Tuesday, 2016-10-18

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openstackgerritOpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas-dashboard: Imported Translations from Zanata  https://review.openstack.org/38781806:58
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/octavia: Update .coveragerc after the removal of openstack directory  https://review.openstack.org/38737510:15
openstackgerritMerged openstack/octavia: Increase the verbosity of haproxy.rest_api_driver failures  https://review.openstack.org/38654410:16
openstackgerritMerged openstack/octavia: Enable support for multinode in the gate hook  https://review.openstack.org/37867710:18
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johnsomMorning folks.13:52
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rm_workMorning johnsom14:47
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johnsomIf a core has 10 seconds, can you take a look at: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/386240/15:15
openstackgerritMichael Johnson proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas: Improve session persistence gate issue  https://review.openstack.org/27887415:17
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dougwigjohnsom: done15:53
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rm_workoh, nice16:20
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/neutron-lbaas: Create a consolidated API test  https://review.openstack.org/38624016:31
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greenhornhey all16:58
greenhornso hey16:59
greenhorngot a q - pushed it to the ML in cae othwers had same q but16:59
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greenhorntrying to find authoritative diagram that explains how this thing works16:59
greenhorni'm consulting at cisco and they're using it but don't know how it works haha16:59
greenhornwell they have docs that says how it works but the ref material I've found is all pretty dated17:00
greenhornmaterial i found on openstack that is17:01
johnsomWhich thing are you interested in?  neutron-lbaas or Octavia?17:01
greenhorni'm looking up both - is there a big difference?17:01
greenhornwas loking at neutron-lbaas but I've seen octavia floating around17:01
johnsomWell, there is a difference at the moment, but we are working to merge the two.  Are you trying to setup a hardware load balancer with OpenStack or use the reference driver (Octavia)17:02
johnsomI'm not seeing your question on the mailing list.  What was the title?17:03
greenhorntrying to make sure I understand how the lbaas servcie works si ce I'm trying to document it17:03
greenhornneutron lbaas architecture17:03
greenhornsent to os-ops17:04
greenhornI get nervous when docs point to non-os server that's borked17:04
johnsomYeah, ok.17:05
greenhorn[Neutron][LBaaS] Architecture/Wiring for LBaaS service extension17:05
johnsomCheck out this path: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/octavia/17:05
greenhorni figured it was only one thing17:05
johnsomYeah, I'm not one the ops mailing list (though probably should be).17:05
johnsomThe introduction link talks about Octavia and how it fits in.17:06
greenhorncool nbeans. so is octavia replacing the svc ext in Neutron or being developed as a plkugin for the lbaas service?17:06
johnsomJust a second and I will try to find a good lbaas link for you17:06
greenhorncool - notice it's a driver which is what I was starting to sense17:06
greenhornposs to use without octavia?17:06
greenhornI see amphora/cert/compute/network drivers17:07
johnsomCurrently Octavia is a load balancing driver that plugs into neutron-lbaas.  However, we are working to merge neutron-lbaas into Octavia and make it a new stand alone combined project.  That is work for the Ocata cycle17:07
greenhornso how is it done now without octavia?17:08
greenhorn(or is it) ; )17:08
johnsomThere is a "legacy" namespace driver that uses haproxy on your networking controllers.  You can also use one of the hardware vendor drivers.17:09
greenhornso the legacy version is called legacy since somehting else replaxced it right17:09
johnsomHere is a link to the LBaaS section in the OpenStack docs networking guide: http://docs.openstack.org/newton/networking-guide/config-lbaas.html17:09
greenhornI'm looking at this (non-os link): https://www.openstack.org/assets/Uploads/LBaaS.v2.Liberty.and.Beyond.pdf17:10
johnsomOctavia replaced that driver as the new reference (open source) driver for neutron-lbaas17:10
greenhornis it fully-functional?17:10
johnsomYeah, that is one of the presentations I have given at the OpenStack Summit17:11
johnsomOctavia is fully functional yes.  It became the reference driver in Liberty, but I recommend using a newer version than liberty.17:11
greenhornsure sure17:11
greenhornok so if that's recommended/best practice I'll look at it17:11
johnsomYes, for an opensource driver, Octavia brings you HA options, etc.17:12
greenhornok. just checked and the team is using th elegacy version17:13
johnsomThis is a link to the slides/presentation from Austin: https://www.openstack.org/videos/video/load-balancing-as-a-service-mitaka-and-beyond17:13
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rm_workjohnsom: you need to change the depends-on for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/278874/17:15
rm_workjohnsom: actually, should put it to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/386758/ IMO17:16
johnsomAh, yeah, I was blowing the dust off that old patch.17:16
rm_workyeah but since the depends-on is abandoned, it has issues :P17:16
openstackgerritMichael Johnson proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas: Improve session persistence gate issue  https://review.openstack.org/27887417:17
greenhornHm ok that link will take some time to work thru ; )17:19
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greenhornyo guys gonna in in Barcelona?17:19
rm_worka lot of us are17:20
greenhornok cool, will stop by one of the ops sessions if they have one17:20
rm_workwe don't have a talk this cycle tho17:20
greenhornI'm bringing sa bunch of guys form the WebEx team here17:20
rm_workor any sessions specifically for lbaas, i think17:20
johnsomWe don't have a talk, but we do have a design summit session17:20
rm_workah, yes17:20
rm_workdesign session17:20
rm_workbut not any demos or ops things17:20
rm_worknot sure how much you'll get out of a design session, as it's less exposition and more forward planning17:21
greenhornnp it's cool- looks like you're on the warm bleeding edge though so that's good17:21
greenhornwell, it's where thigns are going which is imp17:21
rm_workand welcome to come :P17:21
greenhornI shall ; )17:21
rm_workjust don't know if it'll be useful for learning about CURRENT arch17:21
openstackgerritAdam Harwell proposed openstack/octavia: Run amphora agent with gunicorn  https://review.openstack.org/38675817:21
johnsomIf there is an ops session you would like some of us to join, let me know17:21
rm_workrebased again17:22
greenhornno it's fine - they brought me on to explain how it works and better yet, I advise Juniper on their lbaas girations with contrail17:22
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rm_workyeah i'll be looking for stuff to do, and hanging out by the job board :P17:22
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greenhornso good to know how it's being done the "OpenStack Way"17:22
greenhornlike there is such a thing right ; )17:22
rm_workheh, i'm currently busy trying to fight it....17:23
greenhornok guyd well, I starred all your links and I'll find ya sometime next week17:23
rm_workoh man, it's next week T_T17:24
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greenhornmike you get my pm?17:26
greenhorni'm irc challenged sometimes17:27
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rm_workthis ML thread kinda makes me want to die18:22
johnsomIsn't the mailing list fun.18:22
rm_workI was happier when I wasn't subscribed18:22
rm_workremind me why I'm doing this instead of watching the new season of Mr. Robot, or sleeping? :P18:23
sbalukoffNo idea, man.18:24
johnsomI have no answer for that.18:24
johnsomThough don't give any Mr. Robot away.  It's my plane entertainment if there aren't any good movies.18:25
rm_workno spoilers from me :)18:28
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bloganmr robot is actually a vampire18:50
bloganand han solo dies18:51
rm_workk with that, heading to bed, someone else fight the good fight while I'm asleep please T_T18:52
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bloganrm_work: night18:52
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dougwigrm_work: go eat some ramen or subway sushi for me.19:21
dougwigrm_work: johnsom: remind me why you guys signed me up for the ML firestorm. i'll remember this.19:23
johnsomDon't look at me man19:23
dougwigjohnsom: you can watch an entire season of mr. robot in one sitting?  it's way too heavy for me to do that.19:23
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johnsomWimp.  It is better than getting stuck watching "white fang" like I did coming back from Germany once.19:27
johnsomOr what ever that children's movie was.  Ugh.19:28
johnsomSadly I don't have expectations of enough space to just sit and do reviews the whole way19:29
johnsomThough that would probably be too heavy for me...19:30
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nmagnezisbalukoff, johnsom, hey guys19:53
johnsomI nmagnezi, how is it going?19:54
nmagnezijohnsom, great :) yourself?19:54
johnsomNot too bad.19:54
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nmagnezijohnsom, sorry for not moving forward with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/331841/ , I'm OOO until for another week19:56
nmagnezijohnsom, i do have cycles for this for when I return19:57
johnsomOk, no problem.  I would like to see it land before Ocata-1 milestone though.19:57
johnsomMost of us will be gone next week.  I will also be out the week after.  Going to the summit.19:57
nmagnezijohnsom, aye. I impinged so, so I thought it would be a good idea to ping you now, since I'm not traveling to the summit19:59
nmagnezijohnsom, as for Ocata-1, noted. will do my best to make it happen19:59
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johnsomCool, I am hoping we can focus O-2 and O-3 on merge patches, etc.  So, getting this in early would be cool.20:00
johnsomThanks for checking in BTW20:04
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nmagnezijohnsom, np :) enjoy the summit!20:09
openstackgerritLubosz Kosnik (diltram) proposed openstack/octavia: Add keystone authentication of token  https://review.openstack.org/26506520:12
johnsomdougwig Does this make you happy? https://review.openstack.org/38624520:18
johnsomIt's not the vt-x that resolved this issue if that was what you were thinking20:19
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johnsomdiltram Found the issue causing the build rate to fail: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/30330421:06
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johnsomFYI, our scenario test gates are broken due to: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/34581822:42
johnsomWorking with infra to get a fix pushed into project-config22:43
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johnsomFix is merged, waiting to see if a recheck passes23:05
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openstackgerritDustin Lundquist proposed openstack/octavia: C10k load testing environment script  https://review.openstack.org/38825323:24
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johnsomOk, so I guess after that fix merges it still take 15-60 minutes for the change to actually be used...  Joy.23:43
sbalukoffFun times.23:50
openstackgerritDustin Lundquist proposed openstack/octavia: C10k load testing environment script  https://review.openstack.org/38825323:51
johnsomWell, it looks like it's getting used now.  I see my recheck is running long enough23:52
openstackgerritDustin Lundquist proposed openstack/octavia: C10k load testing environment script  https://review.openstack.org/38825323:52
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sbalukoffjohnsom: Beyond the above patch from Dustin, I have one more patch planned which will be a "high performance tuning" doc, since beyond what has come in previous patch sets and the above patch, most of the rest of "high performance" depends on the OpenStack environment beyond the control of Octavia itself.23:58
johnsomCool, thanks for that!23:58
dlundquistoctavia didn't end up needing that much tuning :)23:58
johnsomI put a bunch of kernel stuff already in the amp, so hopefully that helped.23:59
sbalukoffyes, it did!23:59
dlundquistMost of that tuning only applied to the default namespace, but Stephen's patch for that already merged23:59
johnsomWell, yeah23:59

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