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| kong | hi, guys, my colleague asked me a question about how to patch amphora vm (e.g. to keep it up to date), and I gave him an answer according to my understanding about Octavia | 00:42 |
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| kong | i want to share with you, please comment what I said is right or wrong | 00:42 |
| kong | here: http://paste.openstack.org/show/492687/ | 00:42 |
| johnsom | kong You cannont delete the vm. There is an open bug and debate about that. | 00:43 |
| johnsom | What we recommend is to neutron down the management port on the amphora vm | 00:44 |
| johnsom | kong Feel free to comment on this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/octavia/+bug/1509706 | 00:45 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1509706 in octavia "Failover fails when instance is deleted" [Medium,New] | 00:45 |
| johnsom | Otherwise, yes, that is the update procedure | 00:45 |
| kong | johnsom: ok, will check that. | 00:47 |
| kong | johnsom: no consensus for now? | 00:47 |
| johnsom | Well, we agreed that it is a valid bug at the mid-cycle, but I think there are still folks that feel failover from a nova delete is not a valid use case. | 00:48 |
| kong | johnsom: hmm, i understand that. we should avoid people from doing that | 00:49 |
| johnsom | Well, personally I feel it is a valid use case as nova has done strange things in failure situations in my experience. | 00:49 |
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| johnsom | The reality of it is making a delete instance failover is a bunch of work, so it will come down to does someone care enough to fix the code. | 00:50 |
| kong | johnsom: btw, are we going to implement active-active mode in Newton? | 00:51 |
| johnsom | It's not clear. No code has been committed yet and the spec has not been approved yet. | 00:51 |
| kong | ok, seems that i should keep an eye on bps/bugs :-) | 00:52 |
| johnsom | Yep | 00:53 |
| kong | johnsom: thanks | 00:53 |
| johnsom | kong please review the act/act spec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/234639/ | 00:54 |
| kong | yeah, sure, I promise I will. | 00:54 |
| johnsom | The more eyes the better | 00:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michael Johnson proposed openstack/octavia: Run amphora haproxy in a network namespace https://review.openstack.org/300292 | 03:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Bharath M proposed openstack/octavia: Run amphora haproxy in a network namespace https://review.openstack.org/300292 | 06:10 |
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| rm_work | johnsom_: FWIW we're working on a solution to the updating problem, which happens to fall out of our "avoid using DIB" task -- if we use ansible for deploying the amp on top of a base image, we can use the same ansible templates to keep amps up to date if we want -- kind of a tradeoff between the cattle/pets thing, because ideally they're cattle but at scale it'd be nice to not have to shoot a whole herd for a tiny security update | 10:54 |
| rm_work | when we can push it quickly, and still shoot them if anything goes wrong in that process | 10:54 |
| rm_work | I'll have more details on that soon, and can talk to it at the summit for sure | 10:55 |
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| rm_work | we like building the amp using ansible from a base image much better than trying to bake an image and deploy that way due to a number of reasons, though for us one of the biggest ones is actually being able to cache the image on our hypervisors (the base images are cached, but we don't really have control over allowing our cells to cache extra stuff) | 10:56 |
| rm_work | also internally the process to get new images available in all environments is kind of a pain. among other things... | 10:56 |
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| xgerman | rm_work we decided on our end to go without ssh access and really treat them as devices - DIB fits better in our little world and toolchain. | 14:52 |
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| johnsom_ | Yep, we considered an ansible like model, but prefer the speed and reliability of a baked image | 15:31 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michael Johnson proposed openstack/octavia: Run amphora haproxy in a network namespace https://review.openstack.org/300292 | 20:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | min wang proposed openstack/octavia: Add missing unit test for cascade lb delete https://review.openstack.org/300689 | 22:52 |
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| openstackgerrit | min wang proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas: Add the database v1 to v2 migration script in tools https://review.openstack.org/289595 | 23:04 |
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