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| atul | @All : I need +2 for the review patch :https://review.openstack.org/#/c/330311/. Kindly review | 05:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Miguel Angel Ajo proposed openstack/octavia: Allow deploying secondary nodes with no lbaas/neutron https://review.openstack.org/324796 | 09:22 |
| openstackgerrit | Miguel Angel Ajo proposed openstack/octavia: Insert haproxy in front of all the o-api endpoints https://review.openstack.org/325978 | 09:22 |
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| matt-borland | Here: an important patch for LBaaS UI: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/330697/ | 13:36 |
| matt-borland | without it, the panel doesn't respect essential Horizon settings. | 13:36 |
| matt-borland | If you need me to talk through it, just ping me | 13:37 |
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| ajmiller | matt-borland I can look at it this morning | 14:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Valleriya Perelman proposed openstack/octavia: WIP: ACTIVE-ACTIVE Topology OVS-based Distributor Backend https://review.openstack.org/320422 | 14:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Valleriya Perelman proposed openstack/octavia: ACTIVE-ACTIVE Topology Initial Distributor Noop Driver https://review.openstack.org/313006 | 14:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Valleriya Perelman proposed openstack/octavia: WIP: ACTIVE-ACTIVE - controller network tasks https://review.openstack.org/323481 | 14:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Valleriya Perelman proposed openstack/octavia: WIP: ACTIVE-ACTIVE - network driver related changes https://review.openstack.org/322494 | 14:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Valleriya Perelman proposed openstack/octavia: WIP: ACTIVE-ACTIVE Topology OVS-based Distributor Driver https://review.openstack.org/317629 | 14:12 |
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| matt-borland | ajmiller, thanks! :) | 14:18 |
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| openstackgerrit | Valleriya Perelman proposed openstack/octavia: WIP: distributor image creation https://review.openstack.org/327137 | 14:28 |
| openstackgerrit | Valleriya Perelman proposed openstack/octavia: WIP: ACTIVE-ACTIVE - adding cluster table https://review.openstack.org/331693 | 14:28 |
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| openstackgerrit | Valleriya Perelman proposed openstack/octavia: WIP: ACTIVE-ACTIVE - amphora cluster DB https://review.openstack.org/327138 | 14:45 |
| openstackgerrit | Valleriya Perelman proposed openstack/octavia: ACTIVE-ACTIVE Topology Initial Distributor Noop Driver https://review.openstack.org/313006 | 14:46 |
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| blogan | good morning everyone, i'm back from "vacation" | 15:24 |
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| xgerman | blogan this time you even skipped the Octavia meeting. So probably “real” vacation I hope ;-) | 15:49 |
| blogan | xgerman: no i was at home fixing up a wall and dealing with all the unfortunate incidents taht came with that, and also other preparations for twins, like minivan shopping | 15:51 |
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| dougwig | blogan: wb | 16:11 |
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| blogan | dougwig: ty | 16:12 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/octavia: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/331765 | 16:59 |
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| dougwig | TrevorV: any word on midcycle venue? | 18:06 |
| TrevorV | dougwig "venue"? | 18:07 |
| TrevorV | Uh, Rackspace Castle? | 18:07 |
| dougwig | TrevorV: last i heard, dates and location hadn't been finalized? | 18:07 |
| TrevorV | Oh, sorry, I think last Wednesday I confirmed that... did I imagine that conversation in the meeting?!?! Please tell me I'm not goin crazy | 18:07 |
| dougwig | no, i'm sure i'm nuts. | 18:09 |
| dougwig | are we doing the whole week? | 18:09 |
| dougwig | i'll be there mon-thu, so that's my preference. :) | 18:09 |
| TrevorV | I think the meeting said all 5 days, however if we want to talk on Wednesday about it being shorter, we should. | 18:10 |
| TrevorV | I'm typically in favor of a 4-day midcycle myself, I feel like we get burned out with all 5 days, but maybe that's just me | 18:10 |
| TrevorV | ha ha | 18:10 |
| dougwig | TrevorV: yeah, that's why i scheduled a thursday night return. i'm useless and cranky on friday. | 18:11 |
| TrevorV | Most people leave lunch time-ish on Friday anyways, so it makes sense | 18:11 |
| blogan | all 5 days!?!?! | 18:12 |
| blogan | i'm in favor of Tues - Thus | 18:12 |
| blogan | thurs | 18:12 |
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| TrevorV | dougwig are radware tests supposed to be upstream? | 18:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Trevor Vardeman proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas: Add Health Monitor Max Retries Down https://review.openstack.org/306084 | 18:22 |
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| dougwig | TrevorV: until lbaas driver decomposition is required, yes. so far, the group hasn't made that a requirement, and radware has their code in-tree. | 18:25 |
| TrevorV | dougwig all good, just curious. Half of the radware tests are failing though | 18:25 |
| TrevorV | At least every time I've run tox | 18:25 |
| TrevorV | brb, rebooting to mac for a meeting | 18:26 |
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| dougwig | TrevorV: feel free to disable them and file a bug. | 18:51 |
| TrevorV | dougwig I'm wondering if it something i have locally | 18:51 |
| dougwig | unless you've broken them somehow, we shouldn't be debugging vendor code. | 18:52 |
| TrevorV | Well its just the 'actual' versus 'expected' is different all over the place... I only looked through a little of the code to see which were failing, but it looked like it shouldn't be broken, so idk | 18:53 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron-lbaas-dashboard: Make Barbican client respect OPENSTACK_ENDPOINT_TYPE https://review.openstack.org/330697 | 19:00 |
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| xgerman | since I am not coming I think you should make it 10 days and chain people to the chairs | 19:28 |
| blogan | and force feed them bbq? | 19:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron-lbaas: Fix doc build if git is absent https://review.openstack.org/305027 | 19:34 |
| xgerman | blogan +1 | 19:35 |
| xgerman | I will see if they have BBQ in Cincinnati and eat a rib in spirit | 19:35 |
| blogan | xgerman: just one rib? doesn't sound filling | 19:36 |
| blogan | unless its a brontasaurus rib | 19:36 |
| blogan | http://goodmenproject.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/flintstones_brontosaurus_ribs.jpg | 19:36 |
| xgerman | indeed — better go with a full rack | 19:37 |
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| brad_behle | Can someone point me to any documentation about running Octavia in containers? I'm looking for options for an environment where thousands of load balancers are required, and don't want the overhead 1 GB of mem per Octavia service VM per load balancer | 19:58 |
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| dougwig | blogan: any material on rax's usage? | 20:04 |
| blogan | brad_behle: so you want octavia to spin up containers instead of VMs? | 20:04 |
| blogan | to host haproxy? | 20:04 |
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| brad_behle | blogan: Yeah, looking for any way to get a more lightweight implementation for Neutron LBaaSv2 load balancers. A full VM seems like overkill resource wise, and I thought I read in one doc that containers were the proposed answer to that. | 20:05 |
| brad_behle | blogan: but I'm open to other suggestions for getting lightweight load balancers | 20:06 |
| blogan | brad_behle: do you plan on using magnum for this? or any container service that works for you? | 20:07 |
| blogan | brad_behle: reason i ask is right now its only built for nova VMs and neutron right now, but we all do want container support | 20:07 |
| blogan | brad_behle: what dougwig said about trying to get the agent driver in for free is true | 20:08 |
| brad_behle | blogan: no preference here as far as container service | 20:08 |
| blogan | brad_behle: but i think a better option would be a container driver | 20:08 |
| blogan | and we were planning on doing it all on containers here at rax, but that got shelved and we've pivoted back to VMs for now | 20:08 |
| dougwig | the nova-compute-lxd path might also be interesting, as it'd work with our current nova-centric implementation. | 20:09 |
| blogan | so the obvious solution woudl be to use magnum, BUT magnum isn't really what we want, we basically want a nova service taht spins up containers instead of VMS and we don't have to worry about anything else | 20:09 |
| blogan | dougwig: yeah, i dont know much abou tit, but if its exactly like the nova api and also supports hot plugging, it'd work | 20:10 |
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| blogan | brad_behle: there's also an effort underway to reduce the size of the image needed for VMs because 1 GB is asking a lot | 20:11 |
| blogan | but still, containers is the future, its just a matter of getting there | 20:11 |
| blogan | of course we could just write our own container scheduling service and reinvent the wheel there a bit | 20:13 |
| brad_behle | blogan: So what makes you say that a container driver would be better than the existing namespace HAProxy driver? | 20:13 |
| xgerman | namespace haproxy is a) deprecated b) not reliable (no failover) and c) doesn’t scale | 20:14 |
| blogan | brad_behle: noisy neighbor can be better mitigated with containers, unless i'm unaware of something | 20:14 |
| blogan | xgerman: a and b can be fixed, c is debatable still, not sure that's ever been accurate | 20:15 |
| blogan | in fact there are patches up rgiht now that are improving the v2 agent that i've been meaning to get around to reviewing | 20:15 |
| xgerman | everything can be fixed ;-) | 20:17 |
| brad_behle | blogan, xgerman: do you know of any scaling limits or data on number of load balancers with either the namespace HAProxy or the Octavia drivers? | 20:19 |
| xgerman | Octavia doesn’t have any limits by design - namespace will probably eventually bump up against the RabbitMQ limits (and scaling Rabbit is hard) | 20:20 |
| xgerman | since you use Neutron’s queue if you crowd out the Neutron messages your system might not work properly | 20:21 |
| blogan | brad_behle: like i said above i'm not sold taht teh namespace driver isn't scalable, so i ahve no numbers for that, octavia will provide horizontal scalability once the active active feature gets in | 20:22 |
| blogan | but it already supports ha which the namespace driver does not, but thats obviously something that could be fixed | 20:22 |
| blogan | xgerman, johnsom, and sbalukoff probably know more about the namespace driver limits than I do though, they've either attempted to run it in production or have | 20:24 |
| xgerman | I have had bad luck with queues a few time so I am skeptical at they infinite scaling pitential | 20:25 |
| blogan | well octavia does use queues! | 20:25 |
| blogan | api -> queue -> cw | 20:25 |
| xgerman | yeah, but we also use HTTP to the amphora and UDP for status | 20:26 |
| xgerman | whereas in namespace everything runs over the queue | 20:26 |
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| xgerman | queues in general hate too many messages and too many subscribers | 20:27 |
| blogan | ah good point, and our queue is just for events really, CUD events | 20:27 |
| blogan | adn thsoe aren't going to be very frequent (relatively speaking) | 20:28 |
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| brad_behle | xgerman: You said the namespace HAProxy is deprecated, but I can't find any evidence of that, can you point me to it? | 20:43 |
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| blogan | brad_behle, xgerman: i'm not sure that ever officially happened, i know its been takled about though | 20:56 |
| blogan | i know v1 got deprecated | 20:56 |
| xgerman | yeah, I think it survived the last summit somehow | 20:57 |
| xgerman | but since it’s not the reference implementation support is slim and some features are not implemented (L7?) | 20:57 |
| brad_behle | blogan, xgerman: But I think namespace HAProxy driver is supported in LBaaSv2, right? The advanced networking guide describes two options, one is Octavia and the other is the HAProxy Agent driver | 20:58 |
| brad_behle | https://github.com/openstack/openstack-manuals/blob/master/doc/networking-guide/source/adv-config-lbaas.rst#configuring-lbaas-v2-with-an-agent | 20:59 |
| blogan | brad_behle: yes as of now it is | 20:59 |
| xgerman | yes, it is supported but nobody is actively working on it | 20:59 |
| xgerman | but we accept patches | 20:59 |
| blogan | some are, there's some patches that got up recently | 20:59 |
| xgerman | it’s OpenSource after all :-) | 21:00 |
| brad_behle | Got it. | 21:02 |
| nmagnezi | blogan, hello :-) | 21:07 |
| nmagnezi | blogan, any chance to get some love to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/299998/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/327966/ ? | 21:07 |
| blogan | nmagnezi: i was skimming over those a bit today, i need to give it more of a thorough review though | 21:08 |
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| nmagnezi | blogan, aye. thanks a lot! | 21:09 |
| blogan | nmagnezi: just got back from pto, so catchign up on all the things | 21:09 |
| nmagnezi | blogan, got it. thanks again. hope you enjoyed your PTO :) | 21:09 |
| blogan | nmagnezi: it coulda been better :) thanks | 21:09 |
| openstackgerrit | Nir Magnezi proposed openstack/octavia: WIP https://review.openstack.org/331841 | 21:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Trevor Vardeman proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas: Add Health Monitor Max Retries Down https://review.openstack.org/306084 | 21:24 |
| TrevorV | See I knew it wasn't your fault dougwig | 21:24 |
| TrevorV | Just fixed it. | 21:24 |
| TrevorV | I think I did a weird/bad rebase or something. Just "fixed" it | 21:24 |
| TrevorV | We'll see if gates pass this time | 21:25 |
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| kevo | Has anyone dealt with this error? CertificateGenerationException: Could not sign the certificate request: Failed to load /etc/octavia/certs/ca_01.pem. | 21:47 |
| kevo | i used this command to create the certs | 21:47 |
| kevo | ./create_certificates.sh /etc/octavia/certs /opt/stack/octavia/etc/certificates/openssl.cnf | 21:47 |
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| blogan | kevo: rm_work might be able to help on that, i dont know enough about that to help | 22:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/octavia: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/331765 | 23:11 |
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| kevo | blogan: Thanks. I figured it out. It was a permission issue. | 23:41 |
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