| opendevreview | Maksim Malchuk proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/2024.2: Fix typo in kolla-ansible metavar https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/947319 | 06:53 |
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| opendevreview | Marek Buch proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Add support for volume label filtering https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/947116 | 08:03 |
| opendevreview | Matt Crees proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/2024.2: Add oslo.messaging Queue Manager https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/945808 | 08:26 |
| opendevreview | Matt Crees proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/2024.2: Rabbitmq: enable quorum for transient queues https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/945809 | 08:26 |
| opendevreview | Matt Crees proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/2024.2: rabbitmq: Add support for using stream queues for fanout https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/946993 | 08:26 |
| opendevreview | Matt Crees proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/2024.2: Upgrade RabbitMQ docs for the Dalmatian release https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/947097 | 08:26 |
| opendevreview | Matt Crees proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/2024.1: Add oslo.messaging Queue Manager https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/945812 | 08:30 |
| opendevreview | Matt Crees proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/2024.1: Rabbitmq: enable quorum for transient queues https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/945813 | 08:30 |
| opendevreview | Matt Crees proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/2024.1: rabbitmq: Add support for using stream queues for fanout https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/946994 | 08:30 |
| opendevreview | Matt Crees proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/2024.1: Upgrade RabbitMQ docs for the Caracal release https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/947096 | 08:30 |
| MattCrees[m] | Good morning :) | 08:32 |
| MattCrees[m] | frickler: I've updated both rabbit patch chains | 08:32 |
| opendevreview | Matt Crees proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Drop RabbitMQ SLURP docs https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/947363 | 08:38 |
| frickler | MattCrees[m]: thx, I'll wait for CI and then have another look | 08:44 |
| MattCrees[m] | Cheers | 08:45 |
| frickler | MattCrees[m]: bbezak: this doesn't look related to the rmq backports, more an issue with noble on 2024.1, maybe one of you wants to take a look anyway? https://zuul.opendev.org/t/openstack/build/a7886bcd78264a0992c1a942076917a7 | 10:00 |
| MattCrees[m] | Ah, we saw that in Kayobe. The version of oslo.utils pinned in 2024.1 doesn't work with Noble. https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/946537 | 10:02 |
| MattCrees[m] | Just affects the ironic client afaict | 10:03 |
| opendevreview | Jack Hodgkiss proposed openstack/kolla stable/2024.1: nova/aarch64: Fix qemu-efi build failures https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/947442 | 11:28 |
| frickler | MattCrees[m]: oh, so we'd need to override u-c there I'd think | 12:06 |
| sara-kh | Hello everyone, I have a question about upgrading OpenStack. May I ask it here? | 12:26 |
| bbezak | Hello. of course you can sara-kh. we could probably help in kolla-ansible/kayobe related deployments the most | 12:35 |
| sara-kh | bbezak: Thank you,I have a deployment of OpenStack using DevStack (Yoga). In this deployment, many resources have been created for users. I also have a new deployment of OpenStack using Kolla Ansible (2024.2). I want to migrate resources like networks, keys, projects, and security groups from the old OpenStack to the Kolla OpenStack, preferably in an automated manner. I want to create a file using Heat templates from the infrastructure of the | 12:37 |
| sara-kh | previous OpenStack and then recreate that stack in the Kolla OpenStack using Heat? | 12:37 |
| sara-kh | Does this approach seem logical to you? Can we also consider ways similar to importing the old database into the MariaDB service in the new deployment? | 12:37 |
| frickler | bbezak: do you want to recheck to rmq stack or should I just reapply your +2s and approve everything? | 12:40 |
| bbezak | I just run +w on 2024.2 versions | 12:40 |
| frickler | ah, cool, thx. I'll do 2024.1 next | 12:41 |
| bbezak | sara-kh: importing old db entries is risky as there are probably some schemas differences between yoga and Dalmatian - however if done with decent care and testing might work. but it is a stretch and I wouldn't recommend that approach | 12:41 |
| bbezak | for heat - I didn't use that much, so I cannot say if it is possible to recreate all resources, and if that is advisable. | 12:42 |
| bbezak | maybe better to use sth like terraform/opentofu? | 12:43 |
| frickler | note to readers: please don't use devstack for anything important, ever. | 12:43 |
| bbezak | +2 | 12:43 |
| * frickler would suggest to use the ansible openstack module to automate resource handling, but there's likely no automated import for that, either | 12:44 | |
| amir58118 | +1 | 12:45 |
| sara-kh | bbezak: I also prefer the way of creating template file (HOT) from the previous infrastructure. Unfortunately, I don't have enough experience using Terraform. | 12:47 |
| frickler | for project and quota management in particular we use https://osism.tech/docs/guides/operations-guide/openstack/tools/project-manager/ downstream, might be worth a look, too | 12:48 |
| bbezak | yeah. +1 for ansible - probably not that fast in scale though - for example https://github.com/stackhpc/openstack-config | 12:49 |
| bbezak_2 | mnasiadka bbezak frickler kevko SvenKieske mmalchuk gkoper jangutter jsuazo jovial osmanlicilegi mattcrees dougszu darmach pabloclsn ravlew amir58118 meeting in 9 | 12:51 |
| sara-kh | frickler: Thank you, I will review your suggestion. | 12:54 |
| bbezak | #startmeeting kolla | 13:00 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting started Wed Apr 16 13:00:06 2025 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bbezak. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:00 |
| opendevmeet | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:00 |
| opendevmeet | The meeting name has been set to 'kolla' | 13:00 |
| bbezak | #topic rollcall | 13:00 |
| enick_764 | o7 | 13:00 |
| r-krcek | o/ | 13:00 |
| amir58118 | o/ | 13:00 |
| MattCrees[m] | o/ | 13:01 |
| frickler | \o | 13:01 |
| msalari | \o/ | 13:01 |
| bbezak | #topic agenda | 13:01 |
| bbezak_2 | * Roll-call * Agenda * Announcements * Review action items from the last meeting * CI status * Release tasks * Regular stable releases (first meeting in a month) * Current cycle planning * Additional agenda (from whiteboard) * Open discussion | 13:02 |
| bbezak | I'm getting worse and worse and worse at agenda bit :) | 13:03 |
| bbezak | #topic CI status | 13:03 |
| bbezak | frickler: found a ironic CI 2024.1 bug that we need to fix | 13:03 |
| bbezak | I can take a look at that | 13:04 |
| MattCrees[m] | Kayobe CI is red on multiple fronts. I'm trying to get fixes to the rocky jobs through, keep needing rechecks to unrelated errors in 2023.2 though https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/947127 | 13:04 |
| MattCrees[m] | Once that's in, I should be able to fix the other issue: rabbitmq for master | 13:04 |
| bbezak | in Kayobe that is? | 13:05 |
| bbezak | (rabbitmq) | 13:05 |
| frickler | 2023.2 will go eol in two weeks, maybe don't put too much effort into that | 13:05 |
| MattCrees[m] | Yes | 13:05 |
| MattCrees[m] | It needs the queue migrations in upgrade jobs, I have a patch up already too | 13:05 |
| bbezak | ok | 13:05 |
| bbezak | good | 13:05 |
| bbezak | #topic Release tasks | 13:05 |
| bbezak | we're finishing rabbitmq 4 stuff | 13:06 |
| bbezak | and we still need promv3 | 13:06 |
| bbezak | which is on my radar | 13:06 |
| frickler | what about the container migration stuff? I still didn't get to a proper review for that | 13:06 |
| frickler | so docker->podman | 13:06 |
| frickler | (not sure if the other direction is needed/supported as well) | 13:07 |
| r-krcek | in theory it should work, but I dont think we are testing for this | 13:07 |
| frickler | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/836941 in particular | 13:08 |
| bbezak | I'm wondering if we should flag that as experimental? | 13:08 |
| r-krcek | It does take up quite a bit of resources... | 13:09 |
| bbezak | commit message says it goes both ways | 13:09 |
| bbezak | For example Docker to Podman and vice versa. | 13:09 |
| frickler | yes, likely make all of these jobs experimental | 13:09 |
| frickler | afaict from a quick look the job only do d->p, too, but I'd think that's fine? | 13:10 |
| r-krcek | Yeah, the CI only does d->p as of now | 13:10 |
| bbezak | yes. jobs as well. but whole flow in the docs could be marked as such imho. as probably it is not heavily tested (maybe) | 13:11 |
| frickler | since the migration is an optional feature, maybe we could do with some less thorough reviews | 13:12 |
| frickler | and then have the option for people to do some field testing? ;) | 13:12 |
| bbezak | ok. but let's flag that in the docs :) | 13:12 |
| frickler | ack | 13:13 |
| frickler | I'll try to review this way until next week | 13:13 |
| bbezak | makes sense. let's continue in gerrit then. thank you | 13:13 |
| bbezak | if somebody feels that some change NEEDS to be merged in Epoxy, let us know. we can flag it as +2 review priority. BTW we've got too much +1 RP :) | 13:14 |
| bbezak | I did review some of them and merged some as well | 13:15 |
| opendevreview | vahideh proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/2024.2: sysctl: Safely handle missing IPv6 when disabled in kernel https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/947474 | 13:15 |
| frickler | RP+1 for me currently means: can wait until 2025.2 | 13:15 |
| bbezak | yeah | 13:15 |
| frickler | oh my, ipv6 disabled again. cant we just agree that such a deployment is broken? :( | 13:16 |
| bbezak | :) | 13:17 |
| frickler | people can amend for that downstream if they really think they need to, can't they? | 13:18 |
| bbezak | somehow this is still a problem in 2025 | 13:18 |
| frickler | https://bugs.launchpad.net/kolla-ansible/+bug/2071443 was created by will fwiw | 13:18 |
| bbezak | yeah, people sometimes doing that because of other bad software | 13:19 |
| bbezak | (disabling ipv6) | 13:20 |
| bbezak | #topic Additional agenda (from whiteboard) | 13:20 |
| bbezak | r-krcek: added 3 changes | 13:21 |
| bbezak | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/KollaWhiteBoard#L75 | 13:21 |
| bbezak | I'd say it will be for 2025.2 | 13:23 |
| frickler | r-krcek: is anything there important for 2025.1? | 13:23 |
| bbezak | I don't have cycles to look into that. unless others feels otherwise | 13:23 |
| r-krcek | fickler: 946227 I think would be good to add, but rest are just minor features. Sorry if I am being too impatient. | 13:24 |
| opendevreview | vahideh proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/2024.2: sysctl: Safely handle missing IPv6 when disabled in kernel https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/947475 | 13:25 |
| bbezak | it's fine r-krcek review velocity is not good, cause of small amount of reviewers ;) | 13:26 |
| bbezak | I've flagged that one as RP2 | 13:26 |
| bbezak | #topic Open discussion | 13:27 |
| r-krcek | How can I officially sign up for this one? :) https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/kolla-flamingo-ptg#L157 | 13:28 |
| bbezak | it is officially done | 13:29 |
| msalari | Got it right? So, in the future, does the Kolla Ansible team plan to use Podman instead of Docker (And currently you're adding it as an optional feature)? If that's the case, when will the actual replacement happen? | 13:29 |
| bbezak | :) | 13:29 |
| frickler | r-krcek: I think this might need a bit more discussion about the actual scope | 13:30 |
| bbezak | true | 13:30 |
| frickler | msalari: afaict the plan for now is to support both in parallel for the foreseeable future | 13:30 |
| r-krcek | I was looking in it and I was thinking the same | 13:30 |
| frickler | r-krcek: so maybe wait until we do our after-ptg 2025.2 planning session | 13:31 |
| frickler | which we will schedule once 2025.1 is branched and mnasiadka has some time again | 13:31 |
| r-krcek | So should I look out in the mailing list for the date/time | 13:32 |
| bbezak | that is a good idea. we will grab then ideas from PTG and create plan for 2025.2 | 13:32 |
| frickler | r-krcek: it should also be announced during one of the next IRC meetings, so watch this space ;) | 13:33 |
| bbezak | yes r-krcek | 13:33 |
| r-krcek | Thank you :) | 13:33 |
| msalari | At our company, we're looking into bringing back the Swift role and supporting it in Kolla Ansible. Now that it's been fully removed, do you think that's feasible? And what would be the first step? | 13:33 |
| bbezak | mnasiadka: will be next week I think. so it can also be discussed on next IRC meeting | 13:34 |
| frickler | msalari: as mnasiadka answered on the review, we do not consider that feasible | 13:34 |
| bbezak | msalari | 13:35 |
| bbezak | sorry :). misclick | 13:35 |
| bbezak | I don't have context frickler | 13:35 |
| frickler | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/945791/comments/5c662ef7_d396b2ad | 13:35 |
| bbezak | ok | 13:36 |
| amir58118 | frickler: thanks for reviewing that patch. | 13:37 |
| bbezak | I think we're settled on Swift discussion | 13:37 |
| msalari | ok | 13:39 |
| bbezak | ok. we're in 2025.1 release focus now. we're close, but not there yet | 13:40 |
| bbezak | thank you for joining | 13:40 |
| bbezak | #endmeeting | 13:40 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting ended Wed Apr 16 13:40:14 2025 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:40 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/kolla/2025/kolla.2025-04-16-13.00.html | 13:40 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes (text): https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/kolla/2025/kolla.2025-04-16-13.00.txt | 13:40 |
| opendevmeet | Log: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/kolla/2025/kolla.2025-04-16-13.00.log.html | 13:40 |
| frickler | thx for chairing bbezak | 13:40 |
| opendevreview | Bartosz Bezak proposed openstack/kolla stable/2024.2: nova/aarch64: Fix qemu-efi build failures https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/947497 | 13:45 |
| opendevreview | vahideh proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: sysctl: Safely handle missing IPv6 when disabled in kernel https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/947498 | 13:50 |
| frickler | regarding the IPv6 stuff, looks like https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/905831 was incomplete as a fix? seems r-krcek already left. I'm really tempted to propose to revert this change instead | 14:10 |
| opendevreview | Jack Hodgkiss proposed openstack/kolla master: Update prometheus alertmanager to newest available version https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/947239 | 14:24 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible stable/2024.2: Support mounting host's /dev/shm into container https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/945806 | 14:30 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible stable/2024.2: Set lock_path for openstack services https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/945807 | 14:30 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible stable/2024.2: Add oslo.messaging Queue Manager https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/945808 | 14:30 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible stable/2024.2: Rabbitmq: enable quorum for transient queues https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/945809 | 14:30 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible stable/2024.2: rabbitmq: Add support for using stream queues for fanout https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/946993 | 14:30 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible stable/2024.2: Upgrade RabbitMQ docs for the Dalmatian release https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/947097 | 14:30 |
| opendevreview | Antony Messerli proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Enables override of Octavia notification topics https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/934827 | 14:31 |
| opendevreview | Jack Hodgkiss proposed openstack/kolla master: Update prometheus alertmanager to newest available version https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/947239 | 15:12 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Replace ipaddr with ansible.utils.ipaddr https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/937233 | 16:25 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible stable/2024.1: Support mounting host's /dev/shm into container https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/945810 | 16:25 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible stable/2024.1: Set lock_path for openstack services https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/945811 | 16:33 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible stable/2024.1: Add oslo.messaging Queue Manager https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/945812 | 16:33 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible stable/2024.1: Rabbitmq: enable quorum for transient queues https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/945813 | 16:33 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible stable/2024.1: rabbitmq: Add support for using stream queues for fanout https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/946994 | 16:35 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible stable/2024.1: Upgrade RabbitMQ docs for the Caracal release https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/947096 | 16:37 |
| opendevreview | Piotr Parczewski proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Upgrade Prometheus to v3 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/945611 | 17:14 |
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