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| openstackgerrit | Doug Wiegley proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas: Bump to neutron-lib 0.1.0 https://review.openstack.org/285439 | 00:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Doug Wiegley proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas: Switch to using hacking checks from neutron-lib https://review.openstack.org/285439 | 01:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Doug Wiegley proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas: Switch to using hacking checks from neutron-lib https://review.openstack.org/285439 | 01:50 |
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| kong | review request: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/305551/, I have a script will be depend on that, please challenge me or comment it :-) | 02:08 |
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| openstackgerrit | Franklin Naval proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas: WIP: Neutron-LBaaS: Protocol tests https://review.openstack.org/308718 | 02:40 |
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| blogan | dougwig, johnsom: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/308384/ | 03:10 |
| blogan | need +2's on that, thogh i'm tempted to just merge it to fix the breakage | 03:10 |
| dougwig | blogan: looking | 03:11 |
| blogan | dougwig: thanks | 03:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron-lbaas: Fix test_quotas https://review.openstack.org/308384 | 03:47 |
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| kong | hi, guys, I want to add timestamps on octavia resources, does that make sense? | 04:09 |
| kong | for example, it will have created_at and updated_at on loadbalancer, so external monitoring script can check whether a loadbalancer is stuck in a temporary status for a long time, and do something based on that. | 04:11 |
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| kong | this will solve https://bugs.launchpad.net/octavia/+bug/1496646 to some extend, let monitoring script do that job | 04:12 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1496646 in octavia "db mismatch between neutron and octavia." [High,Confirmed] | 04:12 |
| kong | without the timestamp info, we can hardly handle that inconsistency | 04:14 |
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| blogan | kong: that needs to be added anyway for tracking uptime :) | 04:26 |
| blogan | kong: so it has added benefits | 04:26 |
| blogan | well updated_at doesn't help that but it is useful | 04:26 |
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| blogan | kong: i think another request was that we have a launched_at timestamp as well | 04:27 |
| kong | blogan: what's the meaning by 'launched_at'? | 04:27 |
| blogan | launched_at is when the POST request came in for the loadbalancer, created_at would be when that LB goes active | 04:28 |
| kong | blogan: If I do that, I will use oslo db module, it only has created_at and updated_at by default :-( | 04:29 |
| blogan | kong: oh boo | 04:29 |
| blogan | would created_at happen on API POST? | 04:29 |
| blogan | well for what you want it would | 04:29 |
| kong | blogan: yes | 04:30 |
| kong | created_at will be generated automatically when db resource is created | 04:30 |
| blogan | through sqlalchemy? or native db ON CREATE/ON UPDATE commands? | 04:31 |
| blogan | can't remember if mysql has ON CREATE | 04:31 |
| kong | blogan: I mean : https://github.com/openstack/oslo.db/blob/master/oslo_db/sqlalchemy/models.py#L135 | 04:32 |
| blogan | ah okay through sqlalchemy then, thats fine | 04:32 |
| blogan | kong: you may as well just import that module and create your own TimestampMixin that inherits from that but you also add launched_at :) | 04:33 |
| blogan | well i dont mean you have ot, if launched_at is wanted | 04:34 |
| kong | blogan, but in that case, created_at will not be the same with what you said | 04:34 |
| kong | 'created_at would be when that LB goes active' | 04:34 |
| blogan | kong: well that can just be updated as part of the update to active | 04:35 |
| blogan | kong: a very minor downside would be that created_at would be the same timestamp as launched_at until active | 04:35 |
| blogan | kong: then agian maybe we keep created_at as the API POST and make a new one called active_at | 04:36 |
| blogan | and forget the launched_at | 04:36 |
| kong | hmm, will be different with its meaning of other projects ... | 04:36 |
| kong | blogan: yes | 04:36 |
| kong | blogan: agree | 04:36 |
| blogan | kong: i thought nova used launched_at and created_at | 04:36 |
| blogan | if they do they're probably not using this timestamp, and forgive me for advocating doing something nova is doing :( | 04:37 |
| kong | blogan: nova may probably not use oslo db for that | 04:38 |
| kong | anyway, I'll make a preliminary patch for that, add created_at and updated_at at first, then add active_at if there is really a need | 04:38 |
| kong | it should be easy i think | 04:38 |
| blogan | kong: i'd do the active_at stuff, and discussions can happen on that | 04:38 |
| blogan | yeah it'll be easy to add active_at, just inherit from the oslo_db class and add your own | 04:39 |
| kong | blogan: ok, thanks, I will write the code | 04:40 |
| blogan | kong: cool thanks | 04:40 |
| kong | blogan: btw, could you please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/305551/ if you're available, it's easy, but my script needs it | 04:40 |
| blogan | ugh 9 lines of code | 04:41 |
| blogan | you're asking too much | 04:41 |
| kong | eys | 04:41 |
| blogan | i have a hard limit of 2 lines of code per review | 04:41 |
| kong | ... | 04:41 |
| kong | I just don't know if the change makes sense | 04:42 |
| blogan | im kidding | 04:42 |
| blogan | :) | 04:42 |
| kong | :-) | 04:42 |
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| blogan | seems ok, i'd like johnsom to definitely review it though | 04:44 |
| kong | blogan: thanks very much | 04:47 |
| kong | blogan: do I need submit a bp or spec for timestamp stuff? | 04:48 |
| kong | i think it's pretty staightforward | 04:48 |
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| kong | but I will do if it's octavia tradition :-) | 04:48 |
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| blogan | kong: yeah its straightforward | 04:50 |
| blogan | do a bug report at least | 04:50 |
| kong | blogan: fair enough | 04:51 |
| blogan | i like neutron's rfe process, don't think we have that process in octavia though | 04:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Victor Stinner proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas: Port test_db_loadbalancer to Python 3 https://review.openstack.org/308239 | 08:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Victor Stinner proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas: Finish to port unit tests to Python 3 https://review.openstack.org/308285 | 08:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Victor Stinner proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas: Port more service unit tests to Python 3 https://review.openstack.org/308221 | 08:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Victor Stinner proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas: Port more unit tests to Python 3 https://review.openstack.org/308204 | 08:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Victor Stinner proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas: Port even more service tests to Python 3 https://review.openstack.org/308234 | 08:08 |
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| mhayden | with lbaasv2 -- i should be able to create a pool without specifying a load balancer or listener to attach to, right? | 15:25 |
| mhayden | i'm hunting down a neutronclient issue | 15:25 |
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| TrevorV|Home | mhayden I don't think so... | 15:27 |
| mhayden | perhaps i'm reading some things wrong | 15:27 |
| mhayden | is it possible to make a single pool and attach it to more than one listener? | 15:27 |
| mhayden | for example, if i had listeners on 80 + 8080, could i configure the same pool for both of those listeners? | 15:27 |
| TrevorV|Home | Shared pools I *think* is a thing. | 15:28 |
| TrevorV|Home | I'm pretty sure that was merged | 15:28 |
| TrevorV|Home | Not sure if its enabled by default though, depends on the env | 15:28 |
| mhayden | okay, i'll go take a look | 15:28 |
| TrevorV|Home | Yeah, sorry I'm not more of a help :( | 15:28 |
| mhayden | that's okay | 15:28 |
| mhayden | are you thinking it's a configurable option? | 15:28 |
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| TrevorV|Home | I believe its a deployment option, yeah, like a specific extension | 15:32 |
| TrevorV|Home | I can double check its "availability" though, lemme see | 15:32 |
| johnsom | mhayden Pools must be tied to the load balancer and/or listener. | 15:32 |
| TrevorV|Home | johnsom he was asking about shared pools in v2 | 15:32 |
| johnsom | mhayden Pools can be shared between listeners, no config necessary | 15:33 |
| TrevorV|Home | We added it to nlbaas right johnsom ? Its not just in octavia right? | 15:33 |
| johnsom | It is in both, yes | 15:33 |
| TrevorV|Home | johnsom I meant it might not be available in the deployment, is shared pools by default in nlbaas now? | 15:33 |
| johnsom | Not 100% sure which drivers support it, other than Octavia however. | 15:34 |
| johnsom | Yes, by default | 15:34 |
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| johnsom | Mitaka | 15:34 |
| xgerman | shared pools is a thing but you need to define an LB instead of listener when creating them | 15:34 |
| TrevorV|Home | Oh, so the driver we're using in the deployment would affect it, alright that's what I was getting at (albeit poorly ha ha) | 15:34 |
| xgerman | LB driver would need to implement the extension of course :-) | 15:34 |
| TrevorV|Home | there you go mhayden :D | 15:35 |
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| mhayden | xgerman: ah, okay -- i was trying to read through the extension and see how it worked | 15:35 |
| mhayden | so 1) make a LB 2) make a pool attached to the LB 3) create a listener with default_pool_id of the pool created? | 15:35 |
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| johnsom | Yep | 15:36 |
| xgerman | yep, or you can create L7 stuff and attach pool and listener | 15:36 |
| mhayden | i keep forgetting about l7 | 15:36 |
| xgerman | I only know because I added it to my lab talk | 15:37 |
| mhayden | ah, is shared pools a mitaka feature? | 15:38 |
| johnsom | Yeah, Stephen will walk through it as part of the LBaaS talk as well | 15:38 |
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| * mhayden is signed up for that thing | 15:38 | |
| mhayden | AH -- it's not in liberty | 15:39 |
| * mhayden applies head to desk :) | 15:39 | |
| mhayden | that's why i keep having issues | 15:39 |
| johnsom | Ah yes, Mitaka feature | 15:39 |
| xgerman | yep, liberty won’t do that | 15:39 |
| mhayden | thanks, folks | 15:39 |
| mhayden | that helps | 15:39 |
| blogan | mhayden: icehouse may have it | 15:41 |
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| elarson | mhayden: I think L7 played funfunfun fest this last go around #pretendthatweredead #dadjokes2016 :troll3: | 15:42 |
| mhayden | blogan: I KNOW WHERE YOU SIT | 15:42 |
| blogan | mhayden: i moved! | 15:43 |
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| bogdan | Hi, I am trying LBaaS v2 with Octavia on Liberty, after lb creation it the loadbalancer-... port has status DOWN, no errors in the neutron or octavia logs, ip netns exec $NSP ping $LB-IP says "No rout to host", any idea what could be wrong and how to troubleshoot? | 16:11 |
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| a2hill | johnsom: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/303220/ | 16:15 |
| a2hill | when/if you get a chance, please | 16:15 |
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| fnaval_ | hi - should I not be able to have a HTTP listener with a HTTPS pool? | 17:04 |
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| TrevorV|Home | Hey johnsom, could I get your help with something? | 17:13 |
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| xgerman | if it’s a simple question I might know the answer as well :-) | 17:15 |
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| johnsom | fnaval_ I don't think we have HTTPS support on pools. | 17:18 |
| johnsom | TrevorV|Home What is up? | 17:18 |
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| TrevorV|Home | johnsom I'll PM you so we're not spamming in here about my stuffs | 17:18 |
| johnsom | OK | 17:19 |
| fnaval_ | johnsom: ok, that's what im seeing in the api. it throws a conflict which I suppose is the correct behavior | 17:19 |
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| fnaval_ | i was thinking that it would support re-encryption | 17:19 |
| johnsom | Yeah, we haven't done that yet | 17:19 |
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| fnaval | kk thanks for the info johnsom | 17:20 |
| fnaval | rather clarification | 17:20 |
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| bogdan | sorry I had to disconnect, did anyone respond on the LBaaS v2 balancer status DOWN issue? | 17:22 |
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| bogdan | is this the right channel for LBaaS v2 with Octavia? | 17:30 |
| johnsom | bogdan Hi. You are in the right place. Can you explain the problem you are seeing? | 17:32 |
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| fnaval | another question: do all the members of a pool have to be configured for the pools protocol? | 17:40 |
| fnaval | e.g. members that are listening/serving on https - do they have to be in pools that are https also? could there be members that are serving/listening on http but be in a https pool? | 17:40 |
| fnaval | i noticed in the api that there isn't a way to specify the protocol of a member | 17:41 |
| johnsom | Yes, the protocol is at the pool level and not per member | 17:42 |
| fnaval | does it matter what protocol the backend member is serving? | 17:46 |
| fnaval | it appears that port is only information in the member list details | 17:46 |
| fnaval | so, if I misconfigured a backend member to be https but it's on a http pool, would the api error? or would the health check show it as down? | 17:47 |
| johnsom | Well, if the port is serving something other than was configured on the pool, the connection may not work, but that is user error | 17:47 |
| johnsom | No, API doesn't have any way to know what the user created on the member | 17:48 |
| johnsom | Health check, if the health monitor is configured for http but the member on that port is serving https, would result in the member reported as error and removed from the rotation | 17:48 |
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| fnaval | johnsom: cool thanks for the explain - this gives me more info on how to test it. | 17:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Aishwarya Thangappa proposed openstack/octavia: Adds a new feature to limit the amphora build rate https://review.openstack.org/303304 | 17:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/307761 | 18:14 |
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| TrevorV|Home | johnsom I went ahead and updated the other test base | 18:45 |
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| TrevorV|Home | Added the extension specifically and then updated the test. Should work with tox and by itself, testing now | 18:45 |
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| bogdan | I am trying to setup LBaaS v2 with Octavia on Liberty, after lb creation the "loadbalancer-..." port has status DOWN, no errors in the neutron or any of the octavia process logs, also no qlbaas-* namespace gets created and ip netns exec qdhcp-... ping $LB-IP says "No rout to host", any idea what could be wrong and how to troubleshoot? | 19:31 |
| fnaval | johnsom ^^ any idea? | 19:39 |
| Frito | Does any one in here have any idea how to change the interface "o-hm0" from the "192.168.0.X" address space? When I run ./stack I end up loosing network b/c that conflicts with my home network (eth0 / wlan0). | 19:47 |
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| johnsom | bogdan Octavia does not setup namespaces on the devstack host as it does not need them. Octavia builds load balancers in service VMs | 19:50 |
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| johnsom | Frito, yes, octavia/devstack/settings OCTAVIA_MGMT_SUBNET* settings | 19:53 |
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| Frito | Whoots! Thanks johnsom | 19:56 |
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| bogdan | johnsom this is relief of a kind - at leastthis oneis not broken at my side. Any idea why the balancer port status is DOWN? how to troubleshoot? | 19:57 |
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| johnsom | bogdan Also note, each load balancer gets two ports, one of which is status "down". This is for the allowed address pairs to function. | 19:59 |
| johnsom | bogdan Are you running this on devstack? | 19:59 |
| johnsom | bogdan If you are, once the listener is created, you should be able to curl to the "vip_address" listed in the "neutron lbaas-loadbalancer-list" output. | 20:00 |
| johnsom | bogdan If you don't have a pool or members it should return 503 | 20:01 |
| bogdan | johnsom I am not on devstack and I have listener and a pool with 2 members | 20:02 |
| johnsom | bogdan Ok, check your 'neutron lbaas-loadbalancer-status' output to see if those members are up. Assuming you have added a health monitor | 20:03 |
| johnsom | bogdan If not on devstack, check that you have a route from your host to the network your vip is on. Also check security groups. | 20:03 |
| johnsom | bogdan If you are trying to use a floating IP to the VIP address, note that DVR has some bugs and you may not be able to use the FIP with DVR enabled. | 20:04 |
| bogdan | johnsom members are up, security groups are ok because I have tried to ping and curl the members directly via their IPs in the private network (the same network where loadbalancer is created), I do not have route to the internal/private network but I am accessing the private network IPs via their qdhcp namespace | 20:06 |
| bogdan | johnsom I tried the Floating IP associated to the balancer - made no difference | 20:06 |
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| bogdan | johnsom is there something that I should find in the Octavia or Neutron logs? | 20:07 |
| johnsom | Hmm, so LB VIP is in the same network as the members. One-arm setup. Should be working, especially is the status command returned that the members are "ONLINE" | 20:08 |
| bogdan | johnsom but it is strange that I do not get the second port - I only get one port per balancer | 20:08 |
| bogdan | johnsom yes, the only port that gets created with the balancer is in the same network as members. where should I see the second port? | 20:10 |
| johnsom | bogdan When you run "nova list", look for the "amphora" vm. Ignore the "lb-mgmt-net" IP, but the other IP, this is the IP on the second port. It should be very close to the VIP IP | 20:10 |
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| johnsom | You can do "neutron port-list | grep <nova list IP>" to find the other port | 20:11 |
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| bogdan | johnsom well the strange thing is that I have no amphora vm | 20:11 |
| bogdan | johnsom ok it seems that I did not look at the Octavia logs for a while, I only monitored them until some steps ...let me check them again and will get back to you | 20:12 |
| johnsom | Ok, that is a big problem. ha. Ok, so to track that down, look in the octavia worker log. It's o-cw on devstack, but probably named something different on your system | 20:12 |
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| johnsom | It should tell you why nova failed to boot an instance. | 20:13 |
| johnsom | Typical issues are missing glance image, missing glance image ID in the config, etc. | 20:13 |
| johnsom | bogdan Things in the [controller_worker] section of the octavia.conf | 20:14 |
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| fnaval | when we talk about listeners and pools, should we say: "connect a listener to a pool" or "connect a pool to a listener"? i started to say the latter, but I think the former is correct. | 20:20 |
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| johnsom | fnaval, yeah, I think both are actually correct now. | 20:20 |
| fnaval | ah ok. but before shared pools, I think a listener was needed to create a pool | 20:21 |
| johnsom | Correct | 20:21 |
| blogan | link pool and listener together :) | 20:21 |
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| fnaval | if I dont specify a listener to a pool creation, a pool wont have a listener on that pool ever? is that correct? how do I update a pool with no listeners, with a listener? | 20:24 |
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| xgerman | yep, no listener that pool won’t have a listener | 20:25 |
| xgerman | you can do an update on the listener and set the default pool… fnaval | 20:26 |
| fnaval | ah, default_pool_id on a listener create, apparently | 20:26 |
| blogan | isn't default_pool_id updateable on the listener? | 20:26 |
| xgerman | it is | 20:26 |
| johnsom | Yep | 20:26 |
| fnaval | i see. ok, kinda still trying to get my head around that since the pool's listener gets updated by a update to the default_pool_id on a listener. I think that should have been done on the poolside | 20:27 |
| xgerman | well, blogan designed that stuff… you know where he sits | 20:29 |
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| blogan | xgerman: some of that got added to teh shared pools constructs | 20:30 |
| * blogan finds xgerman | 20:30 | |
| blogan | peekaboo | 20:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Trevor Vardeman proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas: Add Health Monitor Max Retries Down https://review.openstack.org/306084 | 20:48 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron-lbaas: Set HTTP status code to 409 for LBs in PENDING* https://review.openstack.org/306591 | 21:03 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/octavia: Run amphora haproxy in a network namespace https://review.openstack.org/300292 | 21:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Madhusudhan Kandadai proposed openstack/octavia: Give permission to run this script at gate https://review.openstack.org/306053 | 21:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/octavia: Defer updating role and vrrp_priority for failover https://review.openstack.org/305551 | 22:07 |
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| fnaval | can I have members that are listening on the same port as part of the same pool? | 22:20 |
| xgerman | I think so | 22:20 |
| fnaval | ok. gonna test it out too | 22:20 |
| rm_work | the member listening port doesn't matter, it's per client node | 22:20 |
| fnaval | i would think so also | 22:20 |
| rm_work | it's just whatever you want | 22:20 |
| rm_work | err, per host node | 22:20 |
| xgerman | you can evan have the same member twice if you have two services on different ports BTW | 22:20 |
| fnaval | rm_work: it doesn't have to match the listener's port right? | 22:20 |
| rm_work | right not at all | 22:21 |
| xgerman | not at all | 22:21 |
| rm_work | one of my use-cases for a LB is to translate a port | 22:21 |
| fnaval | ah, yes, same member (ip) but different ports | 22:21 |
| fnaval | good to know. another test case for me to automate | 22:21 |
| rm_work | yeah, if you have like an archaic single-threaded webapp, you can run it like 8 times on an 8-core machine, on ports 8080-8084 and then add that same IP with each port | 22:22 |
| rm_work | and bam, multithreaded :P (kinda) | 22:22 |
| fnaval | yea that's kinda how the scenario tests do it | 22:22 |
| fnaval | use the same instance but create 2 web servers listening on different ports | 22:23 |
| rm_work | yep | 22:23 |
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| kong | did anyone see this problem: | 23:57 |
| kong | http://paste.openstack.org/show/495068/ | 23:57 |
| kong | when I run tox -e py27 | 23:57 |
| kong | for octavia | 23:57 |
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| johnsom | py27 is running sphinx???? Hmmm | 23:58 |
| johnsom | Haven't seen it. | 23:58 |
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