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| openstackgerrit | Carlos Garza proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas: Forcing cert_parser.dump_private_key to use PKCS8 https://review.openstack.org/203385 | 05:34 |
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| johnsom | FYI: Some Oslo changes coming this week: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-July/070018.html | 16:09 |
| johnsom | I think we have done most of this already, but just in case... | 16:09 |
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| johnsom | dougwig Any info on the Radware gate? It seems to be failing on everything... | 17:38 |
| johnsom | Including holding up this merge: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/199781/ | 17:38 |
| johnsom | And this merge: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/191217/ | 17:40 |
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| rm_work | johnsom: hmm https://os-ci-logs.radware.com/191217_14_2015-07-18_09-01-09/lbaas_v2_tempest_tests.log | 18:00 |
| rm_work | that's ... evgeny? | 18:00 |
| rm_work | or is he mirantis | 18:01 |
| johnsom | rm_work yeah, it seems to be failing at different points | 18:01 |
| rm_work | ah | 18:01 |
| rm_work | the other failure i see is a connection issue | 18:02 |
| rm_work | 2015-07-18 04:24:23.578 | Connecting to download.cirros-cloud.net (download.cirros-cloud.net)|69.163.241.114|:80... failed: No route to host. | 18:02 |
| johnsom | Beyond the two merges that are failing on Radware gate, most all of the recent patchsets are failing on the Radware gate too. | 18:03 |
| dougwig | third party CI can't block merges. | 18:11 |
| dougwig | but let me check, we can disable if it's permafail. | 18:11 |
| johnsom | Hmm, any other ideas what is up with those two merges? | 18:12 |
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| TrevorV | Hey xgerman johnsom: blogan and I were just discussing something concerning health manager and house keeping | 18:24 |
| TrevorV | Do you guys have a second to discuss? | 18:24 |
| johnsom | We are about to join a conf call. Is it a quick discussion? | 18:25 |
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| TrevorV | Potentially, but also could take a bit | 18:26 |
| TrevorV | We can wait | 18:26 |
| TrevorV | Ping when you' | 18:26 |
| TrevorV | you' | 18:26 |
| TrevorV | damnit | 18:26 |
| johnsom | Unfortunately it's a call we both actually have to pay attention on.... | 18:26 |
| TrevorV | you're available. | 18:26 |
| johnsom | Ok, cool | 18:26 |
| TrevorV | Take your time, no hurry | 18:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Trevor Vardeman proposed openstack/octavia: Adding amphora failover flows https://review.openstack.org/202336 | 18:58 |
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| johnsom | TrevorV Would in an hour work for you? | 20:05 |
| johnsom | If that is too late, we can setup some time tomorrow. | 20:05 |
| johnsom | After the meet up German and I have a bunch of internal meetings eating at our time | 20:06 |
| blogan | johnsom: I think in an hour will be fine, if not tomorrow ill be fine too | 20:08 |
| johnsom | Ok, in an hour it is | 20:08 |
| blogan | johnsom: ill be here so if TrevorV isn't ill be able to bring up his concerns | 20:08 |
| johnsom | Ok, cool | 20:08 |
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| xgerman | cool. We will have the call with Franklin and then I can pay attention… | 20:25 |
| TrevorV | Yeah, sorry was catching up with a colleague here at work. I'll be around in .5 hours | 20:27 |
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| TrevorV | Ready when yous guys are. | 20:58 |
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| johnsom | I am here | 21:01 |
| TrevorV | blogan | 21:02 |
| xgerman | so am I | 21:02 |
| blogan | here | 21:02 |
| TrevorV | Alright | 21:02 |
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| TrevorV | So we discussed earlier today options for how the house-keeper and the health manager will run. In this case, we have a few options | 21:03 |
| TrevorV | One, separate agents for all the different roles | 21:03 |
| TrevorV | One agent for the spares management, one agent for the interception of heartbeats and updating the table, and then one agent for interpreting the table and starting the failover actions | 21:03 |
| TrevorV | The second is 2 agents, one for the spare pool management, and 1 agent with 2 processes for the other 2 things under the health manager | 21:04 |
| TrevorV | spare amphora management*** | 21:04 |
| TrevorV | I personally don't hate the idea of either, so anyone have strong feelings about one of those solutions? Anyone have an alternative? | 21:05 |
| johnsom | Option two is how I originally spec'd it out. (not voting yet, just clarifying) | 21:05 |
| TrevorV | Right | 21:05 |
| blogan | can we define the roles? | 21:05 |
| johnsom | Third option would be to make one process that forks them all | 21:05 |
| TrevorV | All under "health management" and there is only a class name for the housekeeping? | 21:06 |
| johnsom | I lean against option one, just because it causes screen sprawl in devstack and we already have four. | 21:06 |
| TrevorV | Well we're discussing the other 2 right now, are we not? Meaning we'd have 5 total. And by "lean against" you mean "not in favor of" correct? | 21:07 |
| johnsom | Yeah, option three would be all under one component, but multiple classes/threads/procs | 21:07 |
| johnsom | Yes, slightly not in favor | 21:07 |
| blogan | johnsom: yeah im concerned about that as well | 21:07 |
| xgerman | yeah, I like to keep screen sprawl under control as well | 21:07 |
| blogan | o-everything | 21:07 |
| johnsom | o-kitchensink | 21:08 |
| xgerman | with parameter like -health-montior-only | 21:08 |
| xgerman | in case we want to scale | 21:08 |
| TrevorV | Okay, so option 3 seems to be consensus here. 'o-api', 'o-cw', and 'o-hm', which either spawns procs or threads for each individual component | 21:08 |
| johnsom | What were your thoughts on our current design? Is there a downside? | 21:08 |
| blogan | wait whats option 3? | 21:08 |
| blogan | no housekeeping agent? | 21:09 |
| blogan | or that falls under hm? | 21:09 |
| johnsom | Personally I don't think I have given a vote. Just discussing at the moment | 21:09 |
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| xgerman | yeah, hm is sort of critical (especially if stats/billing flow through it) so I rather have it not commingled with housekeeping | 21:09 |
| johnsom | I guess I have an implicit vote in option two as that was what I put in the spec, but could be persuaded towards other options | 21:10 |
| blogan | only problem i have with spare pool management role being in the same agent as the others is it probably doens't needt o scale out, at least not enough as heartbeat listener and failover actions | 21:11 |
| xgerman | +1 | 21:11 |
| blogan | and to scale out i'd hope it'd be as simple as just running another agent | 21:11 |
| johnsom | +1 | 21:11 |
| blogan | option 2 is having the housekeeping roles as another agent | 21:11 |
| blogan | ? | 21:12 |
| blogan | so o-hk roles would be spare pool managing, and clean up of resources? | 21:12 |
| johnsom | I expect the number of housekeeping tasks to grow as well. Likely none as critical as the health tasks. Example would be cert renewal/management | 21:12 |
| blogan | and o-hm would be health checking and failover actions? | 21:12 |
| blogan | johnsom: good point | 21:13 |
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| blogan | so yeah o-hk agent and o-hm agent, where o-hk doesn't need tow orry abotu scaling right now | 21:14 |
| blogan | tahts my vote at least | 21:14 |
| johnsom | blogan +1 | 21:14 |
| xgerman | yep, and o-hk becomes the kitchen sink | 21:14 |
| xgerman | blogan +1 | 21:14 |
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| TrevorV | I can't say I agree with that last kitchen sink bit, but sure. | 21:14 |
| blogan | then again it would be awesome to take over devstack's screen with octavia agents and thus take over openstack | 21:14 |
| * TrevorV kicks blogan | 21:14 | |
| * johnsom Hmmmmm WORLD DOMINATION | 21:15 | |
| TrevorV | Serious though, I agree with that. The only change then is right now the health manager has the cleanup code in it. Per my suggestion to min I believe. | 21:15 |
| TrevorV | Meaning the cleanup of old amps or whatnot. | 21:15 |
| blogan | well cleaning the kitchen sink is part of house keeping | 21:15 |
| TrevorV | Right | 21:15 |
| xgerman | +1 | 21:15 |
| TrevorV | I'm saying I told her something erroneous | 21:15 |
| johnsom | Yeah, I looked at the current state of health manager. We need to make some changes there | 21:15 |
| xgerman | no worries, we can set her straight | 21:15 |
| TrevorV | +1 johnsom | 21:16 |
| TrevorV | If I'm needed to help with that outside of reviews let me know | 21:16 |
| johnsom | Let me work with Min on what we have decided and what is there. I will also sync with Bharath on housekeeping. | 21:16 |
| TrevorV | Well then looks like original design informations were accurate as described, good one johnsom :P | 21:17 |
| xgerman | yeah, changing docs is a pain :-) | 21:17 |
| johnsom | Thanks, but it was a team effort. | 21:17 |
| blogan | so the cmd/healthmanager.py should be responsible for the process spawning | 21:17 |
| johnsom | Yes | 21:18 |
| xgerman | +1 | 21:18 |
| xgerman | and for good measure we can make it spun configurable processes | 21:18 |
| johnsom | Just for fun? | 21:19 |
| xgerman | yep :-) | 21:19 |
| blogan | and then take over openstack? | 21:20 |
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| xgerman | you want to stop there | 21:20 |
| xgerman | I was thinking docker, Linux, | 21:20 |
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| blogan | pinky and the brain | 21:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sherif Abdelwahab proposed openstack/octavia: Blueprint: Active-Passive Amphora Setup using VRRP https://review.openstack.org/203848 | 22:49 |
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| openstackgerrit | Carlos Garza proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas: Forcing cert_parser.dump_private_key to use PKCS8 https://review.openstack.org/203385 | 23:47 |
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| bana_k | After launching the amphora, if controller is not able to ssh to it(after all the trials) is there any way for user to know it other than checking the log files? | 23:55 |
| johnsom | Eventually the load balancer would go into error state | 23:57 |
| johnsom | By eventually, I mean, we haven't implemented all of that yet | 23:57 |
| bana_k | ok | 23:58 |
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