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| opendevreview | Michal Arbet proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Replace OVN metadata agent with OVN agent extension https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/997744 | 06:53 |
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| kevko | morning | 07:52 |
| blanson[m] | good morning | 07:57 |
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| kevko | blanson[m]: maybe you can check/add second +2 for https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/996216 and https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/996656 and https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/996630 and +w ? | 09:30 |
| blanson[m] | I will check this | 09:31 |
| opendevreview | Michal Arbet proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: [DNM] Revert "CI: Test ovn without vpnaas" https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/996635 | 09:31 |
| kevko | blanson[m]: cool, thanks | 09:31 |
| kevko | blanson[m]: I have more of them, but I’m rolling questions to review out gradually :) :D | 09:32 |
| opendevreview | Verification of a change to openstack/ansible-collection-kolla master failed: packages: Use kernel-modules-extra-matched https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ansible-collection-kolla/+/1000309 | 09:41 |
| opendevreview | Pierre Riteau proposed openstack/kayobe master: dell-switch: Fix invocation of dellemc.os* modules https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/972660 | 10:20 |
| opendevreview | Owen Jones proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: fix: Delegate fernet key distribution to correct host https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/1000319 | 10:21 |
| opendevreview | Alex Welsh proposed openstack/kolla master: Ensure openvswitch-base children get ovs repo https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla/+/1000710 | 11:24 |
| opendevreview | Michal Arbet proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Don't log container health checks in HAProxy https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/985116 | 11:29 |
| opendevreview | Michal Arbet proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Improve haproxy stats endpoint configuration https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/1000421 | 11:29 |
| opendevreview | Pierre Riteau proposed openstack/kayobe master: CI: Pin ansible-lint below 26.8.0 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/1000711 | 11:29 |
| thinkl33t | mnasiadka: fantastic thank you | 12:21 |
| mnasiadka | thinkl33t: was there some docs fragment that misguided you? You (or we) can update that to not misguide others | 12:27 |
| kevko | bbezak: thanks | 12:36 |
| bbezak | np | 12:37 |
| opendevreview | Wojciech Szczepanik proposed openstack/kayobe master: Fix podman support https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/1000714 | 12:38 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/ansible-collection-kolla master: packages: Use kernel-modules-extra-matched https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ansible-collection-kolla/+/1000309 | 12:42 |
| thinkl33t | mnasiadka: https://docs.openstack.org/kolla-ansible/2026.1/user/support-matrix.html | 12:50 |
| thinkl33t | Was what i was going by | 12:50 |
| mnasiadka | bbezak frickler kevko mmalchuk gkoper jovial mattcrees dougszu darmach pabloclsn ravlew salmankh amir58118 r-krcek blanson[m] fprzewozn - meeting in 9 minutes | 12:51 |
| mnasiadka | thinkl33t: do you want to push a patch to update it? | 12:51 |
| opendevreview | Pierre Riteau proposed openstack/ansible-collection-kolla stable/2026.1: packages: Use kernel-modules-extra-matched https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ansible-collection-kolla/+/1000718 | 12:53 |
| opendevreview | Pierre Riteau proposed openstack/ansible-collection-kolla stable/2025.1: packages: Use kernel-modules-extra-matched https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ansible-collection-kolla/+/1000719 | 12:56 |
| opendevreview | Pierre Riteau proposed openstack/ansible-collection-kolla stable/2025.1: packages: Use kernel-modules-extra-matched https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ansible-collection-kolla/+/1000719 | 12:57 |
| opendevreview | Pierre Riteau proposed openstack/ansible-collection-kolla stable/2025.1: packages: Use kernel-modules-extra-matched https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ansible-collection-kolla/+/1000719 | 13:01 |
| mnasiadka | #startmeeting kolla | 13:02 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting started Wed Aug 12 13:02:08 2026 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mnasiadka. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:02 |
| opendevmeet | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:02 |
| opendevmeet | The meeting name has been set to 'kolla' | 13:02 |
| mnasiadka | #topic roll call | 13:02 |
| mnasiadka | o/ | 13:02 |
| bbezak | po/ | 13:02 |
| KurtB | o/ | 13:03 |
| butjar[mit] | o/ | 13:05 |
| kkaptanoglu | o/ | 13:06 |
| mnasiadka | #topic agenda | 13:06 |
| mnasiadka | * CI status | 13:06 |
| mnasiadka | * Release tasks | 13:06 |
| opendevreview | Verification of a change to openstack/kayobe master failed: CI: Use kernel-modules-extra-matched package https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/1000303 | 13:07 |
| mnasiadka | * Current cycle planning | 13:08 |
| mnasiadka | * Additional agenda (from whiteboard) | 13:08 |
| mnasiadka | * Open discussion | 13:08 |
| mnasiadka | #topic CI status | 13:08 |
| mnasiadka | Overall looks good | 13:08 |
| mnasiadka | #topic Release tasks | 13:08 |
| mnasiadka | R-7 week | 13:09 |
| mnasiadka | We have R-8 switch images to current release | 13:09 |
| mnasiadka | But I’d say that’s surely done long time ago | 13:09 |
| mnasiadka | #link https://docs.openstack.org/kolla/latest/contributor/release-management.html#r-8-switch-images-to-current-release | 13:09 |
| mnasiadka | [kolla] Switch Ubuntu images to use the current in-development release Ubuntu Cloud Archive (UCA) repository | 13:10 |
| blanson[m] | hello | 13:11 |
| AlmaMC[m] | o/ | 13:11 |
| mnasiadka | OPENSTACK_RELEASE_CODENAME = 'Gazpacho' | 13:11 |
| mnasiadka | So probably we should bump that, wondering if Debian OpenStack Hibiscus is there already | 13:11 |
| bbezak | https://osbpo.debian.net/deb-status/ | 13:12 |
| mnasiadka | Nope | 13:12 |
| mnasiadka | Since we now use that var both in UCA and Debian - I don’t think it makes sense to switch it now | 13:12 |
| mnasiadka | Probably it makes sense to move that in our checklist closer to R+0 | 13:13 |
| blanson[m] | I could ask zigo for when it's usually available | 13:14 |
| blanson[m] | so we move it close to this point | 13:14 |
| zigo | How may I release Hibiscus when there was no artifact upstream yet ? | 13:15 |
| zigo | Or are you asking me that I just open a new repo? | 13:15 |
| mnasiadka | No sense to ask, it’s just our checklist is a bit desynched from reality | 13:16 |
| mnasiadka | Although UCA only has Hibiscus for Resolute | 13:16 |
| mnasiadka | And that might be a problem we have not anticipated | 13:17 |
| opendevreview | Wojciech Szczepanik proposed openstack/kayobe master: Fix podman support https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/1000714 | 13:17 |
| zigo | Because of this: https://releases.openstack.org/hibiscus/schedule.html | 13:17 |
| zigo | I'd normally start working on packaging Hibiscus on the 21st of August. | 13:17 |
| zigo | So at that date, I'll have opened the repo and all. | 13:17 |
| zigo | If you need it earlier, even if it has nothing new there, I can do that. | 13:17 |
| mnasiadka | So we should move it from R-8 to R-4 | 13:18 |
| mnasiadka | Anybody wants to update the Kolla release docs? | 13:19 |
| blanson[m] | yep I can do that should be quick enough | 13:19 |
| mnasiadka | thanks | 13:20 |
| mnasiadka | I’ll try to find out about UCA, I wouldn’t like to add Resolute support this cycle | 13:20 |
| mnasiadka | #topic Current cycle planning | 13:22 |
| mnasiadka | Any features to discuss? | 13:22 |
| mnasiadka | Seems not | 13:24 |
| mnasiadka | Nothing on the whiteboard | 13:24 |
| mnasiadka | #topic Open discussion | 13:24 |
| blanson[m] | I still have the keystone patch for encryption I 'll try to address the last bits this week so it can be in Hibiscus hopefully | 13:25 |
| mnasiadka | Ok, great | 13:25 |
| kkaptanoglu | we hit some issues with the direct upgrade from 2025.1 to 2026.1. I'd appreciate it if someone could take a look at these related patches when possible: | 13:25 |
| kkaptanoglu | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/1000300 | 13:25 |
| kkaptanoglu | https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/998499 | 13:25 |
| AlmaMC[m] | I will look at those | 13:27 |
| kkaptanoglu | thanks | 13:28 |
| mnasiadka | kkaptanoglu: external opensearch is not something we test, so probably that’s why the bugs are there | 13:29 |
| kkaptanoglu | yes, it is possible that support for a previously supported variable has been discontinued. | 13:29 |
| zigo | Question: is Kolla Ansible going to address https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OSSN/OSSN-0106 ? Or does it already has ramdisk API limitations ? | 13:30 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible master: fix: Delegate fernet key distribution to correct host https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/1000319 | 13:30 |
| opendevreview | Owen Jones proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/2026.1: fix: Delegate fernet key distribution to correct host https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/1000725 | 13:31 |
| opendevreview | Owen Jones proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/2025.2: fix: Delegate fernet key distribution to correct host https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/1000726 | 13:32 |
| mnasiadka | zigo: I don’t think we do, if there’s somebody that wants to work on it - that it would be nice to have, given that Ironic part of the change has landed | 13:32 |
| opendevreview | Owen Jones proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/2025.1: fix: Delegate fernet key distribution to correct host https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/1000727 | 13:32 |
| zigo | mnasiadka: IMO, the Ironic part is kind of useless, it only allows one to disable the ramdisk API, though what one really wants, is restrict the access in haproxy. | 13:33 |
| zigo | (based on the DHCP address range only) | 13:33 |
| mnasiadka | Maybe, I haven’t had time to look into this, but it would be nice if we implemented that. | 13:33 |
| mnasiadka | Ok, are there any other topics? | 13:34 |
| kkaptanoglu | I think it's better for sustainability if Kolla stays as lean and OpenStack-native as possible. Otherwise, managing components like OpenSearch with Kolla just becomes a real headache.What is your opinion? | 13:35 |
| mnasiadka | kkaptanoglu: what do you mean by that? | 13:35 |
| mnasiadka | Should we drop all non-openstack components deployment? | 13:35 |
| mnasiadka | Opensearch/prometheus/mariadb/redis/and so on? | 13:35 |
| mnasiadka | Well, valkey, not redis, but you get the point | 13:36 |
| kkaptanoglu | For example, Kolla previously supported external OpenSearch, but this became an issue in version 2026.1. Instead, supporting OpenStack Core components seems more sensible. | 13:37 |
| blanson[m] | kkaptanoglu: I get the argument and I somewhat agree to it to a degree but that's puts so much more complexity on the operator part ? Allowing external integration for non OpenStack services is probbly a good thing that should stay is people want to disable some of the deployments we offer, and plug their own thing | 13:39 |
| blanson[m] | but you can't expect anyone to just come up if the entire underlying infra on their own | 13:39 |
| mnasiadka | Well, the external opensearch and database integration points in Kolla-Ansible are not tested and never have been tested | 13:40 |
| blanson[m] | yh and I'm not sure they should be | 13:40 |
| mnasiadka | Either you accept this and contribute to make it better when we break it - or just don’t use the integration points and maintain the config override for each service on your own | 13:40 |
| blanson[m] | the option should be here and refined by the people that actually use it | 13:40 |
| mnasiadka | I’m happy to drop the external integration points | 13:40 |
| zigo | I very much agree with what blanson is saying. | 13:41 |
| mnasiadka | But we should discuss that on the PTG rather than here, we might have a bigger audience | 13:41 |
| blanson[m] | true, or even better, the operator feedback thingy ? | 13:41 |
| mnasiadka | Yes | 13:41 |
| kkaptanoglu | this was an idea for sustainability. Perhaps it's more difficult to make this change now. | 13:41 |
| mnasiadka | With the amount of people doing maintenance of this project, I’m still amazed we’re able to produce a working release. | 13:42 |
| kkaptanoglu | you deserve congratulations on this matter | 13:43 |
| blanson[m] | kkaptanoglu: I'll take a look at your opensearch patch, but if you want it stable long term, you probbly want to maintain it a little :)) | 13:43 |
| blanson[m] | rather than entrusting us with it | 13:43 |
| kkaptanoglu | as a team, we are ready to do our part. | 13:43 |
| bbezak | Good point for discussion indeed. And also As usual more contributors/maintainers are needed | 13:44 |
| mnasiadka | Great to at least have some consensus ;) | 13:44 |
| mnasiadka | Anybody anything else? If not, I’ll close the meeting in 2-3 minutes | 13:45 |
| KurtB | Just my observations: I depended on OpenSearch and Prometheus for initial troubleshooting as an operator. I'd keep a minimal installation, with a doc pointing to user-supported "your mileage may vary" docs regarding hooks to user-maintained external DBs. | 13:46 |
| mnasiadka | I guess makes sense to document that we don’t test these external integration points and it may or may not be broken | 13:47 |
| mnasiadka | Ok, thank you all for coming | 13:47 |
| mnasiadka | #endmeeting | 13:47 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting ended Wed Aug 12 13:47:25 2026 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:47 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/kolla/2026/kolla.2026-08-12-13.02.html | 13:47 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes (text): https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/kolla/2026/kolla.2026-08-12-13.02.txt | 13:47 |
| opendevmeet | Log: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/kolla/2026/kolla.2026-08-12-13.02.log.html | 13:47 |
| KurtB | Dropping OpenSearch and Prometheus on the controllers took up a _lot_ of resource. So, an end user maintained install will/should happen, IMHO. | 13:47 |
| KurtB | s/Dropping/Installing | 13:48 |
| opendevreview | Jed Preist proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: Test virtual media boot in CI https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/1000730 | 13:56 |
| opendevreview | Jed Preist proposed openstack/kolla-ansible master: CI: Test virtual media boot https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/1000730 | 13:58 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Refactor Neutron config file loading https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/996216 | 14:06 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Fix FWaaS while using OVN https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/996656 | 14:06 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/kolla-ansible master: Remove sysctl override from OVN VPN agent https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/996630 | 14:06 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/ansible-collection-kolla stable/2025.2: packages: Install kernel-modules-extra on RedHat family https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ansible-collection-kolla/+/999228 | 14:12 |
| opendevreview | Pierre Riteau proposed openstack/ansible-collection-kolla stable/2025.2: packages: Use kernel-modules-extra-matched https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/ansible-collection-kolla/+/1000737 | 14:31 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/kayobe master: CI: Pin ansible-lint below 26.8.0 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/1000711 | 15:11 |
| opendevreview | Maksim Malchuk proposed openstack/kayobe stable/2026.1: CI: Pin ansible-lint below 26.8.0 https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/1000742 | 15:13 |
| opendevreview | Maksim Malchuk proposed openstack/kayobe stable/2026.1: Fix Bifrost extra_kernel_params validation https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/999967 | 15:15 |
| skered | Should ansible/roles/hacluster bootstrap.yml have become:? It seems like I'm getting permission issues with created and alt. those. I think it will fail again with files | 18:10 |
| skered | Or maybe is kolla-ansible expecting /etc/kolla/config be user writable? | 18:16 |
| skered | I see other roles/tasks that are using node_custom_config and become'ing. So maybe. | 18:21 |
| opendevreview | Verification of a change to openstack/kayobe master failed: CI: Use kernel-modules-extra-matched package https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kayobe/+/1000303 | 19:22 |
| opendevreview | Owen Jones proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/2025.1: fix: Delegate fernet key distribution to correct host https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/1000727 | 19:52 |
| opendevreview | Owen Jones proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/2025.2: fix: Delegate fernet key distribution to correct host https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/1000726 | 19:53 |
| opendevreview | Owen Jones proposed openstack/kolla-ansible stable/2026.1: fix: Delegate fernet key distribution to correct host https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/kolla-ansible/+/1000725 | 19:54 |
| mikal | The CI status section of the meeting really should have discussed https://bugs.launchpad.net/kolla/+bug/2162860 | 20:02 |
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