Saturday, 2016-07-23

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rm_workjohnsom: not clear what about the first one could possibly break anything?00:13
rm_workit'd only affect new images00:14
rm_workor testing00:14
rm_worknothing about the deploy00:14
johnsomrm_work ???00:14
rm_workhttps://review.openstack.org/33757900:14
rm_workand AFAIU the alias was never working to begin with?00:14
rm_workhttps://review.openstack.org/34408100:14
johnsomWell, the first one, if people are assuming they are going to get a 5GB image by using the default, that is now no longer the case.00:15
rm_work[00:23:55]  <johnsom>sbalukoff and rm_work Please keep in mind backwards compatibility when you are reviewing/merging.  Overnight I see two changes that could potentially break folks existing setups.00:15
johnsomSo, any automation scripts would have to be changed....00:15
johnsomOn the second one, it did work00:15
rm_worknot sure what would need to assume that, or when being smaller would be problematic00:15
rm_workmaybe my point is, i'm STILL not seeing the issue, and would merge again00:16
johnsomIf the log rate it hihg00:16
johnsomhigh00:16
rm_work?00:16
rm_workthe 2G isn't the disk size, it's the image size, right? the disk size once it's running is larger IIRC00:16
johnsomIf the HAProxy connection logging rate is high for their environment, they may want a 5GB filesystem00:16
rm_workon my system it seems to take like 40GB per VM00:17
johnsomNo, that is the expanded size.  The build size is like 300MB00:17
rm_workeven with the 2G image00:17
rm_workerr00:17
rm_workthe build size is 2G when I build a 2G image00:17
rm_workverifying00:17
rm_workhmmm00:18
johnsomYep00:18
rm_workOK, guess it's coming out to 500mb~ now00:19
johnsomI know, I wrote that code...00:19
rm_workOH00:19
johnsomYeah, looks like it has bloated up some since I last looked and it was 300MB00:19
rm_workit works differently for VHD00:19
rm_workI always build VHDs00:19
johnsomThat might be00:19
rm_workthey must not be sparse00:19
rm_workthen why do they take like 40GB of space on disk for every VM I boot <_<00:20
johnsomswap space?00:20
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rm_workmaybe? :/ still00:20
johnsomnova log spew?00:20
johnsomYeah, 40 seems high00:20
rm_worki can only boot one amp on some flavors due to disk restrictions, lol00:20
johnsomThat said, I have run my devstack out of disk, so something eats space00:21
rm_worktook a while to figure out that was the problem00:21
johnsomAnyway, I'm not reverting it, but I do want to make sure we are watching for things that could break people's puppet/ansible/chef/shinyball scripts00:22
rm_worklbaasv1 is deprecated right now, and is this its last cycle? or does it have one more00:23
rm_workAFAIU we're essentially preparing to remove it00:23
rm_workso i'm not particularly concerned about breakage <_<00:23
johnsomI think we can pull it in Newton, but we were still getting some push back from a few users....00:23
rm_workare you sure that token was valid?00:24
rm_workthe commit message / bug seem to indicate it was not00:24
johnsomWe have also been getting some community heat for doing some questionable changes...00:24
johnsomThe way I read it, something changed recently that was causing a failure.00:24
rm_workand these were BOTH devstack changes00:24
rm_worktldr I'm still unconcerned00:25
johnsomNo, the diskimage-create is not just devstack00:25
johnsomI know at least one operator using it00:26
rm_worklol, it's funny because it's not just that I approved it, i actually suggested the change to the default size00:26
johnsom....00:26
rm_workhe wasn't going to do it originally in that patch >_<00:26
johnsomAnyway, just one of the billion things we need to remember to watch for when reviewing.00:27
rm_workk00:27
johnsomWe did have two reverts in the last few weeks too.00:27
rm_workI'm just worried that maybe I don't see some of this stuff the same way00:27
rm_workyeah, one of those was a misunderstanding on my part T_T00:27
rm_workconnection_limits00:28
johnsomYeah, just broken00:28
johnsomThe gate for that caught it, but it was non-voting00:28
rm_workwait, it did? I thought it was all green00:28
rm_workah namespace-nv00:29
johnsomYeah, that is the haproxy namespace driver00:29
johnsomIt's just API, but it exhibited the error that the HEAT folks reported.00:30
johnsomhttp://logs.openstack.org/06/341806/1/check/gate-neutron-lbaasv2-dsvm-api-namespace-nv/02cb8bf/logs/screen-q-lbaasv2.txt.gz#_2016-07-20_10_11_45_60800:30
rm_workyeah reading it now00:30
rm_worki think i just need to avoid touching things that affect haproxy-ns and lbaasv100:31
johnsomHahaha, it makes me nervous too as I have not spent as much time in n-lbaas00:31
johnsomFinally got some time to spend on the failover issue today.  Making some progress.00:33
rm_workdo we need to re-propose that?00:33
rm_workwith a .get() or something00:33
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rm_workor some sort of safety check to see if we even need to be doing it00:34
johnsommax conn, if it is really an issue, yes it will need to be resubmitted00:34
rm_workoh, these two keep falling off radar, and seem fine to me: https://review.openstack.org/340424 https://review.openstack.org/34354100:39
rm_workthough the second one .... i don't think it's harmful, but i also have never seen it00:39
sbalukoffOh, was that Dustin's patch?00:39
rm_worksbalukoff: yeah00:39
sbalukoffHmmm... Ok, we have some people doing performance testing on the namespace driver of all things. That's where that sprang from.00:40
rm_workthe authority with which he used the connection_limit key convinced me that it should be on there00:40
sbalukoffApologies I didn't notice it failed the -nv job.00:40
rm_workyeah i didn't either00:40
rm_worki scanned and i guess i just automatically discount anything that's nv00:40
rm_workother than the scenario job in octavia which i've had to train myself to look at00:41
rm_worksbalukoff: want to look at the two i just linked? :00:41
rm_work:P00:41
rm_workwhen stuff gets to the second page I start to get sad00:41
sbalukoffWell, that's not the only problem this internal team has been seeing with the namespace driver. I'm not the one who directed them to use it in the first place, and will probably be writing an extensive e-mail (again) to internal teams to actually check with community people on project direction before they do stupid shit.00:41
rm_workthough, all of the A/A stuff is spamming the change list <_<00:41
sbalukoffBut they did identify a few actual problems hat probably need fixing. Dustin's patch was supposed to hit one of them.00:41
sbalukoffI'm actually in the middle of something else at the moment.00:42
rm_worknp00:42
rm_workthey are not important patches00:42
sbalukoffDon't want to lose train of thought on that...00:42
rm_worki just feel guilty letting stuff get off the first page with no -100:42
sbalukoffHeh!00:42
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johnsomYeah, the backlog makes me sad too, but too short on cycles and I don't want to rush things00:45
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rm_workwell, we cleared a LOT of it00:46
sbalukoffOver the last couple weeks?  Yes.00:46
sbalukoffWith other stuff on my plate, I've largely been ignoring stuff that doesn't pass jenkins. Which includes all the A/A stuff for now.00:46
rm_workyeah00:47
rm_workpassing jenkins is like00:47
rm_work... absolute prereq for me to look at anything00:47
sbalukoffYeah.00:47
sbalukoffOk, at a good stopping point...00:49
sbalukoffrm_work: That DIB patch...  I'm trying to understand the necessity for this. Is this just for people who have dedicated image building hosts or something?00:50
sbalukoffGiven how much DIB changes, it seems like we might be asking for people to ask spurrious support questions if our code keeps up with a recent DIB change and their build host isn't up to date...00:50
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openstackgerritMichael Johnson proposed openstack/octavia: Fixes failover flow with namespace driver  https://review.openstack.org/31227000:51
sbalukoffI guess I can ask the guy submitting the patch...00:52
rm_workyeah00:52
johnsomThe DIB folks have updated our code off and on BTW00:53
rm_workman, i wish i could get that ipv6 patch merged before you stomp around in the plug / vip templates00:53
rm_workbut00:53
rm_worki think yours is more important00:53
rm_workso i'll prepare to rebase00:54
johnsomrm_work You have time, I still have more testing to do and a suspicion that there are still a few bugs to fix.00:54
johnsomIt's still WIP00:54
rm_workyeah, but don't want to make your life a whole lot harder than it is already, fixing that :P00:55
johnsomI guess he just wants to use the installed DIB and elements if someone has pip installed them.00:55
sbalukoffYeah...  I'll put a -1 with a question as to what's the point of this, and will change to a +2/+A if he's got a good response. :)00:56
sbalukoff(I suspect he has a good response; People don't usually spin their wheels on shit like this unless they've got a reason. I just want to know what it is.)00:56
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johnsomRight now I require you to check them out in a certain spot.  It's in the README.rst for the script.00:57
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johnsomOk, I need to head off to dinner.  Catch you folks later00:58
rm_worklater00:59
sbalukoffHave a good one!01:03
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rm_workI think maybe that's something I should be more strict about in reviews01:23
rm_worknot just "yeah the code looks good", but also "why do we want this"01:23
rm_worklol01:23
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/octavia: Disbale DNS update for port o-hm0 in devstack  https://review.openstack.org/34354101:44
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openstackgerritYang Li proposed openstack/octavia: Remove unnecessary check for type check  https://review.openstack.org/34632908:08
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openstackgerritYang Li proposed openstack/octavia: Show more information for InvalidURL exception  https://review.openstack.org/34634109:28
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openstackgerritYang Li proposed openstack/octavia: Fix unimport '_()' bug  https://review.openstack.org/34635510:33
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openstackgerritYang Li proposed openstack/octavia: Fix unimport '_()' bug  https://review.openstack.org/34635513:30
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greghaynessbalukoff: dib doesnt change much actually, im wondering what the context is22:35
greghayneswe actually havent had a major version bump ever22:35
greghaynesI should probably mention - when figuring out how the octavia dib stuff works I noticed theres a lot of logic around wrapping dib to be more friendly, so im working on some dib stuff that hopefully can make it less of an issue22:36
greghaynessince theres a few projects all writing the same type of code it seems worth pulling out22:37
greghaynesrm_work: re VHD - vhd's are huge becaues they are horribly compressed, im extremely baffled why anyone would ever require that format :(22:38
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openstackgerritYang Li proposed openstack/octavia: Fix unimport '_()' bug  https://review.openstack.org/34635523:44

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