Wednesday, 2024-01-17

kevkobbezak: will you have a time to fix that kolla-ansible upgrade CI jobs ? 07:57
kevkomorning \o07:57
opendevreviewRoman Krček proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Split ipv4 and ipv6 systemctl config  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/90583108:07
kevkofrickler: can u check please my reply comment in my designate patch if you have a min ? 08:27
bbezakmorning, kevko: yeah I'll look into that today08:29
opendevreviewRafal Lewandowski proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: [WIP] Enable ML2/OVN and distributed FIP by default  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/90495908:37
opendevreviewIvan Halomi proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Refactor of getting list of containers that will also prepare function for migration scenario  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/90583708:48
kevkobbezak: thanks 09:17
opendevreviewGrzegorz Koper proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Configuring nova-compute to support vendordata over configdrive.  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/90584309:56
opendevreviewGrzegorz Koper proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Configuring nova-compute to support vendordata over configdrive.  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/90584310:01
opendevreviewMichal Arbet proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Disable instace usage audit  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/90550210:50
opendevreviewMichal Arbet proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: [DNM] Test designate  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/90564410:50
opendevreviewMatt Crees proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Fix OpenSearch upgrade tasks idempotency  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/90585110:58
opendevreviewMichal Arbet proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Disable instace usage audit  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/90550211:03
opendevreviewMichal Arbet proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: [DNM] Test designate  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/90564411:03
opendevreviewMichal Arbet proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Fix neutron DNS integration  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/90585211:03
opendevreviewIvan Halomi proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Refactor of getting list of containers that will also prepare function for migration scenario  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/90583711:27
opendevreviewMichal Arbet proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Fix neutron DNS integration  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/90585211:27
opendevreviewMichal Arbet proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: [DNM] Test designate  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/90564411:27
*** ravlew is now known as Guest1442311:33
opendevreviewMichal Arbet proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Enable instance usage audit only when ceilometer is enabled  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/90550211:34
opendevreviewMichal Arbet proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Fix neutron DNS integration  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/90585211:34
opendevreviewMichal Arbet proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: [DNM] Test designate  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/90564411:34
*** ravlew2 is now known as ravlew11:37
opendevreviewBartosz Bezak proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: use docker_custom_config override for Kolla CI upgrade jobs  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/90585811:51
opendevreviewBartosz Bezak proposed openstack/kolla master: Fix openstack CADF audit maps and installation  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/90457611:52
opendevreviewMichal Arbet proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Fix neutron DNS integration  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/90585212:35
opendevreviewMichal Arbet proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: [DNM] Test designate  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/90564412:35
opendevreviewMichal Arbet proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: [CI] Test neutron DNS integration and designate  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/90564413:02
opendevreviewUwe Jäger proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Update skyline configuration to enable sso  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/90586013:02
opendevreviewUwe Jäger proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Allow customizing of skyline configuration  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/90586113:03
opendevreviewUwe Jäger proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Update skyline configuration to enable sso  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/90586013:15
opendevreviewBartosz Bezak proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: use docker_custom_config override for Kolla CI upgrade jobs  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/90585813:37
bbezakmgoddard mnasiadka bbezak frickler kevko SvenKieske mmalchuk gkoper jangutter jsuazo jovial osmanlicilegi mattcrees Kolla meeting in 10 minutes13:50
bbezak#startmeeting kolla14:00
opendevmeetMeeting started Wed Jan 17 14:00:17 2024 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is bbezak. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
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opendevmeetThe meeting name has been set to 'kolla'14:00
bbezak#topic rollcall14:00
mmalchuk\o14:00
SvenKieskeo/ 14:00
mhinero/14:00
frickler\o14:00
janguttero/14:01
mattcreeso/14:02
bbezak#topic agenda14:02
bbezak* Announcements14:02
bbezak* Review action items from the last meeting14:02
bbezak* CI status14:02
bbezak* Release tasks14:02
bbezak* Regular stable releases (first meeting in a month)14:02
bbezak* Current cycle planning14:02
bbezak* Additional agenda (from whiteboard)14:02
bbezak* Open discussion14:02
bbezak#topic CI status14:03
bbezakKolla master is red14:03
bbezakfixing it for now with https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/90585814:03
bbezakhowever I don't think it is a final approach14:03
bbezakas we're using the same var for configuring docker daemon and container images source for kolla-ansible. That maybe not the best approach14:04
fricklerdo you have a patch up in kolla to verify your fix?14:04
bbezakit is only seen in Kolla CI invoked k-a upgrade jobs14:04
SvenKieskesounds like a good observation to me14:04
bbezakhttps://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/90457614:05
fricklerthx. and I agree splitting vars sounds reasonable14:05
bbezakupgrade jobs finished there, however I've updated commit message, so we need to wait a bit for them to finish second time https://zuul.opendev.org/t/openstack/status#90457614:05
bbezakhopefully we can fix it soon for now14:06
bbezakand come with more general follow up next14:07
bbezak#topic Release tasks14:07
bbezakas we wanted to go back to monthly releases, I've pushed most of stable backports last week14:07
bbezakand I want to wait with monthly release after this CI fix from above14:08
bbezakwill raise release patch as soon as we merge it14:08
bbezakI think at some point we need to update this spreadsheet - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MS2KEhr5yMXEjD5ywU8peJomBNT0Va8bN8wy8hvodVY/edit#gid=014:09
kevko\o14:09
bbezakwill add a note for it14:10
fricklerwhat's in that sheet? I don't like to open a google doc14:10
SvenKieskeI didn't even know this spreadsheet is a thing, until now.14:10
bbezaklink to it is in the kolla whiteboard14:11
bbezakhttps://etherpad.opendev.org/p/KollaWhiteBoard#L15614:11
bbezakI'll ask mnasiadka about it when he is back in couple of weeks14:11
bbezak#topic Current cycle planning14:12
bbezaklooking at caracal priorities. I've seen that ravlew started working on his ovn by default enablement14:13
bbezakof course that also need a CI revamp a bit, so it'll take some time14:13
fricklerand /me started discussing about details a bit ;)14:13
bbezakcool14:14
frickler#link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/90495914:14
fricklerjust for reference14:14
bbezakthx frickler14:14
bbezakjust pasted to the whiteboard https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/KollaWhiteBoard#L23314:15
bbezakif anybody have already some patches for priorities please put them in the whiteboard14:15
mattcreesI've got a couple of bugfixes on the go, will add them there14:16
bbezakjust add your nickname there that we're aware who put them :)14:17
mattcreesSure thing14:18
SvenKieskeI put https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/882497 there additionally, want to introduce shellcheck to bring some sanity to our bash scripts ;) need to resolve conflicts and tests though (again)14:19
bbezakgreat, if anobody have something already half-baked from priorities and wanted to discuss the best approach please post questions in irc/changes14:19
SvenKieskereviews would still be nice, also some openstack core test now fails, which I still haven't figured out why14:19
bbezakthx SvenKieske. I haven't look into that change yet, will do some reading14:21
bbezak#topic Additional agenda (from whiteboard)14:21
bbezakfrickler Stop/disable/cleanup services14:22
SvenKieskesome users wanted to extend the skyline configurability, I added patches they supplied to the whiteboard just now14:22
fricklermnasiadka helpfully added some links to prior art. I need to check those14:22
bbezakthx SvenKieske14:23
fricklernothing more to add regarding cleanup from me at this point14:23
bbezakthat would be nice feature, thx frickler14:23
bbezakfrickler Deploy split glance services14:24
bbezaksome volunteer needed for that14:24
bbezakwill add it to priorities14:24
SvenKieskeI'm sorry, but can someone point me to the correct line on our whiteboard for that? I'm unable to find it.. (need some sleep I guess :D)14:25
fricklerI would do that, but if anyone wants to help, that would be nice14:25
fricklerL6614:25
SvenKieskefound it, ty14:25
bbezakhttps://etherpad.opendev.org/p/KollaWhiteBoard#L6614:25
fricklerso I'll add that to the priorities list, too. seems it is getting pretty crowded14:27
bbezakI don't think we should add regular bugfixes to priorites14:27
opendevreviewPierre Riteau proposed openstack/kayobe stable/yoga: Switch IPA builds to CentOS Stream 9 for yoga  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/90324214:27
bbezakjust ping reviewers and cores to review :)14:28
fricklerwell it may depend on how review intensive they are14:28
fricklerbut I agree in general14:28
mattcreesFair enough, I'll take them back off14:28
frickleralso set RP+114:29
bbezakexactly14:29
bbezakL70 we already covered14:29
bbezakmhiner Container engine migration14:30
mhinerI would to reach some agreement about the CI tests14:31
fricklerI'll need to look at the patch mentioned there and the logs14:31
frickler#link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/83694114:31
SvenKieskein general you can also ping me for reviews, I'll scream if it's too much ;)14:31
mhineralright14:32
mhineradditionally i would like for someone to take a look at ansible/roles/container-engine-migration/tasks/cleanup.yml14:33
bbezakI haven't look into that change too much unfortunately. lack of logs after migration is pretty important to look into14:33
bbezakwill try to look into it14:33
mhinerfirst task which deletes old container engine files produces massive logs (80MB, 300K lines)14:33
fricklerusing no_log seems reasonable in that case14:34
mhineris it okay? for now I added no_log: true to suppress it14:34
SvenKieske+114:34
bbezaklooks pretty scary if some task before will not work as intended :)14:35
SvenKieskeyeah, the best option would be if this could be filtered or split up somehow, but I don't have looked into the details if that is even possible?14:36
fricklerthe other option would be to leave cleanup as a manual task I guess? just don't add another -yes-i-really-mean-to-copy-this-option-from-the-docs-without-understanding-it14:36
bbezakas a CLI command14:37
mhinerthat is also a option14:37
mhinerall the volumes will be moved so theoretically all that is left are some configs from the old container engine14:37
fricklerif it is just some configs, why 300k lines?14:39
SvenKieskecan we split this cleanup task in multiple smaller tasks? maybe it's only a few "cleanup" items that account for the majority of the 300k lines?14:40
mhineryeah, it's not just configs, my bad14:40
mhinerI still have those logs saved and majority of lines come from deletion in /var/lib/docker/overlay2/14:41
bbezakI've added RP1 for this change14:42
SvenKieskeI guess one line per file/symlink? maybe we can collapse this somehow14:42
mhineryes, that's the case14:42
frickleruse "command: rf -rf" in this case instead of "file: state: absent", even if that's non-ansiblic?14:43
bbezakwell, removal of whole directory14:43
bbezakabove would solve it14:43
bbezakI mean the current engine main path14:43
frickleranyway, maybe we can continue this discussion on the review after having looked at this in more detail?14:44
bbezakif that's what we want to achieve14:44
bbezakyeah14:44
bbezak#topic Open discussion14:44
SvenKieskeyeah, I was also thinking about something like `find -bla -delete` and only logging errors from that14:45
fricklerI have one topic regarding yoga eol14:45
frickleriiuc so far we have been waiting for the release team to finish the automation for the new "unmaintained" state14:46
fricklerbut it seems we could move to eol right now regardless of that, do we want that? or does someone still want to keep yoga around?14:46
bbezakwe still got several clouds on yoga. however definitely we should go to EOL yoga in this cycle14:47
bbezakor next at most14:48
bbezakimho14:48
bbezakas yoga is a stepping stone for CS8/RL914:48
SvenKieskeI think there are still some patches for yoga in flight, I guess that list could get updated and we should maybe ask to not propose any new patches for yoga then?14:48
bbezakand such migration is taking a while14:48
SvenKieskeon the other hand I don't know if there is actual harm of patches being proposed and/or merged in yoga14:48
bbezakyoga is somewhat a LTS release from CS8/RL9 migration perspective14:49
SvenKiesketo me it feels it should be the other way around, honestly. Maybe I don't have a good enough understanding of the release process. There should be three phases (like debian):14:49
fricklerimo it is just useless extra work for reviewers, but I can also just ignore reviews for that branch14:50
bbezakit's rather a supporting burden14:50
bbezakbut good point frickler, we should do EOL of yoga soon'ish14:50
SvenKieske1. declare feature/patch freeze (no new patches proposed); maybe add a tag for that on the branch 2. merge existing patches 3. declare EOL via Tag 14:50
bbezakI need to check of status of unmaintained branches14:51
SvenKieskecurrently we do: 1. merge existing patches 2. go back to 1. until there are no patches anymore 3. declare EOL via Tag14:51
fricklerthose three things should happen in quick succession IMO, no need to make explicit phases for each14:51
opendevreviewPierre Riteau proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Drop more remnants of install_type  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/90588014:52
SvenKieskewell I guess a problem is that new patches are faster to propose than existing patches getting merged14:52
bbezakok, we've got that on our radar then14:53
fricklerthat just needs some concerted reviewer effort. another option is to just abandon unmerged patches14:53
bbezakyeah, we're usually either merging or abandoning unmerged patches when doing EOL14:53
bbezakand release team is checking if there are no patches awaiting in queue14:54
SvenKieskeThere should be a clear cutoff date or other criteria as a patch submitter so I can know if my patch will be merged, no?14:54
bbezakok, anything else to discuss?14:54
fricklerso maybe I can propose a release patch for that, but wip it until more feedback comes in and maybe mnasiadka is back, too14:54
bbezakyeah, I don't want to do EOL without PTL around14:54
bbezakok, thx frickler14:55
SvenKieskemaybe it's better if I pester the release team with this stuff?14:55
SvenKieskeI find it problematic, that there is this kind of no-mans-land/twilight zone, where it's not clear if patches will be merged or get abandoned last minute.14:56
fricklerusually the predicted dates in the release schedule work well. the current change in methods has sadly lead to delays14:56
frickleryou never can be sure whether a patch gets merged or rejected anyway14:57
SvenKieskealright, if it's only a one-off event I'm fine with keeping everything like it is. I'll watch what happens the next EOL release cycle then :)14:57
bbezakok, let's wait for making decisions for PTL to be back from vacation. I'll add a note for that14:57
bbezakok I think we're done for today, thank your for joining14:58
bbezak#endmeeting14:58
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SvenKieskethank you for taking over for the PTL :)14:58
fricklerthx bbezak 14:58
bbezaknp14:59
mmalchukthanks bbezak 15:00
opendevreviewGrzegorz Koper proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Configuring nova-compute to support vendordata over configdrive.  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/90584315:21
opendevreviewUwe Jäger proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Update skyline configuration to enable sso  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/90586015:57
opendevreviewMichal Arbet proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Fix neutron DNS integration  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/90585216:04
opendevreviewMichal Arbet proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: [CI] Test neutron DNS integration and designate  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/90564416:04
opendevreviewPierre Riteau proposed openstack/kayobe stable/yoga: Switch IPA builds to CentOS Stream 9 for yoga  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/90324216:47
opendevreviewMichal Arbet proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: [CI] Test neutron DNS integration and designate  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/90564416:55
opendevreviewPiotr Parczewski proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Adjust Ceph metrics scrape interval in Prometheus  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/90212920:40
opendevreviewGrzegorz Koper proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Configure nova-compute to support exposing vendordata over configdrive  https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/90584322:00

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