 15:04 |
| mgoddard | #info #openstack-kolla now lives on OFTC | 15:04 |
| mgoddard | Any others? | 15:05 |
| yoctozepto | \o/ \o/ \o/ | 15:05 |
| yoctozepto | nothing else | 15:05 |
| mgoddard | #topic Review action items from the last meeting | 15:05 |
| mgoddard | There were none | 15:05 |
| mgoddard | #topic CI status | 15:05 |
| yoctozepto | there is one we missed last time | 15:05 |
| yoctozepto | to redo | 15:05 |
| yoctozepto | (mgoddard to write something to the ml) | 15:06 |
| yoctozepto | but I can forgive you ;p | 15:06 |
| mgoddard | #topic mgoddard email openstack-discuss about quay.io credentials | 15:06 |
| yoctozepto | you mean | 15:06 |
| yoctozepto | #undo | 15:06 |
| mgoddard | yes | 15:06 |
| yoctozepto | #action ... | 15:06 |
| mgoddard | #action mgoddard email openstack-discuss about quay.io credentials | 15:06 |
| mgoddard | #topic CI status | 15:07 |
| mgoddard | Kolla seems ok? | 15:07 |
| mgoddard | hopefully ovmf-efi issue will get a fix in stream soon | 15:08 |
| mgoddard | k-a and kayobe also good afaict | 15:08 |
| mgoddard | #topic Wallaby release planning / Debian bullseye | 15:08 |
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| mgoddard | I think we're looking pretty good here now | 15:09 |
| mgoddard | https://review.opendev.org/q/topic:%22debian-bullseye-stable%252Fwallaby%22+(status:open%20OR%20status:merged) | 15:09 |
| mgoddard | need approvals on those | 15:09 |
| mgoddard | There's this one: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/792583 | 15:10 |
| mgoddard | (bump min docker version) | 15:10 |
| yoctozepto | yeah, I would see that in | 15:10 |
| yoctozepto | we could really even backport it to victoria and ussuri | 15:11 |
| yoctozepto | though probably "whatever" :-) | 15:11 |
| mgoddard | backwards compat? | 15:11 |
| mgoddard | there is one potential hole | 15:12 |
| mgoddard | what happens if I run docker<v1.41 with cgroups v2? | 15:12 |
| mgoddard | I guess it fails to deploy libvirt | 15:12 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: the first container fails | 15:12 |
| mgoddard | but should that be a precheck? | 15:12 |
| mgoddard | the first? | 15:12 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: yeah, I meant docker just fails everything | 15:13 |
| yoctozepto | you can't miss it | 15:13 |
| mgoddard | ah right | 15:13 |
| mgoddard | k | 15:13 |
| mgoddard | then I think we have all we need for bullseye | 15:14 |
| wuchunyang | victoria seems doesn't support Bullseye in our support matrix. | 15:14 |
| mgoddard | we are just adding support for bullseye in wallaby | 15:14 |
| yoctozepto | wuchunyang: yeah, it does not; we were discussing https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/792583 | 15:14 |
| yoctozepto | regarding that backporting | 15:15 |
| yoctozepto | but it's probably not worth it | 15:15 |
| yoctozepto | everybody probably just has it | 15:15 |
| mgoddard | #topic Wallaby release planning / chrony | 15:15 |
| yoctozepto | at the almost latest | 15:15 |
| mgoddard | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/792119 | 15:15 |
| yoctozepto | yeah, I will re-review surely | 15:16 |
| mgoddard | patch to clean up chrony | 15:16 |
| mgoddard | similar patch for kayobe: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/792243 | 15:18 |
| mgoddard | #topic master branch life cycle https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/kolla-release-process-draft | 15:18 |
| mgoddard | I'm not sure we'll ever have quorum for this | 15:19 |
| mgoddard | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/kolla-release-process-draft | 15:19 |
| mgoddard | are there any kinks that need ironing out? | 15:19 |
| yoctozepto | we are just not disciplined enough | 15:22 |
| yoctozepto | to follow it ;d | 15:22 |
| mgoddard | probably not | 15:23 |
| mgoddard | I do worry that these extra steps will get forgotten | 15:23 |
| yoctozepto | me too | 15:24 |
| yoctozepto | I mean, I don't see anything wrong in the plan | 15:24 |
| yoctozepto | just that we will not stick to it | 15:24 |
| mgoddard | this is R-18 | 15:26 |
| mgoddard | so next week we should | 15:26 |
| mgoddard | Switch source images to use development branches | 15:26 |
| mgoddard | Set previous_release variables to the previous release | 15:26 |
| yoctozepto | yeah, let's try that | 15:26 |
| yoctozepto | and be more coordinated the next time | 15:26 |
| yoctozepto | we are getting better and better at it anyhow | 15:27 |
| mgoddard | we probably need to reference the schedule each week | 15:27 |
| mgoddard | which week is it, what's up next etc. | 15:28 |
| priteau | mgoddard: you can add your project milestones to the release calendar | 15:28 |
| mgoddard | that's true | 15:28 |
| priteau | should help with making them less forgattable | 15:28 |
| yoctozepto | and we can have this point in our agenda | 15:30 |
| yoctozepto | we have weekly meetings ;p | 15:30 |
| mgoddard | the source/binary difference is a bit annoying | 15:32 |
| yoctozepto | do you suggest to postpone both till then? | 15:32 |
| yoctozepto | sounds fair | 15:32 |
| yoctozepto | for our stability ;d | 15:32 |
| mgoddard | special cases just add to the congnitive load | 15:33 |
| mgoddard | it would be nicer to be able to say | 15:33 |
| mgoddard | 'today all images use the previous release' | 15:33 |
| mgoddard | 'tomorrow they will all be based on master' | 15:33 |
| mgoddard | is the worry that fixes don't get into binary repos? | 15:34 |
| mgoddard | (...quickly enough) | 15:34 |
| yoctozepto | they are always slower | 15:36 |
| yoctozepto | but I think we wait because before there are just no repos to use, no? | 15:36 |
| yoctozepto | anyways, binary is n-v | 15:37 |
| yoctozepto | I would not care too much | 15:37 |
| mgoddard | UCA should exist pretty early in the cycle | 15:37 |
| mgoddard | we just usually forget to update it | 15:37 |
| mgoddard | RDO master is always available IIUC | 15:38 |
| mgoddard | debian isn't even available at openstack release | 15:38 |
| mgoddard | alternatively we could just drop binary jobs | 15:39 |
| mgoddard | CI should be green | 15:39 |
| yoctozepto | we can drop them any time, just tell the word | 15:40 |
| yoctozepto | say* the word | 15:41 |
| yoctozepto | tell the world | 15:41 |
| * yoctozepto mixing words | 15:41 | |
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| mgoddard | well I guess we should just give it a try | 15:44 |
| mgoddard | and document it | 15:44 |
| yoctozepto | agreed | 15:44 |
| mgoddard | #action mgoddard document new release process | 15:45 |
| yoctozepto | sadly, nobody else is discussing that | 15:45 |
| mgoddard | #action start following new release process | 15:45 |
| mgoddard | #topic Documentation improvements http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2021-May/022478.html | 15:45 |
| mgoddard | did anyone else read through the recommendations? | 15:46 |
| yoctozepto | I find it ok | 15:46 |
| yoctozepto | want to see it in docs first | 15:47 |
| yoctozepto | I'm glad users have their own proposals | 15:47 |
| mgoddard | Klemen responded to the call for contributors and I'd like to make sure we're not blocking their help | 15:47 |
| yoctozepto | the docs should be for users | 15:47 |
| mgoddard | we could advise on how to break it up | 15:48 |
| mgoddard | some less contentious/challenging changes first | 15:48 |
| mgoddard | what about the admin/user split | 15:49 |
| mgoddard | I think we all agree to put everything under one, but which? | 15:49 |
| mgoddard | one of those or something different? | 15:49 |
| mgoddard | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/kollakall | 15:49 |
| mgoddard | maybe everything under admin? | 15:51 |
| yoctozepto | our users are admins/operators | 15:51 |
| mgoddard | given that our users are admins | 15:51 |
| yoctozepto | /deployers | 15:51 |
| yoctozepto | well, they could deploy and not administer | 15:52 |
| mgoddard | yes | 15:52 |
| yoctozepto | yet be our users | 15:52 |
| yoctozepto | everything under user then perhaps? | 15:52 |
| mgoddard | sure, I don't mind either way | 15:52 |
| yoctozepto | and start with "who is the kolla user" | 15:52 |
| mgoddard | so first change could be a simple move of existing admin sections under user, including redirects | 15:53 |
| yoctozepto | ++ | 15:53 |
| yoctozepto | me gusta | 15:54 |
| mgoddard | maybe some simple reordering of pages | 15:54 |
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| mgoddard | then work on the early intro/architecture pages | 15:55 |
| mgoddard | ok, I'll follow up on the ML | 15:56 |
| mgoddard | #action mgoddard follow up about documentation improvements | 15:56 |
| mgoddard | #topic RabbitMQ upgrade issues https://bugs.launchpad.net/kolla-ansible/+bug/1930293 | 15:56 |
| opendevmeet | Launchpad bug 1930293 in kolla-ansible xena "multinode rabbitmq failing upgrades" [High,Triaged] - Assigned to Radosław Piliszek (yoctozepto) | 15:56 |
| mgoddard | I hit this a few times recently | 15:56 |
| mgoddard | do you know what's going on? | 15:56 |
| yoctozepto | glad, /me fixing | 15:57 |
| yoctozepto | yeah, everything in the bug report | 15:57 |
| yoctozepto | a-z | 15:57 |
| yoctozepto | in summary, we got this other fix | 15:57 |
| yoctozepto | that introduced serial restarts | 15:57 |
| yoctozepto | and this conflicts with how ansible sees order and our stop logic | 15:57 |
| yoctozepto | however, we may just want rolling upgrades now | 15:57 |
| yoctozepto | they seem to work | 15:58 |
| yoctozepto | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/794026 | 15:58 |
| yoctozepto | v, w and x should be happy with this solution | 15:58 |
| yoctozepto | however, we got the original fix back to train | 15:58 |
| yoctozepto | and stein->train, train->ussuri might not be as happy | 15:58 |
| yoctozepto | to be established | 15:59 |
| yoctozepto | but I will recommend to apply the above fix to vwx | 15:59 |
| mgoddard | https://www.rabbitmq.com/upgrade.html#rolling-upgrades | 15:59 |
| yoctozepto | yeah, based on that | 15:59 |
| yoctozepto | they scare me we could be failing this on train->ussuri for we have 3.7 in train | 16:00 |
| mgoddard | and we're out of time | 16:01 |
| mgoddard | thanks everyone | 16:01 |
| yoctozepto | thanks mgoddard | 16:01 |
| mgoddard | #endmeeting | 16:01 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting ended Wed Jun 2 16:01:29 2021 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:01 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2021/kolla.2021-06-02-15.02.html | 16:01 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2021/kolla.2021-06-02-15.02.txt | 16:01 |
| opendevmeet | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2021/kolla.2021-06-02-15.02.log.html | 16:01 |
| * yoctozepto alias everyone | 16:01 | |
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| opendevreview | Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: [WIP] Try hide host systemd and dbus from libvirt https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/794262 | 16:04 |
| yoctozepto | meh, ubuntu failed pre-upgrade on volume stuff | 16:06 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: wdyt about having a minimal multinode upgrade job in gate, no ceph and friends, just ubuntu BUT gating | 16:07 |
| mgoddard | yoctozepto: I think we would merge fewer patches ;) | 16:08 |
| opendevreview | Mark Goddard proposed openstack/kayobe master: WIP: Make setup module arguments configurable https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/791976 | 16:18 |
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| opendevreview | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible stable/wallaby: [docker] Add support for setting CgroupnsMode https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/794174 | 16:26 |
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| yoctozepto | mgoddard: quality over quantity, Mark, quality over quantity ;-) | 16:39 |
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| opendevreview | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible stable/wallaby: Add support for Debian Bullseye (11) as host distro https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/794175 | 16:52 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible stable/wallaby: [CI] Move to Debian Bullseye https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/794178 | 16:52 |
| opendevreview | Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/wallaby: [CI] Drop Zuul host groups https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/794185 | 16:55 |
| opendevreview | Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/victoria: [CI] Drop Zuul host groups https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/794188 | 17:00 |
| opendevreview | Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/victoria: [CI] Drop Zuul host groups https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/794188 | 17:01 |
| opendevreview | Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/ussuri: [CI] Drop Zuul host groups https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/794189 | 17:02 |
| opendevreview | Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/ussuri: [CI] Drop Zuul host groups https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/794189 | 17:03 |
| kevko | yoctozepto: nit done :) | 17:21 |
| opendevreview | Michal Arbet proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Allow user to set sysctl_net_ipv4_tcp_retries2 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/777772 | 17:22 |
| yoctozepto | kevko: this really could have been a followup | 17:25 |
| kevko | yoctozepto: ah, sorry :( | 17:25 |
| kevko | yoctozepto: my email just blink ..so i fixed and uploaded .. | 17:25 |
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| kevko | yoctozepto: are u also developing tripleo ? | 17:28 |
| yoctozepto | kevko: am I? | 17:29 |
| kevko | better said tripleo-image-elements | 17:29 |
| yoctozepto | never heard of those till now | 17:29 |
| kevko | yoctozepto: hmm, found diiirty thing in heat-agent elements | 17:30 |
| yoctozepto | how dirty? | 17:30 |
| yoctozepto | as in "dirty dancing"? | 17:30 |
| yoctozepto | gerrit is sooooo slow | 17:31 |
| opendevreview | Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: chrony: allow to remove the container https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/792119 | 17:31 |
| kevko | yoctozepto: https://github.com/openstack/heat-agents/blob/master/heat-config/install.d/heat-config-source-install/50-heat-config-soure | 17:31 |
| yoctozepto | mgoddard: to stop you from self-loathing, I fixed the commit message as well ;-) | 17:31 |
| yoctozepto | kevko: fugly | 17:32 |
| kevko | yoctozepto: when building centos8 image ..guys in heat-agents upstream decided to do rpm -ql PACKAGE | xargs rm -f ; pip install PIP-PACKAGE-NAME | 17:33 |
| yoctozepto | kevko: yeah, it's awful | 17:33 |
| kevko | I'm shocked :D | 17:33 |
| yoctozepto | now you know why kolla >> everything_else | 17:33 |
| kevko | for example os-refresh-config and os-apply-config in tripleo is installing to /opt/stack/venv and using also some useful script around pip ...but heat-agents they just don't care :D | 17:34 |
| kevko | yoctozepto: well, I like kolla ..but there are lot of things which can be written better :P | 17:35 |
| yoctozepto | well, as far as I'm concerned, heat is not too healthy in general nowadays | 17:35 |
| yoctozepto | kevko: awaiting your patches | 17:35 |
| kevko | yoctozepto: don't agree ..using heat every day .. | 17:35 |
| yoctozepto | kevko: I didn't mean it does not work; I meant as a project | 17:36 |
| kevko | yoctozepto: actually, i'm building whole openstack template ..with nested stacks ..keys, networks, antiaffinity groups and tons of other things ..and it just works | 17:36 |
| kevko | for kolla tests | 17:37 |
| kevko | ^ ah, probably you have a better overview | 17:37 |
| yoctozepto | yeah, it does work | 17:38 |
| yoctozepto | but, honestly, it's been mostly replaced by tools such as ansible and terraform | 17:38 |
| yoctozepto | and lost popularity | 17:38 |
| redcavalier | Hi, I'm trying to run mariadb_recovery on my test infra. I ran it and it's failing because eth0 doesn't exist on localhost. Should I set a variable for localhost to use the proper network port? What variable should I set? | 17:39 |
| yoctozepto | I *think* tripleo is also going away from heat (if they have not already), relying more on ansible | 17:39 |
| yoctozepto | redcavalier: network_interface; but it's a bug if it requires that; report https://bugs.launchpad.net/kolla-ansible | 17:40 |
| redcavalier | I'll try it with that and we'll see | 17:40 |
| redcavalier | I tried with api_interface earlier (I have api_interface commented out in globals and set in inventory file for each server) and it didn't work but I'll try network_interface | 17:41 |
| yoctozepto | network_interface sets most of them | 17:43 |
| yoctozepto | I wonder where it wanted that eth0 | 17:43 |
| redcavalier | I think it's mariadb_clustercheck_port that's looking for it | 17:43 |
| redcavalier | not sure though | 17:44 |
| redcavalier | I mean, the error is fairly long and has if statements | 17:44 |
| * yoctozepto off | 17:45 | |
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| redcavalier | ah I got it | 17:50 |
| redcavalier | forgot to specify inventory file, so it was running all-in-one | 17:50 |
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| kevko | yoctozepto: yeah, you are right ..but still not dead as some openstack projects | 17:51 |
| kevko | yoctozepto: for example, worst openstack project ever i've tried was freezer ...and kolla has images and k-a for it ...not working :D :D ..but don't understand why it is there | 17:52 |
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| opendevreview | Radosław Piliszek proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: [WIP] Try hide host systemd and dbus from libvirt https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/794262 | 19:42 |
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| opendevreview | Imtiaz Chowdhury proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Keystone automatically register custom domains https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/790814 | 20:07 |
| imtiazc | Can someone please review https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/790814? | 20:08 |
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