opendevreview | Boxiang Zhu proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add skyline service https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/828464 | 01:23 |
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opendevreview | Boxiang Zhu proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: [CI] Add skyline scenario https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/861687 | 01:23 |
hrw | morning | 09:55 |
hrw | any core alive? | 09:55 |
hrw | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/861862 waits for !kevko to push it | 09:55 |
kevko | i am live | 09:56 |
kevko | but i already gave +2 | 09:56 |
hrw | that's why 'for !kevko' ;D | 09:57 |
hrw | kevko: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/862482 then | 09:57 |
hrw | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/861861 too | 09:58 |
hrw | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/860692 is also waiting | 09:58 |
opendevreview | Michal Nasiadka proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Remove support for deploying OpenStack Monasca https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/861392 | 11:20 |
opendevreview | Verification of a change to openstack/kolla master failed: Fix incorrect type conversion for cmd option '--docker-dir' https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/656603 | 11:35 |
opendevreview | Verification of a change to openstack/kolla master failed: proxysql: use Jammy repo for Ubuntu https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/861862 | 11:52 |
frickler | meh, centos+rocky look all broken | 12:10 |
frickler | looks like the same epel mirror issue that osa complained about earlier in #opendev https://062b194e5e6e841b5adf-7651d79ea360a4aa04fbe96029f7a5e2.ssl.cf1.rackcdn.com/656603/4/gate/kolla-ansible-rocky9-source/b2fede2/primary/logs/build/000_FAILED_mariadb-server.log | 12:17 |
frickler | maybe someone would like to check upstream mirror status and possibly find some better mirror for infra to rsync from | 12:18 |
opendevreview | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Default to Rocky Linux instead of CentOS Stream https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/860692 | 12:20 |
frickler | mnasiadka: that issue isn't expected to be resolved by rechecking | 12:32 |
mnasiadka | ah, that's EPEL mirror, I have overlooked that | 12:33 |
mnasiadka | thought these are the unmirrored Rocky repos | 12:33 |
dcapone2004 | question on KA version numbering …. I am trying to install Zed on Rocky Linux in an AIO as a dev server...I noticed that the master branch seems to be using version 14.1.xxx … when this goes to release, I am assuming this will be version 15.0, correct? | 13:08 |
dcapone2004 | or am I off in the version numbering | 13:08 |
mnasiadka | Yes, but we recommend installing directly from git stable branches | 13:27 |
dcapone2004 | ok, the current documentation points to using the master branch, so maybe this is a documentation error....what is the current git stable branch for zed? | 13:28 |
opendevreview | Ivan Halomi proposed openstack/ansible-collection-kolla master: Adding podman support https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ansible-collection-kolla/+/852240 | 13:42 |
opendevreview | Ivan Halomi proposed openstack/ansible-collection-kolla master: Adding podman support https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ansible-collection-kolla/+/852240 | 13:45 |
mnasiadka | dcapone2004: current documentation for master branch | 13:50 |
mnasiadka | latest stable release for kolla-ansible is Yoga | 13:50 |
mnasiadka | we haven't done a release yet | 13:50 |
dcapone2004 | ok, I misunderstood...you meant when a release occurs, you recommend using git instead of the versioned pip | 13:51 |
mnasiadka | yes | 13:53 |
mnasiadka | we are trying to release often since some time, but... | 13:53 |
mnasiadka | to get newest fixes (and newest bugs) you should use the stable branch ;-) | 13:54 |
mnasiadka | mgoddard mnasiadka hrw yoctozepto bbezak parallax Fl1nt frickler adrian-a kevko - meeting in 6 minutes | 13:54 |
dcapone2004 | does the latest stable yoga support RL 9 yet? I tried the pip 14.5 and it didn't...purpose of this dev environment is to test RL9 with openstack and eventually some migration testing...so maybe I need to just wait a bit | 13:56 |
mnasiadka | No, RL9 will be first in Zed once it's released | 13:58 |
mnasiadka | and we'll backport to Yoga (actually I should start doing that) | 13:58 |
dcapone2004 | ok thanks...I'll shut up now to not interrupt your meeting | 13:59 |
dcapone2004 | :-) | 13:59 |
mnasiadka | #startmeeting kolla | 14:00 |
opendevmeet | Meeting started Wed Oct 26 14:00:00 2022 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mnasiadka. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
opendevmeet | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
opendevmeet | The meeting name has been set to 'kolla' | 14:00 |
mnasiadka | #topic rollcall | 14:00 |
mnasiadka | o/ | 14:00 |
ebbex | o/ | 14:00 |
jhorstmann | o/ | 14:00 |
ramona-beermann[m] | o/ | 14:00 |
frickler | \o | 14:01 |
bbezak | \o | 14:01 |
TimBeermann[m] | o/ | 14:02 |
ravlew | o7 | 14:02 |
mnasiadka | #topic agenda | 14:02 |
mnasiadka | * CI status | 14:02 |
mnasiadka | * Release tasks | 14:02 |
mnasiadka | * Regular stable releases (first meeting in a month) | 14:02 |
mnasiadka | * Current cycle planning | 14:02 |
mnasiadka | * Additional agenda (from whiteboard) | 14:02 |
mnasiadka | * Open discussion | 14:02 |
mnasiadka | #topic CI status | 14:02 |
mnasiadka | I think we have some gate breakage due to EPEL 9 | 14:02 |
frickler | yes, do we want to wait or make stuff non-voting? | 14:03 |
mnasiadka | well, probably most of the patches would be happier if we would really build and publish - and most of them are rocky9 related | 14:04 |
mnasiadka | is it going to fix itself, or is someone proposing to change the mirror in the config? | 14:04 |
frickler | not sure yet, this has happened before, but I'm not involved in any redhatty things | 14:05 |
frickler | finding a stable, reliable mirror might be helpful | 14:06 |
mnasiadka | ok, I'll check on #opendev after the meeting | 14:06 |
mnasiadka | #topic Release tasks | 14:06 |
mnasiadka | So, basically before we branch and release an rc1 - for kolla/kolla-ansible we need OpenSearch merged (still in progress, I'll add some CI to it), for kayobe we need Rocky Linux 9 patch - and probably OpenSearch followup - in progress, bbezak working on it | 14:07 |
mnasiadka | bbezak: any progress? | 14:07 |
bbezak | been caught up in customer work this week, will progress later this week. Got some input from ebbex | 14:08 |
mnasiadka | great | 14:08 |
mnasiadka | do we have any other patches that need to be merged in Zed? | 14:09 |
mnasiadka | I know we assumed systemd, but now that we have review velocity problems - it might be complicated | 14:09 |
mnasiadka | ok, seems none | 14:10 |
mnasiadka | #topic Current cycle planning | 14:10 |
mnasiadka | Current probably means Antelope | 14:10 |
mnasiadka | I'll tidy up PTG notes this week and send out a summary on the ML | 14:11 |
mnasiadka | I'll also populate whiteboard with priorities for this cycle | 14:11 |
opendevreview | Ivan Halomi proposed openstack/ansible-collection-kolla master: Adding podman support https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ansible-collection-kolla/+/852240 | 14:11 |
mnasiadka | #topic Additional agenda (from whiteboard) | 14:12 |
mnasiadka | (jhorstmann) adding grafana loki (https://grafana.com/oss/loki/) as an additional log store to kolla/kolla-ansible | 14:12 |
mnasiadka | additional details on https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/KollaWhiteBoard#L53 | 14:12 |
jhorstmann | yes, we have been looking at grafana loki for our log management and would like to add it to our stack, which we deploy with kolla | 14:13 |
jhorstmann | so, the question is wether kolla would be interested in having support for loki upstream? | 14:13 |
mnasiadka | I think yes, given we find reviewers to review and guide you towards merging this | 14:14 |
mnasiadka | What is the storage backend Loki would need? | 14:14 |
frickler | I heard about loki some time ago and it sounds interesting to me. I didn't look closer yet, but I sure would be interested in looking at it in more detail | 14:14 |
mnasiadka | Looking at https://grafana.com/docs/loki/latest/operations/storage/ - doesn't ring a bell which one would be easy to add to k/k-a | 14:15 |
jhorstmann | there are a lot of different backends (https://grafana.com/docs/loki/latest/storage/), but we thought about starting just with local storage | 14:15 |
jhorstmann | overriding the config to use a different backend should be straight forward. e.g. an existing object store | 14:16 |
mnasiadka | I think we need to make sure local storage would work for HA | 14:16 |
jhorstmann | that might be a problem | 14:16 |
jhorstmann | loki does not have a builtin replication mechanism and relies on a distributed storage backend for HA | 14:17 |
mnasiadka | That means we're left with either Object Storage or adding Apache Cassandra | 14:17 |
frickler | would be interesting to know whether "S3" also means it works on RGW | 14:17 |
jhorstmann | frickler: I have not tested that, but I think it should | 14:18 |
frickler | but for starting, local storage would be fine IMO | 14:18 |
mnasiadka | on a single node - well for starting probably yes, and then we can sort out the implementation issues | 14:19 |
mnasiadka | anyway, jhorstmann can you add something about it on https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/kolla-antelope-ptg#L215 - I'll add it to cycle priorities with your name on it - and we'll see how it goes | 14:19 |
jhorstmann | sure, will do | 14:20 |
mnasiadka | thanks | 14:20 |
mnasiadka | Another topic | 14:20 |
mnasiadka | (mnasiadka) Review velocity | 14:20 |
mnasiadka | I think with Radek away (or spending minimum amount of time on reviews) - we're going to get soon in a spot that we would not like to be | 14:21 |
mnasiadka | currently me and hrw are raising k/k-a patches - that need a third person to merge them - especially those patches that are needed for Zed release | 14:21 |
frickler | I can do some, but I'm really not comfortable approving rocky patches | 14:23 |
frickler | I can ask cberendt whether he can spare some time, but I expect him to be similarly reluctant on that topic | 14:23 |
mnasiadka | I understand, and we're not going to be able to reach the same velocity as before soon | 14:23 |
frickler | so the question then might be whether we should agree to single-approve certain things | 14:24 |
mnasiadka | Short term probably we should - for Rocky/CentOS based things | 14:24 |
mnasiadka | in the meantime I'll try to bring more SHPC colleagues to start doing reviews often - so in a couple of months time we could get more core reviewers - but unfortunately from the same company as me | 14:25 |
frickler | and longer term if no cores interested in rocky turn up, that might be a reason to consider deprecating it again | 14:25 |
frickler | we cannot maintain things without reviewers | 14:25 |
mnasiadka | Well, StackHPC promised to do CentOS/Rocky in Kolla/Kolla-Ansible - so I think we need to step up and have more core reviewers in a longer term | 14:27 |
mnasiadka | But with that direction, we'll need to raise exception on the single-company-commit rule for CentOS/Rocky | 14:27 |
mnasiadka | is that fine? | 14:27 |
frickler | fine for me | 14:27 |
mnasiadka | ok then, we have some path forward | 14:28 |
mnasiadka | thanks | 14:28 |
mnasiadka | #topic Open discussion | 14:28 |
mnasiadka | Do we have any open points for today? | 14:28 |
frickler | just mentioning that the discussion about the next ptg has started | 14:29 |
frickler | #link https://openinfrafoundation.formstack.com/forms/openinfra_ptg_2023 | 14:29 |
mnasiadka | Ah right, I saw the discussion around having PTG colocated with Summit | 14:29 |
mnasiadka | I think still for Kolla projects - we would prefer to have that remotely in the usual timeframe | 14:30 |
* frickler won't travel anywhere, so it is virtual or nothing for me | 14:30 | |
frickler | I also added a comment about extending the timeframe to reduce overlap. if the TC can do, why should other projects not follow their lead? | 14:30 |
frickler | but maybe I'm also just a weird unicorn with all my involvement | 14:31 |
mnasiadka | Might be, I don't have an opinion - but having a PTG in June just before the vacation season seems like loosing some time | 14:32 |
ramona-beermann[m] | then we are two unicorns :) | 14:32 |
mnasiadka | Anyway, let's see how the discussion evolves - and fill out the form for those interested | 14:33 |
mnasiadka | I don't see any other topics being raised - so let's finish for today | 14:34 |
mnasiadka | Thanks for coming! | 14:34 |
mnasiadka | #endmeeting | 14:34 |
opendevmeet | Meeting ended Wed Oct 26 14:34:39 2022 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:34 |
opendevmeet | Minutes: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/kolla/2022/kolla.2022-10-26-14.00.html | 14:34 |
opendevmeet | Minutes (text): https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/kolla/2022/kolla.2022-10-26-14.00.txt | 14:34 |
opendevmeet | Log: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/kolla/2022/kolla.2022-10-26-14.00.log.html | 14:34 |
frickler | thx mnasiadka | 14:35 |
opendevreview | Boxiang Zhu proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add skyline service https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/828464 | 14:59 |
opendevreview | Boxiang Zhu proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: [CI] Add skyline scenario https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/861687 | 14:59 |
frickler | I just saw that kayobe is using storyboard. not sure if you are happy with that decision or not, but this thread might be interesting either way https://lists.opendev.org/pipermail/service-discuss/2022-October/000370.html | 15:27 |
opendevreview | Ivan Halomi proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Usage of kolla_container_engine variable instead of docker https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/862746 | 18:38 |
opendevreview | Ivan Halomi proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Adding common_options to kolla_toolbox module https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/862751 | 19:37 |
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