Wednesday, 2016-09-28

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openstackgerritzhangyanxian proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas: Fix typo in v2_driver.py  https://review.openstack.org/37811100:46
openstackgerritzhangyanxian proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas: Fix typo in v2_driver.py  https://review.openstack.org/37811100:47
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/octavia: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/37791801:13
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openstackgerritHe Qing proposed openstack/octavia: Add MTU configuraion when plugging vip or network  https://review.openstack.org/37733201:50
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openstackgerritPhillip Toohill proposed openstack/octavia: Add quota support to Octavia  https://review.openstack.org/36079403:58
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openstackgerritValleriya Perelman proposed openstack/octavia: ACTIVE-ACTIVE - controller network tasks  https://review.openstack.org/32348107:18
openstackgerritValleriya Perelman proposed openstack/octavia: ACTIVE-ACTIVE - network driver related changes  https://review.openstack.org/32249407:18
openstackgerritValleriya Perelman proposed openstack/octavia: ACTIVE-ACTIVE Topology - amphora cluster DB  https://review.openstack.org/32713807:18
openstackgerritValleriya Perelman proposed openstack/octavia: ACTIVE-ACTIVE Topology - Distributor image creation  https://review.openstack.org/32713707:18
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openstackgerritValleriya Perelman proposed openstack/octavia: ACTIVE-ACTIVE Topology - Initial Cluster Manager  https://review.openstack.org/33692510:10
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ajo_ping ptoohill https://review.openstack.org/#/c/371807/1211:58
ajo_ptoohill, did you get this to work ? :)11:58
ajo_ptoohill, oh, I see it works :)12:02
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TrevorVptoohill, whenever you're online, hit me up14:17
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rm_workTrevorV: o/14:27
TrevorVHey rm_work how goes it?14:27
rm_work¯\_(ツ)_/¯14:28
TrevorVYeah, I know the feels ha ha14:29
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openstackgerritMiguel Angel Ajo proposed openstack/octavia: Enable support for multinode in the gate hook  https://review.openstack.org/37867714:51
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TrevorVHey ptoohill, hit me up on hangouts when you get online, I'm going to be AFK14:56
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johnsomnjohnston FYI, the Octavia release is now posted to the newton release page: https://releases.openstack.org/newton/#octavia15:30
johnsomI saw that you asked about it yesterday15:31
njohnstonThanks johnsom!15:31
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johnsomAgenda for today: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Octavia/Weekly_Meeting_Agenda#Meeting_2016-09-2816:37
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openstackgerritMichael Johnson proposed openstack/octavia: Remove pypi download shield from Readme  https://review.openstack.org/37880816:53
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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/37885316:56
openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas-dashboard: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/37747316:56
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openstackgerritPaul Glass proposed openstack/octavia: Basic listener scenario test  https://review.openstack.org/37892217:15
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openstackgerritPhillip Toohill proposed openstack/octavia: WIP: Add quota support to Octavia  https://review.openstack.org/36079417:53
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron-lbaas-dashboard: Updated from global requirements  https://review.openstack.org/37747318:13
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mugsieso, with the lbaas v2 API, can I get a list of pools, filtered by loadbalancer_id, or listener_id?18:48
mugsiejohnsom: dougwig ^18:48
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johnsomYes18:50
mugsieusing query params?18:50
johnsomI think so18:50
mugsieare you sure?18:50
johnsomno18:51
johnsomThis so was for your first question18:51
mugsie:)18:52
mugsieI think we may have found a pretty big issue in kubernetes -_-18:52
johnsomOnly one?18:52
mugsiewell, another18:52
mugsieso, anytime some one removes a service, all of their pools get deleted18:53
mugsiefor all services18:54
mugsieso, with some expeirementation - there is no way to get a list of pools in a lb / listener18:54
mugsiewithout walking tihe whole tree18:54
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pglassmugsie: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/octavia/api/octaviaapi.html#list-pools ? unless you're not using octavia18:56
mugsiejohnsom: any reason https://github.com/openstack/neutron-lbaas/blob/master/neutron_lbaas/extensions/loadbalancerv2.py#L261-L263 has is_visable = False ?18:56
mugsiepglass: well, we have to use lbaas's api18:56
mugsieseen as Octivia is only one of the drivers we support18:56
pglassah, okay18:56
mugsieand the octaiva API didnt have keystone auth in mitaka18:57
johnsommugsie, see the new version here: https://github.com/openstack/neutron-lbaas/blob/master/neutron_lbaas/extensions/sharedpools.py18:57
mugsieah18:58
mugsiethats newton code right?18:58
johnsomMitaka18:58
mugsieI thought shared pools didnt make it?18:58
mugsiehuh18:58
mugsieOK.18:58
sbalukoffShared pools and L7 has been in since Mitaka.18:59
johnsomYeah, it made it.  It was the cascade stuff that didn't all make it18:59
mugsieand that shoudl show up in neutron ext-list , right?19:00
johnsomyes, it does19:01
mugsiedamn19:01
johnsom| shared_pools              | Shared pools for LBaaSv2                      |19:01
mugsieOK, without that extension - who can I get a list of pools used by an Loadbalancer? can a listener only ever have one pool?19:03
sbalukoffUm... I don't know anyone running Neutron-LBaaS that doesn't use that extension. Why would you exclude it?19:04
johnsomYeah, that would be strange19:04
johnsomOr are you running liberty?19:05
mugsie_I did not work on the lbaas team in hpe ;)19:05
johnsomI did, but when I left it was liberty....19:06
mugsie_It's definitely mitaka19:06
xgermanI am pretty sure it still is19:06
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xgermanjohnsom did you get the single create/delete into N?19:07
* xgerman is too lazy to read release notes19:07
sbalukoffI'm pretty sure that landed really early in the cycle.19:07
johnsomYeah, I think so as well.19:07
xgermanwell, mugs once we are on N things will be real easy :-(19:08
xgerman:-)19:08
sbalukoffHaha19:08
mugsie_Heh19:08
johnsomhttps://pypi.python.org/pypi/octavia19:09
johnsomIt's up there for the grabbing....19:09
johnsomgrin19:09
* mugsie will just write in go19:09
mugsie:D19:09
mugsiethats the thing these days right?19:09
sbalukoffRust, I hear.19:09
sbalukoffXD19:09
mugsieoh - true19:09
mugsienew governance patch needed19:09
mugsieOK, going to bang my head against the wall again in the morning19:13
mugsieenjoy your day folks19:13
mugsieI also filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/octavia/+bug/1627780 if anyone wants to take a look :)19:14
openstackLaunchpad bug 1627780 in octavia "Octavia creates security groups on Load Balancer ports" [Undecided,New]19:14
johnsommugsie What do you want to change on the SG?19:16
zetabA: stay out of security groups (this is the best option)19:16
zetabwhy it is best option to ignore security groups?19:16
zetabwell, i must say that at least in my company security groups is quite important part of the whole stack19:16
mugsie_Well, Octavia stay out of them - I want control19:22
mugsie_For example my app servers are in one group19:22
mugsie_So to allow traffic from the lbs I need to add an allow rule from their security group19:23
mugsie_However I can't see it19:23
mugsie_It's in the Octavia tenant19:23
mugsie_So I can't add that rule19:23
mugsie_And if I got to update the groups on the port, I can't as I can't see the rule19:23
mugsie_So I have to remove the Octavia group to do anything19:24
sbalukoffHmmm... Well, octavia amphorae are owned by the Octavia project by design, so we're unlikely to entertain ideas that alter that. And Octavia is built to hot-plug into tenant networks on the back-end, meaning it'll end up owning the ports. And again, we probably want to continue with this being the case in order to facilitate things like fail-over and eventually auto-scale active-active19:34
sbalukoffconfigurations.19:35
sbalukoffIt's also been our preception that most regular users don't understand security groups well enough to manage them. *shrug* But maybe it makes sense to allow users to specify an optional security group to use if they don't want octavia managing them.19:35
johnsomYeah, I'm trying to understand the use case.19:35
sbalukoffThe question is where does that actually attach to the model? Probably on the load balancer (which includes the VIP) on the front-end.19:36
sbalukoffBut... on the member or pool on the back-end?19:36
sbalukoffI don't think it's possible to specify security group per member, if the members are on the same network.19:36
dougwigsg's are on ports, so i presume he means vips.19:36
dougwigand not the internal machinery ports.19:37
sbalukoffAnd the same time, attaching it to a pool means that could lead to problems if members are specified that are on different networks.19:37
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sbalukoffdougwig: He was talking about app servers, which is members / back-end.19:37
dougwigisn't that a function of the initial nova boot of the member, then?19:38
sbalukoffOr at least, that's what I understand from that.19:38
dougwigwouldn't make sense for lbaas to be touching member SGs, IMO.19:38
sbalukoffdougwig: Unless he's enforcing egress rules or something.19:38
sbalukoffOr wants to.19:38
dougwigthat can still be scripted directly against the member, if it's DSR, or via the vip if proxying.19:39
sbalukoffThat's true.19:39
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sbalukoffSo yeah, back-end doesn't make sense to me.19:39
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sbalukoffSo, I guess I'm not understanding the use case.19:40
mugsie_Heh19:41
mugsie_So I have 3 app servers in sg119:41
sbalukoffIf you're concerned about who can talk to the VIP, why not put it on a network you completely control?19:41
mugsie_I am concerned about the vip19:41
mugsie_I am not*19:41
mugsie_Freaking phone19:41
sbalukoffSo, this is back-end stuff.19:42
* johnsom thinks it's pints not phones....19:42
sbalukoffHaha!19:42
mugsie_johnsom: only half way through the first one :)19:42
mugsie_The app server group does not allow access from outside it19:43
mugsie_I want to allow traffic from the lb VIP port to the app server sec group19:43
sbalukoffUm...19:44
sbalukoffThe LB VIP port shouldn't be originating any connections.19:44
mugsie_It seems to be19:44
sbalukoffAre you specifying the member subnet when you're defining the members?  If so, Octavia should be hot-plugging into those networks/subnets directly.19:45
mugsie_I need to check what was happening in 1.319:46
mugsie_I thought we did19:46
sbalukoff1.3?19:46
mugsie_Kubernetes19:46
sbalukoffAah. Ok.19:46
sbalukoffYou can always log into the amphora itself and poke around to see what it's doing.19:47
sbalukoffNote that in any case I recommend using the Newton release at least, since we got network namespace on amphora support.19:47
mugsie_The problem is that Octavia is different to haproxy, which is different to f5, which is different to $vendor19:47
sbalukoffAnd that might solve the issue you're seeing.19:47
mugsie_Heh19:47
mugsie_That's a ways off19:47
mugsie_I think19:47
mugsie_I don't work on hos anymore19:47
sbalukoffThis one is important enough, I'd consider back-porting it for your environment. *shrug*19:48
mugsie_Yeah, unfortunately we support other people's openstack19:48
sbalukoffRight.19:48
mugsie_So no ability to make them backport19:48
johnsomYou just have to convince suse now right?19:48
johnsomgrin19:48
sbalukoffHeh!19:49
mugsie_No idea what you are talking about19:49
mugsie_Heh19:49
mugsie_We shall see19:49
sbalukoffMeeing in #openstack-meetin-alt19:59
sbalukoffMeeting.19:59
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openstackgerritPaul Glass proposed openstack/octavia: Basic shared pools scenario test  https://review.openstack.org/37899320:23
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dougwigsbalukoff: i'm impressed that you spelled meeting THREE different ways there.20:44
sbalukoffdougwig: Haha! That comes of not actually reading what I type.20:44
sbalukoffOk, lunch time. BBL.20:49
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openstackgerritMichael Johnson proposed openstack/octavia: Use a cached get-pip.py if it is availble  https://review.openstack.org/37900021:11
openstackgerritMichael Johnson proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas: Use a cached get-pip.py if it is availble  https://review.openstack.org/37900121:11
johnsomThat should fix it for our gates.  Infra is also updating their image build process.21:13
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ptoohillThat didnt seem to fix it johnsom :(22:25
ptoohillwait, nvm22:25
johnsomWhich?22:25
johnsomI'm still waiting for the get-pip.py thing22:25
ptoohillyeah, it looked like they all failed22:25
johnsomWell, the octavia one bombed on a bad mirror22:26
ptoohilllooking at zuul22:26
ptoohillthe pypa thing22:26
ptoohilli thought this was a fix for the underlying issue there22:26
johnsomW: Failed to fetch http://mirror.regionone.osic-cloud1.openstack.org/ubuntu/dists/trusty-updates/main/binary-amd64/Packages  Hash Sum mismatch22:26
ptoohillah, i clicked wrong one22:27
ptoohillmybad22:27
johnsomOk, yeah, it didn't work.... hmmm22:29
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johnsomSo, the file wasn't found on the host22:31
johnsomThe infra guys gave me bad info22:31
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openstackgerritMichael Johnson proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas: Use a cached get-pip.py if it is availble  https://review.openstack.org/37900122:37
openstackgerritMichael Johnson proposed openstack/octavia: Use a cached get-pip.py if it is availble  https://review.openstack.org/37900022:37
johnsomAlright, trying another path22:38
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openstackgerritMichael Johnson proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas: Use a cached get-pip.py if it is availble  https://review.openstack.org/37900123:22
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