| harlowja | rm_work well sort of, thinking about how u turn things off (in deterministic) or make them crash tolerant (so they don't poo everywhere) is what i do :-P | 00:00 |
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| harlowja | one solution i ended up at was taskflow | 00:00 |
| xgerman | and we are using it ;-) | 00:01 |
| rm_work | yes, and I have come around to appreciating it | 00:01 |
| harlowja | lol | 00:01 |
| rm_work | it's just funny how often the answer to anything is taskflow ^_^ | 00:01 |
| harlowja | well livness is tooz :-P | 00:02 |
| harlowja | ha | 00:02 |
| harlowja | so i just switched the 't' to a different one | 00:02 |
| harlowja | lol | 00:02 |
| xgerman | I am not so on board with etcd — I don’t like there insistence on 3 servers for redundancy | 00:04 |
| harlowja | thats mainly a side-effect of there usage of RAFT consenus algorithm internally | 00:05 |
| xgerman | yep, and if 1/3 fails it stops accepting stuff | 00:05 |
| xgerman | and goes read only | 00:06 |
| harlowja | likely | 00:06 |
| harlowja | though i'd assume anyone operating a cloud is already used to this 3 rule | 00:06 |
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| harlowja | for mysql, or galera, or ... | 00:06 |
| xgerman | well, you can run all those things ACTIVE-PASSIVE if you choose to do so | 00:07 |
| xgerman | pretty sure galera still writes./reads even if a node fails | 00:08 |
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| harlowja | doesn't need a concept of quorum? | 00:09 |
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| xgerman | http://galeracluster.com/documentation-webpages/recovery.html | 00:09 |
| xgerman | two are enough | 00:09 |
| harlowja | kk, must have a slightly different consistently model | 00:10 |
| harlowja | *consistency | 00:10 |
| xgerman | yep | 00:12 |
| xgerman | also it can run master/slave | 00:12 |
| xgerman | if we would go the toonz (etcd) way we would be a victim of etcd-reduduancy and galera | 00:14 |
| xgerman | unless we cut galera out in that case | 00:14 |
| xgerman | which would decrease our redundancy | 00:14 |
| xgerman | so *shrug* | 00:14 |
| harlowja | so then another question becomes, who is using galera with octavia :-P | 00:16 |
| xgerman | I think we are dead in the water without our DB | 00:20 |
| harlowja | super-dead? | 00:20 |
| harlowja | or mostly dead? | 00:20 |
| harlowja | or super-mostly dead | 00:21 |
| xgerman | our control plane is dead; load balancers wil work | 00:21 |
| harlowja | lol | 00:21 |
| xgerman | but DBs have been around +50 years and mankind has figured out how to keep them availble 99.999 | 00:22 |
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| harlowja | not enough 9s | 00:25 |
| harlowja | lol | 00:25 |
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| rm_work | ugh waiting for the DIB fix to make it through the gate so i can start rechecking stuff | 01:23 |
| rm_work | it was basically through and then one of the jobs randomly broke on a connection error | 01:23 |
| rm_work | so had to recheck >_< | 01:23 |
| rm_work | which means check + gate T_T | 01:24 |
| rm_work | blegh | 01:24 |
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| rm_work | ok here goes again >_< | 01:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/neutron-lbaas master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/462111 | 02:26 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/octavia master: Add some hacking checks borrowed from neutron https://review.openstack.org/462334 | 05:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jude Cross proposed openstack/python-octaviaclient master: [WIP] Add l7rule commands to client https://review.openstack.org/462808 | 05:21 |
| openstackgerrit | cheng proposed openstack/octavia master: Add monitor address and port to pool member https://review.openstack.org/461649 | 05:32 |
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| openstackgerrit | Adam Harwell proposed openstack/octavia master: Implement sorting and pagination for octavia https://review.openstack.org/382147 | 06:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Adam Harwell proposed openstack/octavia master: WIP: Floating IP Network Driver (spans L3s) https://review.openstack.org/435612 | 07:25 |
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| voelzmo | Hello friends of the loadbalancers! Any thoughts on https://bugs.launchpad.net/octavia/+bug/1682408 ? | 08:55 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1682408 in octavia "Delete LBaaSv2 pool membership on port deletion" [Undecided,New] | 08:55 |
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| openstackgerrit | Adam Harwell proposed openstack/octavia master: Noop network driver should provide a more hydrated network https://review.openstack.org/462886 | 10:46 |
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| rm_work | OK smashed a few bugs | 10:50 |
| rm_work | that were impacting stuff I'm trying to do | 10:50 |
| rm_work | I don't necessarily agree with the "not showing deleted objects" thing | 10:51 |
| rm_work | but | 10:51 |
| rm_work | whatever | 10:51 |
| rm_work | i'm actually kinda on the fence and if it's a bug I guess we can fix it | 10:51 |
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| rm_work | xgerman: ok my script should be working now, though I'd kinda like to try to land a few patches today before we run it | 11:12 |
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| rm_work | specifically a couple of bugfixes | 11:13 |
| rm_work | https://review.openstack.org/462910 | 11:13 |
| xgerman | Ok. Sounds good -- | 11:13 |
| rm_work | and https://review.openstack.org/462750 | 11:13 |
| rm_work | though... i guess the second one isn't visible so prolly doesn't matter | 11:13 |
| xgerman | Will look in 2 hours | 11:13 |
| rm_work | but also I would like to change our api from running with apache to running with uwsgi | 11:14 |
| rm_work | so it goes back into the screen | 11:14 |
| rm_work | because ... it not being in the screen is shitty | 11:14 |
| rm_work | and they changed the goal to uwsgi so we need to do it anyway | 11:14 |
| rm_work | maybe you or johnsom or someone could do that this morning? | 11:14 |
| rm_work | I really need to sleep now | 11:15 |
| rm_work | or ... whatever, maybe i can look at it | 11:15 |
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| rm_work | eh, i guess i can just set OCTAVIA_USE_MOD_WSGI=False | 11:30 |
| rm_work | and it'll use the old thing | 11:30 |
| rm_work | which is fine | 11:30 |
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| rm_work | wtf where is our api-ref hosted | 11:47 |
| rm_work | do they not actually build and host it anywhere? | 11:47 |
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| johnsom | rm_work https://developer.openstack.org/api-ref/load-balancer/ | 15:25 |
| johnsom | I haven't linked it on docs.openstack.org yet because we are very WIP at the moment, but by the end of Pike we will have a link from the main API page | 15:32 |
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| xgerman | johnsom: https://www.openstack.org/summit/boston-2017/summit-schedule/events/17859/octavia-load-balancing-for-openstack?BackURL=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.openstack.org%2Fsummit%2Fboston-2017%2Fsummit-schedule%2Fglobal-search%3Ft%3Deichberger%23eventid%3D17859 has still Lubosz + when is the project update? | 16:33 |
| xgerman | I probably should ask about where, too | 16:33 |
| johnsom | xgerman https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/octavia-pike-summit | 16:34 |
| xgerman | ok, added it to my calendar | 16:36 |
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| xgerman | now I will be reminded 15 minutes prior ;- | 16:39 |
| xgerman | ) | 16:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/octavia master: Purge more tenant_id references that I missed https://review.openstack.org/462750 | 16:54 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron-lbaas master: Remove get_namespace from API extensions https://review.openstack.org/460831 | 17:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/neutron-lbaas master: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/462111 | 17:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michael Johnson proposed openstack/octavia master: Don't show deleted objects in v2 API https://review.openstack.org/462910 | 17:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Elancheran S proposed openstack/python-octaviaclient master: Add Listener commands to client https://review.openstack.org/461231 | 18:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Elancheran S proposed openstack/python-octaviaclient master: Add loadbalancer commands to client https://review.openstack.org/454516 | 18:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Elancheran S proposed openstack/python-octaviaclient master: Add pool commands to client https://review.openstack.org/461992 | 18:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Elancheran S proposed openstack/python-octaviaclient master: This patch implements member create, list, show, set, and delete within the openstack client. https://review.openstack.org/463035 | 18:36 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/octavia master: Noop network driver should provide a more hydrated network https://review.openstack.org/462886 | 18:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/octavia master: Don't show deleted objects in v2 API https://review.openstack.org/462910 | 20:06 |
| openstackgerrit | Elancheran S proposed openstack/python-octaviaclient master: This patch implements member create, list, show, set, and delete within the openstack client. https://review.openstack.org/463035 | 20:20 |
| openstackgerrit | Elancheran S proposed openstack/python-octaviaclient master: This patch implements member create, list, show, set, and delete within the openstack client. https://review.openstack.org/463035 | 20:21 |
| openstackgerrit | Elancheran S proposed openstack/python-octaviaclient master: Add member commands to client https://review.openstack.org/463035 | 20:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Elancheran S proposed openstack/python-octaviaclient master: Add member commands to client https://review.openstack.org/463035 | 20:59 |
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| rm_work | johnsom: replied | 21:03 |
| johnsom | Cool! | 21:04 |
| johnsom | Duh, yep. Ok, a rebase and we can merge single call and sorting IMO | 21:05 |
| johnsom | Do you want me to do the rebase? | 21:05 |
| rm_work | I'll do it | 21:05 |
| rm_work | ahh lolol I missed a constant on the deleted patch | 21:05 |
| rm_work | i did it right on the other side T_T | 21:05 |
| rm_work | was a bit tired by then, heh | 21:06 |
| rm_work | you got it though, cool | 21:06 |
| johnsom | Yep | 21:06 |
| johnsom | I'm just finishing the 101 slides | 21:06 |
| xgerman | Nice! | 21:07 |
| rm_work | just running tests after rebase and i'll push up | 21:08 |
| rm_work | so much rebasing recently | 21:08 |
| xgerman | No kidding | 21:08 |
| openstackgerrit | Adam Harwell proposed openstack/octavia master: Add support for single-create for APIv2 https://review.openstack.org/459032 | 21:10 |
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| johnsom | Ok, I thnk the 101 slides are in good shape. Make edits if you need | 21:22 |
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| rm_work | running tests on the paging/sorting rebase | 21:26 |
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| rm_work | ugh i have no idea how this is going to work next week | 21:26 |
| rm_work | also I am seriously actually getting sick and I'm worried about my voice :/ | 21:26 |
| rm_work | i hope this passes quickly | 21:27 |
| johnsom | Ugh, well, I guess German can try phoning a friend... Ha | 21:27 |
| johnsom | I can be the ginormous talking head | 21:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Adam Harwell proposed openstack/octavia master: Implement sorting and pagination for octavia https://review.openstack.org/382147 | 21:28 |
| rm_work | OK | 21:28 |
| rm_work | feel free to +2/+A and all that again soon, once this passes scenarios again | 21:28 |
| johnsom | I have +2'd them | 21:29 |
| xgerman | Ouch. | 21:29 |
| johnsom | Argh... Now multinode on newton is broken: /opt/stack/new/octavia/devstack/plugin.sh:source:330 : die 'The neutron q-svc service must be enabled to use octavia' | 21:33 |
| johnsom | Playing wack-a-mole with third party breakage is getting to be a full time job | 21:33 |
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| rm_work | i reproposed the DIB co-gate | 21:34 |
| johnsom | Yeah, they can't deny they broke us this time. | 21:34 |
| johnsom | Hopefully they will take it | 21:34 |
| openstackgerrit | Adam Harwell proposed openstack/octavia master: WIP: Floating IP Network Driver (spans L3s) https://review.openstack.org/435612 | 21:35 |
| johnsom | xgerman Did you start slide for the normal LBaaS talk? | 21:45 |
| xgerman | nope | 21:45 |
| xgerman | but I have a flight on Sunday (learned from omrig) | 21:45 |
| johnsom | Ok, I will try to put something together, at least a start | 21:45 |
| xgerman | also if I am the only speaker we can use the RAX template | 21:46 |
| johnsom | I think both 101 and project update are reasonable. Project update might be a little light, but I'm not sure with the format of those sessions | 21:46 |
| xgerman | yeah | 21:46 |
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| xgerman | I will practice the night before | 21:46 |
| xgerman | also I usually write my sldies at the conference so nothing new ;-) | 21:47 |
| johnsom | Yeah, I know I am the one that can't stand doing that..... | 21:47 |
| xgerman | :-) | 21:48 |
| rm_work | lol | 21:48 |
| rm_work | which ones do you actually want me to help with xgerman | 21:48 |
| rm_work | I figure I can do about half the speaking at all of them, assuming my voice is OK | 21:48 |
| xgerman | let’s decide that when/if you have your voice ;-) | 21:48 |
| rm_work | heh yeah | 21:48 |
| rm_work | hopefully will be OK with a mic | 21:48 |
| * xgerman parys | 21:49 | |
| rm_work | it seems like every summit i get sick and have to actually use a mic instead of getting to just broadcast with my auditorium voice | 21:49 |
| xgerman | bummer - I think the talks are received better if more than one person talks | 21:49 |
| johnsom | Yeah, me too | 21:50 |
| rm_work | yeah IMO I should be able to talk at least a bit | 21:50 |
| rm_work | just won't be able to OWN it like I was hoping | 21:50 |
| xgerman | ok, just send me the slides and I will work on them in the plane/Saturday/hotel | 21:50 |
| rm_work | xgerman: I'll plan to meet up with you Monday morning | 21:51 |
| rm_work | and do last minute prep for the demo | 21:51 |
| xgerman | k | 21:51 |
| rm_work | maybe a runthrough | 21:51 |
| rm_work | err, lab | 21:51 |
| rm_work | will you be on tomorrow? | 21:51 |
| rm_work | I think I want to do the script tomorrow | 21:51 |
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| rm_work | I'll lock it to a specific version of devstack/octavia | 21:51 |
| xgerman | ok, let me know when you need me and I can make time. Otherwise I usually have my cell with irc with me | 21:52 |
| rm_work | tempted to tell it to use stable nova/neutron lol | 21:52 |
| rm_work | ah ok | 21:52 |
| xgerman | :-) | 21:52 |
| johnsom | Yeah, I can probably be summoned and help out some over the weekend if you need a hand. | 21:52 |
| rm_work | kk | 21:53 |
| rm_work | let me test a login against one of those IPs and make sure i can get in at least | 21:53 |
| rm_work | have you tried xgerman? | 21:53 |
| xgerman | the lab slides are 99% done | 21:53 |
| xgerman | yes, but last week | 21:53 |
| xgerman | oh, I could log in the 1st student machine | 21:53 |
| johnsom | Just sent you guys the link to the Main LBaaS talk slides I am starting. | 21:54 |
| xgerman | ok, so all the links are still current? | 21:54 |
| xgerman | if so will work over the weekend on them | 21:55 |
| johnsom | Yes, they should all pull down the current version. I will be working on that last one for a while here, so... | 21:56 |
| johnsom | At least I think the link points to the latest version. Check the 101 and see if it is fully filled out | 21:57 |
| openstackgerrit | Elancheran S proposed openstack/python-octaviaclient master: Add member commands to client https://review.openstack.org/463035 | 21:57 |
| rm_work | pssh -h ~/workspace/ovh_ips -l ubuntu -x "-oStrictHostKeyChecking=no -i ~/.ssh/ovh_lab_rsa" whoami | 22:00 |
| rm_work | using that to do stuff | 22:00 |
| rm_work | can log in to all 100 hosts | 22:00 |
| rm_work | :) | 22:00 |
| johnsom | Nice | 22:01 |
| rm_work | i'm splitting off one IP to do testing on though | 22:01 |
| rm_work | I am guessing there's no way to reset these :/ | 22:01 |
| rm_work | so if something breaks... | 22:01 |
| rm_work | ugh | 22:01 |
| rm_work | I guess we'd be stuck doing it monday morning again and crossing fingers | 22:01 |
| rm_work | actually what I need from one of you maybe is to log in to my test box when i'm finished setting it up, and really give it a workout | 22:02 |
| rm_work | to make sure everything *works* | 22:02 |
| rm_work | johnsom: i'm sure you have test scripts sitting around | 22:02 |
| johnsom | Yep, I do. Just let me know when... | 22:03 |
| rm_work | k | 22:04 |
| rm_work | probably it'll be tomorrow | 22:04 |
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| rm_work | xgerman: need that sweet +A for single-create | 22:36 |
| rm_work | and it'll release the kraken for both that and pagination | 22:36 |
| xgerman | it works now? | 22:37 |
| rm_work | err | 22:37 |
| rm_work | well | 22:37 |
| rm_work | need you to re-test then | 22:37 |
| rm_work | because I was never able to reproduce any of your issues | 22:37 |
| rm_work | or michael's | 22:37 |
| rm_work | and he's +2'd now | 22:37 |
| rm_work | I think you guys had some weird devstack issues... | 22:37 |
| xgerman | k | 22:38 |
| rm_work | xgerman: definitely re-test | 22:38 |
| rm_work | and let me know if anything weird happens | 22:38 |
| rm_work | i need to go afk for about 30m so you have some time :) | 22:38 |
| xgerman | won’t happen that soon anyway - maybe when kids are in bed and I understand how to set up devstack (are those ubuntu issues fixed?) | 22:39 |
| rm_work | umm | 22:39 |
| rm_work | not sure | 22:39 |
| rm_work | but yeah k np | 22:39 |
| johnsom | Yeah, my issues were systemd related | 22:53 |
| johnsom | I got a good test today | 22:53 |
| rm_work | i switched my scripts to USE_SCREEN and turned off our MOD_UWSGI | 22:58 |
| rm_work | good times | 22:58 |
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| xgerman | ok, trying with a freshly cloned devstack - wish me luck | 23:34 |
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